Porsche 997 911 GT2

[Kitdy]

Looks like the new GT2 will show up at Frankfurt later this year. I am excited to see what this car will do - as mentioned in the GT2 spyshots thread, looks goofy with the the LED tusks; the Rinspeed Le 600 did a much better job on the front fascia, as did the GT3 methinks. Anyways.

From Autoblog:

Got your calendar out? The Porsche 997 GT2 will attend its first meet-and-greet with the general public at the Frankfurt Auto Show later this year.

The newest howler rumbles with 525 bhp. Turn up the boost and play with the black box, and you can have 530 bhp at 2000 rpm. The engine gets a few tweaks like a more robust oil cooler and a stiffer crank. More serious modifications include wearing the GT3 suspension, ceramic brakes, shorter gears, a stripped out cabin, and being RWD only. It's 220 pounds less than the Turbo, and it's the first production Porsche to run past 200 mph. Although slower than the Turbo from 0-60, the shorter gearing and that massive low-end horsepower mean in-gear acceleration is expected to be measured in Warp Factors. The gargantuan rear wing is adjustable for track or road duty. The power-to-weight ratio will be 354 bhp per ton, 8 less than the Ferrari 599 -- but the Porsche weighs nearly 500 pounds less than the Ferrari . . . and the Ferrari has air conditioning.

It shows up at dealers in 2008. Start saving now, 'cause it's gonna cost a gang o' money. Yes, that's a technical term.

Especially of note I think is: The newest howler rumbles with 525 bhp. Turn up the boost and play with the black box, and you can have 530 bhp at 2000 rpm. That seems almost impossible - if it is true - then I deem this car the Spawn of Satan.

All Photos are from Car Magazine's website.

P.S. Anyone know where I can find Porsche engine masses? I googled it and had no luck. Appreciate any help I can get. Also, sorry if this is a repost, but I don't think it is.

[Ferrer]

530bhp at 2000rpm? :eek:

Who wants diesels now...? :D

[dydzi]

that's actually one porsche i'm really looking forward to see

good, will be nice to be at world debut :)

[drakkie]

I predict trenches in the tarmac :D

[P4g4nite]

The power-to-weight ratio will be 354 bhp per ton, 8 less than the Ferrari 599 -- but the Porsche weighs nearly 500 pounds less than the Ferrari . . . and the Ferrari has air conditioning.
The fezza may have A/C and think itself fancy but the porka has TWO hairdryers.
Check mate.

Especially of note I think is: The newest howler rumbles with 525 bhp. Turn up the boost and play with the black box, and you can have 530 bhp at 2000 rpm. That seems almost impossible - if it is true - then I deem this car the Spawn of Satan.
530bhp@2000rpm?
http://www.forumspile.com/NM-Jiggawatts2.jpg

Variable vane turbos are part technology and part magic.

[digitalcraft]

Haha, that picture is awesome! I imagine a lot of car technicians for racing teams look like that.

[Kitdy]

530bhp at 2000rpm? :eek:

Who wants diesels now...? :D

Sounds almost unbelievable - how could it hold that power up to say 8000 rpm? This car should be every American muscle car fan's dream... Yeah right.


Variable vane turbos are part technology and part magic.

I agree - and I also agree it needs more Gigawatts!

[Ferrer]

Sounds almost unbelievable - how could it hold that power up to say 8000 rpm? This car should be every American muscle car fan's dream... Yeah right.
I doubt it can rev to 8000rpm.

[Kitdy]

I doubt it can rev to 8000rpm.

You are entirely correct - the current 911 turbo revs up to 6,000 revs (seems low - am I wrong?) so I'd imagine that this one is somewehre similar. That is still a good 4,000 rpm powerband.

[Ferrer]

(seems low - am I wrong?)
Well it's not Ferrari high, but it's not extremely low either. For comparison the Mini's redline is at 6750rpm.

[Kitdy]

Well it's not Ferrari high, but it's not extremely low either. For comparison the Mini's redline is at 6750rpm.

I guess I jsut always assumed Porsches revved a lot higher. I never looked into it until now really.

[Knuto]

The newest howler rumbles with 525 bhp. Turn up the boost and play with the black box, and you can have 530 bhp at 2000 rpm.

Hehe. That equals 1860 Nm. I think they mean 530 Nm at 2000 rpm.
EDIT: If not, thats some powerful boost-button!

[zeppelin]

You are entirely correct - the current 911 turbo revs up to 6,000 revs (seems low - am I wrong?) so I'd imagine that this one is somewehre similar. That is still a good 4,000 rpm powerband.

Pfft, my car redlines at 6500 rpm. Take that 911 Turbo.

[NSXType-R]

My father's Civic hatch revs to 8,000. Eat your heart out. :p

VTEC pwns all. ;)

And the 1.8T too. :D

Impressive stuff, 911 GT2.

What black box are they specifically talking about? :confused:

Also, the F430 has a "secret" launch system.

How come America doesn't have it? :confused:

[2ndclasscitizen]

What black box are they specifically talking about? :confused: It's probably a reference to the overboost function from the Chronosport pack like in the Turbo.


Also, the F430 has a "secret" launch system.

How come America doesn't have it? :confused:

I thought it was a button on the console that says LC.

[NSXType-R]

I don't think it was an option on American bound F430's. There was a really old Motortrend issue where there was a cheat "code" to engage it.

It was in an issue where they were comparing a Ford GT vs. a F430.

[cmcpokey]

Well it's not Ferrari high, but it's not extremely low either. For comparison the Mini's redline is at 6750rpm.

but limiter at 7200.. hit it multiple times on the way home from work today.

[fisetdavid26]

Especially of note I think is: The newest howler rumbles with 525 bhp. Turn up the boost and play with the black box, and you can have 530 bhp at 2000 rpm. That seems almost impossible - if it is true - then I deem this car the Spawn of Satan.
Haha, I agree. It's phenomenal. I wonder what are the torque figures though.

[092326001]

I heard the europinean launch control doesn't help the car car go any faster, instead its suppose to prevent your tires from getting destoryed.

[Kitdy]

Haha, I agree. It's phenomenal. I wonder what are the torque figures though.

I suspect they must be high if the hp is so high at such a low rpm. I think it is a mistake / exaggeration though.

[P4g4nite]

You are entirely correct - the current 911 turbo revs up to 6,000 revs (seems low - am I wrong?)
The Turbo makes it's 470bhp at 6000rpm. 8000 is higher than it will go but the GT3 gets to 8400rpm (and EVO mag dyno'd it at 429bhp also.)

Hehe. That equals 1860 Nm. I think they mean 530 Nm at 2000 rpm.
No, they mean 530ft/lbs.

Beast status restored.

My father's Civic hatch revs to 8,000. Eat your heart out.
GT3, 8400, 429. :)

[2ndclasscitizen]

I heard the europinean launch control doesn't help the car car go any faster, instead its suppose to prevent your tires from getting destoryed.

Nope it makes it go faster.

[man 430gt]

I thought it was a button on the console that says LC.
Shh It's a secret!:rolleyes:
My view on the car is overall bad.. I love the old 996 GT2 this one is just Fugly IMO.. I hate that missing part of the front. They should remove whatever crap they've place on teh bonnet of teh car and replace it with that black lining in teh old car. Go back and make notes on the old spoiler.. The new one is terrible!

[man 430gt]

I heard the europinean launch control doesn't help the car car go any faster, instead its suppose to prevent your tires from getting destoryed.
And it WILL destroy tires.. After 5 times of LC use you have to get the clutch changed if I'm not mistaken..

[Ferrer]

but limiter at 7200.. hit it multiple times on the way home from work today.
Really? I didn't know that. Might as well try it. :D

[Birdman002]

im not exactly thee smartest cookie in the cookie jar so could some1 tell me wat a Gigawatt is

thank you

[clutch-monkey]

good god, i really do hate those two little bars of LED's. anyone care to photoshop them off?

[Vaigra]

Shh It's a secret!:rolleyes:
My view on the car is overall bad.. I love the old 996 GT2 this one is just Fugly IMO.. I hate that missing part of the front. They should remove whatever crap they've place on teh bonnet of teh car and replace it with that black lining in teh old car. Go back and make notes on the old spoiler.. The new one is terrible!
The black strips are probably still there but are covered up for now. It is a possibility as the car hasn't been unveiled yet.

[Turbo.Jenkens]

im not exactly thee smartest cookie in the cookie jar so could some1 tell me wat a Gigawatt is

thank you

Its a measurement of power

1 watt = 1 joule/second

1 Gigawatt = 1,000,000,000 watts

Simply "turning them up" can have catastrophic effects if one lacks a wrather large Flux capacitor.

[Turbo.Jenkens]

Looks like a tuner car to me. I expect better from Zuffenhausen.

[ruim20]

i don't think they were refering to a boost button on the post, i'm much more inlcined to a post factory tunning of the engine to reach thoose lvls.

[Kitdy]

i don't think they were refering to a boost button on the post, i'm much more inlcined to a post factory tunning of the engine to reach thoose lvls.

No doubt. Still 530 lbf-ft torque with a little few twitches to the chip etc. at 2,000 rpm is pretty damn good.

[Cotterik]

jackpot! they didnt ruin it!

[Ferrer]

No doubt. Still 530 lbf-ft torque with a little few twitches to the chip etc. at 2,000 rpm is pretty damn good.
That's 717Nm. That's still amazing. To put that into perspective those are the sort of figures the 5.4-litre AMG superchaged V8 does.

[P4g4nite]

That's 717Nm. That's still amazing. To put that into perspective those are the sort of figures the 5.4-litre AMG superchaged V8 does.

Or the 8.3L Viper V10.

[Mäusekino]

I don't think it was an option on American bound F430's. There was a really old Motortrend issue where there was a cheat "code" to engage it.

It was in an issue where they were comparing a Ford GT vs. a F430.

the ferrari in production since '04 and the ford since '05, so the issue can't be older than 2 years, if that's "really old" for you than i would like to know what in your view is 1977? Middleage? ;)


You are entirely correct - the current 911 turbo revs up to 6,000 revs (seems low - am I wrong?) so I'd imagine that this one is somewehre similar. That is still a good 4,000 rpm powerband.

so, i'm gonna clear things now for everybody who is in the technical-fog:confused: :
the 911 GT2 has a twin-turbo engine and like a every turbo- & supercharged engine it aren't able to rev as high as a not-charged-engine (and don't need cause of the fact THAT they are charged), how high depends mostly on displacement, number of cylinders and size of the turbo(s), most petrols rev about 5500-7000rpm and diesels are about 4000-5000rpm. :eek:


Shh It's a secret!:rolleyes:
My view on the car is overall bad.. I love the old 996 GT2 this one is just Fugly IMO.. I hate that missing part of the front. They should remove whatever crap they've place on teh bonnet of teh car and replace it with that black lining in teh old car. Go back and make notes on the old spoiler.. The new one is terrible!

it's a late prototype, that cars have always some attachments which are away when production starts, i don't think there will be a "missing part" -but you're right, it looks like seamed off- and the lining will very surely be black like before:)

[P4g4nite]

so, i'm gonna clear things now for everybody who is in the technical-fog :
the 911 GT2 has a twin-turbo engine and like a every turbo- & supercharged engine it aren't able to rev as high as a not-charged-engine (and don't need cause of the fact THAT they are charged), how high depends mostly on displacement, number of cylinders and size of the turbo(s), most petrols rev about 5500-7000rpm and diesels are about 4000-5000rpm.
Everyone is still in the technical fog, where did you get this info?

[Mäusekino]

Everyone is still in the technical fog, where did you get this info?

well, you can read and see that in the car magazines or in technical books.

the turbocharger causes much heat, the nozzle can reach temperatures of 1400°C. the charger would just burst which in succession would kill the engine. also the cooling system is bigger than in "normal" engines and it would be to big and powercosting if engine and charger would rev even higher - if they would could.

and superchargers are powered by the engine. it costs parts of the power it delivers. more revs wouldn't mean much more power. take the merc slr as an example, it has a supercharged 5.5-litre V8 with 626hp, the supercharger itself needs about 15% (somebody correct me if the figure is wrong) of that 626hp in the max to power up the engines maximal power. that's one reason why more and more cars have turbo- instead of superchargers.

and, as i wrote before, f.e. a charged 2litre-engine doesn't need to rev that high -even if it could- like the civic type R engine to raise about 200hp or more, cause of the simple fact THAT IT IS CHARGED.

[P4g4nite]

the turbocharger causes much heat, the nozzle can reach temperatures of 1400°C. the charger would just burst which in succession would kill the engine. What? whaat?
This isn't even a sentence let alone a concise, lucid point. The issue of too much heat is simply dealt with by using a properly sized turbo, besides turbos are water or oil cooled and all modern vehicles feature some kind of heat exchanger in the induction process.

also the cooling system is bigger than in "normal" engines and it would be to big and powercosting if engine and charger would rev even higher - if they would could.It would be too big only in the most extreme applications, drag racing comes to mind. As for 'powercosting'...a turbo helps you make power, Lots of it.

and superchargers are powered by the engine. it costs parts of the power it delivers. more revs wouldn't mean much more power.
Surprise surprise, more revs mean more air is delivered by the SC which means you can get more power. Ask Keonigsegg.


and, as i wrote before, f.e. a charged 2litre-engine doesn't need to rev that high -even if it could- like the civic type R engine to raise about 200hp or more, cause of the simple fact THAT IT IS CHARGED.
You gave me zero reason why a FI engine cannot (as opposed to 'usually do not') rev as high a a regular engine.
Consider this: some turbo applications are in a very low boost with relatively small turbo(s) like in the BMW 335i. Some are in high boost with bigger turbos like the a Mitsubishi Evo.
Both are comfortable at 7000rpm. The Exige 240R still meets the same revs as the non-SC version.
If you want to go nuts, Nissan built a motor between 1989 and 1999 for their GTR which would rev to 8000 straight from the factory and if you liked it could be built to spin to 9,10,11000 rpm or more.

[Mäusekino]

it's just what i heard or different said, thought is correct. i never gave a guarantee for it, so i retrac my statement. thanks for correction. and i have to admit, what i wrote before now sounds kinda of written-in-drunk-condition to me, mostly cause it was so. :D ;)

[ultralight]

I have a 996 GT2 with 3000 original miles. The upgraded ciramic brake package, electronic spoiler, etc. It is loaded with most upgrades available. The car was purchased for $95K when new, and has only been driven a few times.

[Cyco]

$17, depending on local currency

[clutch-monkey]

i'll give you $20. i'm assuming it's LHD, and therefore useless

[Ferrer]

GT2 and electronic spoiler...? :rolleyes:

[Kitdy]

Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/24/spy-video-porsche-gt2-beats-the-ring-into-submission/) has a video of the 911 GT2 taking a few turns at the Nürburgring. The annoucner claims it has a 530 hp engine but who knows if that is confirmed or just speculation; also it is clearly gonna be ligher than the current 911 turbo so laptimes should be on the decline.

[nikola scg]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=19UDZKISKoQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BXghDK737r0

[Kitdy]

Well, the Porsche GT2 brochure leaked so all the stats are now official. Here it is form Autoblog.com (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/12/porsche-gt2-brochure-with-official-specs-pics-leaked/):


We've endlessly covered the impending arrival of Porsche's newest 911 variant, the GT2. Powered by the same force-fed 3.6-liter flat six as the Turbo, yet only sending power to the rear wheels, it's destined to be one of the greatest tarmac toys of this decade. And the cat is unofficially out of the bag.

Some enterprising web-geek was able to download a scan of the GT2 brochure and aside from all the glossy photos; the real dirt is on the second-to-last page – specs.

We'll keep it brief so you can ogle it yourself, but the GT2 is producing 530 HP at 6,500 RPM, and 505 lb.-ft. of torque between 2,200 – 4.500 RPM. A six-speed manual transmission sends power to the wheels, and allows the GT2 to run to 60 in 3.6 seconds, to 100 in 7.4 seconds and on to a top speed of 204 MPH. The curb weight is 3,175 pounds. "Respect required," indeed.

Pretty damn intense if you ask me. Porsche also usually are a little conservative with their acceleration figures so we'll have to see how fast it actually is when someone gets their hands on it. Shouldn't it be faster than the Turbo's 3.3 second dash to 60 mph? It has more power and less weight. We'll see in the future!

[The_Canuck]

Well, the Porsche GT2 brochure leaked so all the stats are now official. Here it is form Autoblog.com (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/12/porsche-gt2-brochure-with-official-specs-pics-leaked/):



Pretty damn intense if you ask me. Porsche also usually are a little conservative with their acceleration figures so we'll have to see how fast it actually is when someone gets their hands on it. Shouldn't it be faster than the Turbo's 3.3 second dash to 60 mph? It has more power and less weight. We'll see in the future!

Turbo's officially listed at 3.6 IIRC....

[P4g4nite]

Shouldn't it be faster than the Turbo's 3.3 second dash to 60 mph? It has more power and less weight. We'll see in the future! Not necessarily, It doesn't have the off-the-line traction that the AWD turbo has.

[Lets Gekiga In]

I now have a new dream car. Damn this thing is awesome.

Porsche always reminds me how much I will always love them and their 911.

[jediali]

530bhp@2000rpm?
http://www.forumspile.com/NM-Jiggawatts2.jpg

so it will have 1500hp at 6000rpm? (if MEP is sustained)


Haha, that picture is awesome! I imagine a lot of car technicians for racing teams look like that.

what you on about? Thats hightower99

[NSXType-R]

Return of the widowmaker. :D

RWD only? That's freaking scary. :eek:

Performance must be insane also.

And, Porsche usually underestimates their numbers.

I can see a Blue Devil Vs. GT2 battle already. :D

[Kitdy]

Turbo's officially listed at 3.6 IIRC....

The Turbo is listed by Porsche at 3.7 seconds, the actual test (done by either Car and Driver or Road and Track) found that the Turbo manual did it in 3.4 and the automatic in 3.3. Wahwahweewah!


so it will have 1500hp at 6000rpm? (if MEP is sustained)

I'm confused. What do you mean by that?


Return of the widowmaker. :D

RWD only? That's freaking scary. :eek:

Performance must be insane also.

And, Porsche usually underestimates their numbers.

I can see a Blue Devil Vs. GT2 battle already. :D

Truth Porsche does underestimate their numbers, they underrated the Turbo as mentioned above by .4 seconds, so how fast is the GT2 actually? 3.2 seconds? Hopefully.

Also this vs. the Blue Devil/SS/whatever Corvette will be quite the good fight I must say. They need to duke it out at some racetracks to see who is best.

[Lets Gekiga In]

Also this vs. the Blue Devil/SS/whatever Corvette will be quite the good fight I must say. They need to duke it out at some racetracks to see who is best.
I agree, I think it would make for a very great car comparison. But for some reason, I have a feeling inside that tells me the Corvette will come out on top.

[jediali]

I'm confused. What do you mean by that?


well for:

Power= bmep ×capacity ×engine speed

..triple engine speed = triple power for constant bmep

[Kitdy]

well for:

Power= bmep ×capacity ×engine speed

..triple engine speed = triple power for constant bmep

I am too much of a noob to know what bmep is... Wikipedia tells me it is brake mean effective pressure.

I have no idea what the hell that means.

From Wikipedia:

This is a coefficient of theoretical brake horsepower and cylinder pressures during combustion.

I'm still lost. You blew me away with your engine knowledge jediali.

[ripper46]

official pics at http://www.autoweek.nl/ ;)

[dydzi]

carmag says:

[Kitdy]

Fresh form Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/08/faster-than-getting-a-coffee-at-starbucks-gt2-laps-the-ring-in/), the 911 GT2 can apparently lap the ring in 7:32; that's pretty dang fast I gotta say.

[The_Canuck]

Fresh form Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/08/faster-than-getting-a-coffee-at-starbucks-gt2-laps-the-ring-in/), the 911 GT2 can apparently lap the ring in 7:32; that's pretty dang fast I gotta say.

Yeah it is. Except thats a crappy comparison...

[Jack_Bauer]

New 997 GT2 Microsite is now up at Porsche.com. Features all the usual details and features etc, plus a nice little trailer movie...

Respect required. (http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911gt2/uk.aspx?specialguest=1)

[RacingManiac]

wow....an easy to use launch control....who would've thought of that....instead of pulling paddles, press buttons and tap the heel of your racing boot 3 time....just clutch, rev and go.....

997 GT2 make Carrera GT redundant....

[NSXType-R]

wow....an easy to use launch control....who would've thought of that....instead of pulling paddles, press buttons and tap the heel of your racing boot 3 time....just clutch, rev and go.....

997 GT2 make Carrera GT redundant....

Only thing is, the Carrera GT is out of production, so it doesn't really matter. :D

I still think the Carrera GT looks better than the GT2, and it has more presence. The GT2 looks great, but compared to the Carrera GT it looks less exciting somehow. Maybe it's because it's open top.

[Coventrysucks]

997 GT2 make Carrera GT redundant....

Unless you want a fast Porsche that doesn't look like a 911 S that has crashed through an Evo-stick factory, then Halfords.

[RacingManiac]

engineering wise it does though...a full carbon monocoque, V10 powered, inboard suspension equipped, purpose built uber exotic that has been exceeded by an upgraded, mass production 911.....

marketing wise it makes no difference now, but makes you wonder if CGT could've been so much more.....still my favorite Porsche road car in recent years, but Porsche is capable of bigger things....

[Ferrer]

engineering wise it does though...a full carbon monocoque, V10 powered, inboard suspension equipped, purpose built uber exotic that has been exceeded by an upgraded, mass production 911.....

marketing wise it makes no difference now, but makes you wonder if CGT could've been so much more.....still my favorite Porsche road car in recent years, but Porsche is capable of bigger things....
The thing is, in the real world a 911 Turbo is probably faster than both.

[Coventrysucks]

engineering wise it does though...a full carbon monocoque, V10 powered, inboard suspension equipped, purpose built uber exotic that has been exceeded by an upgraded, mass production 911.....

Shock as modern cars faster than those of 5 years ago.

[orne]

No doubt it's a great car but still I'd rather have a GT3, cheaper, sounds better and isn't that much slower.

[NSXType-R]

No doubt it's a great car but still I'd rather have a GT3, cheaper, sounds better and isn't that much slower.

Yes, in white it looks very attractive.

I love Porsche for coming out with so many flavors. You get to choose your favorite. :D

[NSXType-R]

wow....an easy to use launch control....who would've thought of that....instead of pulling paddles, press buttons and tap the heel of your racing boot 3 time....just clutch, rev and go.....

997 GT2 make Carrera GT redundant....

Actually, Porsche underestimates their cars, so maybe the Carrera GT just edges out or equals the GT2 in performance.

[RacingManiac]

Shock as modern cars faster than those of 5 years ago.

for what Carrera GT is supposed to represent, yeah it is shocking....

[Coventrysucks]

Actually, Porsche underestimates their cars, so maybe the Carrera GT just edges out or equals the GT2 in performance.

Why would the Carrera GT be underestimated but not the GT2, if that were the case?


for what Carrera GT is supposed to represent, yeah it is shocking....

The Ferrari F430 Scuderia is as fast as an Enzo round Fiorano.

Shocking, or just progress?

The GT2 & F430 Scuderia have 4 years worth of additional development in most of the areas of "go faster" - the electronics most notably, both engine and chassis management. Correspondingly you would expect them to have 4 years worth of faster.

You would especially expect a car with all the weight over the rear wheels, 501lb ft @ 2200-4400rpm and electronic traction and launch control to be able to accelerate faster to a low (for the type of car) speed than a relatively gutless supercar with a notoriously difficult clutch.

The 0-62mph time is only one measurement, too:

Despite "sharing" the 0-62 time with the 997 Turbo, the Carrera GT was 1.1s quicker to 100, 3.9 seconds quicker to 150 and 6.6 seconds quicker to 180 as well as being 3.85 seconds faster round the 1.8 mile Bedford West circuit, and delivering a subjectively better experience during fast road driving when the two were tested side by side by Evo magazine.

As yet, there is no evidence to suggest that there will not be a similar relationship to the GT2.

[RacingManiac]

not the accel figure that I find surprising, road cars anyhow are primarily traction challenged that it's hard to find major gain in a striaghtline after some point. If one of the previous post's Nurburgring time are to be trusted, this GT2 is less than 5 sec slower around a 22km track against a car that "should" be fundementally better car. All things considered, a stock, unit-steel body 911 that weighs only ~100lb more than a all carbon fibre Carrera GT, is quite a thing in itself...

[Wouter Melissen]

Here is a massive pdf file describing the car in absolute detail:

http://www.soloporsche.com/PublicDownload/TechDocs/997_GT2_ProductInfo.pdf

[jediali]

Here is a massive pdf file describing the car in absolute detail:

http://www.soloporsche.com/PublicDownload/TechDocs/997_GT2_ProductInfo.pdf


thanks very much. great technical stuff. I recomend the descriptions of launch control and expansion intake. One slight typo though:

[kigango123]

You are entirely correct - the current 911 turbo revs up to 6,000 revs (seems low - am I wrong?) so I'd imagine that this one is somewehre similar. That is still a good 4,000 rpm powerband.

id imagined porshes rev abit higher, but thats what they get for sticking with inline six all this time.

[The_Canuck]

What do you mean inline 6?

[kigango123]

What do you mean inline 6?

i mean inline six is an ancient engine, even in the porshe!

[Jack_Bauer]

i mean inline six is an ancient engine, even in the porshe!

Porsches don't have inline engines, they have horizontally opposed (or "flat") engines. Pretty much the exact opposite of inline configurations really.

And neither flat nor inline configurations are out of date. Why would they be? Taking the case of the GT2, it is a turbo charged engine. Generally speaking, turbo engines will always rev lower than a similar sized NA engine. Just look at the GT3: it is based on the same 3.6 litre 911 engine block as the GT2 but can rev to nearly 9000rpm because it is normally aspirated.

Porsche engines are some of the most technically advanced on the planet, regardless of what you may think of the configurations. To call them "ancient" is just silly.

[kigango123]

Porsches don't have inline engines, they have horizontally opposed (or "flat") engines. Pretty much the exact opposite of inline configurations really.

And neither flat nor inline configurations are out of date. Why would they be? Taking the case of the GT2, it is a turbo charged engine. Generally speaking, turbo engines will always rev lower than a similar sized NA engine. Just look at the GT3: it is based on the same 3.6 litre 911 engine block as the GT2 but can rev to nearly 9000rpm because it is normally aspirated.

Porsche engines are some of the most technically advanced on the planet, regardless of what you may think of the configurations. To call them "ancient" is just silly.

whatever, still doesn't have comparable power output to V configuration engines or even inline configuration for that matter

[Coventrysucks]

whatever, still doesn't have comparable power output to V configuration engines or even inline configuration for that matter

Sorry, I must have missed something.

Please show me this amazing 530hp, 685 Nm V6/I6 3.6-litre engined car!

[kigango123]

Sorry, I must have missed something.

Please show me this amazing 530hp, 685 Nm V6/I6 3.6-litre engined car!

Skyline , even the old supra could bring that about provided a bigger turbo.

[The_Canuck]

Right, stock? No. Kthxbai.

[kigango123]

Right, stock? No. Kthxbai.

The new skyline will out-horse the gt2, stock. plus Nissan always included an overboost button in the skyline should pull hp close to 560 if it is not there already. :rolleyes:

[Jack_Bauer]

Skyline , even the old supra could bring that about provided a bigger turbo.

There are tuned Porsches with over 900bhp from the existing flat-6. What's your point?

Stick a huge turbo on ANY sports car engine and you'll improve the power hugely. Porsche's trick is that they are still bulletproof, totally responsive and tractable at any rev range, and somehow more fuel and emissions efficient despite the larger turbos and greater power output.

[clutch-monkey]

Skyline , even the old supra could bring that about provided a bigger turbo.

so can the porsche
techart, gemballa etc...

[The_Canuck]

The new skyline will out-horse the gt2, stock. plus Nissan always included an overboost button in the skyline should pull hp close to 560 if it is not there already. :rolleyes:

From what I've read it's only having 450. Read your own sig.

[kigango123]

From what I've read it's only having 450. Read your own sig.

It was the only engine i could mention on the fly, but fact remains that even with their variable fart blowing technologies, the gt2 power to displacement figures are not that amazing.

[Coventrysucks]

Skyline , even the old supra could bring that about provided a bigger turbo.

Oh, so it does have comparable power output to V configuration engines or even inline configuration for that matter.

[clutch-monkey]

It was the only engine i could mention on the fly, but fact remains that even with their variable fart blowing technologies, the gt2 power to displacement figures are not that amazing.
hp/L??? you serious?

Oh, so it does have comparable power output to V configuration engines or even inline configuration for that matter.
lmao

[h22a]

GT2 pawns all
i'd have no issue taking a new GT2 over preety much anything japan has ever made let alone some riced out skyline.
fit that NOS kiango and go back to supercars.net - Dont go comparing the GT2 to a car that hasnt even reached final production yet. out horse it? according to whom, initial D?

[MRR]

whatever, still doesn't have comparable power output to V configuration engines or even inline configuration for that matter

Er No? And tuners have pumped up to 1000+ bhp out of Porsche flat 6 engines (no Nitrous Oxide just enormous turbos).