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charged
05-13-2007, 05:10 AM
Got this off another website, thats an amazing time

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208327/nissan_gtr.html



And as part of the preparations, the 450bhp V6-engined, four-wheel-drive machine is aiming to make a series of record-breaking runs at the legendary Nürburgring circuit in Germany. It was heading there when our spies saw the car - and snapped this first picture of the interior.

According to experts, the newcomer is currently completing laps of the dem­anding track in only seven minutes, 15 seconds - which means the Nissan is averaging as much as 110mph! The assessments are being carried out while the car is still in its disguised form, with black masking covering the nose and rear end. However, what is clear - thanks to our exclusive picture of the cabin - is that an LCD display will take pride of place in the centre of the GT-R's dashboard.

The latest Nissan will get a semi-automatic gearbox and bucket-style racing seats, too. Company bosses have yet to confirm when the car will go on sale in this country. How­ever, it's believed the new Skyline could set buyers back more than £55,000 should they wish to im­port one personally from Japan.


Records courtesy Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times#Current_Miscellaneo us_Lap_Records:_OEM_Passenger_Vehicles_.26_Sport_R acers

derekthetree
05-13-2007, 05:58 AM
so it laps the same as a 911 with 535bhp and weighs just about 1300kg

only one emoticon needed

:rolleyes:

2ndclasscitizen
05-13-2007, 06:08 AM
Not bad considered it apparently weighs nearly 1800kg.

Falcon500
05-13-2007, 06:35 AM
This is all impressive but rember its all specualtion atm this car might still be very diffrent by the time we get it.

my porsche
05-13-2007, 07:31 AM
Too bad it's target audience doesn't have a clue as to what the Nurburgring is.

The_Canuck
05-13-2007, 07:39 AM
Too bad it's target audience doesn't have a clue as to what the Nurburgring is.

...KOTR...:p

P4g4nite
05-13-2007, 08:41 AM
Bridge for sale!.......Going cheap..

fisetdavid26
05-13-2007, 09:10 AM
Wow. Awesome performance. I can't wait to see the final version! I just hope we won't read stupid comments like "Meh. 7'15. I can do 3'58 with my 1300 hp R34 y0o."

P4g4nite
05-13-2007, 09:26 AM
Well you see Fiestadavid, any "stupid comments" would automatically be redundant because of the 7:15 claim already made when the caliber of vehicle required to make such a time is considered.

The production GTR is as likely to do a 7:15 around the Nuburgring as it is to be powered by admiring glances.

drakkie
05-13-2007, 09:26 AM
This is all impressive but rember its all specualtion atm this car might still be very diffrent by the time we get it.

Not too likely since they clearly appear to have finished the principle solutions phase and are now in the last bit of the detailing phase... Nissan won't be too happy to make any big changes by now as it'd be like redesigning the entire car :rolleyes:

Quiggs
05-13-2007, 09:30 AM
I heard from a guy whose brother works for a company that was kinda involved in building the new GTR, and he said that the Skyline really ran a 32 second lap, but it was so fast that no one could see the car, so they had to detune it. True story.

fisetdavid26
05-13-2007, 09:31 AM
Well you see Fiestadavid, any "stupid comments" would automatically be redundant because of the 7:15 claim already made when the caliber of vehicle required to make such a time is considered.

The production GTR is as likely to do a 7:15 around the Nuburgring as it is to be powered by admiring glances.
Yeah, I understand. Thanks for your input.

On a side note, it's fisetdavid, not fiestadavid. Unless you modified it yourself! :)

VtecMini
05-13-2007, 09:44 AM
Not too likely since they clearly appear to have finished the principle solutions phase and are now in the last bit of the detailing phase... Nissan won't be too happy to make any big changes by now as it'd be like redesigning the entire car :rolleyes:Far be it for me to question the ineffable darkkie, but the fact that they are testing the car to me suggests that they are prepared to make changes. Surely the very principle of testing is the process of finding the best solution in the interest of improvement.

Changes don't have to total re-design. For example, what if they running a series of tests on different tyres, to decide which one they were to use when it goes on sale? How about tweaks to the transmission's software?

It's all somewhat irrelevant anyway. It's all just autoexpress conjecture, just for a change.

Ferrer
05-13-2007, 10:50 AM
It still is ugly though...

Waugh-terfall
05-13-2007, 02:01 PM
oOOH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE NURB' WEBCAM!

P4g4nite
05-13-2007, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I understand. Thanks for your input.

On a side note, it's fisetdavid, not fiestadavid. Unless you modified it yourself!
No probs 'Avid. Sorry about the typo, its my dickslexia.

carsnut
05-13-2007, 02:44 PM
Got this off another website, thats an amazing time

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208327/nissan_gtr.html





Records courtesy Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times#Current_Miscellaneo us_Lap_Records:_OEM_Passenger_Vehicles_.26_Sport_R acers

Lies, Lies, Lies, and even more Lies..................................There is no way in hell a f**king Skyline can beat a Carrera GT on such a long track. :eek: It's not even listed in wikipedia.

fisetdavid26
05-13-2007, 02:59 PM
oOOH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE NURB' WEBCAM!
O RLY?

The_Canuck
05-13-2007, 03:10 PM
Ha, you guys fell for the Wiki trap. Damn anyone can edit style...:p

P4g4nite
05-13-2007, 03:12 PM
*Breaking news*

Some have questioned the legitimacy of these claims but the truth is that this is merely the tip of an iceberg of records set to fall.
The reason for this can be traced to one important development, the new GTR will be using a revolutionary power source : Fanboy enthusiasm. Nissan engineers have managed to extract and harness this immensely potent and combustible element directly from the fanboys through their preferred medium, internet forums.
Reportedly not only is this fuel powerful, it is also infinitely renewable. It's economical too, tests have shown that a car can run for weeks on the fanboyism produced from a single paragraph of unfounded rumor.

Of course pollution is a major concern, with fanboys already responsible for a massive 95% of internet rubbish. But like Bill gates said "You can't stop the internet and you can't stop me".

rev440
05-13-2007, 03:52 PM
If you guys ohnestly belive this than I have some nice ocean front property in Ohio if any one would like to buy it.

h00t_h00t
05-13-2007, 04:30 PM
Its from Autoexpress, so its a load of cack.

baddabang
05-13-2007, 05:51 PM
I heard from a guy whose brother works for a company that was kinda involved in building the new GTR, and he said that the Skyline really ran a 32 second lap, but it was so fast that no one could see the car, so they had to detune it. True story.

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

That detune must have taken forever, those stickers are had to get off :p

ruim20
05-14-2007, 01:50 AM
weird list on winki lol, weird news to, 7.15... right... :D

carsnut
05-14-2007, 02:06 AM
I heard from a guy whose brother works for a company that was kinda involved in building the new GTR, and he said that the Skyline really ran a 32 second lap, but it was so fast that no one could see the car, so they had to detune it. True story.

What was "the guy's brother" smoking?? 32 second lap in what:confused: ? Need for Speed Underground?. I'm sorry, but this whole thread is just a motherload of lies (for those who haven't already figured it out). ;)

kingofthering
05-14-2007, 08:25 AM
7:15.... hahahahaha more like sub-7:42.

Rockefella
05-14-2007, 10:17 AM
What was "the guy's brother" smoking?? 32 second lap in what:confused: ? Need for Speed Underground?. I'm sorry, but this whole thread is just a motherload of lies (for those who haven't already figured it out). ;)

My uncle actually has a prototype of the new GT-R. He said he ran a 33 second lap.

jediali
05-14-2007, 11:50 AM
My uncle actually has a prototype of the new GT-R. He said he ran a 33 second lap.

with or without nozz

lordofDskyline
05-14-2007, 01:02 PM
thats good driving

NSXType-R
05-14-2007, 02:41 PM
So what does a stock R34 run on the Nurburgring compared to a stock 911?

The_Canuck
05-14-2007, 02:42 PM
7:15.... hahahahaha more like sub-7:42.

...what?

Viper007
05-14-2007, 03:36 PM
Yea, I don't think so thanks for playing though. Any predicted times?

kingofthering
05-14-2007, 04:42 PM
...what?

The 997 GT3 completes a lap in 7:42, so the Turbo with a lot more HP should do it in a lot less time. But the GT-R has always been designed to conquer the 911 Turbo. Thus, the GT-R is as fast or possibly faster than a (997) 911 Turbo.

monaroCountry
05-14-2007, 07:08 PM
I doubt this, not with a havy car and only 450-480hp. The 7.15 time is absolutely unrealistic.

The_Canuck
05-14-2007, 07:29 PM
The 997 GT3 completes a lap in 7:42, so the Turbo with a lot more HP should do it in a lot less time. But the GT-R has always been designed to conquer the 911 Turbo. Thus, the GT-R is as fast or possibly faster than a (997) 911 Turbo.

First off, the GT3 is a track car and should run the ring faster then a turbo, second you said 'Sub 7:42' which is redundent because 7:15 is sub 7:42.

kingofthering
05-14-2007, 08:02 PM
Sorry, I should have cleared it up, what I meant to say was that it takes approximately 7:42 for a lap, maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more.

edit- Also, the old GT-R did it in 7:54 with 280-ish HP so it should be less than that.

clutch-monkey
05-14-2007, 08:34 PM
But the GT-R has always been designed to conquer the 911 Turbo. Thus, the GT-R is as fast or possibly faster than a (997) 911 Turbo.

except...that's never been the case

kingofthering
05-14-2007, 09:15 PM
except...that's never been the case

Well... this one should be = or greater, they've been seen testing at the Nuerburgring with a 997 Turbo behind it.

clutch-monkey
05-14-2007, 09:22 PM
Well... this one should be = or greater
no......

monaroCountry
05-14-2007, 10:59 PM
edit- Also, the old GT-R did it in 7:54 with 280-ish HP so it should be less than that.

Except that Nissan fudged up the result to show a better better time. Independant tests from European mags have shown the stock GTR can only go around the ring at around 8.28.

carsnut
05-14-2007, 11:16 PM
My uncle actually has a prototype of the new GT-R. He said he ran a 33 second lap.

Care to show us?:rolleyes: 33 second lap around what?

clutch-monkey
05-14-2007, 11:22 PM
Care to show us?:rolleyes: 33 second lap around what?
you're not serious are you?







it was a lap of tsukuba

Ferrer
05-14-2007, 11:57 PM
Except that Nissan fudged up the result to show a better better time. Independant tests from European mags have shown the stock GTR can only go around the ring at around 8.28.
But the R33 GT-R was known to do 7:56 (it was in an Evo issue, long time ago). How can the R34 be slower than the R33?

Viper007
05-15-2007, 12:12 AM
Given that the R33 and R34 ran the ring in 7:56 and 7:54 (from posts above), I believe it illogical to think that the new one will run even remotely close to 7:15. Personally I think the car will be greatly balanced, but will not be one to keep up with the new turbo.

IWantAnAudiRS6
05-15-2007, 09:15 AM
The R33, which managed a very Hollywood 7:59, had 183bhp/tonne.

The new Skyline will have better aerodynamics (the R33 had a shocking 0.35Cd), more onboard sophistication than ever before, and also will have around 250bhp/tonne (taking a 450bhp/1800kg specification into question).

I don't think it'll see 7:15, but you never know.

Rockefella
05-15-2007, 09:51 AM
Care to show us?:rolleyes: 33 second lap around what?

The nurburgring. I don't have any pictures because my uncle is on vacation with it.

Kitdy
05-15-2007, 11:37 AM
The nurburgring. I don't have any pictures because my uncle is on vacation with it.

My uncle lapped the Nürburgring in 32 .6 seconds in a Porsche 930 in 1992. Tru-say.

Slicks
05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
My uncle lapped the Nürburgring in 32 .6 seconds in a Porsche 930 in 1992. Tru-say.

MY uncle can beat up your uncle! He RAN the n-ring in 31.2 seconds!

kingofthering
05-15-2007, 12:11 PM
MY uncle can beat up your uncle! He RAN the n-ring in 31.2 seconds!

O RLY? My uncle's uncle did it in -9 nanoseconds in a GT-R with a nitrous kit. top that.:D

Ferrer
05-15-2007, 12:32 PM
My uncle did it in 21h 35min 43secs in a Citroen Visa. Beat that.

Speed is overrated. And the Nurburing too.

The_Canuck
05-15-2007, 01:00 PM
Yeah, well I ran the Nurburgring in 22 seconds, damn noobs.

Kitdy
05-15-2007, 01:57 PM
I hate all of your guys uncles.

fisetdavid26
05-15-2007, 02:21 PM
This thread is gone to hell.

*inserts cat pics for now on please.*

jediali
05-15-2007, 02:32 PM
my pleasure
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/MonorailCat.jpg

Kitdy
05-15-2007, 02:35 PM
I love that cat!

baddabang
05-15-2007, 02:57 PM
http://catmas.com/images/2006/12/monorail-cat-has-left-the-station.gif

jediali
05-15-2007, 04:22 PM
HAHAHAHA ^^

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/pc.jpg

monaroCountry
05-15-2007, 04:35 PM
But the R33 GT-R was known to do 7:56 (it was in an Evo issue, long time ago). How can the R34 be slower than the R33?

Regarding the GTR's sub 8 minute supposed record, here is the true story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The times below were set by professional European drivers who have vast experiences driving fast cars and driving around the ring.

Apparently the sub 8 min Skyline GTR R33 had full slicks, non standard boost, chipped computer, and limiters removed.

The best you could expect from a GTR around the ring would be 8min 28.1 sec.

AUTOCAR NURBURGRING ARTICLE

The Caterham's rear tyres howl in protest as I stroke its nose deftly through the Nurburgring's final corner. The crowd rises to its feet and a sea of Union Jacks are waved as I cross the line in record time. Then, through the mayhem, someone hands me a huge white telephone, ringing out above the cacophony...

Monday, 4.50am: the bedside alarm rudely terminates my dream and I remember that there's a new Porsche 911 parked outside. My aim today is to cross the Channel and drive to the Nordschleife in Germany to meet the men from Caterham, as well as a legend called Stefan and his extraordinary "Yellow Bird" Ruf Porsche.

Our goal could scarcely be more simple. We want to break the production car lap record for the famous old 12.95-mile Nurburgring. Currently it stands at 7min 59sec, set by a Nissan Skyline GTR in 1995. But given that the Skyline set the time during its development stage and was free of the speed limiter that prevents UK versions from doing more than 156mph, we can no longer count it as the true production car record holder. Especially as it's far from clear how much turbo boost the GTR was running during the lap, or how much tweaking the rear-wheel steer system had undergone.

So for these reasons and more, the standard production car lap record will no longer belong to the Skyline after this event; it will instead hold the record for a modified road car. Unless, of course, the unchipped, unfettled GTR that colleague Allan Muir is due to arrive in tomorrow can match, or perhaps better, that 7min 59sec time...


Caterham Superlight R: 8min 6.2sec
Ruf CTR II: 8min 15.0sec
Nissan Skyline GTR: 8min 28.1 sec
Porsche 911 Carrera: 8min 38.4sec

Thanks to Bridgestone for all its tyres

Article written by Stephen Sutcliffe.

From Autocar 17th December 1997.
http://www.caterham.force9.co.uk/ring.htm

Ferrer
05-15-2007, 11:03 PM
Regarding the GTR's sub 8 minute supposed record, here is the true story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The times below were set by professional European drivers who have vast experiences driving fast cars and driving around the ring.

Apparently the sub 8 min Skyline GTR R33 had full slicks, non standard boost, chipped computer, and limiters removed.

The best you could expect from a GTR around the ring would be 8min 28.1 sec.

AUTOCAR NURBURGRING ARTICLE

The Caterham's rear tyres howl in protest as I stroke its nose deftly through the Nurburgring's final corner. The crowd rises to its feet and a sea of Union Jacks are waved as I cross the line in record time. Then, through the mayhem, someone hands me a huge white telephone, ringing out above the cacophony...

Monday, 4.50am: the bedside alarm rudely terminates my dream and I remember that there's a new Porsche 911 parked outside. My aim today is to cross the Channel and drive to the Nordschleife in Germany to meet the men from Caterham, as well as a legend called Stefan and his extraordinary "Yellow Bird" Ruf Porsche.

Our goal could scarcely be more simple. We want to break the production car lap record for the famous old 12.95-mile Nurburgring. Currently it stands at 7min 59sec, set by a Nissan Skyline GTR in 1995. But given that the Skyline set the time during its development stage and was free of the speed limiter that prevents UK versions from doing more than 156mph, we can no longer count it as the true production car record holder. Especially as it's far from clear how much turbo boost the GTR was running during the lap, or how much tweaking the rear-wheel steer system had undergone.

So for these reasons and more, the standard production car lap record will no longer belong to the Skyline after this event; it will instead hold the record for a modified road car. Unless, of course, the unchipped, unfettled GTR that colleague Allan Muir is due to arrive in tomorrow can match, or perhaps better, that 7min 59sec time...


Caterham Superlight R: 8min 6.2sec
Ruf CTR II: 8min 15.0sec
Nissan Skyline GTR: 8min 28.1 sec
Porsche 911 Carrera: 8min 38.4sec

Thanks to Bridgestone for all its tyres

Article written by Stephen Sutcliffe.

From Autocar 17th December 1997.
http://www.caterham.force9.co.uk/ring.htm
That's very interesting indeed, but the issues I'm talking about was from about 2000 and it featured all the cars that had done sub-8 minute laps. Amongst them they were the 911 GT3, the Super Seven Superlight R500 or the R33 GT-R. I can try to find it if you are interested.

Falcon500
05-15-2007, 11:39 PM
But the R33 GT-R was known to do 7:56 (it was in an Evo issue, long time ago). How can the R34 be slower than the R33?

WEIGHT

The r34 despite its torque increases and other such refinements was a heavy beast much heavier then the r33.

Its also this reason why the r32 GT-R was the fastest on the 1/4 :)

john14
05-16-2007, 07:04 AM
Originally Posted by Rockefella
My uncle actually has a prototype of the new GT-R. He said he ran a 33 second lap.

Rocke, do not worry, I noticed your typo. You forgot to add a decimal point to the lap time. A Nissan Skyline GT-R is easily the greatest car of all time and the new GT-R prototype ran a 3.3 second(s) lap of the 'ring... your uncle's driving was great as well :D

Rockefella
05-18-2007, 01:28 AM
Rocke, do not worry, I noticed your typo. You forgot to add a decimal point to the lap time. A Nissan Skyline GT-R is easily the greatest car of all time and the new GT-R prototype ran a 3.3 second(s) lap of the 'ring... your uncle's driving was great as well :D

Damn, my mistake. It was a 3.3 lap.. stupid period key.

Like I said, I would get proof, but my uncle's on vacation in Antarctica.

jediali
05-18-2007, 01:38 AM
Damn, my mistake. It was a 3.3 lap.. stupid period key.

Like I said, I would get proof, but my uncle's on vacation in Antarctica.

Is he there with Supraboy's uncle?


my uncle has a supra with a out of stock turbo, air intake, computer chip, and racing transmission in it. and its pushin 1500 horse.
(http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7318&page=5)

RE雨宮-FD3S
05-20-2007, 08:17 PM
How reliable is that source

It's faster than the previous generations, but prob only get around 7:40
7 15 is almost as fast as the M3 GTR

Rotary.freak
08-22-2007, 12:01 PM
oOOH, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE NURB' WEBCAM!

The nurb has a webcam thats actually accessible to the public or was that some form of subtle sarcasm?

BTW, my uncle can beat all your uncles in his spaceshuttle type R with nawz... He's probably out racing his spaceshuttle right now beating those stock NASA fags...

monaroCountry
08-22-2007, 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by supraboy
my uncle has a supra with a out of stock turbo, air intake, computer chip, and racing transmission in it. and its pushin 1500 horse

My Nissan GTR with TRD, BMW M, SRT, HSV, FPV and AMG stickers lapped the world in in 2.1 seconds!!!!!!! The only other mods made apart from stickers include neons and 13inch mufflers.

A friend of a friend of a friend's GTR made 13 million trillion billion RWHP with the same mods.

Lets Gekiga In
08-26-2007, 02:35 PM
You know, thanks to my new job, I might actually be able to afford a GT-R.