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fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:12 AM
"Territory will redefine the local automotive market."
– Geoff Polites, President, Ford Australia, 1999-2004

Four years and $500 million of exhaustive research, design, engineering and testing culminate today with the launch of the new Ford Territory.

Territory represents the latest development of a continuing tradition of innovation and ingenuity at Ford Australia.

Designed to adapt endlessly to the ever-changing needs of Australian motorists, Territory offers car-like styling and vehicle dynamics with the versatility of a traditional SUV or people mover.

Territory will be built on the same assembly line as Falcon and shares the award winning Falcon's engine, transmission and an adaptation of the critically acclaimed Control Blade IRS.

Territory, however, has a completely different underbody structure, unique front suspension and an all-wheel drive system incorporating the latest global technology.

"The idea for Territory began – as all great cars do – by recognising a customer need," said Vehicle Director Russell Christophers.

Christophers took the lead in researching and developing the Territory concept in 1999.

"Hours of extensive market research established a growing need for a vehicle combining the best characteristics of family sedans, traditional SUVs and people movers.

"The owners of these traditional vehicles were all reasonably happy, but could quickly identify areas where their vehicle didn't quite match their wants and needs.

"Family sedan owners loved their car's performance and handling, but wished the car was more adaptable to their lifestyle.

"SUV owners loved the command driving position and the interior versatility, but wished their vehicle could handle more like a car than a truck – particularly in city driving. Most freely admitted to never exploiting the off-road capability of those vehicle's 4WD systems and said they weren't happy with the upfront and ongoing costs.

"People movers offer great practicality to their owners, but almost to a person they commented on the lack of aspiration of driving such a vehicle, and hated being 'the bus driver'."

Christophers said Ford created a triangle with a family sedan at the apex, a people mover in one corner and a traditional SUV in the other.

"In the middle lay an area for a hybrid vehicle that could offer the best of all those vehicles, a sweet spot waiting to be hit.

"Territory does more than hit that sweet spot. It smacks it out of the stadium."

Territory has been created to be equally at home in urban or outdoor environments, with a flexible interior offering functionality and versatility for up to seven people, without sacrificing on style or aesthetics.

Territory will also be the only vehicle of its type in Australia to launch with both all-wheel drive (AWD) and rear-wheel drive (RWD) variants.

Rear-wheel drive customers will enjoy the other benefits of Territory's extensive engineering program, along with the style, command driving position and interior flexibility benefits inherent in the new vehicle.

"There is a significant group of customers out there who have told us that while they want a lot of the features and advantages that Territory will have, they don't need full-time AWD capability," said Christophers.

"For these people, RWD Territory is a more logical progression from the traditional large sedan or wagon. Many of these customers have migrated into large 4WDs simply because they are looking for a higher ride height and interior flexibility.

"They have a limited, or in many cases no need for the 4WD capability of those vehicles but have previously had no option but to accept it and pay for it as standard equipment, just to get the package they wanted.

"The RWD Territory offers the command driving position and flexibility customers want in a vehicle perfectly suited to those people with no ambition to venture off the beaten track."

Christophers said Territory was the ultimate lifestyle package.

"Territory is practical and versatile, with an interior that accommodates an active lifestyle while being stylish and fun to drive.

"Its combination of styling, features, performance, safety and outstanding value for money make the new Territory one of the finest cars to ever roll off a Ford assembly line."

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:14 AM
CHOOSE YOUR OWN TERRITORY

Territory customers will be able to choose either an entry or a high series vehicle with both available with the choice of either rear-wheel-drive or all-wheel-drive.

"Territory will offer Australian consumers a range of choices with their vehicle they haven't experienced before," said Ford Australia Marketing and Sales Vice President, Bruce McDonald.

"The different specification levels will allow them to choose the exterior and interior appointments that matter most to them, while also allowing them to have either RWD or AWD capabilities."

The entry-level Territory TX will be generously equipped with standard safety features including traction control, anti-lock brakes, and front airbags. Creature comforts will include air-conditioning, CD player, electric windows, power seats and power-adjustable pedals.

The RWD Territory TX will feature the Acutrac handling system, combining an all-new Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension and optimised version of the award-winning Control Blade IRS.

The range-topping Territory Ghia includes standard leather seat trim, cruise control, a six-stack CD player, alloy wheels, side curtain airbags and Reverse Sensing System.

A new mid-series Territory, the TS, will join the line-up in the fourth quarter of 2004.

The TS comes complete with the high end instrument panel and centre console as Ghia, incorporating the Ford premium sound system and dual zone climate control air-conditioning. It will also feature unique alloy wheels and side curtain airbags.

The AWD vehicles feature the same equipment levels as their RWD equivalents, but come with the Acutrac Plus handling system, which includes the first local application of the latest Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system that modulates braking and engine torque to enhance stability.

AWD owners can also option their vehicle to include Hill Descent Control.

FORD TERRITORY MODEL BY MODEL

TERRITORY TX RWD

Barra 182 4.0-litre DOHC, dual equal VCT I6 engine with ETC
Air conditioning
Power driver’s seat (4 way)
Front and rear power windows
Auto headlamps off (when locked by keypad)
Steering wheel audio controls
Sequential Sports Shift automatic gearbox
Descent grade logic
Interior Command Centre
Tissue box holder (with tissues)
Single CD
Trip computer
Eucalyptus seat fabric
17-inch steel wheels
Front passenger grab handle
60/40-split fold second row seat
Optional third row seat
Optional sliding second row seat (standard when third row seat fitted)
Anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution
Traction control
Glovebox lamp
Power adjustable pedals
Painted accent color bumpers and mouldings (with body colour option)
12-volt power outlet in front console
12-volt power outlet in second row seat console
12-volt power outlet in rear luggage area
30 storage compartments (7-seat model)
32 storage compartments (5-seat model)


TERRITORY TX AWD

As with Territory TX RWD but with the following features:
All-Wheel Drive
Dynamic Stability Control
Optional Hill Descent Control


TERRITORY GHIA RWD

As Territory TX RWD but with the following additional features:
Automatic headlamps on/off
Dual zone climate control air conditioning
Leather seat trim in Eucalyptus
Leather wrapped Sequential Sports Shifter
Leather steering wheel
Cruise control
17-inch alloy wheels
Full body color-coded bumpers and mouldings
Electrochromatic rear vision mirror
Six-way power driver's seat with memory function
Front and rear door courtesy lamps
Sun visor vanity mirror lamps
Premium 6 Stack CD Player (7 speakers)
Premium Interior Command Centre with colour TFT display screen
Overhead console
Footwell illumination (front)
Trip computer (ICC located)
Fog lamps
Reverse Sensing System
Cargo shelf
Cargo net
31 storage compartments (7-seat model)
33 storage compartments (5-seat model)
Side curtain airbag


TERRITORY GHIA AWD

As with Entry AWD but with the following features:
All-Wheel Drive
Dynamic Stability Control
Optional Hill Descent Control

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:15 AM
DRAWING INTO NEW TERRITORY

Ford Australia's designers were presented with a genuine challenge in creating the new Ford Territory.

"We had to create a vehicle that embodied the strength and power of a traditional SUV, while having the prestige, agility and nimbleness of a sporting sedan," said Ford Asia Pacific Design Director Simon Butterworth.

"All the market research and hours of customer focus groups pointed to the same fact. Australians like the strength of a traditional SUV but don't like the baggage that comes with such a vehicle.

"They dislike the lack of manoeuverability in the city, where most of these vehicles are driven. Quite often the driving experience is one they don't want to remember.

"The element they did like was the overall versatility such a vehicle gave them.

"From a design perspective, we had to take the strengths of an SUV and drive those elements the customers liked into a design that had a lot of car-like attributes as well."

Butterworth said he and Exterior Design Manager Graham Wadsworth focussed on three key areas for the exterior design of Territory.

Strength

Butterworth said incorporating the strength of a traditional SUV into Territory was a key element of the exterior design.

"We had a really frantic period of time where we devoted a lot of time to really strengthening the exterior design.

"We had some healthy discussions with Ford Design Vice President J Mays, who was very supportive of getting this strength and Ford DNA into Territory.

"That meant we were able to improve the stance of the vehicle, making the attitude and body section much stronger.

"The final design has an inert poise, an athletic stance, emphasised by the short front and rear overhangs.

"One of the real attributes of Territory is just how good the rear of the car looks; it has a presence that many vehicles in this class just don't have."

Butterworth said while incorporating strength was a key component, it was just as important to maintain a clean design.

"We worked hard to make a connection with what was happening on the front end and mirror that at the rear. This is typified by the way the cut line runs through the body.

Butterworth said he likened Territory to a runner on the starting blocks.

"There's strength and a latent, muscular feel about a runner. We wanted to incorporate some of that latent potential into the side view.

"The cut line of the rear bumper relates well to forward motion, which is very important from a design perspective."

Butterworth said Territory was a vehicle designed to appeal to a youthful market.

"Buying into Territory is all about youthful lifestyle and there's just a bucket load of what the Australian lifestyle offers in this vehicle.

"That's something we really wanted to use from a design philosophy point of view. Looking at the subtle changes of the vehicle from initial design to the last round of research, I believe we have hit the button big time."

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:16 AM
CUTTING EDGE INTERIOR

The Ford Territory signals a new era in automotive interior design.

Every interior element of the groundbreaking vehicle has been designed with one simple philosophy uppermost in the minds of Ford's interior specialists – Territory must be endlessly adaptable to the Australian lifestyle.

Interior Design Manager Marcus Hotblack said his team used the famous Swiss army knife as the inspiration for their work.

"A Swiss army knife has every gadget under the sun and can literally do anything in any situation. We wanted the interior of Territory to be like that.

"The Swiss army knife embodies the whole multi-function nature of Territory."

Territory will offer capacity for seven adults to travel in comfort, with each row of seats located higher than the one in front of it.

This innovative 'theatre style' seating design means passengers in the second and optional third row of seats will be able to see more and also provides excellent ergonomics to ensure a comfortable ride.

"One of the main reasons a lot of customers purchase SUVs is because they are positioned high and feel in command of their surroundings – but they don't like having to climb up into the vehicle," said Hotblack.

"The first thing you'll notice about Territory is the ease of access. There's no climb into the cabin. You'll simply step across into it.

"The command driving position in Territory provides good vision in typical urban driving situations, such as manoeuvring the vehicle in shopping centre car parks."

Hotblack said passengers would enjoy similar levels of comfort with excellent visibility.

"We have added the option of an independently sliding second row seat, which can be moved backward or forward to provide extra leg room for passengers in the second or third row seat."

The second row seat features a 60/40 split-fold function and can be folded flat via a unique 'kneeling' seat arrangement – as the seat folds forward the seat base drops down and literally 'kneels', which means the seat cushion doesn't hold the back up.

Hotblack said Territory was designed for the second and third row headrests to stay with the seats when they are folded flat, unlike with many other vehicles.

"The third row seats can't be removed but they can be configured to fold flat into the floor so that when both the second and third row seats are folded down there is a long, flat load space for flexible cargo carrying.

"The target third row seat occupants are generally children and teenagers, but the vehicle has all the safety systems to cater for adult passengers in the third row, giving full seven seat capacity when required.”

Territory will also feature an amazing number of interior storage areas – with 30 separate compartments in the entry-level seven-seater vehicle and an astonishing 33 in the high series five seater.

The instrument panel includes a glovebox, a centre compartment and a top tray, while the centre console houses a tissue box holder, gearshift lever trinket bin, two cup holders, a bin and a removable rubbish bin.

The front row has two front door map pockets, two flexible drink bottle holders, two compartments beside the seat and a lockable under seat bin.

The second row houses two door map pockets, two flexible drink bottle holders, two centre armrest cup holders and two seat pockets.

The optional third row includes two armrest bins and two cup holders, while rear and overhead storage is made up of a large rear load floor bin (five seater only), a small rear load floor bin, a compartment to house the jack, an overhead sunglass compartment (high series) and a cargo net (high series).

"The high number of storage compartments is in direct response to feedback we got from customers in the numerous design clinics conducted as part of the Territory program," said Hotblack.

"They include compartments designed to cope with life in the 21st century, such as a lockable storage area that can house items such as a mobile phone and personal organiser and slides under the driver's seat away from prying eyes."

Handbags and large bottles are amply catered for in Territory's capacious interior.

The storage compartments located in both driver and passenger seat sides can easily hold a large bottle or a handbag – items which typically are left to roll around on the back seat or footwell.

Hotblack said Territory's interior was designed to cater for the active, outdoor way of life enjoyed by Australians.

"Territory five seater features two large storage areas underneath the rear floor that can house sporting equipment or wet towels from a day at the beach.

"As well, a reversible wet and dry rear floor panel is included on five-seat vehicles, allowing owners to transport wet surf gear or take a trip to the local nursery without damaging the luggage compartment floor."

Territory boasts six cup holders in total, with two for each row of seats.

"We've also taken the drink holder concept one step further, with flexible drink bottle holders in each of the front and rear doors.

"Territory also includes three power sources and space for a travel fridge – which will be available as an option on all models. That's just part of an extensive accessory collection.

"Practicality has been a priority too. For example, one of the storage compartments in Territory is a rubbish bin, which can be removed and safely cleaned in a household dishwasher.

"Similarly, the rubber coated front row cup holder is removable for ease of cleaning."

Hotblack said there were two specific aims the interior design set out to achieve.

"The higher seating position of Territory enabled the design team to make all the interior surfaces feel lower, creating a feeling of spaciousness.

"The other thing we wanted to achieve was creating what we call a T-shape. This is the central spine running up to a T-form on the dashboard, reinforcing the strong image of a robust, lifestyle vehicle. We have built on the aesthetic 'DNA' created by the acclaimed BA range and have successfully evolved the direction to this active lifestyle package.

"That has helped in creating an interior that includes all the passengers, making them feel part of the interior and not alienated from it. At the same time it gives the driver a feeling of control with its driver-orientated cockpit, something our customers were emphatic about. It's an active family vehicle, and the T-shape definitely helps reinforce that theme."

Hotblack said catering to the needs of customers was key.

"From day one, the needs of the customer have been uppermost in our minds.

"We were constantly thinking about the customer's interaction with the interior – what they're looking for, what they want.

"We included features that are enduring and usable – not just gimmicks. They include a sturdy folding load space cover, which perfectly complements the liftglass feature at the rear and gives the vehicle a beautifully tailored look.

"We targeted an active family feel and I'm confident we hit the bullseye with the finished product.

"Territory has a fantastic interior package we're very proud of – boasting an interior design and ambience perfectly suited to the active Australian way of life," Hotblack said.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:17 AM
COLOURFUL TERRITORY

When the Ford Territory colour and trim designers went looking for inspiration, they found it in the form of the humble sports shoe.

"Our brief was to create a modern, energetic and fresh interior environment," said Colour and Trim Design Manager Sharon Gauci.

"The trigger for the colour and trim program was found in the developments, technologies and mixtures of materials found in a sports shoe.

"We used a single image of a sports shoe to define the trim and finishes program for Territory.

"By juxtaposing different materials, textures, details and hints of colour we have managed to create a dynamic interior ambience."

Gauci said particular attention had been paid to tiny details, such as small contrasting colour accents.

"The mix of opposing technical and leather grains brings elements of the interior to life, in line with design items found in the home or office such as computers, mobile phones, or on the underside of sport shoes etc."

Gauci said the Territory interior colour strategy was to provide an active, versatile and new interior environment.

"We designed a family of colour called Eucalyptus, taking its inspiration from the famous native tree. It was important to bring the outside in. With so many lifestyle shows, we have a fascination with plants and gardening at the moment. Also the spaces in our homes that were once defined as outside and inside are now being blurred.

"With a hint of green, the Eucalyptus family is an innovative, modern, fresh and very urban colour palette.

"Accent colours in orange, silver, white and black all complement the Eucalyptus family and are injected throughout the Territory interior."

Gauci said the Territory interior fabrics were deliberately simple in their design.

"The design team was very much influenced by directions in active apparel and footwear. We were seeing strong influences and cross over in street wear, sport wear and comfort wear, with the boundaries between these fashion directions no longer defined but quite relaxed.

"So with these directions in mind, we set out to design sporty, active fabrics.

"The designs are structured, linear patterns with a fresh and energetic 'city' approach of casual, upbeat motifs.

"The designs are simple and uncomplicated, with high and low effects in the fabric as well as micro-shapes within shapes."

Gauci said the predominantly functional nature of the interior demanded the fabric didn't dominate the environment.

"The colour, the look and especially the handle of the fabric were extremely important elements in achieving harmony, security and grounding qualities.

"The leather strategy is, once again, a simple design philosophy that is crisp and taut in appearance, but overall very relaxed.

"The beautiful soft feel of the leather is enhanced by small details such as the double stitching and perforated leather inserts.

"We think it all comes together beautifully," said Gauci.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:18 AM
CUSTOMERS TO FIND FRIENDLY TERRITORY

Delivering on customer needs is clearly evident in Territory's ergonomics package.

"From a design perspective, Territory's interior gave us a great challenge, as we wanted to really deliver on a host of package and ergonomic requirements," said Ford Design Director Simon Butterworth.

"There's a lot of ingenuity incorporated into Territory, with a lot of clever thought devoted to thinking about the driver and all the passengers.

"We had to ensure we catered for the needs of up to seven people sitting in the vehicle at the one time, ensuring all the controls were in the right place and maximising the storage capability of the vehicle.

"We also needed to think about how people would use Territory, and how we could best use the available space for needs of individual customers."

Fortunately, the package and ergonomic engineers had an excellent base to start from.

"Territory represents a package engineer's dream," said Package and Ergonomics Attribute Leader Roger Lewis.

"It has the roominess to suit a broad range of occupants, the visibility and ingress/egress to suit people at all life stages and plenty of storage capacity.

"All this flexibility is contained inside a vehicle that is physically no bigger than a Falcon, providing the customer with the freedom to enjoy the driving experience."

Lewis said customers would enjoy the command driving position.

"The driver's seat in Territory is higher off the floor than in a sedan. This has provided the vehicle with excellent ingress/egress, as the hip-point – or H-point – is about the same height from the ground as an average adult's hips when they are standing next to the vehicle.

"You don't climb up into Territory and you don't sit down into it either. You just slide into the vehicle, which is a real advantage.

"We have all-new seat designs for Territory, with 55mm of height adjustment in the four-way power driver's seat that is standard on the entry level model. The high series range will come standard with six-way power driver's seat with a memory function.

"That means we have excellent height adjustment and the capacity to easily accommodate people up to 194cm.

"In another first for an Australian vehicle, power adjustable pedals will be standard on Territory. This will allow occupants of all shapes and sizes to assume a safer, more comfortable driving position.

"Power adjustable pedals are especially useful for smaller drivers, eliminating the uncomfortable compromise of bunching their arms up against the steering wheel.

"Being able to adjust the pedals rearward allows them to stretch their legs to a more comfortable position, and then adjust the steering wheel to suit."

The rear flip glass on Territory opens to enable customers to place items in the rear cargo section without opening the lift gate.

The plastic appliqué extends much lower than the edge of the glass, allowing shorter people easier access to get items in and out of Territory.

"We have doors that open to 65 degrees (front) and 70 degrees (rear). In addition, when the door is restricted – say in a tight car park – Territory customers will still have excellent access to all seats.

"We've achieved this by having an all-new A-pillar structure with new hinges. The front of the door opening aperture has been pulled forward 60mm."

Lewis said the package team worked hard on keeping the floor to rocker sill height to a minimum.

"We were very particular about the step-over width. That's the distance between the H-point and the extreme outboard of the vehicle.

"Allowing people to get in and out of the vehicle in one movement was paramount to the team and we fought hard to keep that step-over width to a minimum."

Lewis said young families would appreciate the detail and thought that had gone into constructing the second row seat.

"The second row H-point, like the front seat, is about 750mm off the ground, which makes the second row seat particularly good if you have children with booster or child safety seats. Parents will not have to lean all the way into the car to buckle up their children.

"Easy access to the second row seat is provided by having the door opening with a fully upright C-pillar and the top of the rear door being a fair way from the customer's head. It makes putting anything in the second row seat a very easy task."

Lewis said Territory provided a high, upright driving position that generated a number of advantages.

"It's great for visibility because you can easily see further forward over the bonnet.

"We focussed on visibility for Territory, particularly being able to see all around the vehicle. It's important not just for driving safety, but also when reversing the vehicle out of your driveway and being aware of children or pets in close proximity."


Territory owners will particularly enjoy the excellent and well thought-out ergonomics of the vehicle.

"The grab handle, the position of the window switches, the door handle, the shifter and the pedals are all positioned so a wide range of customers can easily set themselves up in an excellent seating position with all controls in easy reach."

Lewis explained that Territory engineers had remained faithful to the three pillars of ergonomics.

"The first is findability – literally being able to find the right button at the right time.

"The second is accessibility – once you've found the right button, can you actually reach it?

"The third is useability – is the button intuitive, does it work the way you'd expect it to without having to consult the owner's manual?"

Lewis said there was much more to the field of ergonomics than posture.

"It's very much being able to have the driver or passengers interact with the vehicle quickly, so they don't have to take their eyes off the road.

"We've been able to achieve high levels with Territory through the use of Ramsis manikins. These are three dimension manikins created from large, anthropometric databases.

"These manikins are recreated with Computer Aided Design (CAD) so we can engender a number of manikins with a variety of shapes and sizes, from small children to 97th percentile adults.

"By using these manikins during the design process, we can accurately demonstrate what parameters we're trying to meet, whether it be accessing the CD player, finger curl around the steering wheel or reaching the indicator stalks.

"We used software that helps us to mould the instrument panel so we can look at things like visibility through the steering wheel.

"We employed CAD to a major degree in the design of BA Falcon, but the Territory program has taken that process to a new level," Lewis said.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:19 AM
ADDING THE CRAFTSMAN'S TOUCH

The large number of 'clean sheet' design parts in Territory provided the passionate craftsmanship team with an enormous challenge.

"Everyone got involved in the craftsmanship ideal of enhancing the visual and tactile quality of Territory," said project leader Salman Shami.

"The designers, the modellers, the CAD operators, the design engineering teams, the plant team, assembly operators, the test and development teams and our suppliers were an integral part of a concerted effort to provide a product the customer would recognise as something special.

"As with Barra, every single detail of Territory was examined, studying ways of improving quality and satisfying all the customer's senses when they sat in the car."

Exterior craftsmanship

The new doors and body side panels of Territory provided the craftsmanship team with the opportunity to start from scratch.

"We spent hundreds of hours studying the vehicle, from inside and outside, to ensure a clean, harmonious appearance.

"As this element of Territory consists of so many parts it represented a difficult task to co-ordinate. Starting from the initial design stage, we employed clay, stainless steel and computer generated models to allow the team to study the vehicle from all angles.

"Ultimately we made hundreds of changes, to finish with a profile boasting superb parallel lines that flow smoothly – particularly in the door openings.

"By getting in early, we found we would achieve all the characteristics required for good crash strength and structural rigidity, combined with a clean and uncluttered look."

All external touch and lift points received similar attention.

"The door handles were optimised to ensure the feel was comfortable and smooth and the rear deck lid lift handle designed to ensure it is smooth to the touch.

"To operate the lift gate and the flip glass two micro switches are used, which feel superior to the conventional paddle system. To ensure good grip even in the rain, the handle uses a specially developed non slip texture."

Interior craftsmanship

Shami said his team worked hard to add finishing touches to complement the design team's innovative interior.

"The luggage compartment in Territory boasts high quality luggage tie-downs. They're not cheap wire types, but die-cast zinc alloy items plated in durable chrome. They were chosen not only for their robust design, but also for their high quality look and feel."

"Our engineers spent a lot of time and effort ensuring the interior feels solid, robust and 'well screwed together'.

"After the first prototypes were built, we began in earnest to tune the sounds and operational feel of the controls and components within the vehicle.

"All surfaces were pushed and prodded and every storage compartment thoroughly analysed.

"One example was the lid for the top compartment on the dashboard. This was examined and tuned to ensure that it opened and closed smoothly and with a refined sound.

"Another example is the bottle holder strap. That particular design team went through many design iterations tuning the tactile feel, operational feel and the sound it makes when released.

"In the process they had to reject many tools before they were completely satisfied that that part met the high standards of craftsmanship for this vehicle."

Shami said these examples represented just a few of more than one thousand areas of Territory which were analysed and improved by the craftsmanship team.

"It may take some customers months – even years – to discover and delight in this painstaking attention to detail.

"But the smile on their faces when they find and appreciate the detail will make those thousands of hours worthwhile," Shami said.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:20 AM
SMARTER TERRITORY

A wide range of intelligent electronics systems complements Territory's innovative, user-friendly design.

The excellent visibility in Territory is boosted by the addition of the Reverse Sensing System.

Standard on the high series variants, Territory's Reverse Sensing System helps prevent damage to customers’ cars caused by unseen obstacles and gives drivers extra peace of mind when reversing into tight parking spaces.

The parking assistant uses a quartet of sensors discretely mounted in the rear bumper fascia, which emit warning signals through the stereo system speakers.

Reverse Sensing is automatically enabled when reverse is selected and reads the distance between the vehicle and obstacles in its reversing path.

The system warns of obstacles that are approximately 450mm to 1500mm from the rear of the vehicle. The warning tone sounds ever more rapidly as the distance closes.

Reverse Sensing does not override the need for drivers to be careful while reversing.

DVD-based satellite navigation

DVD-based satellite navigation is one of the many options available in Ford’s feature-laden Territory.

Operated via an infrared remote control, DVD-based mapping allows the driver to receive detailed instructions and a comprehensive list of points of interest en route, such as petrol stations, restaurants, hotels and historical monuments.

A speed lockout restricts inputs to the system when the vehicle is moving.

The main display screen is integrated into the centre console which can be split to provide a map and turn-by-turn information, as well as a zoom feature for particularly tricky navigating.

Audio and ICC security

Each audio system in Territory is electronically matched to the vehicle it is installed in. A security check is initiated each time the customer starts the car and, if the electronic codes do not match, the audio system refuses to work.

This renders the system useless to all vehicles but the original host vehicle.

The Interior Command Centre module is also protected by the same coding system that prevents stolen modules being swapped from car to car.

The ICC security code is buried deep in the unit’s electronic memory and does not rely on battery function to continue working.

Audio and cruise control button upgrade

The inclusion of Hill Descent Control as an option on AWD Territory has added new features to the vehicle's steering wheel mounted buttons.

The audio (and cruise control where fitted) buttons are the same as in the BA Falcon, with four per side, and a further two switches – a 'mode' button for audio control and an 'on/off' for the cruise – located behind the steering wheel.

The mode button allows drivers to cycle through AM, FM and CD options, and to change discs and tracks.

The cruise control buttons on Territory are pre-programmed to increase or decrease speed when the optional Hill Descent Control system is switched on.

The driver can set a preferred speed simply by using the cruise control buttons in steps of 1 km/h, from a minimum of 4 km/h up to a maximum speed of 25 km/h.

The speed selected by the driver remains the set speed until the system is switched off or if the brakes are applied. The driver can also increase or decrease the speed on the move.

The cruise control speed set function on Territory is unique in the Ford world.

Auto headlights

High series Territory variants are fitted with an ‘auto headlights’ feature that automatically illuminates the dipped beam headlamps when a predetermined light level is reached.

Entry level variants have a new 'auto off' delay feature.

This particular feature allows the customer to leave the headlights on when they arrive home in the dark. It allows customers the added security of an illuminated walk, before switching off the lights when they press the lock button on the key fob.

High series models also feature this enhancement on top of the standard full automatic mode of operation.

High series key fobs also store memory information including the last settings of the electronic seats.

Multiplex and CAN bus

Territory employs a multiplex wiring carrier system for the data required by the Controller Area Network (CAN), the vehicle's main electronic nervous system.

As with BA Falcon, this links the main on-board computers, allowing them to communicate their status and report faults.

These include the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), Body Electronics Module (BEM), heater integrated module, instrument cluster, audio system and traction control.

The system has been upgraded for the Territory program to incorporate the Dynamic Stability Control system (DSC) on all-wheel drive versions.

The super high-speed link also allows the traction control system to pass requests from the ABS modulator to the Powertrain Control Module for a spark or fuel supply reduction to limit wheelspin or slip.

The high-tech communications system also allows the implementation of smart user-friendly features such as speed dependent audio volume control.

CAN electronics also underpin the operation of speed-dependent windscreen wipers, varying the intermittent wipe speed as speed rises or falls.

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04-20-2004, 01:21 AM
COOL RUNNING IN ANY TERRITORY

Territory drivers and passengers will relax in perfect climatic comfort thanks to the adoption of the acclaimed Heating, Ventilation and Air Condition (HVAC) system debuted in the BA Falcon.

Run by a microprocessor, the system is able to cool or heat the Territory cabin with ease due to the system's large compressors and heat exchangers.

Subtle, but significant, changes have been made to the HVAC system in Territory.

They include the installation of a larger capacity condenser to offset the additional heat loads of Territory and new instrument panel face and demist ducting sub-systems to meet the different airflow distribution requirements of the Territory cabin.

The system operates more quietly, enhancing the feeling of luxury and serenity within the cabin.

Dual zone climate control is standard on the Ghia and TS variants while TX gets a 14-speed fan and semi-automatic cool-down and demist functions.

A lint and airborne debris filter is standard fit while a pollen filter is an option across the range.

The new HVAC system blows 150 litres of air per second (l/s) into the cabin for fast cool-down rates.

The actuators that direct the warm or cool air to the outlets are electronically controlled for quiet operation.

User-friendly features

Territory directs warm air to the rear outlets when the system’s mode setting is switched to direct warm air to the front footwells.

The HVAC has also adopted the BA program's set of control knobs and switches, designed to be intuitive and user-friendly.

Two switches are programmed to operate the most commonly desired settings, one for rapid cool down and one for demist.

These occupant benefits are possible thanks to the microprocessor controller fitted on both high and entry level models.

Dual zone climate control air conditioning on high series affords individual settings for both driver and front passenger.

Pollen filter

Territory provides a comfortable cabin environment for occupants, especially allergy sufferers.

The ventilation system is fitted with an airborne debris filter that restricts coarse dust and leaf particles from being drawn into the fresh air inlet ducts.

It also helps extend the ventilation system’s working life and boosts its effectiveness.

The filter is easily cleaned either at regular service intervals by the dealer, or more frequently by the owner in dusty or dirty operating environments.

A dealer-fitted particulate air filter prevents pollen and other fine airborne particles entering the cabin and irritating the sinuses or other allergy centres, causing occupant discomfort.

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04-20-2004, 01:22 AM
SIX OF THE BEST FOR TERRITORY

Offering a generous 182 kW at 5000 rpm and 380 Nm of torque at 3250 rpm, the Barra 182 engine is perfectly suited to both AWD and RWD applications of Territory.

Driveability is substantial due to the fat, flat torque curve of the DOHC in-line six offering accessible grunt throughout the entire rev range.

The high 6000 rpm rev limit allows excellent top-end power thanks to the four-valve double overhead camshaft configuration.

Territory benefits greatly from the work done on BA Falcon powertrain, which saw the introduction of infinitely variable camshaft timing to boost torque at any rpm position.

In addition to the improved performance across a broad rev range, there is a noticeable decrease in fuel consumption, especially at part throttle.

The camshafts can be advanced through a full 60 degrees, giving excellent fuel consumption at highway cruising speeds where the system is able to retard the timing by as much as 50 degrees, in addition to smooth running at idle when the camshaft can be advanced as much as 10 degrees.

The transition through the 60-degree advance/retard range is seamless, with variation activated via oil-pressure acting against the camshaft phaser.

An oil control valve is fitted on top of each phaser for immediate response and reliability. Mounting the oil control valve within the cylinder head removes the need for separate oil ways and offers greater durability and reliability, as well as packaging efficiencies and weight savings.

Exhaust gas recirculation is an important feature of the I6 engine, helping reduce the amount of unburned hydrocarbons leaving the tailpipe, and ensuring the Barra 182 engine meets stringent Euro II emission limits.

Territory's coil-on-plug system removes the need for high-tension leads, boosting reliability and durability of the ignition system.

The coil-on-plug set-up also provides more power to the spark plug, while the absence of a distributor pack on the engine saves weight and improves exterior packaging appearance.

Territory's ignition system uses long life spark plugs with a 150,000 km life cycle. They are located in the centre of the combustion chamber roof between the four valves.

Territory also features Ford's acclaimed failsafe cooling system, which progressively shuts down cylinders when the PCM detects engine overheating.

This 'limp-home' capability allows the engine to run in the event of an emergency, such as a radiator hose leak, and allow the driver to reach a service station.

The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) on Territory integrates systems such as the Electronic Throttle Control, dual VCT and cruise control, as well as fuel injection and automatic gearbox gearshift integration.

A wide band knock control strategy has been developed for the Barra 182 engine to prevent the potentially harmful effects of detonation as well as to cope with variable fuel quality.

It is activated across the entire rev range.

Advantages for customers are enhanced if they run on Premium Unleaded fuel. Increased spark advance means more power and greater consumption benefits without the risk of detonation.

Drive-by-wire Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) is fitted as standard to all Territory variants. It provides precision control of acceleration, helps reduce fuel consumption and emissions, and doubles as the cruise control actuation system, saving weight and improving NVH.

It also allows seamless integration and activation of the dual VCT system by being able to monitor exact throttle openings.

The cross-bolted alloy sump on Territory features an oil pan biased towards a more rapid return of lubricant to the oil pump pick up.

This is particularly important in the AWD version of Territory to accommodate the two front drive shafts. There is also twice the number of valve train components to lubricate in the DOHC Barra 182 I6.

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04-20-2004, 01:23 AM
AWD TERRITORY DRIVEN TO SUCCEED

The full-time all-wheel drive system in Territory marks a new chapter for Ford Australia engineering.

"Working in conjunction with other state-of-the-art chassis and powertrain systems, the AWD system in Territory will enhance vehicle stability, traction and handling," said Ford Australia Product Development Vice President Trevor Worthington.

"Territory will boast an AWD system that drives all the wheels all the time. This is unlike the 'on-demand' systems in other so-called AWD vehicles that only drive one axle, adding drive to the second axle only when slip is detected.

"With Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) as standard and the optional Hill Descent Control system, Territory offers a combination of abilities unheard of in this price category. Typically, these features are only found on premium imported AWD vehicles.

"The full-time AWD system on Territory will provide predictable handling and increased stability for cornering, towing and in crosswinds, especially on wet roads or gravel surfaces."

Worthington said the Territory program was designed to incorporate an AWD system that met with traditional Ford virtues of robustness and durability, without dramatically increasing cost of ownership.

"Territory is arguably the most researched vehicle in the history of Ford Australia. We have listened long and hard to what the customers wanted and the AWD system in Territory more than meets the Australian driving public's requirements," Worthington said.

How does it work?

The AWD Territory will employ a single-speed, full-time transfer case in conjunction with four-wheel traction control system using brake and engine intervention to control wheel slip.

Available engine torque will be distributed 62 per cent to the rear axle and 38 per cent to the front axle, giving Territory the rear-drive bias favoured by the extensive customer research that went into the new vehicle.

The four-speed electronic automatic transmission is similar to the critically acclaimed Sequential Sports Shift auto that made its debut in the BA Falcon.

A stiffer main case, 10-bolt rear connection and high contact ratio gear set contribute to improved drivetrain stiffness and noise reduction.

The new NV125 transfer case is mated to the transmission via a short, cast aluminium adaptor plate.

The transfer case is a single-speed, full-time open differential unit with torque splitting achieved via an internal planetary gear set.

Chosen for its robustness, light weight and packaging efficiency, the NV125 transfer case was selected by Territory engineers after extensive research and investigation of numerous AWD systems.

By utilising the stability control and traction control systems to direct torque at each wheel, expensive and complex torque-transfer and slip-limiting devices, such as clutch packs and viscous couplings, have been eliminated from the transfer case.

This ensures the Territory system is robust, durable and contributes to the vehicle's low running costs. The NV125 requires no regular maintenance.

Territory will employ a rear axle similar to that found in the BA Falcon V8, but will use a 4.10:1 axle ratio to enhance performance.

The front axle is an all-new compact design, engineered to meet the challenging packaging requirements presented by the longitudinal engine layout and increased ride height.

It is mounted to the front subframe and incorporated into the front chassis module. Equal length half shafts deliver torque to the front wheels.

The front driveshaft utilises a fixed constant velocity (CV) joint at one end and a plunging CV at the other, to deliver the high levels of refinement asked for by customers during the research phase of the Territory program.

The rear driveshaft is a two-piece design, incorporating a flex coupling at the transfer case output, a Hookes joint at the centre bearing and a plunging CV joint at the rear differential.

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04-20-2004, 01:24 AM
AUTOMATIC CHOICE TO FIND NEW TERRITORY

Enthusiastic drivers will delight in the news that Territory will come standard with the highly acclaimed Sequential Sports Shift automatic transmission.

The system offers the choice of three distinct driving styles; the freedom and excitement of sequential manual shifting, a more responsive fully automatic mode with top gear lockout or the more relaxed, intuitive adaptive automatic mode.

SSS enhances the Ford DNA of spirited driving with refinement, the ability to provide comfortable touring with good city response, as well as total manual control when required.

Performance Automatic Mode

When the gearshift lever is moved to the left, the transmission automatically changes down to third gear as Performance Auto Mode is selected.

The transmission will automatically select the appropriate gear for spirited driving, but uses only the first three gears, locking out fourth gear.

"PEF" or "PERF" will be displayed on the instrument cluster for 5 seconds on an entry level version, while the PERF notation will remain on all high series variants.

This is the recommended mode for towing.

Manual shifting and DPEF

Manual sequential downshifts are achieved by pushing the shifter forward and up-shifts by pulling backward.

In manual mode, the SSS control software won’t change to a higher gear when the revs reach the red line, but will initiate the now more refined electronic rev limiter to advise the driver to make a manual up-shift.

The system does not circumvent driver control if it thinks a higher gear should be selected. However, under certain circumstances, the transmission will downshift in response to a kick-down style wide-open-throttle movement by the driver.

The transmission will also downshift sequentially to first gear if the car cruises to a halt, for instance at an intersection. The system locks into first gear for launch and requires the driver to return to manual changes.

Adaptive Auto Mode

All Territory drivers will benefit from Ford's adaptive shift strategy.

Adaptive shift means the transmission 'learns' the driving style of the customer and adjusts the shift speeds accordingly.

For example, if the driver prefers a faster pace, the shift schedules will automatically respond more aggressively and adapt to the performance end of the scale.

If the driver is more relaxed, the shift changes are smoother and, in turn, more economical.

Territory drivers will also enjoy the downhill grade logic implemented into the SSS.

The automatic transmission 'reads' when the vehicle is travelling downhill and increasing speed. If the driver applies the brake the transmission automatically downshifts to provide engine braking and help control the vehicle speed.

If the vehicle continues to pick up speed, downhill grade logic will change down from third to second, to provide further engine braking – but only if the speed is below 50 km/h to prevent any potential damage to the gearbox.

This feature will help prevent the need for the driver to 'ride' the brakes when driving down steep grades.

Downhill grade logic is disengaged when the driver switches to manual sequential gear shifting.

Detail changes

Territory drivers will appreciate the high levels of refinement built into the transmission program, including an electronic reduction of engine torque – via spark retardation – during heavy acceleration gear changes, to improve shift feel.

Gearshifts are activated via cable rather than by rods, for quieter and more reliable performance – a feature introduced in the BA program.

Territory AWD variants feature a finned, alloy plate air-to-oil auxiliary transmission oil cooler, aimed at maintaining normal transmission operating temperatures under more severe conditions such as driving in sand, or towing heavy loads.

If a heavy duty towing pack is optioned on a RWD Territory, the same auxiliary cooler is specified as part of the package.

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04-20-2004, 01:27 AM
TERRITORY REDEFINES THE HANDLING EQUATION

Car-like levels of ride and handling previously considered unattainable in similar vehicles will be a hallmark of the new Ford Territory.

An all-new front suspension and a specially tailored version of the award-winning Control Blade Independent Rear Suspension will provide Territory with excellent levels of steering, traction, comfort and handling.

"This is an exceptionally exciting program that redefines handling for a vehicle like this," said Vehicle Dynamics Manager Stephan Presser.

"We have set ourselves very aggressive targets in vehicle dynamics for the Territory program and we are on track to deliver.

"Our aim is to provide drivers with a "no compromise" vehicle offering great steering feel and control, combined with excellent levels of comfort and security."

Front suspension

The all-new Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension is just one example of the depth of engineering in the Territory program.

The Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension is a key component of Territory's handling system.

Engineered using premium European and Japanese products as benchmarks, the system introduces a front suspension set-up not previously available on an Australian engineered vehicle.

"This is a highly sophisticated four-link design typically seen on imported vehicles costing many thousands more dollars," said Presser.

The Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension in Territory consists of a Short and Long Arm (SLA) with double lower balljoint, working in tandem with a forward-mounted steering rack.

"Traditionally, an SLA suspension consists of a one-piece lower-control arm with one balljoint connecting the arm and the knuckle to act as a real pivot. The new Territory axle introduces two separate links, which create a virtual pivot point at their imaginary intersection – hence the Virtual Pivot Control Link name.

"This allows us to place the lower pivot point as far outboard as necessary to achieve our vehicle dynamics targets, irrespective of the physical restrictions of brake rotors, calipers and wheels," said Presser.

Territory is the first locally engineered vehicle to employ a forward-mounted steering rack.

Employing a forward-mounted steering rack allowed for an optimal positioning of the half shafts driving the front wheels, and for dynamics engineers to achieve outstanding compliance characteristics.

The Chassis Engineering & Development team has also created an all-new solution for the front suspension stabiliser bar attachment.

"Precise and early body roll control is crucial, to achieve car-like handling on a vehicle with Territory's command seating position and consequent higher centre of gravity.

"By extending the stabiliser bar and attaching it to the knuckle with a stiff double balljoint link we achieved more efficiency from our stabiliser bar system.

"However by optimising the upper link position with respect to kingpin axis we also eliminated unwanted inputs into the steering system due to vehicle roll on undulating roads."

Presser said the Territory engineering team explored various options for the front suspension architecture, but the adoption of the Virtual Pivot Control Link set-up provided car-like suspension targets.

"It meant we could still maintain the Ford DNA of responsive handling and precise steering that we built into the BA Falcon.

"Extensive CAE modelling proved we were able to build on this strength – resulting in a no-compromise suspension set-up that gives the best of both worlds to the customer."

Handling advantages

Presser said the underlying factor behind every decision concerning Territory dynamics was to keep the vehicle true to the Ford brand promise of 'great to drive'.

"Agility, stability, precision and comfort are the key attributes of Ford DNA. The new Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension delivers on all those goals and ensures car-like driving dynamics for Territory.

“We set ourselves very high targets for our scrub radius and kingpin offset. Moving the lower pivot point allowed us to achieve those targets to ensure real benefits for drivers.

“Our scrub radius target means excellent braking stability while the kingpin offset level means an absence of torque steer and steering wheel vibrations. That all adds up to ride and handling levels not seen in SUVs.

"We have been able to avoid unwanted steering effects – or torque steer – despite a powerful drive train feeding traction through the front wheels. The Virtual Pivot Control Link suspension was critical in achieving this goal."

Presser said the turning circle was evidence of Territory's excellent low-speed handling.

"Territory has a turning circle of just 11.4 metres, meaning the vehicle is perfectly suited to tight urban environments such as shopping centre car parks."

"We were able to meet our predetermined target of the compromise between steering precision and stability – at all speeds. Territory provides the driver with a reassuring feeling of contact with the road as well as excellent steering feel."

Rear-wheel drive Territory owners will enjoy the same benefits, with the new Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension standard equipment on both variants.

"Our targets for RWD Territory from a steering and on-road handling perspective were equally high. We wanted to provide customers with exceptional levels of ride and handling.

"It was always our intention to use the new front suspension across the board. That strategy also ensures maximum efficiency from a manufacturing standpoint."

Front suspension geometry

The following data applies to Territory front suspension with the BA Falcon suspension as reference:

Front roll centre height at kerb 132 mm (BA Falcon 62 mm)
Front track width 1620 mm (1560 mm)
Spring rate 50 Newtons/millimetre (33 N/mm)
Anti-roll bar diameter 27 mm (24 mm)
Rebound travel from kerb height 93 mm (82 mm)
Wheelbase 2842 mm (2829 mm)
"It all adds up to a suspension system that provides exhilarating driving dynamics, while positively ensuring maximum traction levels and passenger comfort," said Presser.

Rear suspension

The rear suspension on Territory is a specially tailored version of the same Control Blade IRS that made its debut in the award-winning BA Falcon.

"This IRS was engineered with Territory in mind as well as BA, and provides an excellent ride and handling platform that we tested thoroughly during the BA program," said Presser.

"However, we have worked extensively on the Territory program to tune the Control Blade IRS to suit the new vehicle.

"Using sophisticated Computer Aided Engineering we were able to test many different levels of suspension tune in a virtual environment before we built our first prototype vehicle."

Presser said the different body structure, higher roll centres and higher centre of gravity in Territory meant a thorough revision of suspension settings:

Roll centre heights increased by 60 mm to correspond with the command seating position and higher centre of gravity
Rebound travel increased 20 mm for additional wheel articulation
Rear track increased 30 mm
Spring rates increased 30 per cent
Suspension bushes retuned for best balance between comfort, precision, agility and stability
“In essence the architecture is the same as in BA Falcon, with the Control Blade decoupling the ride and handling components. That means Territory provides excellent levels of control over toe and camber without sacrificing ride comfort.

"The great benefit of Control Blade IRS is that it's been designed to separate suspension functions, allowing an optimal tune for varying conditions.

“As a result, Territory's Control Blade IRS isolates harshness, while still ensuring excellent handling, superior stability and high levels of driver control."

Presser said the Control Blade IRS offered significant braking advantages.

"Drivers will immediately notice a reassuring 'anti-dive' under braking force, which means very flat body control and greatly enhanced stability."

How does it work?

The ‘Control Blade’ is the dominant feature of the IRS – a longitudinal trailing arm with a large, plush bush at one end. It provides high levels of ride comfort, while providing the freedom to let the lateral links define toe and camber under traction and cornering loads.

This feature effectively isolates the handling components of the suspension from the road noise and impact harshness components of the suspension.

The Control Blade IRS is mounted in a steel subframe, bolted directly to the underbody for increased stiffness.

The Control Blade IRS won the Silver Award at the 2002 Society of Automotive Engineers Australasia (SAE-A) Engineering Excellence Awards.

Brakes

Braking capacity on Territory has been designed to accommodate the different characteristics of the new vehicle to meet the high standards set by the BA Falcon.

This has been achieved by using bigger diameter rotors and incorporating vented rotors on the rear instead of solid discs.

Front rotors on Territory measure 322 mm x 28 mm (BA 298 x 28) and rear rotors 328 mm x 26 mm (BA 303 x 16), with twin piston calipers on the front and single piston calipers on the rear.

Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) is standard on all versions, providing optimum braking performance, maximum vehicle stability and shortest possible stopping distance in typical braking situations.

The anti-lock brake (ABS) system on Territory has been optimised using a unique gravel road logic designed by Ford and Bosch engineers specifically to cope with Australian road conditions.

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04-20-2004, 01:28 AM
Tyres

Ford chassis and development engineers worked closely with specialists from Goodyear Tyres to produce two new varieties of silica compound tyres designed specifically for Territory.

“Engineers from the Goodyear Technical Centre in Luxembourg added their experience to the expertise of our dynamics team to construct a tyre that takes full advantage of the Territory handling system," said Presser.

“Australia’s varying mix of road surfaces provided a huge engineering challenge, but the new Goodyear tyre provided the finishing touch.

“Endless hours of real world testing to back up millions of virtual kilometres confirmed that the unique tread pattern built for Territory has the perfect mix of wet and dry traction, fuel economy, refinement and comfort."

The AWD Territory will boast a new Goodyear Fortera 235/60 R17 tyre.

The RWD Territory will be shod with a new Goodyear Integrity 235/60 R17 tyre engineered specifically for the RWD application.

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04-20-2004, 01:29 AM
TOTAL CONTROL FOR AWD TERRITORY

In another outstanding industry first, Ford's AWD Territory will boast the first stability control system available on an Australian-built vehicle.

Ford Australia Product Development Vice President Trevor Worthington said customers would benefit enormously from the thousands of hours' work Ford engineers had devoted to the program, working hand-in-hand with experts from Bosch Automotive's Chassis Systems division.

Working in tandem with Ford's all-new front suspension, Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) adds an extra dimension to the Territory handling system.

Promising new levels of ride and handling for an Australian-engineered vehicle, the Territory Acutrac handling system consists of the all-new Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension and a specially retuned version of the award-winning Control Blade IRS, and will be standard on the RWD model.

AWD versions of Territory will feature Acutrac plus, which includes DSC as a standard feature.

"Ford has continually been at the forefront of implementing the latest safety features in its vehicles and the inclusion of DSC on the AWD Territory takes driver and passenger protection to new levels for a locally engineered car.

"Passive safety features such as excellent body rigidity, airbags and collapsible pedals come into play when an accident has already happened.

"DSC is an active safety feature that can help avoid accidents before they even occur," Worthington said.

Ford Vehicle Dynamics Manager Stephan Presser said the inclusion of DSC on the AWD version of Territory was particularly appropriate.

"Customers wanting to head off the beaten track are more likely to opt for the AWD version of Territory and will have a greater chance of encountering the slippery conditions that DSC is designed to counter.

"The RWD version is designed for those customers wanting the advantages of Territory such as command driving position and interior flexibility, but who are likely to limit their driving to typical urban conditions," Presser said.

How does it work?

"DSC combines the advantages of Ford's Anti-Lock Braking (ABS) and Traction Control System (TCS) and multiplies the benefits of both," said Presser.

"The best protection against accidents is to avoid them completely and DSC utilises the latest technology from Bosch to provide Territory with Australia's first locally engineered vehicle stability control system."

Presser said DSC was designed to maintain stability when the vehicle approaches its physical limits, through programmed intervention in the braking system and powertrain or a combination of both.

"It works in tandem with ABS – which prevents the wheels from locking when the brakes are applied and TCS – which limits wheelspin during acceleration.

"Traction control ensures the vehicle remains controllable under heavy acceleration that typically occurs when taking off on slippery roads, negotiating a hill or accelerating out of a corner.

"Traction control brakes the driven wheel, which shows a tendency to spin, and adapts the engine torque to obtain maximum traction."

Presser said sensors located at each wheel calculate the slip of each driven wheel and initiate traction control if slip levels are deemed excessive. Consequently, traction control intervenes on all four wheels of the AWD Territory.

The system also continually monitors driver input via a sensor on the Electronic Throttle Control.

"As soon as the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) detects a deviation from desired wheel speeds, the speed of the spinning wheel is automatically reduced by brake intervention, without any action on the part of the driver.

"Simultaneously, the ECU intervenes via an electronic throttle valve actuator to reduce excess engine torque."

Presser described DSC as the next generation in driving aids, employing Territory's braking system as a tool for 'controlling' the vehicle.

"When DSC assumes operation it makes use of the existing braking system. The basic function of the brakes – to decelerate or stop the vehicle – is enhanced as stability control helps maintain Territory's stability and desired course."

Presser said DSC incorporated three vital elements in addition to the traction control system hardware – a steering wheel angle sensor, a lateral acceleration sensor and a rotational yaw rate sensor.

The steering wheel sensor constantly monitors steering wheel angle, or the driver's intended direction of travel.

The yaw and lateral acceleration sensors track Territory's rotation around its vertical axis as well as its lateral motion.

"DSC is constantly working in the background, monitoring all its sensors 50 times a second, to check the driver's steering wheel position, throttle pedal position, whether the driver is braking or not, and where the vehicle is actually going.

"By comparing the actual measured yaw rate with a calculated optimal yaw rate, the system is able to intervene early enough to reduce the risk of unwanted skids and potential loss of control.

"Specific braking intervention is then directed at individual wheels – such as the inner rear to counter understeer, or the outer front during oversteer. DSC also modulates engine outputs to reduce wheel spin and vehicle speed when necessary. "

Ford engineers have worked closely with the Bosch team to ensure DSC complements Territory's car-like ride and handling characteristics.

Testing has been conducted on the ice-covered lakes of Sweden, on the harsh, rough gravel roads of the Australian outback, and also in a variety of real world driving tests in Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and Spain.

Presser stressed DSC could not defy the laws of physics.

"DSC significantly enhances the safety window in which the driver can operate the car, but it cannot perform miracles.

"It is an incredibly useful and practical driving aid that has enormous potential to reduce the possibility of a crash."

Presser said the software came into operation during situations that could occur in everyday driving, often without the driver noticing it had happened.

"For example, if the driver approaches a bend that tightens more sharply than expected, the driver will suddenly turn the wheel in the intended direction of turn, but may be carrying too much speed to safely negotiate the turn.

"If a driver swerves rapidly to avoid colliding with an object or another vehicle on the road, the vehicle may not respond quickly enough to follow the desired path, or may over-respond, resulting in oversteer.

"In both examples DSC will immediately notice the angle of steering wheel input and the direction of travel and brake the appropriate wheel to keep Territory stable and under control.

"It represents a genuine application of active safety that has the potential to significantly improve road safety," Presser said.

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04-20-2004, 01:30 AM
CONTROL AT THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON

Ford AWD Territory owners will have the option of including the added safety feature of a Hill Descent Control system on their vehicle.

In essence, the system regulates the speed at which Territory travels downhill, particularly in steep, or difficult, off-road conditions.

The system – available only on the all-wheel drive version of Territory – is engaged by the driver via a dash-mounted switch.

Once engaged, the system automatically applies the brakes if a hill is detected, controlling the vehicle's descent speed.

The anti-lock braking system (ABS) automatically operates if changes in surface occur and the wheel sensors detect different wheel speeds.

Ford Vehicle Dynamics Manager Stephan Presser said the system provided greater levels of confidence and an extra level of control for the driver.

"Once the system is engaged, the driver doesn't need to use any of the pedals.

"The system takes charge, and individually brakes each wheel to maintain a steady 4 km/h descent. The driver only has to steer the car."

Presser said the speed of the descent could be increased using the steering wheel-mounted cruise control buttons.

"The default speed is 4 km/h, but the driver can set a preferred speed simply by using the cruise control buttons in steps of 1 km/h, up to a maximum speed of 25 km/h.

"The speed selected by the driver remains the set speed until the system is switched off or until the brakes are applied."

Presser said the cruise control speed set function was unique in the Ford world.

"If the driver presses the accelerator, the system will shift into 'stand-by' mode and the vehicle will pick up speed.

"When the driver takes his foot off the accelerator, the system is engaged again and the brakes will be applied to slow the vehicle back to the previous target speed."

Presser said the system would switch into stand-by mode when the driver accelerates above 35 km/h.

The Hill Descent Control system automatically switches off when vehicle speed passes 90 km/h.

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04-20-2004, 01:31 AM
THE QUIET TERRITORY

It may take Territory customers a few hours' driving before they appreciate the thousands of hours' work that has gone into producing one of Ford Australia's most refined vehicles.

"Ours is a science of addressing the magnitude, quality and balance of the complete set of acoustic and tactile sensations experienced by the customer," said Vehicle Refinement Supervisor Clive Humphris.

"Territory gave us the opportunity to improve on the very high standards we set in the BA program. It also provided the challenge of coping with new sheet metal and interior and exterior designs.

"We've taken giant steps in recent years with greater use of Computer Aided Engineering (CAE) to virtually plot energy flow and noise paths, and then to correlate that against real world test data.

"This process has allowed us to optimise designs for minium noise and vibration much quicker than with previous models."

Humphris said his team worked on seven specific areas for refining Territory.

Road noise

"Specially tuned tyres were developed for Territory with the aim of optimising steering and handling.

"In addition, the Goodyear Integrity (RWD) and Fortera (AWD) tyres on Territory were also designed with the aim of keeping road noise to a minimum.

"Working in tandem with the Control Blade IRS and Virtual Pivot Control Link front suspension, Territory has very low road noise levels."

Powertrain noise

Humphris said his team were delighted with the choice of the Barra 182 as the powerplant for Territory.

"As we found with the Barra program, the DOHC I6 is a key element in improving powertrain noise, vibration and harshness (NVH).

"The Barra 182 has a sweet note that doesn't deteriorate with increased revs.

"It gives us an engine that means occupants feel very comfortable travelling at highway cruising speeds."

Humphris said the basic architecture of the engine was the same as in BA, but the Territory featured optimisation for every mounting, bracket and cover.

The development team also invested many hours in minimising noise through the exhaust and inlet system design.

Wind noise

"We spent a lot of time benchmarking premium AWD vehicles from Europe and Japan for wind noise, setting levels we wanted to better with Territory, or at least to equal.

"Using CAE we employed 'digital buck' technology to review numerous design and assembly issues before prototype parts were even constructed.

"This attention to detail highlighted some potential wind noise issues very early in the development stage, leaving us ample time to find a suitable remedy."

Humphris said the all-new door design in Territory proved a blessing in disguise.

"The 'clean sheet' approach gave us not only a challenge, but also the opportunity to engineer a door design for extremely low wind noise levels.

"The door structure in Territory has been extensively tested in CAE and then in the wind tunnel for maximum stiffness, improving NVH performance even in strong, gusty crosswinds.

"The 'inset' door design we chose for Territory has resulted in an extremely stiff door, ensuring noise is kept out – even at high speeds where the doors can come away from the seal.

"We also employed improved door seals, minimising the number of different corner moulds and extrusions."

Humphris said body sealing was a key design input throughout the design stage of Territory.

"New high-technology paint shop measurement systems will ensure all vehicles have a high level of body sealing.

"This gives lower interior noise levels, adds to the quality feel of Territory and has the added benefit of minimising dust and water entering the vehicle even in Australia's harshest environments.

"We also worked closely with the styling studio on the exterior mirrors to produce a good-looking mirror that directs wind noise away from the door glass."

Shake

Territory's all-new body shell proved significant in achieving high refinement levels.

Forty per cent stiffer than a BA Falcon wagon, it has resulted in low shake levels in high feedback areas, such as the steering column and seats.

"The steering column stiffness has been significantly increased to cope with the powertrain vibrations inherent in an all-wheel drive system and the seats have been tuned for low shake response on all road surfaces.

"The end result is much less vibration fed back to the driver and passengers."

Driveline

Humphris said the two-piece driveshaft employed in BA would be used in Territory.

"It isolates excess powertrain noise which would otherwise be transferred into the cabin.

"In addition, we have designed all the suspension mounting points to be as stiff as possible, to ensure any compliance would occur at the suspension bushes and not in the body structure.

"This reduces vibration levels throughout the body, minimising the chance of even minor vibrations being transferred to the vehicle occupants."

Squeak and rattle

Extensive use of CAE technology allowed refinement engineers to identify potential sources for rattles in Territory long before the construction of prototype parts, resulting in several significant changes.

"We have increased dash stiffness to eliminate excess movement in the instrument panel, and ensured all wiring looms and cables were properly clipped to body structures.

"We also investigated sheetmetal joins and areas where plastic parts join to eliminate further potential vibration and squeak issues."

Sound package

Static sealing has been improved with Territory employing foam blockers to stop any potential noise transmission from the body.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:33 AM
TERRITORY LIFTS CURTAIN ON NEW ERA OF SAFETY

Ford's exciting new Territory will be one of the safest vehicles on Australian roads when it goes on sale in June.

Territory boasts an exceptionally strong passenger safety cell and will be the first locally manufactured vehicle available with a head-protecting side curtain airbag.

The side curtain airbag will be standard on Territory Ghia and TS variants and available as an option on Territory TX.

"The inflatable side curtain airbag on Territory adds a new dimension of safety in an Australian built vehicle," said Ford Australia Environmental and Safety Engineering Manager Bruce Priddle.

"It works in concert with other side impact protection features such as the vehicle body structure and door intrusion beams, to provide new levels of interior safety.

"The curtain provides head protection for both front and second row occupants in side impact crashes, helping to greatly reduce the risk of potentially serious head injuries.

"The curtain retains the occupant's head inside the vehicle, reducing the risk of injury from impact with objects outside such as power poles, trees or even the front of a high-riding vehicle."

Priddle said extensive research into car accidents revealed the benefits of head protection offered by an inflatable side curtain airbag.

"Australian studies show that 35 per cent of all crashes involve a side impact. The employment of a side curtain airbag results in a 45 per cent reduction in the probability of a fatality.

"In a US study, the number of deaths from side impacts in cars without a head-protecting side airbag was more than double those where a side curtain airbag was fitted. The study also found that a side airbag results in a 45 per cent reduction in the probability of a fatality."

The inflatable side curtain airbag on Territory runs from the A-pillar to the C-pillar and, when deployed, drops down to the belt line of the vehicle to help protect the occupant's head.

Packaged behind the head liner, it flips the lining inboard and deflects past the B and C-pillars, while a retaining clip in the A-pillar holds it in place.

The trim on the A-pillar was specially designed to cater for the retaining clip with high strength plastics.

The airbag itself is similar to the airbag found in the steering wheel, but is a multi-chamber design as it covers a far greater area.

The side curtain airbag is linked to four sensors – one in each B and C-pillar – which are controlled by the Advanced Restraints Module.

When the sensor detects a change in lateral, or sideways, acceleration of sufficient magnitude, it deploys the side airbag to fully inflate in just 24 milliseconds.

The driver's airbag mounted in the steering wheel takes 40 milliseconds to deploy.

"This rapid deployment of the side curtain airbag is necessary because of the limited space between the occupants and the side of the car," Priddle said.

The sensors are finely tuned so the side curtain airbag will only deploy when necessary. It will not deploy if, for example, a stray shopping trolley hits Territory in a car park.

Development on the side curtain airbag began almost five years ago.

"It was always designed to be an integral part of the Territory program."

Priddle said the inflatable side curtain airbag added another feature to the award winning Intelligent Safety System (ISS) in Territory, which made its debut in the BA program.

"The ISS tailors airbag deployment according to the type and severity of the crash. It is a fully integrated, computer-driven system that 'thinks' about, and responds to, different accident conditions.

"ISS features integrated seat belt buckle pretensioners, energy management retractors, seat belt usage sensors, a driver's seat position sensor, dual stage inflating airbags and a special crash severity sensor."

Priddle said the sensors were constantly feeding data to the vehicle's Advanced Restraints Module (ARM) – the 'brain' of the system.

"The module takes into account the seating position of the driver, whether the front driver and passenger seat belts are being used and the severity of the accident before deploying appropriate safety technologies during frontal collisions."

The ARM controls the variable front airbag inflator output and pyrotechnic seat belt pretensioners according to the severity of a frontal crash.

It also controls the deployment of the inflatable side curtain airbags and tells the Body Electronics Module (BEM) to unlock the doors in the event of a crash.

"In essence, the system determines the severity of the crash and deploys the airbags accordingly.

"For example, the driver seat sensors 'know' how close the driver is sitting to the wheel, and vary the inflation rate of the driver's airbag accordingly.

"It all adds up to optimum levels of protection for all the occupants inside Territory."

"Territory also features the acclaimed beltminder system, which provides an intermittent visible and audible warning if the driver's seat belt is not fastened with the vehicle in motion."

All seatbelts in Territory are three-point lap-sash, for enhanced safety in the front, second or optional third row of seats.

Structural safety was paramount in the minds of engineers when it came to designing and building Territory.

"A strong passenger safety cell is fundamental to structural safety, but the key element is management of energy load paths at the front, side and rear of the vehicle.

"Territory's structure has been engineered to protect the passenger compartment by spreading energy during a crash, directing it through complementary parallel paths in the body."

Priddle said Territory was the first Australian vehicle to utilise locally manufactured tailor welded blank technology.

"This technology laser welds different gauges of sheet metal together prior to the stamping operation, efficiently customising the structure to maintain the safety cell.

"This distributes the load and helps preserve the integrity of the passenger safety cell in a collision," Priddle said.

Territory also includes anti-intrusion pedals that decouple the brake pedal from the brake booster shaft in a frontal crash.

"Drivers often hit the brakes hard in a crash, stiffening their leg while pushing on the pedal. In a severe crash, the pedal can be forced backward, resulting in potentially serious leg injuries.

"The anti-intrusion pedal system allows the other safety features in Territory to provide protection unimpeded by a deformed brake pedal."

Priddle said one of those features was the Laminated Impact Protection Panel (LIPP).

This laminate of steel and energy absorbing foam is located under the carpet in the driver's footwell, providing improved lower leg protection.

"Territory features excellent active safety features such as stability control on AWD models, traction control and ABS to help the driver avoid an accident.

"However, in the event Territory is involved in a crash, the superb passive safety features have been engineered to produce one of the safest vehicles on our roads."

Priddle said Territory was designed to meet the highest safety standards.

"Unlike many imported 4WD vehicles, Territory RWD and AWD variants comply with the same stringent passenger car safety standards that Falcon does, and employs a further development of the Falcon ISS that was awarded a gold medal at the 2003 SAE Australasian Engineering Excellence Awards

"Territory fully meets Australian Design Regulations 69, 72 and 73 which involve a full frontal crash test, side impact crash test and offset impact crash test.

"With its combination of excellent safety structure, collapsible pedals, optional side curtain airbag and the latest active safety features such as Dynamic Stability Control on AWD models, Territory is one of the safest vehicles we have ever put to market," Priddle said.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 01:34 AM
TERRITORY PRICING

Territory TX RWD $38,990
Territory TX AWD $42,990
Territory TS RWD $44,790
Territory TS AWD $48,790
Territory Ghia RWD $49,290
Territory Ghia AWD $53,290


SPECIFICATIONS
PERFORMANCE RWD AWD
Engine 4.0-litre DOHC VCT in-line six 4.0-litre DOHC VCT in-line six
Capacity 3984 cc 3984 cc
Bore x stroke 92.26 mm x 99.31 mm 92.26 mm x 99.31 mm
Compression ratio 9.7:1 9.7:1
Power 182 kW @ 5000 rpm 182 kW @ 5000 rpm
Torque 380 Nm @ 3250 rpm 380 Nm @ 3250 rpm
Valvegear Roller finger follower Roller finger follower
Fuel consumption ADR 81/01 13.1 litres/100 km 13.5 litres/100 km
TRANSMISSION
Description Four speed automatic with SSS
Ratios 1st 2.50 1st 2.50
2nd 1.49 2nd 1.49
3rd 1.00 3rd 1.00
4th 0.675 4th 0.675
Rev 2.073 Rev 2.073
Final 3.73:1 Final 4.10:1
SUSPENSION
Front Virtual Pivot Control Link with forward mounted steering rack
Rear Control Blade IRS
Turning circle 11.4 metres 11.4 metres
Turns lock to lock 3 3
BRAKES
Rotor size – front 322 mm x 28 mm vented disc
Rotor size - rear 322 mm x 26 mm vented disc
ABS Standard Standard
Traction Control System Standard -
Dynamic Stability Control - Standard
Hill Descent Control N/A Optional
Tyres Goodyear Integrity P235/60 R17 Goodyear Fortera P235/60 R17
DIMENSIONS
Kerb weight
TX 5-seat 2005 kg 2085 kg
Ghia 5-seat 2020 kg 2100 kg
Length 4856 mm 4856 mm
Front overhang 926 mm 926 mm
Rear overhang 1088 mm 1088 mm
Wheelbase 2842 mm 2842 mm
Height 1676 mm 1676 mm
Width 1898 mm 1898 mm
Front track 1626 mm 1626 mm
Rear track 1597 mm 1597 mm
Approach angle 23 degrees 23 degrees
Departure angle 20 degrees 20 degrees
Ramp over angle 16 degrees 16 degrees
Ground clearance 178 mm 178 mm
Front legroom 1122 mm 1122 mm
Front headroom 1074 mm 1074 mm
2nd row legroom (5-seat) 1041 mm 1041 mm
2nd row headroom (5-seat) 1006 mm 1006 mm
Luggage volume (behind 2nd row) 523 litres 523 litres
Cargo area length (behind 2nd row) 1113 mm 1113 mm

motorsportnerd
04-20-2004, 01:42 AM
The proof of pudding will be in how well it drives and how well it sells. We'll have to see what the press say about it and how fast it shifts from the showroom floors. It may be an early candidate for Wheels Car of the Year though.

Matra et Alpine
04-20-2004, 02:22 AM
SH!T fpv, are you on commission or what !!! :)

Too many words, gave up after the third and that one was only skimmed :)

Is the idea to put us to sleep and then send subliminal messages rthough the computer to make me buy this ???

Where's the pictures ????

Matra et Alpine
04-20-2004, 02:24 AM
The proof of pudding will be in how well it drives and how well it sells. We'll have to see what the press say about it and how fast it shifts from the showroom floors. It may be an early candidate for Wheels Car of the Year though.
Not sure about car of the year but it certainly is nuber one candicate for Biggest Cross-Post of the Year.... and the award goes to fpv ,,, hurraaaaaaaah :) :) :)

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 02:25 AM
SH!T fpv, are you on commission or what !!! :)

Too many words, gave up after the third and that one was only skimmed :)

Is the idea to put us to sleep and then send subliminal messages rthough the computer to make me buy this ???

Where's the pictures ????


lol, the whole lot was over 90,000 characters long and after realising the hard way the limit for one post was 10,000 characters, i just put it all on MS Word and cut it all up into the sections. that way i guess its easier to avoid sections you dont want to know about, like the colours, safety equipment etc.

mi gunna try and round up a few more pics than what ive already got then i'll edit them all in

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 02:32 AM
Not sure about car of the year but it certainly is nuber one candicate for Biggest Cross-Post of the Year.... and the award goes to fpv ,,, hurraaaaaaaah :) :) :)


The Territory's biggest competitor is the Toyota Klugar/Highlander, but the Subaru Outback and Holden Adventra are in the same crossover category. Last years Wheels COTY award, the Klugar was still there at the last round which was only 4 cars, and the pre production test drives of the Territory have suggested its a better car. With the local introduction of the Fiesta in April, Ford will have 2 top quality contenders for the award this year, the same award the BA Falcon won in 2002.

Its good to see more global interest in the Australian cars section though.....

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 02:53 AM
here are some of the pics that accompanied the article

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 03:00 AM
the first of these were on the article as well, but i had the rest beforehand

Matra et Alpine
04-20-2004, 08:12 AM
here are some of the pics that accompanied the article
That looks not too bad.

Better than the Explorer :)

Maybe if the Monaro sells well we'll see more Aussie imports - just before you become a republic and higher import taxes stop it !!!

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 08:21 AM
well the new Ford Australia president Tom Gorman (the former president here, Geoff Polites just got promoted to vice president of sales in europe, probably because of how he turned Ford's fortunes around here with the BA and introducing the Focus and Fiesta) said that Ford Australia doesnt need exports to survive, but if he had any hopes of competing with holden he'd be shipping Falcon's out to every country that Holden sends commodores. success out of the monaro in the UK though could trigger ford to rethink their position on exports hopefully. unfortunately, since the war on terror started, i think the australian public is wanting less to do with the Commonwealth, but then again, they probably just dispise the government as usual as well so it could just all blow over

GT500
04-20-2004, 03:42 PM
Wow, it looks....quite nice! :)
i bet they'll sell like hotcakes *reserves one* ;)

crisis
04-20-2004, 06:12 PM
Hows your new job at Ford going anyhow?
I have no doubt this will bve a fine car. The rear whell drive version makes lots of sense. Interestingly he did not make such a strong case for the AWD version as we all know their is not much justification for these type of vehicles other than to ensure you have one in you stable of products too. Several statements in the press release require some reply (by me anyway).

"The idea for Territory began – as all great cars do – by recognising a customer need," said Vehicle Director Russell Christophers
As I said, the idea came from ensuring Ford has an AWD. To their credit they saw that the AWD aspect is really a distraction and sensibly added a RWD version to the mix.
"SUV owners loved the command driving position and the interior versatility, but wished their vehicle could handle more like a car than a truck – particularly in city driving. Most freely admitted to never exploiting the off-road capability of those vehicle's 4WD systems and said they weren't happy with the upfront and ongoing costs.
SUV owners who take theri cars off road understand that you cant be everything to everybody. Therefore they accept the on road limitations and enjoy the off road experience to the full.
Those who freely admit to never going off road should have bought a sedan or a people mover.
As for upfront costs, up until now, all 4x4s were imports and as such rather keenly priced in comparisom to similarly specced sedan cousins due to the disparity in the import duties on them. Ongoing costs on a 4x4 SUV will be no different to a true off road 4x4 if both are used the same.
Just had to get that off my chest. I admit I nodded off half way through. Congrats on the sites longest post.

fpv_gtho
04-20-2004, 08:01 PM
Hows your new job at Ford going anyhow?


what did i miss?? :confused:


well theyre all valid points you've brought up, until now also different taxes have made importers think twice about importing RWD equivalents of American cars like the Explorer and Cherokee and i think you can even get a RWD Landcruiser in the states, so people looking for an image car to seat enough people had to pay extra for 4x4

crisis
04-21-2004, 12:39 AM
what did i miss?? :confused:
One of my typically lame attempts at humour. I meant you did a good PR job.
Looking at the pics, it does seem to look a little too people moverish. Hopefully it will look better in the flesh.

fpv_gtho
04-21-2004, 03:02 AM
well its not entirely your fault it backfired, at school im reknowned for killing jokes by either trying to explain them excessively, or when theyre pulled on me ask them to be explained........

well most people who have seen the Territory claim it looks better in the flesh. i'd say it looks liek you said it did with the combination of low ride height and tall body. maybe more than those who want to take them a bit further than others will be optioning the extra ride height package to get around this visual problem

fpv_gtho
04-22-2004, 04:19 AM
Ford pushes into new Territory
By Toby Hagon
The Age
Thursday April 22 2004

At its New Zealand launch, Toby Hagon explores a key component of Ford's Australian future -- and finds the much-heralded 2WD/AWD is competent but relatively heavy and thirsty.

Meet Ford's two-tonne family car, which is not a four-wheel-drive. The Ford Territory looks acceptably stylish and deceptively compact, as far as 4WDs go, and the Falcon-based wagon packs a weighty punch, making it the biggest thing to come out of the company's Broadmeadows assembly line -- in more than one way.

Every Territory model weighs more than two tonnes (some nearly 2.2 tonnes), heavier than standard family cars by hundreds of kilograms. Even so, it is shorter than a Falcon.

Ford insists it's on to a winner and predicts the Territory will outsell the likes of Toyota's LandCruiser and Honda's CR-V by two to one.

Just like its main rival, the Toyota Kluger, the Ford Territory is aimed at finding middle ground between a wagon, people mover and 4WD, in one family-friendly package. But Ford insists the Territory is not a 4WD but an all-wheel-drive (AWD), the subtle difference indicating its light-duty off-road capabilities.


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The Territory is the first off-roader to be offered as a two-wheel-drive model, in an effort to broaden its appeal and give buyers that all-important off-road image -- complete with an upright seating position -- but without the added cost and weight of 4WD equipment.

That's turned into the $4000 question -- the price of the AWD system -- which Ford is predicting 60 percent of buyers will choose.

Speaking of money, the Territory AWD uses a claimed 13.5 L/100km of fuel, which is more than some V8s. Even as a 2WD its fuel consumption is above that of most passenger cars, at a claimed 13.1 L/100km, according to government figures.

Fuel costs aside, value is a big part of the Territory sales pitch. The entry-level TX -- as a 2WD -- sells for $38,990, including air-conditioning, power windows, remote locking, dual airbags and anti-lock brakes. Ford sees it as a viable alternative to existing wagons such as the Commodore and Falcon. Notable omissions include cruise control and side airbags, the latter being an $800 option.

The top-of-the-range Ghia sells from $49,290 and comes with such extras as alloy wheels, leather trim, foglights, cruise control, side airbags and reverse parking sensors.

Arriving in September is a mid-spec TS model, priced from $44,790, which includes things such as cruise control and side airbags.

Ford claims the Territory is a car designed in Australia, by Australians, for Australians. That the media launch was held in New Zealand appears illogical, although the company claims the diversity of roads and availability of snow was a determining factor.

The Territory was tested mostly in Australia and is part of a $500 million investment. It is "one of the most important new models" in the company's history, according to recently appointed president Tom Gorman. Witness the dozen media launches outlining everything from cupholders to the specifically designed tyres over the past two years.

To say Ford Australia is desperate to see the Territory a success is an understatement. From its June 1 on-sale date, Ford wants to sell more than 2000 Territorys a month, making it the best-selling off-roader.

Inside is a very Falcon theme, the dash a lightly redesigned version of the Falcon's, and the main controls very much part of the Ford family. The front seats offer a more spacious feel and superior driving position to that of a Falcon, and even in the middle row there's generous leg and headroom.

The Territory is a solid driving proposition. It's relatively quiet -- other than some back-seat roar generated from the tyres -- and the refinement is akin to that of a Falcon. The tall driving position, too, is appreciated and it doesn't have that enclosed feeling of a Falcon.

By 4WD standards the Territory is manoeuvrable in city streets. It sounds thoroughly Falcon but has a user-friendliness few off-roaders can match. Its car-derived set-up provides cornering assurance and the sort of comfort families will appreciate.

The Falcon's 4.0-litre engine makes good use of its 182kW of power, accelerating the Territory with ease, and the four-speed automatic provides respectably smooth changes. But the Territory has a serious thirst for fuel, sometimes slurping around 20 litres per 100 kilometres on our brief drive, but often as low as 15 L/100km. It's also prone to disconcerting clunks through the suspension.

Still, as a family truck it appears to have the appropriate credentials. The optional third row of seats (priced at $1500) provides flexibility between kid-carrying duties and load lugging. It's also well decked out with storage binnacles, with everything from cupholders to good-sized door pockets and sizeable covered bins.

Off-road, too, there's little doubt the Territory will perform the duties most expect of it, at least in 4WD guise. Despite a relatively low ground clearance of 178mm, it'll clear decent-sized obstacles, and the traction control system works to divert drive to the wheels that need it most.

But even Ford admits that the Territory will give up a long way before more respected off-roaders, such as Toyota's LandCruiser.


Territory tidbits
. The Territory uses a 4WD system almost identical to that used on the Holden Adventra and some BMWs, although Ford claims its system is superior because it uses a quieter-operating chain drive instead of the gear drive employed in the Holden.

. The Territory's ground clearance is lower than that of most off-roaders, at just 178mm. Even Ford's jacked-up two-wheel-drive Falcon RTV ute sits 215mm off the ground, and Holden's Adventra rides at 200mm. The company says it may soon offer a high-rise suspension kit.

. Ford revised its sales forecasts down on the Territory from an initial high of 30,000 a year to "as many as 25,000" a year. At those figures, though, the new off-roader will still outsell the best-selling 4WD of 2003, Toyota's Prado, by almost two-to-one.

. The Territory's rear luggage shelf was subjected to the ultimate design criterion -- it had to hold a slab of beer over bumpy roads. No word on whether they were cans or stubbies.

. The lightest Territory is still a hefty 2005kg, and that's only for the base rear-drive model. Considering there's an extra 80kg on 4WD models, it's a substantial vehicle.

. Safety is still an option on some Territorys, with side curtain airbags costing an extra $800 on base model cars. The electronic stability system, the first in an Australian-built car, helps control slides but only comes on 4WD models.

. The Territory has not been designed to take the Falcon's V8 engine. Instead, performance variants will use a turbocharged version of the in-line six-cylinder engine.

. Following the disaster that was the AU, the Territory was researched extensively to ensure it met customers' needs. It's designed to carry mountain bikes with minimal fuss, and the storage bin in the middle seats is dishwasher-safe to allow for easy cleaning.

. The Territory is roomier than the Falcon but 61mm shorter.

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 04:56 AM
The Territory's rear luggage shelf was subjected to the ultimate design criterion -- it had to hold a slab of beer over bumpy roads. No word on whether they were cans or stubbies.
Typical Aussie stereotype :)

LOVE IT.
Don't you just want to get the job doing that stress test.
Each day having to draw a new slab from stores coz the last one got 'damaged'
:)

fpv_gtho
04-22-2004, 05:02 AM
or if they mysteriously "dissapeared" :rolleyes:

half the country would be dying to get a job like that, provided it was VB, not Fosters being used. as much as fosters is linked to Australian society, i cant name anyone i know who actually likes the stuff. everyone seems to go for VB (maybe its about time for the melbourne gran prix to find a new sponsor then)

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 05:21 AM
or if they mysteriously "dissapeared" :rolleyes:

half the country would be dying to get a job like that, provided it was VB, not Fosters being used. as much as fosters is linked to Australian society, i cant name anyone i know who actually likes the stuff. everyone seems to go for VB (maybe its about time for the melbourne gran prix to find a new sponsor then)
Castlemaine's probably got the bigger image in the UK.
Mainly down to the ads for XXXX, which took the piss out of the stereotype of the Aussie male :)
Don't like Fosters, but there again I'm a Scottish Real Ale ( 2 great breweries on my doorstep ) and the occasional Guinness :)

fpv_gtho
04-22-2004, 05:28 AM
well XXXX i think is predominately loved by Queenslanders....i dont know of anyone in Victoria or New South Wales claiming to be a regular drinker of it. One of my dad's friends had a small keg of some German beer and he had a few words to say about it. I think he said it was a fair bit sweeter or something compared to Australian beer's so he wasn't exactly sucking the keg dry, but it was about 5L between 3 males.

Im not familiar with an UK beer's or anythign like Guinnes........all i know about Guinness is apparently it tastes better when its flat or something, and ive heard the British like their beer warm

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 05:55 AM
Im not familiar with an UK beer's or anythign like Guinnes........all i know about Guinness is apparently it tastes better when its flat or something, and ive heard the British like their beer warm
:) the stereotype :)
It's true that UK beers are NOT drunk chilled as much as US beers or lagers.
But it's NOT warm :)
Guuiness ( it's Irish ) is a very heavy drik and needs to be left to settle till it seperates into the black and the white. Very smooth - but best in Dublin :)
mouth-watering ...
must ..... get ......... beer ..............
cya :)

Falcon500
04-22-2004, 06:00 AM
There an old joke why the poms drink warm beer...lucas also made fridges....matra should get it :)
XXXX is swamp water...i buy it because myold man doesnt have the bad taste to drink it...and thats only when i dont want to share...rare occasions indeed...VB is a good drop,MB is basically the same.....what is commonaly refferd to as our best beer is crown larger...good beer buton the cons you need a bottle opener to get a drink...and their damned expensive...and then theirs tooheys good beers also all have good slightly diffrent flavors but tend to cost more then VB which is a benchmark for price here.....
Now for a contraversial subject....light beer the best light beer imo is cascade it seems to have more taste fosters light ice is ok (mainly because its my fathers light and its free most of the time) the rest is pure shit and id rather XXXX...ive tried that bud light stuff its crap...reminds me of the old joke what does american beer and makeing love in a boat have in common? their both F*cking close to water.....

fpv_gtho
04-22-2004, 06:16 AM
well James Boag, Hahn Premium, Crown Lager, Cascade etc. are all premium brews that you dont really take a slab over to a mates place and try and knock them all off on a saturday night. Thats what makes VB so popular i guess. whilst the premium lagers are almost $50 a slab, you can pick up a slab of VB for $30 and i suppose you dont really mind paying less for less of a taste

Falcon500
04-22-2004, 06:35 AM
Well at a friend 18th she loaded my bag with no less then 9 cascades i have devloped a taste for then and tho my preferd light(it also envoked a drunken hug)
As for the taste their isnt much in it...and beers get me under the table quicker them my scotch does anyways...also a beter idea to drink beer at the pub damn $5 for a single hwere its about $3 something for a beer (despite it being more profitable i still drink the scotch and a pay a .50 premium for the red label they have under the counter) i only really drink beer when its free or its what i have...other then that its scotch all the way....usally igo for what evers on special if im buying beer...empier is what one of my friends has a taste for nice tasteing beer but ahs a premuim price tag too....

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 07:42 AM
There an old joke why the poms drink warm beer...lucas also made fridges....matra should get it :)
It's even worse for me. All my cars have FRENCH electrics.
Telling you Ducellier makes Lucas look like NASA :(

XXXX is swamp water...i buy it because myold man doesnt have the bad taste to drink it...and thats only when i dont want to share...rare occasions indeed...VB is a good drop,MB is basically the same.....what is commonaly refferd to as our best beer is crown larger...good beer buton the cons you need a bottle opener to get a drink...and their damned expensive...and then theirs tooheys good beers also all have good slightly diffrent flavors but tend to cost more then VB which is a benchmark for price here.....
That's given me a nice list of beers to source and taste.
Thanks :)

Now for a contraversial subject....light beer the best light beer imo is cascade it seems to have more taste fosters light ice is ok (mainly because its my fathers light and its free most of the time) the rest is pure shit and id rather XXXX...ive tried that bud light stuff its crap...reminds me of the old joke what does american beer and makeing love in a boat have in common? their both F*cking close to water.....
Hate light beer.
Only marginally less than low-alcohol beer.
Uk had one called Kaliber which tasted acceptable when it was first poured and VERY cold. After 5 minutes it warmed up and tasted of piss !! Even using Billy Connelly to advertise it on TV never saved it :)
WHich brings ME full circle in that I don't like lager's, American beers and XXXX when it's anything other than very cold. As I like to sit by a warm open fire with a beer in my hand, they quickly go 'bad' :) OR I drink them so quick I become rat-arsed :) :) :)

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 07:44 AM
...(despite it being more profitable i still drink the scotch and a pay a .50 premium for the red label they have under the counter)
Man, you need to change bars if that's the 'good' whisky :)
Next time you're in ask the barman for the real whisky which the owner no doubt keeps in the back office :) :) :)

crisis
04-22-2004, 05:36 PM
I couldnt resist the beer conversation, so close to my heart n'all. I concur that Cascade Premium lite is not only the best , but the only lite beer that is drinkable. In fact I like the taste so much it is what I drink most of the time. The bestest of the best is Coopers Pale Ale or Real Ale if you want a headache.
Matra, enough about Whisky ok! We colonials get you cast offs and have to pay good money for it, just to subsidise your drinking habits.

Matra et Alpine
04-22-2004, 05:51 PM
....Matra, enough about Whisky ok! We colonials get you cast offs and have to pay good money for it, just to subsidise your drinking habits.
Do you want me to start on great Scottish beers ?
Caledonian, McEwans IPA, Greenmantle .... hmmmm ..... damn the pub's are shut :(

Falcon500
04-23-2004, 05:15 AM
Man, you need to change bars if that's the 'good' whisky :)
Next time you're in ask the barman for the real whisky which the owner no doubt keeps in the back office :) :) :)
Thats the better stuff...that .50 premium also secures a good look at the barmaid bending down to get it (which gets more entertianing every drink :) )

Well actually crisis i brought up the subject of whisky...its my drop..the one and only black douglas...you might recognize it as cheap...but theres cheaper out there...like that swill they serve if you dont pay the .50 (although while you dont get a loom down her top you get a good look at her g-banger when she has to get up on her tip toes to get the cheap shit :D )

Ohhh thats a goodpoint about the french....both my parents drive datsuns which in this country to be sold at the time had to have lucas electrics as we made some in australia and incresed their australian content...dad has recently replced them with bosch gear for ZEE german technology (and no alteneators that need pulling apart yearly)

I have never tried any scotish beer or pommy beer...but i have tired some canadain...wast worth the money tasted too much like tooheys red for near $15 more and i have tried bud buts its shit...and an advertising campagin on john bowes mustang in GT-p couldent sell anymore then they already did...you can buy the stuff in most large areas but i can assure you that here its more then likly flat and many moths old waiting for a sucker to think "looks interesting...."

and on that note i havent tried any coopers stuff...

fpv_gtho
04-23-2004, 06:24 AM
I couldnt resist the beer conversation, so close to my heart n'all. I concur that Cascade Premium lite is not only the best , but the only lite beer that is drinkable. In fact I like the taste so much it is what I drink most of the time. The bestest of the best is Coopers Pale Ale or Real Ale if you want a headache.
Matra, enough about Whisky ok! We colonials get you cast offs and have to pay good money for it, just to subsidise your drinking habits.


have you ever tried hahn premium light? according to my dad its worth a second look

fpv_gtho
04-23-2004, 06:39 AM
theres another test of the Territory from its New Zealand launch, i'll just post the link this time: http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,9364767%255E21822,00.html

Falcon500
04-23-2004, 06:58 AM
have you ever tried hahn premium light? according to my dad its worth a second look
Thats whatmy grandfather on my mums side drinks...not as good as cascade but about as good as lights get...

crisis
04-28-2004, 06:00 PM
have you ever tried hahn premium light? according to my dad its worth a second look
Yep. Doesnt work for me. Im not predisposed to light beer but Cascade actually tastes that good that I dont care.

crisis
04-28-2004, 06:03 PM
The Territory, thats what this thread was initially about, got a severe lovin from Wheels magazine. THey tested the two wheel drive version and it apparently handles all car like. From what I can see it offers a good alternative to standard people movers. Thats about it though.

fpv_gtho
04-29-2004, 12:28 AM
yeah, Wheels are the latest to get their mits on the car, Carpoint (www.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au) have also taken both version for a test drive at the launch in New Zealand, basically as you said Wheels credited it for handling brilliantly and blurring the lines completely between SUV's, family cars and people movers. they basically say its the best australian car released and they also noted the RWD territory almost belongs in a different class to the AWD model. performance despite its 2 and 2.1 tonne bulk is not far off par of a V6 Camry or Magna surprisingly, and so far i suppose for a petrol SUV/4wd at that weight the fuel consumption is appropriate, but still only just under the 20L/100km mark.

compared to the Outback, Klugar and Adventra, the Territory gained a 4.5 star rating whilst the Outback and Klugar got 4 and the Adventra got 3

Ferrari Tifosi
05-02-2004, 03:29 PM
Sweetwater, Sierra Nevada, Terrapin, Guinness, and Bass are my beers of choice. mmmmm Sweetwater IPA mmmmmm. :D

fpv_gtho
05-04-2004, 02:52 AM
congratulations Matra, out little beer discussion has attracted attention from Stateside :p

Hispano Swissa
05-06-2004, 03:29 AM
While this vehicle, the Ford Territory, is not exactly my cup of tea, it seems to me it can get positive response in many markets, is there any plan to export it (beyond the RHD South-Pacific rim I mean)?

I suppose Holden might sell Adventra in the Persian Gulf under the Chevrolet brand, as they do their Commodore and Caprice.

fpv_gtho
05-06-2004, 03:43 AM
Well Australia and New Zealand of course get first dibs. After that, who knows? Ford Australia currently don't export the Falcon out of the continent so when the Territory goes on sale June 1st, it'll be going where the Falcon goes. Recently though, Richard Parry-Jones went on holiday in Tasmania and Ford Australia provided him with a pre-production Territory, and to say he was overly impressed would be being conservative. This is from someone who's apparently hard to impress, or something like that. Either way, if he loved it, it means something

Falcon500
05-06-2004, 04:27 AM
Ford expects a largemarket from africa...and no doubt itllbe popular in NZ....they seem to think this is a good compramise between a car and full blown 4x4...if they are right the possiblilitys are endless!

fpv_gtho
05-06-2004, 04:35 AM
well theres still the unconfirmed higher riding suspension package and apparently Geoff Polites told someone that there WILL be a 240 and 270kw territory, although since theres a 235kw and 270kw Adventra, you would think it would be the logical step to more sales, but Fords first predictions were that they were going to sell about 2 falcons to 1 territory, now its closer to 3 falcons to 1 territory.

Falcon500
05-06-2004, 04:46 AM
Still that might be enough to take over holden in totalsales if you think about it...the focus is a decent seller unlikeholdens similarsized,pricedVectra....the festive hasa lower entry price then barina....falcon has actually beat commadore sales twice last year and once this year (i think) courior and falcon utes lead their ranges in sales...exploror and that mazda based ones are seemingly doing ok...and terriorty to top it off...goodrpices and glowing reviews might be what fordneeds to dust off the adventra...which is expenasive (very much so too)...it also doesnt have the clearence or the carryingload of the jackaroo it replaced...(and the strange rwd like 4x4 in it)...time will tell....and rember this is just a possiblity......

fpv_gtho
05-06-2004, 05:11 AM
Unfortunately it was only 1 month the Falcon outsold the Commodore but that was to end its sales reign. On combined ute/sedan/wagon sales though it has beaten the Commodore on more than one occasion, and last month was only about 300 sales behind at about 5400 and 5100 respectively. The Commodore ute with the One Tonner and Crewman has more than closed the gap on the Falcon Ute though, and i believe is now leading it by about the same margin as the sedan. Geoff Polites before he left for merry ol England said that he had hoped to increase Ford's total market share of 13% to about 18%, but thats still not going to overtake Holden or Toyota. The Fiesta is a better car than the Barina so it SHOULD outsell, the Focus is underpowered and our society treats underpowered cars harshly so its struggling, the Escape seems to be outselling the Frontera, but i dont think by any big margin or anything, Mazda are much more successful with their Tribute. The Falcon is sitting behind the Commodore still, but its getting enough sales to keep Ford happy and Holden on the edge. The Fairlane isnt selling as much as planned, mainly as a result of a decline in the limo market. The Explorer would be racking in more sales than the aged Jackaroo but again, not by much. Ford's big loser now compared to Holden would be the Courier, which i wouldnt be surprised to see the Rodeo outsell it 2:1. Ford need the Focus C-Max to go against the Zafira and the Mondeo for the Vectra to get serious on reclaiming #1 and they seriously need to get serious on the marketing front. They can't sell cars if the public doesnt know anything about them

Falcon500
05-06-2004, 06:07 AM
The Jackaroo has been put to pasture with the Adventra comming out sales have gone backwards there because of greater costs....
Tonners are not very popular i can tell you that now Crewmans are selling less then planned but are doing good enough...trademan still seem to like the falcon...and lots and i means lots seem to opt for manual SOHC v8s....
VY sales have ground to a halt...they arnt really selling anymore but arnt really going backwards...while the falcon sales are slowly increasing....
Focus is underpowerd...but in all realisum what cars in its class arnt?
Festiva should get them on the map with the micro car market...
Ican tell you in the rich(snobbish) and cosmapolitan capital statemans dont seem tobe doing to well either....but luxuary brands like bmw and mercades seem to be the real winners in this market....
Curiors while dontseem top be doing well are great cars and are really dead level with the Rodeo...that saidill no doubt buy a rodeo because for me their cheaper :)

crisis
05-07-2004, 12:01 AM
The Jackaroo has been put to pasture with the Adventra comming out sales have gone backwards there because of greater costs....
Tonners are not very popular i can tell you that now Crewmans are selling less then planned but are doing good enough...trademan still seem to like the falcon...and lots and i means lots seem to opt for manual SOHC v8s....
VY sales have ground to a halt...they arnt really selling anymore but arnt really going backwards...while the falcon sales are slowly increasing....
Focus is underpowerd...but in all realisum what cars in its class arnt?
Festiva should get them on the map with the micro car market...
Ican tell you in the rich(snobbish) and cosmapolitan capital statemans dont seem tobe doing to well either....but luxuary brands like bmw and mercades seem to be the real winners in this market....
Curiors while dontseem top be doing well are great cars and are really dead level with the Rodeo...that saidill no doubt buy a rodeo because for me their cheaper :)
The Jakaroo, despite its age is twice the off roader the Adventra will ever be. Irrelevant these days I suppose. The Exploder is a crock and always has been.
A possible reason that Statesmans and Fairlanes dont fare so well in the BMW Merc arena could be that people who buy comparatively priced Mercs and BMWs are buying for snob appeal. Comparing a Statesman with a BMW in its price range , there is no comparison, power , features, size (if thats important) etc. Is only the higher priced BMWs that feature equiptment and engines that are worth the hoo ha.

Falcon500
05-07-2004, 03:46 AM
Jackaroos where good cars and one i would seriously consider price and practicality wise over an adventra!
And Not to mention the flacon and statemans get about the samefuel ecconmy in much larger cars....dont have wnaky options which are rather queastionable in their function/necesity....dont have interior that pulls aparat like lego and are much cheaper to maintain and service and get spares for...

fpv_gtho
05-08-2004, 04:42 AM
The Jakaroo, despite its age is twice the off roader the Adventra will ever be. Irrelevant these days I suppose. The Exploder is a crock and always has been.
A possible reason that Statesmans and Fairlanes dont fare so well in the BMW Merc arena could be that people who buy comparatively priced Mercs and BMWs are buying for snob appeal. Comparing a Statesman with a BMW in its price range , there is no comparison, power , features, size (if thats important) etc. Is only the higher priced BMWs that feature equiptment and engines that are worth the hoo ha.


i think crisis has it spot on here, despite the Jackaroo being a 12 year old Izuzu derived 4x4 and the Explorer being a typical American SUV, theres 2 things they both have over the Territory and Adventra and thats ground clearance and low range. Wheel still list the Jackaroo in their price list which theyve now grouped in $5K bundles rather than manufacturers, so im sceptical at whether Holden still imports them or has it on the market to get rid of showroom stock

Falcon500
05-08-2004, 04:59 AM
Well i saw a territory today....it was a custard coloured yellow and it was smallerthen i imagined...i fail to see with a compareablycompact size comparedto other similar cars how it could be as heavy as it is....

fpv_gtho
05-08-2004, 05:03 AM
my guess would be body rigidy, sound deadening and safety equipment, all the same with the BA falcon chassis. they couldve gotten it well under 2 tonne if they wanted to go back a couple of years though in safety, NVH and rice quality. considering the additional AWD equipment accounts for only 80kg, i wouldnt put too much blame on that though

Falcon500
05-08-2004, 05:47 AM
Well 80kg is alot...its more then me...butstill like the faslcon its suprisinglyheavy...whilenot a bad thing its just a little off....i hope they soon come up with weight saveing ideas....

fpv_gtho
05-08-2004, 05:55 AM
well i think the AWD hardware for holden added about 150kg, i mean the Coupe4 was 1800kg compared to about, what, 1650 for the HSV GTO so thats a good thing i suppose. the car doesnt really pay for its weight as much as your would thinkg though, like people say it doesnt feel like 2 tonne, and even though they complain about getting 15L/100km, i'd like to see a petrol Patrol or Landcruiser match that

Falcon500
05-09-2004, 03:15 AM
Im wondering if we will see a diesel version of the territory....im highly doubtful of it but its an idea i think....
That fuel ecconmy is better then a 285 kw Clupsport manual which gets about 17l/100km if i rember correctly....slight off topic queastion do you rember what ecconmy figures the GT if i rember corretly i think their better....of course im not too sure id be suprised if it did with its higher kurb weight....
most softer 4x4s donti cantell you thatnow...not saying iots soft...im assuming it is buti have no proof either way....the lighter rodeos feel heavier and are said to handel like trucks but ive been told theirquite easy to drive....toyota prados despite their large weight ride very softly so softly I had to errr on the side of caution while driveing road feel was at a minimum and it was far to easy to turn for something its weight...
I actually saw one on the road the other day in a greenish grey kinda colour...sotheir on the move here....

fpv_gtho
05-09-2004, 03:33 AM
Im wondering if we will see a diesel version of the territory....im highly doubtful of it but its an idea i think....
Well Ford have a couple of good diesels overseas at their disposal, notably the 2.7L common rail, TDI they jointly developed with Peugeot/Citroen and the 4.2 from the F series, but that would be better suited for the Explorer.


That fuel ecconmy is better then a 285 kw Clupsport manual which gets about 17l/100km if i rember correctly....slight off topic queastion do you rember what ecconmy figures the GT if i rember corretly i think their better....of course im not too sure id be suprised if it did with its higher kurb weight....
Well 17L/100km/h isnt the best they would get, but by no means the worst either. I think a GT would get similar figures from most people, but if you started pushing it or really loved hearing the engine it would easily creep over 20L/100km. Day to day though, the GT would pay more than the Clubby at the bowser


most softer 4x4s donti cantell you thatnow...not saying iots soft...im assuming it is buti have no proof either way....
Well remember the most popular engine for soft roaders are 4 cylinders, which are good around town mainly but when pushed they start to drink like a 6. Technically, the Territory is a crossover whilst something more like the Escape is a soft roader, but theyre both built for those who dont need a 4x4 but may use one in the distant, unplanned future.


the lighter rodeos feel heavier and are said to handel like trucks but ive been told theirquite easy to drive....toyota prados despite their large weight ride very softly so softly I had to errr on the side of caution while driveing road feel was at a minimum and it was far to easy to turn for something its weight...
I actually saw one on the road the other day in a greenish grey kinda colour...sotheir on the move here....
Well Rodeo's are essentially a truck, theyve still got the seperate box section chassis, they probably dont have airbags in the base model as standard yet, but still, theyre being designed more for people who will buy a 4 door Rodeo because its cheaper than a Commodore or something. Same story with the Prado but the steering issue i would put it down to the ratio that Toyota set, to make it easier for offroading. Youve probably heard people talk about camshafts operating to their best at certain RPM's, well the same goes for steering ratios which is why manufacturers like BMW now are developing variable ratio steering racks so that in the parking lot you can have like 1.5 turns lock to lock, but 120km/h down the highway it may be 4 turns lock to lock

Falcon500
05-09-2004, 04:01 AM
No im talkingabout the weight in it...sitting still while turning thewheel had no effort what so ever (i did it this way because its eaiser and it wasnt my car) you breathe on it and it gos full lock!
A prime example of stering ratio os the 240Z it has very heave stearing at slow speeds but feels great at high speed....

fpv_gtho
05-09-2004, 04:26 AM
well still, i'd put that down to make it easier for offroading. The cars designed so that in low range on most surfaces you basically just have to steer and they make that as easy as possible it seems as well. i think a steering rack with alot of weight in it is just another obstacle like a heavy clutch to get around

Falcon500
05-09-2004, 05:23 AM
Personally i think itslight to the point of being stupid if youdozeoff and have a slight lean youll be vearing very quickly indeed....

fpv_gtho
05-09-2004, 05:27 AM
well if its really that bad it may be a step too far. toyota probably say that if you fall asleep at the wheel its likely your going to crash anyway so its no weight on their shoulders if you vere across 4 lanes in the process :(

Falcon500
05-09-2004, 05:42 AM
Well there wouldent be much you could do....but this is part of the reason i dont like weak stearing.....

fpv_gtho
05-09-2004, 05:54 AM
well i know you've always had a preferance for quick ratio, non power steering units, but youve got to make compromises on things unfortunately

Falcon500
05-10-2004, 04:16 AM
Yeah well quick ratios get the prefrence with mebut if the stearing isnt sloppy or wnadery (sunny) or awkward (120Y) im happy...the studebaker has quite a slow ratio which is brilliant to drive at speed....great feel good response but its a shit to park....

fpv_gtho
05-10-2004, 04:23 AM
well if its too big a ratio im sure you'd find yourself trying to find half a mile long gaps in the traffic for turning into a street, its something my mum ended up doing when she had her V8 XA Fairmont. i think it wouldve been fairly light at steering though, the difficulty just beeing in the half dozen turns.....

Falcon500
05-10-2004, 04:51 AM
Never had that probelm...while the 283 was a bit too small for the car its in you stamp on it and it moves....something else i despise about the sunny.....
Piower stearing in the XFs was far to easy offering noroad feel just as bad was the hq and the commadores of about the same era...later model cars have some whatimproved on this but not enough to get what i call road feel out of the alrge majority...even the AU flacons good feel isnt terribly crash hot...but youget that...i dont get why wheels say its road feel (of nearly anything new) is great when in all realisum its quite poor....

fpv_gtho
05-10-2004, 04:55 AM
well Wheels would be making the comparison with the current market and possibly theyre own preferances, whilst it seems your comparing cars across vintages. when i drove my dads fairmont before he swapped the 17" tickford alloys for the stock 16" multispokes, i thought it had a fairly solid road feel

Falcon500
05-10-2004, 05:25 AM
Aus habve better then somenow ill give them that much...on a non power stearing car with the samller mags youd find it would be easier to turn...part of the reason why the studebakerwas harder to stear....its tyres would of been 7 inches in width...compared to a stock 5...

fpv_gtho
05-10-2004, 05:32 AM
well the AU has a better rack on it than the BA, i think its in the weighting of it, but i think the BA's steering was made lighter to make it harder to tell the cars 1700kg when your steering. Most things under the skin of the AU were pretty good, notably its IRS but it was all forgotten with a look of the exterior

Falcon500
05-10-2004, 05:56 AM
Well peoplehave goetten over that...well some have...much like the hasty the AU was a dog...in refelction you where lucky not to see one on the podium at the end of a race also th car had the best bathurst 100 time ever and was the best bathurst wepon compared to the commadore....and also look at the konicas 1st-6th are AU falcons....im thinking the car wasnt a dog...just didnt have the money and f1 backing HRT had and lacked in the areo give it both and look now its dominating a series rather then being a source of ridacule....

fpv_gtho
05-10-2004, 06:13 AM
Well AVESCO seemed to put the AU through 5 years of trial and error to figure out what worked and what didnt in terms of aerodynamics, where the VT was just like another modle to try figure out. HRT in the TWR days had a massive budget, and although FPR may claim they have the best facilities today, last year it was HRT even after TWR folded. The AU though did provide good shootout results, apart from the ongoing qualifying battles between Ambrose and Skaife, both Larkham and Jones were put on podium at Bathurst in 99 and 2002 in an AU, and 2002 i believe BJ was starting to build a considerable lead on Skaife befire Skaife got into the swing of things

Falcon500
05-10-2004, 06:39 AM
Jones built up a 2 second lead on the first lap and led the first 90laps till a bolt in the suspension broke and ended his bathurst hopes that year.....
Skaife inheratid through utrition not by supior speed handeling...
and your thinking 03...o2 was the year they where behind...skaifes team was running low on fuel and radioed Brdaly jones and asked if they both could short shift so they both might finish...BJs answer was "im here to race" people say he could of caught him...i personally dont wish to comment...he might of he may not...he was lapping faster though...
Also that year they came from 32nd to 2nd it was considerd the story of the daay and was the moment that lifted the oziemail team froma privateer operation too a top level team....that year they didnt have jb who was raceing in the cat falcon and was leading till a mishap happend in the pits and he had to be psuhed back too his bay because he mistook his number 888 for 88 in the same fluro yellow writing...ithink he ended up in one of the DJR pit bays...he later clawed his way back on the podium but was caught out on the pit entrance when it rained....instead they had John Cleland (BTCC Vetran matra and henk might know of him) who accomapnyed Andrew Jones last year in the 2nd ozimail car....
03 was the only true horror race of the au with the top ford runner being dean canto in the DJR falcon in 6th....

fpv_gtho
05-10-2004, 04:28 PM
O3 they already had the BA's and VY's running around, BJ says in the interviews for the Bathurst coverage that his most memourable moment there was snatching pole from Skaife there in 2002

Falcon500
05-11-2004, 02:15 AM
ok slight modifaction....move the dates i gaveback a year :D...i cheaked over that info again 02 jb joined up and they opend up 2 second gap etc....01 bowe lead and then crashed out....02 was the horror year as well with dean cantotop ford....

Give me a break i was typeing out a fair bit of info and that was allfrom memory too :( other then a few mitakes in year the info is very solid (that doesnt happen all the time...i really stuffed up this time lol)

fpv_gtho
05-11-2004, 05:29 AM
well no harm done, its still all relevant information youve provided. those couple of years JB spent with CAT between BJR and DJR were probably some of his lowest in his career and whilst some may have thought that joining BJR was either going to drop him further or lift BJ and his team right up in the ranks, and thankfully it was the latter that was done.

Falcon500
05-12-2004, 05:13 AM
His cat years where actually looked promising BUT results didnt happen...after bathurst they ditched bowe for canto (canto got the record for the fasted lap of bathurst during the race that year) even after he stacked the car...same deal with canto looked promising but then briggs shuffled him to Better electriacal and he stayed at the start of 888 and then later dissapred for paul radashich....Actually BJR hasnt really moved either way...this year is their best year so far...their reguarly in the top 10 (they where ebfore but as before they usually didnt finish) they survived through dedicated sponsors and much the same from their fans....if they keep this up theyll more then likly be in good form for bathurst...and they are in with a good chance at konicas if Andrew Jones gets lucky...the good thing about that team is they have 2 experianced racers and a good grass roots family that can take over the drivers seats in later dates...(both JB and BJ are not young men anymore) well just have to wait and see now wont we....

fpv_gtho
05-12-2004, 05:20 AM
well age only becomes a contributing factor when form is lacking, just look at Jim Richards, he looks like he could keep going until he's well over 80 at this rate. JB though at 55 is the oldes in the field, but still hes rivalling Skaife for form

Bathurst this year could see a couple of re thinks with the driver lineups, I'd say its being debated whether its smarter to put Ingall and Ambrose back in the same car or get some rookies in for each of them. No doubt rick kelly and Murphy will be back together, same with JB and BJ and DJR will be able to stick their 2 regulars together in the same car now as there isnt the 20cm height difference theyre used to be firstly with the Rat then with Max Wilson

Falcon500
05-12-2004, 05:38 AM
Well that said rember john faulkner wasnt even 50 when he retierd and he was also in some of his best form ever....when someoneknows they want to retier they will....also richards is also in semi retierment....peopleknow when it is time...and its better to leave while your on top....look what happened to broakc when he left and came back...he came 2nd last at bathurst....
Driver lineups are always diffrent at these tracks...im curious about wether paul stokell will get a drive this year...who the bates brothers will get a drive with...and who will risk arookie and who will take and oldie...the year before morris took a rookie...didnt pay off...and last year he took John Faulkner and that didnt pay off either...though the problems where mechanical last time...also im wondering if the Ambrose /Greg Crick combination will ever happen again?

Falcon500
05-13-2004, 05:03 AM
Oh BTW Greg crick and ambrose teamed up in 01 i though it wasa good combination at the time...great young gun teamed up with seasoned driver...and both where tasmanian :)

fpv_gtho
05-14-2004, 03:00 AM
Well we may see Paul Stokell and Creg Crick in the SBR garage working out driver combinations, whether they go back to Ambrose and Crick in #1 and Ingall and Stokell in #9, or last years format with Crick and Stokell in #9 who really knows, but it would be a worthwile strategy i woul think.

The Bates brothers on the other hand may find themselves either working with FPR or 888. Both of these teams are the most likely to stick the regular drivers in 1 car so that leaves an empty car, and i dont think the Bates have that much experience in a Holden team either

Falcon500
05-14-2004, 04:28 AM
Well personallyi hink both crick and stokell are underrated they both have been in raceing forever...stokell is prehaps the only professinal driver in Nations cup and defintly is now bowe isnt there....Stokell is three times gold star driver champion (formula holden) and last years nations cup winner...crick im not too sure what his qualifications are but hes a sturdy mature and fast driver with alot of experiance....
The bates brother have usually cshacked up withsmall teams who left their car with no drivers eg...mark noske and frosty last year and they drove noskes panasonic sponsored au falcon...

fpv_gtho
05-14-2004, 07:14 AM
Well Crick seems quite capable of driving a Viper which isnt dissimilar to the layout of the V8 Supercars, and Stokell drives the Lambo but still its a monster, so theyre not people to be looked over unless SBR want to improve on the reliability of Ingall and Ambrose together. They may have been rated as 10/10 by channel 10 last year for bathurst, but in the same circumstances this year, i'd say they would only get the 9 or 8 rating seto and lowndes got.

Falcon500
05-15-2004, 05:54 PM
The lambo managed to lap 2 seconds quicker then a v8 super car at phillip island...it seems the geraing may be more desirable and also the car does have better areodynamics...but still it would be a ahndful...anything that fast would be...also on that note i was whatching the nations cup at oran park and brocky was getting alot of greif from modified porsche cup cars....mayby it was a bad thing for him to leave the team all considering nathan pretty is running rings around him and his son!
What reallymakes me curious is how stokell is dominating and has minimal sponsorship on his car where the monaros are coverd in it brocks poolrite and the just cars of nathan prettys are the dominating ones....
And we can predict all day but we still have no idea whats going to happen this bathurst the only thing im hopeful for is Jeffery Brabbam returning with the shell team this year...

motorsportnerd
05-15-2004, 06:11 PM
According to this week's Motorsport News, David Brabham will be returning to the DJR squad for the endurance races. Steve Johnson and Warren Luff are automatic choices. The fourth driver may be Owen Kelly.
Last year David teamed with Max Wilson, and they finished 12th. Hopefully he'll do better this year.

fpv_gtho
05-16-2004, 12:51 AM
I'd really like to see DJR on the podium at Bathurst, and whilst with SBR, HRT and Kmart racing out there it seems impossible, just remember Lowndes and Seton seemed to come from behind last year and get 2nd place.

Owen Wilson seems to be moving around more than David Besnard lately, last year he teamed with Bessie with Seto's car i think it was at Sandown and Bathurst whilst he drove for Smiths Trucks in last years Konica's, and this year he's taken the #71 car into the Konica's for DJR.

Falcon500
05-16-2004, 04:31 AM
Im not shoveing DJR out of the picture yet...they are still gaining momentum rember they have had promising moment so far this year...i wonder if theyll be able to make them stick?
Preahps brabbam will do better this year as heshad more experiance in the cars and also has done a very large number of laps at bathurst...a;; considering his 24 hour attack....

fpv_gtho
05-16-2004, 04:35 AM
well im not trying to write DJR of either, but the statistics aren't in their favour to put them on the podium at Bathurst, theyre going to have to rely on misfortune from a couple of people from SBR, HRT, Kmart, FPR, GRM and PWR

Falcon500
05-16-2004, 05:23 AM
Statistics dont exactly tell the whole story...if you reliedoff them ellery wouldentof beena threat in either of the 2 endurance races.....

fpv_gtho
05-16-2004, 05:33 AM
well last year misfortune from both HRT and SBR got Ellery onto podium, but still it would be a great thing if DJR can get on the podium. its not that they dont have the pace or the reliability, its theres alot of teams out there capable of matching and beating their facilities and making a quicker car. hopefully the race wont be won in qualifying as well though

Falcon500
05-17-2004, 02:56 AM
Yeah but he was stilltop 5 and he came 2nd in sandown on hisown speed too as i said statistics dont mean a whole lot...david thexton was a non event to statistics and came 10th.....

fpv_gtho
05-19-2004, 04:17 AM
well its the statistics that all the bets for bathurst are made from, and if everyone of the top teams are having a good run then they mean a lot. but still, there wouldnt be many years at bathurst where everyone of the level 1 teams came away happy with their performance, so thats gotta give the little guys some inspiration

Falcon500
05-19-2004, 05:47 AM
Hence my view of more of a privateers cup...one of the "establishments" of modern v8 super car raceing the lansvale smash repair team (now known as tasman motorsport) was started by steve reed and trevor ashby (im not sure about the first one) who done their first bathurst in 86...they where mates haveing fun and advertising their buisness they also scored a top 10 finish whilenot topping Dick Johnson (mustang III) or TWR (jaguars) they still slugges it out all day and where rwarded with 6th i think it was and they have been to 11 bathursts together and have been in raceing ever since (albeit as team owners in the early/mid 90s) this sport used to thrive on them but nowdays a high ranked privateer like paul salmon came top 20 in 02 (i think he came 14-16th cant rember exactly)...and his team has folded since then...he would of done better if his bonnet hadent of come undone at speed....
And bets dont always tellthe truth...I wouldent be leading the footy comp at work itf i worked of what the footyTAB said...rember listen to the voice inside...gut feelings i find are more satisfying and sometimes more accurate then fact and figures....of course lsiten to what they say i find statistics valueble to either discredit or agree with me....But a choice can be made internially and it takes a strong person to say it and even stronger to stand by it...and the strongest of them all...the one who can admit when they are wrong....my views anways I admited when i was wrong and congradulated murph when he won bathurst...

SlickHolden
05-23-2004, 09:15 AM
Fords territory is nothing more then a pink handbag as my brother calls it. And he is a ford man no bulls%#t

fpv_gtho
05-24-2004, 02:55 AM
thats rather blunt dont you think.....

Even people who arent fussed about soft roaders are either impressed by the Territory or think it will do well. Most of the people who have driven it say that its better than the critically aclaimed BA Falcon and still uses much the same hardware package

SlickHolden
05-24-2004, 03:36 AM
As i said that was my brothers opinion and he is a ford man he's up ambrose like you wouldnt belive been following this guy for years. He told his mates years ago that he would win the championship soon and he did, But my bro is very open he likes some holdens he hates some same with ford. His funny around the table. tells me about the vs Clubsport's that pop rear windows under stress hydratrack diff's he thinks thats a good car for his babe to pick up shopping in thats it :)

fpv_gtho
05-24-2004, 03:44 AM
well anyone that knew Ambrose's racing history could predict big things for him. He was going faster than Kimi Raikkonen in F3, and Kimi last year almost stopped Schuey winning the championship.

SlickHolden
05-24-2004, 03:46 AM
I think kimi is in trouble

fpv_gtho
05-24-2004, 03:53 AM
he seems to be suffering similar things to webber, in that the team arent giving the drivers the reliability in the cars to keep competitive. both Mark and Kimi are genuinely championship contention drivers

SlickHolden
05-24-2004, 03:56 AM
Lets hope mark goes to williams or renault like AJ wants him to, Here that aussie anthem ahhhh :) man that would be tops

fpv_gtho
05-24-2004, 04:02 AM
Neil Crompton has the utmost confidence Webber will join Williams next year, but it will be 2006 that we should keep an eye on him as its unlikely he'll be top stuff straight off the mark (no pun intended) at the start of the year with a new team. it might be the opportunity Alonso and Button need to get a championship before Webbers got reliability and speed on his side