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lfb666
04-23-2004, 08:30 AM
The Atlantic was build in a limited edition of three cars:

The original Atlantic was built in 1953 on a regular Type 57 chassis giving it taller proportions when compared to the other Atlantics. It is the only Atlantic to have a body made entirely of magnesium. As electron was the commercial name for magnesium, the car was often called the Aerolithe Electron Coupe. The complete history the Aerolithe Coupe is unknown, but it may have been hit by a train. Chassis #57374 is the second Atlantic in a series of three and has a body of aluminum. It was built in 1936 and supposedly uses parts from the Aerolithe. The first owner of #57374, Lord Victor Rothschild of London, ordered the car in light blue with dark blue interior. The car was originally a Type 57S, but Lord Victor send the car back to Bugatti in 1939 to receive a supercharger. Bob Oliver of Los Angeles was the second owner of #57374 and modified it in drastic ways. Bob resized the rear windows and painted the car several different colors including red. The final owner, Peter D. Williamson of Lyme, New Hampshire, has respectfully restored the car to its 1936 specification. He debuted it at the 2003 Pebble Beach Concours and won best in show. The final Atlantic is the most published of the three: chassis #57591. Ralph Lauren, who owns a large global brand, has owned this car since 1988. With a strong inclination towards important and authentic cars, Ralph includes #57591 as a highlight in his collection which has Type 57SC Gangloff Cabriolet #57563.
History of #57591 is uncertain, but a few journalists have labeled it the Lord Victor Rothschild car. With the recently surfaced news of #57374, Ralph's car is not the light blue car painted to match some ring, but it does make a nice story.
Being sensitive to authenticity, Ralph commissioned Paul Russel to comprehensively restore #57591 using as many original parts as possible. During the restoration, Paul and his team discovered details such as original tan goatskin upholstery and seats filled with horsehair bags wrapped in muslin. After the project was complete it was shown at the 2000 Pebble Beach Concours D'Elegance where it won best of show. Like many of Ralph's Bugattis the car is finished in black. It is possible Ralph's car was originally French Racing Blue.

Text by Supercars.net

Specifications

Year: 1937
Make: Bugatti
Model: Type 57SC Atlantic
Position: Front Longitudinal
Configuration: Inline-8 w/Cast Iron Block, Dry Sump Lubrication
Valvetrain: 2 Valves per Cyl, DOHC
Displacement: 3257 cc / 198.8 cu in
Power: 156.6 kw / 210 bhp @ 5500 rpm
Bore: 72 mm / 2.83 in
Stroke: 100 mm / 3.94 in
Redline: 5500
HP / Liter: 64.48 bhp per litre
HP / Curb: Weight 220.36 bhp per weight
Gear Type: 4-Speed Manual
Top Speed: 177.0 kph / 110.0 mph
0 - 60 mph: 10 seconds

EvilPaladin
04-23-2004, 08:38 AM
The best looking Bugatti IMO.

UK CARS
04-23-2004, 08:40 AM
sorry mine arnt high res. :o

EvilPaladin
04-23-2004, 09:12 AM
Wrong model UK Cars.

TIM
10-13-2004, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=lfb666]The Atlantic was build in a limited edition of three cars:


To my knowledge the third Bugatti Type 57 SC Atlantique belongs to a French collector of the name Nicolas Seydoux living in Paris. The chassis no. is 57473. The car was shown at the Italian Concorso d'Eleganza at the Villa d'Este in 2000. I found some pics of it I'd like to share with you:

http://www.classicdriver.de/upload/images/magazin/week_25_00_01/car_pop01.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.de/upload/images/magazin/week_25_00_01/car_pop02.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.de/upload/images/magazin/week_25_00_01/car_pop03.jpg

http://www.classicdriver.de/upload/images/magazin/week_25_00_01/car_pop04.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/scuderiacc/Pics/At3.jpg

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At5.jpg


http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At6.jpg

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At8.jpg

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At9.jpg

TIM
10-13-2004, 05:18 PM
Here's the restauration report on the 1936 Atlantic owned by Mr. Williamson with a nice and rare pic of the wooden construction (Chassis No.: 57374):
http://www.bugatti.co.uk/trust/nl16-9.html

more pics on the car (The pictures are very big, but it's worth uploading them, especially the last two interior pics!!)

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At15.jpg
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At14.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/22car0.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/23car6.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/images-small/1935_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic_1.gif
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/FireRed/56car0.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/23car2.jpg
http://www.bugattipage.com/newspics/pb03-1.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=1935_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic-3.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/23car1.jpg
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At13.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/23car5.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/23car4.jpg

TIM
10-13-2004, 05:32 PM
Here are some pics on Ralph Laurens Atlantic (Chassis No.: 57591):


The pictures are again very big, but it's worth uploading them, especially the last two interior pics!!)

http://www.classics.com/images/pb00-24.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/22car0.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/22car1.jpg
http://www.acadie.net/chronique_images/bugatti.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=1937_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic-3.jpg
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At3.jpg
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At4.jpg
http://www.bugattipage.com/voitures/bugatti/atlanti4.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/images-small/1937_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic-1.gif
http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=1937_bugatti_type_57sc_atlantic-2.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/22car4.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/Duesey/22car5.jpg


The following is apicture of the Bugatti Type 51 DUBOS Coupé, shown at the Pebble Beach Concours 2003 (known as the baby-Atlantic built by the coachbuilder Dubos)

http://www.bugattipage.com/newspics/dubos-s.jpg


Here are two pictures of the Bugatti Aerolythe prototype (later called ATLANTIC) shown at the London Motor Show in 1936

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At2.jpg
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/Bugatti57-08.jpg

BugattiFan
01-28-2005, 03:27 AM
OK. we know that there's only 3 T57 which are "real"
So dou you have any information about this one?

Porsche ´77
02-01-2005, 01:20 PM
It´s too good looking to see it without making a reverence.

Dino Scuderia
02-01-2005, 06:11 PM
Here's some pics I took at the Amelia Island Concours last year. All the Bugatti's there were absolutely stunning.

Dino Scuderia
02-01-2005, 06:13 PM
One more.

Koenigsegg_CC
02-04-2005, 04:39 AM
^ They are beautiful looking things ^

TIM
02-04-2005, 08:28 AM
OK. we know that there's only 3 T57 which are "real"
So dou you have any information about this one?

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=87900
This should be the Williamson's Atlantic before it was restored to its original condition. the restauration report speaks of the headlights being relocated to the original position. So the Sedoux-style Headlights could be a factory update from 1939. Although I am quite sure this is the case we are still missing evidence.
I will continue try finding evidence on that. Do you have any pre-restauration pictures of the Williamson car? I think I have them among my 100000 pictures, if I only knew where to look!
Got a little mixed up in my database. :confused:
Sorry I can't help you more at the moment.

BugattiFan
02-05-2005, 02:39 PM
I have a well organized folder system (refering chassis numbers) about Bugatti, I give them a special care :)) But I don't have pre-restauration pictures of Williamson's, I'm waiting for news from you :)

TIM
02-07-2005, 01:19 PM
I have a well organized folder system (refering chassis numbers) about Bugatti, I give them a special care But I don't have pre-restauration pictures of Williamson's, I'm waiting for news from you


Hi, BugattiFan, I personally consider Bugattis pieces of Art. I guess you happily agree to that. For that reason my Bugatti pictures are much better organized than I thought. :)
I found a historic black and white pictures of one Atlantic that could be the mystery-car:




"Mystery"-picture

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/1999/s99080801/bg385702.jpg

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At1.jpg
The guys at Bellesdantan believe this is possibly No. 57473 (Seydoux's car before change of chassis?)
But compare this picture to our mystery picture at velocityjournal!
Even the blinkers are in the same place and the rear fenders are very much alike. What do you think? But it could also be Seydoux' car before body-change and the velocity picture could then be a replica or an atlantic body on an atalante chassis.
The guys at velocity say it's a "1938 Bugatti Type 57C Atalante". Well, now we still don't really know, do we:( ?


Just for your collezione, if you don't have them already:

a pre-restauration pic of Lauren's car:
http://www.cybersteering.com/contest/test12.jpg

It was a nice light blue, not the violet it seems in this bad-quality-photo.


This is a historic factory-condition photo of Lauren's car with spoke tires:

http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At12.jpg://
http://www.bellesdantan.com/Bugatti/Images/57S-At12.jpg

henk4
02-07-2005, 02:00 PM
DH-00-79 was shown at Interclassics in Maastricht earlier in January this year. It is Dutch registered, but is this the Danish built replica?

TIM
02-08-2005, 09:51 AM
DH-00-79 was shown at Interclassics in Maastricht earlier in January this year. It is Dutch registered, but is this the Danish built replica?


The Replica was made by the Danish Bugattiist by the name of Erik Koux. By the way, the Atlantic Replica Volkswagen owns that has the licence plate "1939" in the front was built by "magic Koux" also! It is black just like the DH-00-79
http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/images/0326/bugatti-t57-22.jpg

Read this article on the Volkswagen Atlantic replica:
Volkswagen acquired just one Royale

At last weeks Bugatti festival in Molsheim I tried to confirm the latest news about Volkswagen having acquired two Royales. Actually I asked the man at the wheel of the Binder coupe de Ville. This is the car bought by Volkswagen, the only Royale. They did buy another Bugatti though, a replica T57SC Atlantic (by Eric Koux), The one that was shown at the Bugatti exhibition in Amsterdam. This seems logical, as they used the famous "fin" in all their models presented so far!
Volkswagen sponsored this years event, held everey year to commemorate Ettore´s birthday. A report can be seen on their pages: www.bugatti-cars.de. There were some 60 or so Bugattis present, ranging from a type 10 to a EB110, the event was held at the site of the factory, at Messier-Bugatti, which makes aircraft parts now. It was a great sight, especially seeing two Royale´s (the replica Esder´s roadster was also there!) driving one behind the other!! The following day I saw two more Royale´s at the Schlumpf-museum at Mulhouse.

Volkswagen also bought the chateau, and are really busy restoring it, as they are with an old part of the factory.
taken from: www.bugattipage.com/1999news.htm



This interesting text was taken from "ritzsite":
http://www.ritzsite.net/Bugatti_T57/03_T57.htm

Next to the introduction of the Atalante model in 1935 an experimental model on the S-chassis appeared: the Aérolithe. This car created quite a stir with its unusual low, almost hunched body style and its ability to reach a maximum speed of 200 kph. It attracted enough interest to consider taking it into production, and so the Atlantic was presented in 1936 as the production version of the Aérolithe.
It was to become the rarest and most exotic of all Type 57 Bugattis. The Atlantic can be regarded as the sportscar version of the Sport Atalante, with innovative streamlined 2-seater fastback coupe bodywork on the short Sport chassis and with the tuned 8-cylinder 3257 cc engine, fitted with the compressor option.

The design of the Atlantic, again the work of an inspired Jean Bugatti, showed a resemblance with another contemporary French styling icon: the Talbot-Lago T150 SS "Goutte d'Eau" (teardrop) coupe by Figoni and Falaschi, but was in an unique way ahead of its time. It followed the essence of the Aérolithe, as the name indicates an aerodynamic lightweight car, without the magnesium alloy body construction (though at least one Atlantic had an "Electron" body, an aluminum alloy). There were similarities with aircraft construction, like its most distinctive feature: the ridge running from front to back over the middle of the car which was formed by the flanges with which the 2 halves of the body shell were riveted together. This not only added to the rigidity of the construction but also stabilized the car at high speeds. This feature was also repeated on the front fenders of the car. And it was the lowest of all Type 57 Bugattis, since the rear axle ran through the chassis frame instead of underneath.

Other distinctive styling features of the Atlantic were the high sills (due to incorporating the chassis members within the body construction) which made it necessary to cut out the doors high on the sides and partly into the roof to allow for easy entering and exiting the car; the side windows which followed the roof line; the V-ed radiator shell which was placed low between the front fenders and the turtle-like rear deck. Altogether it formed a slightly bizarre but very impressive and appealing statement which inspired designers and cars for decades to come. It certainly wasn't like anything on the road in the 1930s and for the people at the time it might just as well have come from outer space.

This, and its exorbitant price, made the Atlantic hard to sell. Though its agility was undoubted, its pedigree revered and its design much acclaimed, only a few left the factory between 1936-1938. Apparently parts were made for 6 Atlantics but only 3 were sold, all fitted with compressor. Two of these have survived to this day and one was (re)assembled from remaining parts, so now 3 original Atlantics are extant.
After WW2 when streamlined design became rapidly accepted, the Atlantic soon was seen as a lighting example and a work of art. The value of the few cars left went sky high and now it's one of the most expensive classics in the world. And one of the most beautiful in my opinion.

To be honest: the Atlantic shown here is an exact replica made by Erik Koux, based on original Bugatti parts but with new, exactly recreated, chassis and body. Of the 3 remaining Atlantics 2 reside in the US and 1 in France, so this fine Dutch replica will have to do for now...

http://www.ritzsite.net/Bugatti_T57/Bugatti_T57_SC_Atlantic_1937_r3q.jpg


Here's another Kooux Replica of the Ralph Lauren car shown at Schwetzingen in 2001, owned by a wealthy US-American. What do you think about the additional headlights????

http://www.madle.org/bug57atl3.JPG
http://www.madle.org/bug57atl1.JPG

This is what Peter Madle thinks about the car being shown at Schwetzingen:
http://www.madle.org/eev601.htm
"Even if the car is based on an original Bugatti chassis, it's not an original Atlantique, and so it shouldn't be shown on a Concours D'Elegance... "



Here's another Koux remake on an original chassis:
http://www.megeve-simplon.com/bug57sc.jpg
http://www.bugattipage.com/voitures/bugatti/crail2.jpg
http://www.bugattipage.com/voitures/bugatti/crail4.jpg
http://www.bugattipage.com/voitures/bugatti/crail5.jpg
It's a 1938 replica, BUGATTI 57SC ATLANTIC 1938
original chassis and engine, sublime and very fast car !
http://www.megeve-simplon.com/summary_in_english/the_Megeve-Simplon_rallys_from/rally_Megeve-Simplon_2000/pictures_2000_Megeve-Simplon_r/pictures_2000_megeve-simplon_r.html


The three restauration pictures could be the same car, taken from bugattipage:
http://www.bugattipage.com/crailv.htm

henk4
02-08-2005, 10:40 AM
[QUOTE=TIM]To be honest: the Atlantic shown here is an exact replica made by Erik Koux, based on original Bugatti parts but with new, exactly recreated, chassis and body. Of the 3 remaining Atlantics 2 reside in the US and 1 in France, so this fine Dutch replica will have to do for now...


I did rename my pics with the extension "replica" :D

TIM
02-08-2005, 10:55 AM
No, no, Henk, I took this whole text from ritzsite. I just marked this passage BOLD because it tells about the replica made by the Danish Erik Koux. That's what you wanted to know, didn't you.

Come on Henk, I have talked to you on this forum a while ago; I know you are not stupid!!! And you should know I am not, well at at least not that...stupid! Haha :D . What's life without humour!

Here's another pic of the silver Koux Atlantic, again with four headlights; is that fashionalble now among replicas :rolleyes: ?
http://www.megeve-simplon.com/ms01a60.jpg

henk4
02-08-2005, 10:58 AM
No, no, Henk, I took this whole text from ritzsite. I just marked this passage BOLD because it tells about the replica made by the Danish Erik Koux. That's what you wanted to know, didn't you.

Come on Henk, I have talked to you on this forum a while ago; I know you are not stupid!!! Haha :D . What's life without humour!

You did notice the :D at the end of my message, didn't you? :)

TIM
02-08-2005, 11:01 AM
You did notice the :D at the end of my message, didn't you? :)

Yeahh, I guess you just like to tease me a little today, that's Ok. :)

Manik
02-09-2005, 07:36 PM
wow only three made, amazing like how mercedes benz made only 5 CLK GTR Roadsters. Heres a picture. I dunno whos car this is tho................heres the link..such a spactular automobile

http://www.daveolimpiautomobiles.com/images/newsletter/BestOfShow.JPG

lfb666
03-09-2005, 07:24 AM
Ralph Lauren - Bugatti

Dino Scuderia
03-15-2005, 08:04 AM
Here's a Type 51 'Baby Atlantic', I took these pics this past weekend. This car won Best In Show, it is a stunning example.

Dino Scuderia
03-15-2005, 08:06 AM
One more pic to show the spine which does not have rivets like the Type 57 Atlantics.

netburner
03-15-2005, 09:35 AM
Ok, I read the article bout the Volkswagen Replica... but what is this? This car is shown in AutoStadt in Wolfsburg (near the Volkswagen factory) since June 2000... Also a replica?

The fourth pic shows the Atlantic which was shown at Essen Motorshow 2004 (and also at some pics in here)

kennyknoxville
03-16-2005, 02:36 PM
will someone sticky this? this car is beautiful

BugattiFan
03-17-2005, 01:43 AM
General Grievous, the ultimate villain in Star Wars Episode 3
and here is his personal space ship...
similar profile design with Bugatti Type 57 Atlantic :)

TIM
03-17-2005, 07:04 AM
There's a saying in Germany: If he (Jean Bugatti) could see this, he would turn around in is grave, most probably even twice!! haha ;) .

drakkie
03-18-2005, 08:26 AM
The fourth pic shows the Atlantic which was shown at Essen Motorshow 2004 (and also at some pics in here)

which is the same as the replica posted earlier. (look at the license plate....)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96745
license plate= DH 00 ??

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89606

license plate = DH 00 79
so, thats the same car :)

netburner
03-28-2005, 02:52 PM
Here are some more pics of the Replica which is owned by Volkswagen.

I made them last Wednesday when I was in Wolfsburg/Germany in there Theme Park called "AutoStadt".

They have a little sign in front of the car (not in the pictures) where they wrote, that the car's chassis is from 1939 and the bodywork from the early 1990's...

netburner
03-28-2005, 02:58 PM
And the last 4.

If you want to have a special pic of that car: I go there nearly every half a year and so I'm able to make some more pics if you want them (only of the bodywork, you're not allowed to open the cars).

Manik
03-28-2005, 10:25 PM
And the last 4.

If you want to have a special pic of that car: I go there nearly every half a year and so I'm able to make some more pics if you want them (only of the bodywork, you're not allowed to open the cars).

Nice photos Netburner, just look at the interior in that thing. I'd imagine when Ettore Bugatti was planning to bring it out he knew it was going to be an instant classic. :D

ZeTurbo
03-29-2005, 09:08 AM
timeless beauty.
this car is IMO one of the best looking cars of the century. if not THE best looking.

BugattiFan
04-02-2005, 12:24 PM
Ok, this car is not a "real" Bug, but we can help to it to imitate :rolleyes:
Personally, I don't like its Passat style (before make-up) head lights, so this is my proposition :) (2 second Paint.exe) :D

575M
04-12-2005, 09:23 AM
Wow!! ;)

SpydarMC
09-25-2005, 07:20 PM
The most recent showing of the Atlantic

These were taken at Dartmouth College at a small car show promoting the Formula SAE race car.

Its great to see these beautys actually driven instead of locked in someone's museum.

greg.harvey
09-26-2005, 05:02 AM
0-60 in ten seconds? That's damned fast for a car built in 1937!

ScionDriver
09-26-2005, 02:03 PM
I freakin' love this car and I had the privlege of seeing Ralph Lauren's at the Boston Art Museum over the summer!

AndyM
09-27-2005, 02:21 PM
Just as a point of clarification, the Lauren car did not win Best of Show at Pebble Beach in 2000. That honor went to Jacque Harguindeguy's 1937 Delahaye 135 M Figoni et Falaschi Cabriolet (see below). Ralph Lauren won Best of Show, his first of two, with the Bugatti Atlantic in 1990.

patolincar
09-27-2005, 09:37 PM
What else can i say??...Great car!!! :D

michael toomey
01-23-2009, 03:47 PM
OK. we know that there's only 3 T57 which are "real"
So dou you have any information about this one?

The photo at the top right is the Peter Williamson Atlantic at the Bugatti featured theme Meadowbrook Concours in the 1990s. This was how it looked for most of its days since he purchased it in the 1960s before its recent restoration. The previous modifications were removed (headlight fairings, enlarged rear windows) and was restored to 1936 or 1938 condition (wheel covers, back to authentic metallic paint and other smaller details). At the time of the auction it was the highest price paid for an automobile (around $60,000).
Michael Toomey

84transam
08-26-2010, 10:48 AM
Now the highest price at an auction is the same car at 30-40 million

henk4
08-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Now the highest price at an auction is the same car at 30-40 million

welcome, the amount is more or less correct, but it was a private deal, not an auction.

johnaustin008
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
Bugatt 57SC Atlantic is one of the best vintage car it is really a car for which peoples are even mad to have it today at any coast....