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Sauc3
08-14-2007, 06:34 AM
From 1951. Excuses about the size, it's perhaps just readable, but I thought it'd be interesting regardless.

Enjoy.

Sauc3
08-14-2007, 06:36 AM
Pegaso Type 102 Brochure #2

Ferrer
08-14-2007, 06:50 AM
Brilliant, thanks for sharing.

dydzi
08-14-2007, 08:16 AM
awesome!

orshow
08-14-2007, 10:38 AM
Nice one sauc3

faksta
08-25-2007, 11:53 AM
WOW thanks a lot, Sauc3!

Manel Barķ
01-29-2009, 12:49 PM
Depicts the very first Z-102 (serial nē ...101), powered by the V8 2.5 litre engine. Unveiled at the Penya Rhin G.P. held in the urban circuit of Pedralbes ( Oct.1951).Later on, received a 2.8 litre powerplant. Dismantled on 1958.

MartB
01-31-2009, 07:14 AM
Thanks a lot. Pagaso are wonderful cars.

henk4
01-31-2009, 01:03 PM
Depicts the very first Z-102 (serial nē ...101), powered by the V8 2.5 litre engine. Unveiled at the Penya Rhin G.P. held in the urban circuit of Pedralbes ( Oct.1951).Later on, received a 2.8 litre powerplant. Dismantled on 1958.
I hate the word "dismantled". Was it a voluntary decision by somebody?

LeonOfTheDead
01-31-2009, 02:27 PM
I hate the word "dismantled". Was it a voluntary decision by somebody?

what about when they dismantled the first carbon fiber road car , the Countach Evoluzione?

Ferrer
01-31-2009, 02:44 PM
I hate the word "dismantled". Was it a voluntary decision by somebody?
Bear in mind that after the Pegaso programme was ended they weren't exactly loved here...

LeonOfTheDead
01-31-2009, 02:51 PM
Bear in mind that after the Pegaso programme was ended they weren't exactly loved here...

what happened? teach me plz:p

Ferrer
01-31-2009, 02:59 PM
what happened? teach me plz:p
In postwar Spain (which was a very poor country indeed) the last people needed was a very expensive sportscar, with (for the mechanics at the time, as Manel hinted in a post) complex engineering. So in the 60's and 70's they were forgotten and neglected.

I wouldn't suprise me if the original Z-102 was dismantled because some parts or materials were needed for something more utilitarian (or perhaps for another Z-102).

LeonOfTheDead
01-31-2009, 03:17 PM
In postwar Spain (which was a very poor country indeed) the last people needed was a very expensive sportscar, with (for the mechanics at the time, as Manel hinted in a post) complex engineering. So in the 60's and 70's they were forgotten and neglected.

I wouldn't suprise me if the original Z-102 was dismantled because some parts or materials were needed for something more utilitarian (or perhaps for another Z-102).

ok, I figured that out, but I thought something more intriguing/telenovelas was going on too. (I'm bored)

Ferrer
01-31-2009, 03:47 PM
ok, I figured that out, but I thought something more intriguing/telenovelas was going on too. (I'm bored)
Nope, I'm afraid not... :p

It is true though that the regime wanted Pegaso to make sportscar at a third of the cost or set up a racing department that would start winning grand prixs immediately.

Ricart on the other hand just intended the programme to train qualified workers by working in advanced sportscars. But when it was clear that it wasn't going anywhere and that they were losing massive amounts of money the ended it in 1957, and concentrated on the much more profitable truck bussiness.

Even so until the very end Ricart tried saving the sportscar division, by introducing the simpler Z-103, with a pushrod V8. But even that wasn't successful.

dydzi
01-31-2009, 04:08 PM
Btw recently i had a pegaso brochure in hand, great piece of literature. The owner didn't want me tobtellnme how much did he pay for but i guess this could've been even thousands of euros...

Manel Barķ
02-01-2009, 06:14 AM
what happened? teach me plz:p
Plain politics.
ENASA was owned by the I.N.I., a copy of the Italian I.R.I. Board of directors was most military. Ricart suggested them a Spanish-made supercar would be a propaganda of great effect for an isolated dictatorship regime.
More likely, Ricart wanted to put his name into automotive history, beside his mentors Dr. Porsche and E. Bugatti, and in the process, create a proper workforce in a creative way. The making of an price-no-object sportscar must be an in-house school for the country future automotive techicians.
The opening of the Spanish goverment to a some younger, civil and economical-oriented people on 1957, marked the end of the car and the power of his creator. Actualy he quit the company soon afterwards in an humble way.

Manel Barķ
02-01-2009, 09:12 AM
I hate the word "dismantled". Was it a voluntary decision by somebody?

Yes indeed. According the contract signed with Carrozzeria Touring,
a last batch of some 12 "Panoramica" bodies were finished and sent to ENASA during in 1955, when the Z-102 line in Barcelona had been "temporary halted to move and resume " in new large Madrid premises. It never was: Later on, these new bodies were filled with internals redundant or coming from previous dismantled cars on a small workshop outside the works. For instance, mechanics of the first unit nē 01 were used to assemble the unit nē 078, one of the several units shown at Pebble Beach on 1994 when the Pegaso was the guest marque.