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piledriver
05-24-2003, 11:39 PM
I Have a video of a race with 6 cars:

2 Mitsubishi Lancer
2 BMW M3
2 Ferrafi 360

Who is the winner?????
:confused:

I bet nobody will tell the right answer....

:cool:

Kossy
05-25-2003, 01:43 AM
If the Ferrafi (;)) didnt win then the driver was a total reject. Otherwise Id say the M3, and if both were total retards then the Lancer EVO.

kinan.f
05-25-2003, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Kossy
If the Ferrafi (;)) didnt win then the driver was a total reject. Otherwise Id say the M3, and if both were total retards then the Lancer EVO.
You're totally right:p

mcbrusen
05-25-2003, 06:03 AM
hehehe... so true..

piledriver
05-26-2003, 03:51 AM
some images...
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/386-4.jpg
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/59-1.jpg
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/194-5.jpg

So, everybody thinks itīs opinion are right??

Hell_Unleashed
05-26-2003, 07:05 AM
So who actually won? Its gotta b the prancin' horse man...

piledriver
05-26-2003, 08:58 AM
when the poll is over, Iīll reveal the winner...
So, post your picks.... or opinion, or wathever you want...
:D

ozi
05-26-2003, 09:33 AM
people who are you kidding? offcourse the evolution is the winner! On motor-vision they tested like a 100 cars on the track and no1 could beat the evo7. Not a single car and they tested 360, m3, sl amg, wrx sti, 550 etc. lancer is definitly the winner in this race.

Hell_Unleashed
05-26-2003, 11:25 AM
The Lancer and Lancer Evolution are two completely different cars man... and nobody said it was an evo "7" so... mayb we should all think again?
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I was walkin along and fell into this s***hole called life...

mcbrusen
05-26-2003, 01:49 PM
we all saw the picture tho :)

ozi
05-26-2003, 02:16 PM
please.... would a normal lancer be able to compete with m3 and f360???! dont think so! its like compareing E-200CDI and E-brabus:rolleyes: :confused: :p

Kudosdude
05-27-2003, 01:38 AM
Where were they racing - The sahara or the street ?
What was the race, long distance or short?
Was it wet or dry?
Was the lancer modified? (I only ask because there has been talk from some quarters that some car manufacturers have modified their "test" cars prior to sending them out)

Go Kossy.

HOW LONG IS A PIECE OF STRING ;)

Hell_Unleashed
05-27-2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by mcbrusen
we all saw the picture tho :)

Umm... the pics were not taken at the race... they "don't" show the cars that were actually racing... jus bcos the pic shows a lancer evo... it doesn't mean that was the car that was racing.

And ozi... ur jus stating the obvious... but i guess so am i... but when piledriver says Mitsubishi Lancer... u know what im talkin about.

mcbrusen
05-27-2003, 06:57 AM
yeah, but it was piledriver who posted the pic of the evo, he would probably post a pic of a normal lancer if that was the one in the race :p and yes im only stating the obvious :) no offence

piledriver
05-27-2003, 08:36 AM
Let me do something I would done before, but I wouldnīt expect so many discussions about what are the exact model of each car...
So... here goes itīs models and specifications...

Lancer GSR (with a great Rear Spoiler - manual transmission and of course 4WD)
280 hp/ 6500rpm
39 kgfm/3500rpm (torque)
1400kg

Lancer GT-A (with small rear spoiler and 4WD)
272 hp/6500rpm
35 kgfm/3000rpm
1480kg

M3 6MT (manual transmission)
343 hp/7900rpm
37,2 kgfm/4900rpm
1550kg

M3 SMG II (automatic transmission - right handed)
343 hp/7900rpm
37,2 kgfm/4900rpm
1550 kg

360 6MT
400 hp/8000rpm
38 kgfm/4750rpm
1430 kg

360 F1
400 hp/8000rpm
38 kgfm/4750rpm
1450 kg

The race is on a dry short road course in Japan, and all the pilots are japanese... :rolleyes:

I have to apologise because I told the lancer is an EVO one, but as you see above, one is a GSR and other a GTA but the GSR really looks like an EVO because its rear spoiler and the engine cover...

And I put a Evo pic in my last reply because I havenīt found another...

with these new parameters, tell us who you think is the winner!!!!
:D

ozi
05-27-2003, 02:41 PM
stil evolutions... japs dont know how to drive italian cars, and m3 has no chanses even if Schumacher drove it

Kudosdude
05-28-2003, 01:32 AM
M3 or Lancer. I'd go with the Lancer as its suspension probably coped with the road irregularities better . . . but that is a guestimate. Ferrari's tend to do better on the longer faster tracks, M3's are better on the smooth.

You cannot underestimate driver skill though. I had a go in a mates lancer VI and managed (on the third run) a better time than him round his farm. He'd been practicing since he got banned.

So go on then . . . who won?

mando
05-28-2003, 01:55 AM
don't forget that the lancer has turbopower wich has a quicker responce then the na engines!!!

greetz mando

piledriver
05-28-2003, 03:52 AM
Today the winner will be revealed....
in 4 hours by now...

Kudosdude
05-28-2003, 04:57 AM
Mando;

:confused:
don't forget that the lancer has turbopower wich has a quicker response then the na engines!!!
:confused:

I don't think so, even including anti lag measures . . ., if you can't get hold of a turbo'd car to "play" with, have a go on any driving sim and "tune up" a turbo'd car. Now watch what happens when you press the go button.

piledriver
05-28-2003, 08:14 AM
So, as I promissed, here goes the result of this so commented race...
1 - Lancer GSR
2 - 360 Modena
3 - M3 MT
4 - Lancer GT-A
5 - 360 F1
6 - M3 SMG II

The total lap of the race was 3"22"82
The fastest lap of the race is 1"05"32 by 360 Modena

What I saw in the race is that the Lancer GSR because of its 4WD had the best handling and cornering. The M3 was mostly of the time understeering because of its RWD, the same occurring sometimes to both 360.
And of course, the turbo of the Lancer helped it a lot because its torque is the greatest of all cars and brought in low engine speeds....

Kudosdude
05-28-2003, 08:37 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing that race - it was nice to know that the Ferrari was the fastest . . . even if it didn't win.

Who were the drivers? Joe bloggs from the street, or racing/test drivers?

(P.S. Cars can be set up to Over or understeer, it has nothing to do with whether they are 4 wheeldrive, rear wheel drive, or front wheeldrive)

Hell_Unleashed
05-28-2003, 12:29 PM
Interesting... very interesting.

mando
05-28-2003, 01:43 PM
@Kudosdude: I ment that turbo is faster!!!

greetz mando

ozi
05-28-2003, 02:28 PM
oh i was right:D

speaking of raceing... i crashed my ford fiesta xr2 today while driving an auto-slalom competition. some jerk went on the track to put up the thingy which you go around(dont know the eng word) and i had to break so i wouldnt run over him and crashed into the fence in the side of the track... idiot:mad: :mad: :mad:

Kudosdude
05-29-2003, 12:59 AM
bad luck ozi - (did you mean cone?)

Hell_Unleashed
05-29-2003, 02:41 AM
Mayb u shouldve jus run him over >>> one less idiot in the world... and... things like this would happen less too. But I bet you weren't thinking about that... You were trying to "save" the idiot... hehehe.... im jus trippin man... idiots deserve to live too...

ozi
05-29-2003, 08:22 AM
yes the cone- thanx... well im not good in killing people. the organisation was hell...