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Coventrysucks
04-26-2004, 04:59 PM
I am not against speed or racing as such, however I do find that there seems to be a great deal of acceptance of street racing.

Things like "fast and the furious", and Need for Speed Underground seem to be actively encouraging young people to buy a fast car, take it onto the street, and race/ drive fast.

I think this is very irresponsible, as for the most part I doubt whether many young people in this target age (new drivers - late teens early twenties) that have had any specialised training in driving a car at high speed.
This age group is also the least likely to use their common sense, there are some occasions where it is possible to drive fast on the roads, providing the conditions are right, and you don't get caught. ;)

Around here some people in their maxxed up hatches like to drive around at the highest speed possible, mostly on "deserted" residential roads at night, usually the same time that all the people staggering home from the pub are walking home, along the very same roads.

The other night someone went past my window on the limiter :eek: , before slamming on the brakes, locking up and sliding to a halt. :rolleyes: (30mph limit)

Do you think that illeagal street racing should be encouraged by popular culture?
Is there a problem in your area?
Are you in favour of street racing for whatever reason?
Fire away!
:)

werty
04-26-2004, 05:04 PM
street racing is dangerous, but it will never be stopped
i say if your going to street race, where protective fireproof suits and a helmet
second, only race where you know there aren't other people around

carlover
04-26-2004, 05:07 PM
I think street racing is dumb. Why risk your live when you can go to a track and have just as much fun safely (and legally)?

werty
04-26-2004, 05:10 PM
very true, but i think for the street racers its abut the money, and the thrill of breaking the law has alot to do with it

NoOne
04-26-2004, 05:10 PM
I'm totally against it, I was part of the scene quite a while.

Great thread located HERE (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1740&highlight=street+racing)

Coventrysucks
04-26-2004, 05:44 PM
I'm totally against it, I was part of the scene quite a while.

Great thread located HERE (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1740&highlight=street+racing)

Cheers, missed that one! :)

kitkat
04-27-2004, 02:55 AM
you won't stop street racing completly you can only reduce it. you need bigger fines, more demerit points on you driver license, immediate license suspension for a full year, immediate confiscation of car for a full year (whether your the owner or not). it still a problem in vancouver.

eyebrows
04-27-2004, 03:25 AM
i think the biggest thing is the fact that it is illegal because how many people go to a track day Vs a road drag race? its a stupid thing to do and things like Fast and the furious and NFSU are all riding on the back of it not thinking about how they are encouraging it. there just following the current rages and still the original NFS's were all road races and the only difference is that this one has the car usually associated with illegal street racing. either way i think that the produces of these movies and games should be more responsible and put warnings on their games/movies much the same way that wrestling has its warnings (ie don't try this at home). they should try and make the distinguishing factor of games Vs reality.

whiteballz
04-27-2004, 03:29 AM
(crisis) i read your post from the other thread, im sorry for him.

(N0one) i feel shocked at what that F**KING steath driver said, i too would have tried (because i cant fight) to beat the living s**t out of him. i think you did the right thing by trying to help her, i really feel sorry for her, and the possible trauma from that incident. it is a really powerful story, all i know is i will never street race, not even on a highway, even if i were in a tank.

i appologise for the profanity, but i belive it suits the mood of me right now.

i severely oppose street racing. i know for a fact that at least 50% of males in my classes would take their future first car (hotted up gemini's/ commodores/ fords etc) and race given a chance. they deserve to crash into a light pole doing 20 km/h! wreck their little sound systems!

byronleehk
04-27-2004, 09:46 AM
Put those "Street Racers" on a track and see how they'll do...think they'll know how to attack a corner? apex? breaking? not to mention how to set up the car for the track (and that's NOT riceing it - riceing, is that a word :p )?

Coventrysucks
04-27-2004, 12:08 PM
... there just following the current rages and still the original NFS's were all road races and the only difference is that this one has the car usually associated with illegal street racing. either way i think that the produces of these movies and games should be more responsible and put warnings on their games/movies much the same way that wrestling has its warnings (ie don't try this at home). they should try and make the distinguishing factor of games Vs reality.

It is strange, I have never really thought that the first NFS games encouraged road racing, I always considered they were more of a 'fantasy' game, as not many people are going to own a McLaren F1, Ferrari F50 etc, so the game was allowing you to pretend you did.
I suppose NFS underground has an element of that, but it only features cars that are more accessible to the people more likely to go out racing.

There is a difference between racing an F50 in a game, then going out to drive a focus, and racing a focus in a game and then going out to drive a focus. If you see what I mean. ;)

I don't really think that a simple warning will stop everyone, most sensible people aren't going to try it any way. :)

Smoke
04-27-2004, 01:40 PM
There won't be a way to stop street racing completely.the only way to actually get close to getting rid of it is to have more cops patrolling the same area, and have harsher penalties......Just my opinion...

Coventrysucks
04-27-2004, 02:53 PM
I think that street racing will be very hard to stop completely.

However, if people were taught to be responsible for their actions, rather than blameing everyone else, and were properly taught the consequences of their actions, I think that there could be a significant reduction in the number of street racing instances.

KnifeEdge_2K1
04-30-2004, 05:07 PM
I think street racing is dumb. Why risk your live when you can go to a track and have just as much fun safely (and legally)?

well said very well said

i think that films like fast and furious and need for speed should take responsibility for what might happen due to their audience. I myself am 16 and was very tempted to buy a manual transmission car and learn to "drift" after watching initial d but unlike most people my age i have the balls or well lack of to realize that this shit is actually life threatening stuff.

I still want to learn to drive a manual transmission but not for the foolish reasons my schoolmates and friends do. driving a car is a privilage not a right. no one has the right to abuse it and endanger the lives of yourself passengers and fellow drivers

btw the reason why i still wanna drive stick is cuz my dad dont know how so when i get a car he wont be able to drive it (he really REALLY bad driver like ... mr bean bad)

eyebrows
05-01-2004, 02:29 AM
It is strange, I have never really thought that the first NFS games encouraged road racing, I always considered they were more of a 'fantasy' game, as not many people are going to own a McLaren F1, Ferrari F50 etc, so the game was allowing you to pretend you did.
I suppose NFS underground has an element of that, but it only features cars that are more accessible to the people more likely to go out racing.

There is a difference between racing an F50 in a game, then going out to drive a focus, and racing a focus in a game and then going out to drive a focus. If you see what I mean. ;)

I don't really think that a simple warning will stop everyone, most sensible people aren't going to try it any way. :)

i understand where ur comin from i was just making the point that it is only the cars they use in the current NFS that has you all talkin and all the games are on the road. as for the warning, well i was cought up in the moment but it may have some effect but things like bigger fines and more demerit points taken and a lot more police officers on the road would do a lot in stopping ppl from doing stupid things on the road. and also to KnifeEdge_2K1 there isn't any thing wrong with learning how to drift but there is a lot wrong with doing it on the road.

mulan
05-01-2004, 06:06 AM
ok street racing isnt gunna stop its getting bigger and when street racing was underground no 1 was botherd as for street racers on the track i know alot of people that street race and regulay attend track days and knowing all about apexes and clipping points brakeing areas ect but like u others have said its about the thril of the road the none perfect road surfeces to prove ure self the Girls also it is entertaining to watch i have an oppinian on crashing to becouse is was lees than a ft away from having no legs left the other day when some bloke in a brand new mazda 6 and some ned racer crashed but i belive in diffrent things to the rest of u. also dont u think alot of the cars look outstanding but the things i object to is the speedo pics in max power thes are all taken on the road and some cars are doing like 160-200+ mph

Falcon500
05-02-2004, 04:27 AM
Your an idiot! As interesting as it may be to whatch someon isalways at risk..and without proper supervision likeat a race track asmall incidentcan turn fatal very quick...i hope for your own sake one day you grow up....

Matra et Alpine
05-02-2004, 05:05 AM
ok street racing isnt gunna stop its getting bigger and when street racing was underground no 1 was botherd
Of course they were bothered you prat !!!!
it just didn't get as much notice and publicity as now it is more "popular" and mroe idiots think they're the next great racer with their riced-out cars looking crap but "fantastic" in their sad little eyes.

as for street racers on the track i know alot of people that street race and regulay attend track days and knowing all about apexes and clipping points brakeing areas ect
and I've met them ON track too.
They're usually the idiots who spin off on first laps or try to overtake a Porsche in braking :)
Seen many a fancy car with skirts, wings and LOTS of money spent plough into the back of a Lotus7s because they didn't accept that other cars could out-perform there pile of sh!t.
THAT is the mindset that this generation of street-racing wannabees :
There's a WHOLE lot of difference abouit knowing and doing !!

but like u others have said its about the thril of the road the none perfect road surfeces to prove ure self the Girls also it is entertaining to watch
Can't get away from that. There is a morbid side to all of us that waits for the big crash in any sport.
Fortunately, we were given a higher intelligence than animals and are able to rationalise the dangers and accept that it isn't worth it. Some weren't :)

i have an oppinian on crashing to becouse is was lees than a ft away from having no legs left the other day when some bloke in a brand new mazda 6 and some ned racer crashed but i belive in diffrent things to the rest of u.
Suggest you join the forces or take up cave-diving as a sport and THEN come and tell us that you believe in different things. Until you've taken it to THAT kind of life or death limit ON YOUR OWN with only YOU at risk. THEN I'll listen to your rationalisation of your beliefs.

also dont u think alot of the cars look outstanding but the things i object to is the speedo pics in max power thes are all taken on the road and some cars are doing like 160-200+ mph
We agree on the last point . NOT the looking good, I'm a performance and machanics man, if it has a purpose and works better than have it. All else is playing with Barbie and dressing-up :) )

Coventrysucks
05-02-2004, 05:29 AM
How the hell can any car in Max Power do 160+ mph, they are all bloody Saxos and Novas, with huge drag inducing spoilers :confused:

ZerK
05-02-2004, 09:19 AM
Street racing is one of the most dangerous ways possible to publicly say 'I am a mindless twat'.

These guys tear around housing estates with narrow roads, where little kids are playing in the road, people are walking beside the road, and there are plenty of other cars coming in the opposite direction (going at a resonable speed), with their Mega-Super-Hyper-Gazook-Bass playing mind-numbingly repetitive doof doof music, and with their fart-cannon exhaust tips making an extremely un-powerful sounding phut phut noise. And they think they're cool.

Your Nova sucks. Get over it!

ZerK
05-02-2004, 09:24 AM
...some ned racer crashed...

It was you wasn't it ;)


in max power thes are all taken on the road and some cars are doing like 160-200+ mph

No matter how much nitrous (I belive the 'correct' term is NAWZZ) you pump though and however many fake exhausts (not to mention the four-foot high wing) you put on a '90 Fiesta, it is no way in hell gonna do 100mph, never mind getting on for 200.

Coventrysucks
05-02-2004, 11:07 AM
...where little kids are playing in the road...

If you have children, let them play in the garden (yard), or in a park, or somwhere in an open space. :)

The road is for cars, maybe in the 1950's when cars were not as prevelant, it was ok to let kids play there, but now when nearly everyone has a car, it just isn't possible, or sensible to do so in most areas.

Especially if you know there are going to be boy racers about :rolleyes:

ZerK
05-03-2004, 02:29 AM
If you have children, let them play in the garden (yard), or in a park, or somwhere in an open space. :)

The road is for cars, maybe in the 1950's when cars were not as prevelant, it was ok to let kids play there, but now when nearly everyone has a car, it just isn't possible, or sensible to do so in most areas.

Especially if you know there are going to be boy racers about :rolleyes:

In housing estates where people shouldn't be going any faster than 10-15mph, there are always kids playing out in the street, and it should be safe if people drive at a decent speed.

fordfan2
05-03-2004, 02:58 AM
I am totally against street racing as not only is it extremely dangerous but whats the point when you can go to your local drag strip and race under controled conditions. Sure it'll cost you a few extra bucks but if you've got a fast car and want to not crash it's well worth not having to pay that massive speeding fine!!!

byronleehk
05-03-2004, 08:53 AM
Of course they were bothered you prat !!!!
it just didn't get as much notice and publicity as now it is more "popular" and mroe idiots think they're the next great racer with their riced-out cars looking crap but "fantastic" in their sad little eyes.

and I've met them ON track too.
They're usually the idiots who spin off on first laps or try to overtake a Porsche in braking :)
Seen many a fancy car with skirts, wings and LOTS of money spent plough into the back of a Lotus7s because they didn't accept that other cars could out-perform there pile of sh!t.
THAT is the mindset that this generation of street-racing wannabees :
There's a WHOLE lot of difference abouit knowing and doing !!

Can't get away from that. There is a morbid side to all of us that waits for the big crash in any sport.
Fortunately, we were given a higher intelligence than animals and are able to rationalise the dangers and accept that it isn't worth it. Some weren't :)

Suggest you join the forces or take up cave-diving as a sport and THEN come and tell us that you believe in different things. Until you've taken it to THAT kind of life or death limit ON YOUR OWN with only YOU at risk. THEN I'll listen to your rationalisation of your beliefs.

We agree on the last point . NOT the looking good, I'm a performance and machanics man, if it has a purpose and works better than have it. All else is playing with Barbie and dressing-up :) )

Mulan,

I suggest you listen to Matra, he's a REAL racer and he've done it the correct way . :)

BTW, you've got any track time under your belt? Just wondering...

mulan
05-07-2004, 04:01 AM
ok proper non kev cars can go over 200+ look at andy barnes skyline or jamie shaws tvr cerbra these easly go over 200+ theres evan fwd cars that come close to 180 look at andy nicouls miestro turbo so these cars burn off ure shit heap ferrari's oh look this 1 has 500 bhp ****ing bolleck i hate all feerias skylines with over 1000bhp u get ferraris any were near this look at the rs 200 450bhp and itl will take any thing from the lights ure all nobodys

Matra et Alpine
05-07-2004, 04:25 AM
ok proper non kev cars can go over 200+ look at andy barnes skyline or jamie shaws tvr cerbra these easly go over 200+ theres evan fwd cars that come close to 180 look at andy nicouls miestro turbo so these cars burn off ure shit heap ferrari's
you're comparing an expeively modified car with a stock Ferrari.
Don't you see the error in that ??

oh look this 1 has 500 bhp ****ing bolleck i hate all feerias skylines with over 1000bhp u get ferraris any were near this look at the rs 200 450bhp and itl will take any thing from the lights ure all nobodys
Well if you only want to take them at lights on street legal cars then you need to open your eyes to the Tiger Z-100. Got the record for STREET 0-60 in production car :)
No expensive big aftermarket efforts or huge technology to boost power.
Other than that I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Please don't be so abusive, it only amplifies the image of ignorance you are creating in everyone who reads your posts.

Falcon500
05-07-2004, 05:59 AM
Is this idiot still here? and he still cant spell? and he still doesnt say anything relivent?
If you have nothing relivent to say DONT SAY IT...
Its that easy :)

Coventrysucks
05-11-2004, 09:38 PM
The thought occurs:

The response to the Street Racing threads have been mostly negative ...

What do people think of the Gumball Rally?

Is it ok to "race" illegally so long as you are doing it in a $100,000+ car?

Doing well over 100mph at times, often with little sleep.

The casualty list so far this year is quite small:
A Murcielago crashed into a truck, a 360 spyder hit a tractor, and the Reyland Escort Cosworth left the road and flipped at 120mph. :eek:

From seeing pictures of the 'rrari and the Reyland car, they are very lucky to have escaped uninjured, as are the people in other vehicles on the road at the time.

DasModell
05-12-2004, 01:14 AM
if it;s illegal .. then is NOT OK ..

Fowler
05-31-2004, 11:41 AM
its one of the most idiotic things you can possibly do with a car imo. there's too many things that can and WILL go wrong. deer crossing the road, that car comming up around the bend, a wee little bump in the road, the list goes on and on. i have no remorse for these crazies, tho.