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thanos
04-27-2004, 06:18 AM
:confused: Which is better in your opinion :
1)ferrari
2)porsche

DarkPhenix
04-27-2004, 06:19 AM
i like ferrari but porsche it's very good too...

ferrari... :rolleyes:

Sweeney921
04-27-2004, 06:21 AM
ferrari, by a lot

thanos
04-27-2004, 06:27 AM
:rolleyes: THANK YOU.I couldn't choose and you helped me. :cool:

stratos
04-27-2004, 06:38 AM
Ferrari !!! ;)

Coventrysucks
04-27-2004, 07:06 AM
:rolleyes: THANK YOU.I couldn't choose and you helped me. :cool:

Choose for what?

I think Ferrari has a better history, and a greater number of good cars to its name, but I think the current porsche lineup is better, except the cayenne

ZerK
04-27-2004, 09:27 AM
Italian passion...

...German engineering...

...can I have one of each?

Cotterik
04-27-2004, 10:25 AM
I love both!! especially the 550 gt an the 911 gt2 ( in black :D )

By the way if anyone has any Porshce 911 gt2 photos in black id be realy gratefull if you could post them here. Thanx.

Ferrari Tifosi
04-27-2004, 01:04 PM
I like Ferrari better for multiple reasons, but the biggest being the fact that the only reason for their exsistence as a manufacturer is to go racing. I love that fact!

speedyone
04-27-2004, 01:05 PM
Porsche has some great neww cars coming out soon, i think you should wait then reconsider!

speedyone
04-27-2004, 01:07 PM
Porsche has some brilliant new cars coming out in the next year so i think youshould wait then reconsider!

Coventrysucks
04-27-2004, 02:17 PM
I like Ferrari better for multiple reasons, but the biggest being the fact that the only reason for their exsistence as a manufacturer is to go racing. I love that fact!

I doubt that, otherwise the wouldn't have made the 612 Spagetti.
They must have some commercial incentive to go on. :)

GT500
04-27-2004, 04:32 PM
Porsches generally have better value, but Ferraris have the luxury, and who could forget the prancing horse (it adds 50 horses....talk about compression!)? For example, a GT3 is faster than a 360 Chalenge Stradale, not by much, but it is. However, the sticker is about 40% less than the Ferrari's. The Ferrari, on the other hand, has better slalom speed, much more luxury, and Pininfarina looks. It really depends on what you want, but if your moolah is limited, GT3 would be the better choice.

Ferrari Tifosi
04-28-2004, 12:11 PM
I doubt that, otherwise the wouldn't have made the 612 Spagetti.
They must have some commercial incentive to go on. :)

You misunderstood me. What I'm saying is that Ferrari builds road going vehicles to raise money to race. That's how it was started and has stayed for 50+ years.

werty
05-03-2004, 04:13 PM
i love porsche, but they only make one ultimate supercar, the GT
but Ferrari has 3 ultimate supercars f40/f50/enzo

i think Ferrari makes better cars :cool:

Ferrari Tifosi
05-03-2004, 04:38 PM
i love porsche, but they only make one ultimate supercar, the GT
but Ferrari has 3 ultimate supercars f40/f50/enzo

i think Ferrari makes better cars :cool:

You don't consider the 959 as a supercar of its time?!?!?!

werty
05-03-2004, 05:55 PM
You don't consider the 959 as a supercar of its time?!?!?!
there is a difference between ultimate supercar and supercar
yes the 959 is a supercar, but it doesn't compare to the Porsche GT

carlover
05-03-2004, 06:42 PM
there is a difference between ultimate supercar and supercar
yes the 959 is a supercar, but it doesn't compare to the Porsche GT
But the 959 was built 20 years ago, and it still (way) outperformes a lot of supercars today! :eek:

Ferrari Tifosi
05-04-2004, 02:04 AM
But the 959 was built 20 years ago, and it still (way) outperformes a lot of supercars today! :eek:

Exactly, it perfomed very well compared to the F40 (its competitor of the day). If you compare the Carrera GT to the Enzo, the difference is close to the 959's and the F40's. :D

werty
05-04-2004, 09:18 AM
Exactly, it perfomed very well compared to the F40 (its competitor of the day). If you compare the Carrera GT to the Enzo, the difference is close to the 959's and the F40's. :D

true, but was it considered an exotic like the F40, did it get as much attention as the F40?

Ferrari Tifosi
05-04-2004, 10:55 AM
true, but was it considered an exotic like the F40, did it get as much attention as the F40?

Yes, it was considered MORE exotic than the F40, as the 959 used F1 technology of the time and exotic metals, etc.

werty
05-04-2004, 03:33 PM
Yes, it was considered MORE exotic than the F40, as the 959 used F1 technology of the time and exotic metals, etc.

wasn't the F40 F1 technology

side question: what exotic metals were used on the 959?

Ferrari Tifosi
05-04-2004, 03:53 PM
wasn't the F40 F1 technology

side question: what exotic metals were used on the 959?

Not exactly sure on the side question. The F40 used F1 technology slightly, but not the extent that the 959 did. The F40 was more of an all out light, powerful, street car.

werty
05-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Not exactly sure on the side question. The F40 used F1 technology slightly, but not the extent that the 959 did. The F40 was more of an all out light, powerful, street car.
can you back that up with proof?

Ferrari Tifosi
05-04-2004, 05:18 PM
Porsche 959: F1 derived suspension, Kevlar and rare aluminum alloy body, monocoque chassis, Nikasil use, etc.

Ferrari F40: Double Wishbone independent suspension, Tubular Space Frame chassis, Kevlar body.

You make the decision.

werty
05-04-2004, 06:05 PM
i already have, i beleive the 959 is a supercar and the F40 is an exotic

doylede
05-07-2004, 09:17 PM
You misunderstood me. What I'm saying is that Ferrari builds road going vehicles to raise money to race. That's how it was started and has stayed for 50+ years.

I agree. Ferrari has always been about the racing. Back in 63-64, Ford almost closed a deal to buy Ferrari. Henry Ford III met with Enzo in Italy to finalize the sale. Enzo agreed with all the terms, but then said that he would keep the racing.

Henry objected and Enzo said "You know nothing about racing!". This pissed Henry off, killed the deal, and was the cause of the Ford GT40 which beat Ferrari for four years in a row at LeMans.

So, is Ferrari better than Porsche? Yes
But, history says Ferrari isn't better than Ford.

The real truth is that the only thing better than cubic inches is cubic money. ;)

Foxbat
05-11-2004, 05:49 AM
Not exactly sure on the side question. The F40 used F1 technology slightly, but not the extent that the 959 did. The F40 was more of an all out light, powerful, street car.

I could be mistaken, but afaik Porsche last built an F1 car in the early sixties :D. So to say that the 959 uses 'F1 technology' is imho not entirely correct, more appropriate would be sportscar* technology like the Ferrari GTO's.

* or even Rally technology :) Because that is where the 959 scored it's only major succes. Would be kinda appropriate as well, since the 4WD is the most advanced part of the car and that is nowhere more at home than on the rally track.

For a nice article that has stats for both cars compiled from several sources, plus a summary of the test with both cars done for Autocar comparing the F40 and 959 look here: http://autozine.kyul.net/959/959_9.htm (or just read Autozine's complete 959 story, starting here: http://autozine.kyul.net/959/959_1.htm ).

mattgras1124
05-19-2004, 07:41 PM
Porsche!!!!!! I have a 1980 targa that I dropped a racing modified carrera engine in.

Guibo
05-20-2004, 01:33 AM
I think Porsche's history is arguably every bit as good as Ferrari's. They might not have excelled at F1, but look at their successes elsewhere:
24 Hours of Le Mans
24 Hours of Daytona
12 Hours of Sebring
24 Hours of Nurburgring
Targa Florio
Paris-Dakar

Hard to say that Ferrari's road car sales today are as influential in their racing campaigns, as it has been in the past. Not with the huge sponsorship deals, licensing rights, possible income from parent company FIAT, etc.

Overall, I'd say Porsche is the better company. A more diverse product range, allowing not just the super-rich to enjoy what it means to drive a sports car. And a history of very good build quality that Ferrari has only just approached in the past half decade or so.
But I'd take an Enzo over the Carrera GT anyday.

nikola scg
06-06-2005, 09:21 AM
porsche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

spi-ti-tout
06-06-2005, 09:43 AM
porsche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
Say nicola, where are you from?

targa
06-06-2005, 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikola scg
yes!! ha ha ha ha FERRARI IS CRAP!!!PORSCHE RULES

KELSA
06-06-2005, 10:26 PM
quanlity of car & engineering, plus everyday driverability & economical scale, Porsche;

turn heads, show off, pick up hot chicks, wife divorcing you, Ferrari.

Piacki_117
06-07-2005, 08:44 AM
I say : Porsche

lukeh
06-07-2005, 08:54 AM
go for the German Technology.

sunk
06-09-2005, 08:40 AM
Porsche. Simple as that.
It takes fabulous engineering to score over 32,000 race victories around the world. And besides who can deny that 917, 962 or 911 were bad cars.

QuattroMan
06-09-2005, 08:49 AM
Italian passion...

...German engineering...

...can I have one of each?


LOL!!!!! I like that, If you got the money,must have cars Ferrari and Porsche. :)

QuattroMan
06-09-2005, 08:50 AM
:confused: Which is better in your opinion :
1)ferrari
2)porsche
thanos,,, is that your audi on your avatar???

americanmohit
06-10-2005, 10:57 AM
Porsche is a very good car with its good style, performance etc. Also, some of new porsche will be coming in future. Currently the new one is Cayman S.

Godlaus
06-10-2005, 11:02 AM
Chicken leg shifter or Paddle-shifter?
CGT or Enzo?
Silver or Red?
V10 or V12?

Gar, gotta go with the Enzo.

Gal_TT
06-10-2005, 11:45 AM
It depends in which class.
Carrera GT or Enzo? ----> Carrera GT
911 Turbo or F360? ----> F360
GT3 RS or 360 CS? -----> 360 CS
Boxter or 612?LOL -----> Boxter

Overall I think I'll take Ferrari.

andy.muc
06-10-2005, 12:04 PM
One of my fav Porsches is the 993 Turbo. And one of my fav Ferraris is the 355.
So if it's between these two i'd have to go with Ferrari.

#edit:
Taking the whole company image into decision i would say Porsche wins the emotional bonus.
Sure the Ferrari history is one of a kind but the whole Fiat thing affect my view on Ferrari.
Porsche is still standing all alone with no affiliated group to back them up. That's kinda respectable these days...

forza_autodelta
06-10-2005, 01:02 PM
Porsche for me too , to represent the spirit of the 917 K and LH:)

hanz blix
06-10-2005, 08:25 PM
ferrari, f430 best car ever. white with red interior mmmmmmm

Birdman
06-11-2005, 01:15 AM
Porsche. No matter where they go they are always competitive.

dave_fonz_164
08-18-2005, 02:10 PM
hands down Ferrari. They are making some of the best machines in the world with quality engineering ex: 430 and 430 spider, their dynamics are almost identical, and that new 430 with its ediff and v8 is an awesome entry level car, porsche's 911 is rather familiar and basic in its approach, albeit very durable and usable, its just getting long in the tooth......rather have a Maserati Gransport over a 911 if you ask me.....

all of Ferrari's cars are extremely capable now, from the 430 to the 612,they can be used on a regular basis without too much worry.

IWantAnAudiRS6
08-18-2005, 02:12 PM
Porsche ownz. No problemo. Ferrari is for ponces like Michael Shumacher, whilst Porsche is for kings of cool.

KELSA
08-18-2005, 03:09 PM
when it comes down to buying something like that, its all comes down to personalities. there is no definite good or better. they say german engineering is suppose to be the best, i test driven a 997 carrera, the interior made out cheap plastic which i didn't like, consistantly making plastic bashing noises from the dashboard while driving. through the car it self is nicer to drive than a 360. Sat in a few Ferraris, they felt great, better than any porsche in my opinion. yet to drive one to actually say the difference, but from various owners, as a daily car, they'll take the porsches, ferrari is just something you drive around the weekend.

dave_fonz_164
08-18-2005, 03:27 PM
"ferrari is a scaled down version of God
porsche is a jumped up Volkswagen"

J.C.

Bob
08-18-2005, 03:37 PM
Porsche= Usable power incredible handling and better track times

Esperante
08-18-2005, 03:43 PM
Porsche;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

sniper112
08-18-2005, 04:17 PM
Porsche

Dino Scuderia
08-18-2005, 04:20 PM
Ferrari, more variety of cars and racing history, never boring.

Cotterik
08-18-2005, 04:42 PM
in my opinion both are overrated and sometimes people forget there are far better cars than ferraris or porsches. Id choose a hundred cars before any ferrari or porsche.

Manik
08-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Both porsche and Ferrari have amazing performance stats. But in my honest opinion the porsche doesn't just have the looks. They just can't match Ferrari's looks.

So, Ferrari;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

sunk
08-24-2005, 08:15 AM
Both porsche and Ferrari have amazing performance stats. But in my honest opinion the porsche doesn't just have the looks. They just can't match Ferrari's looks.

So, Ferrari;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Fanboy !!!

6'bore
08-24-2005, 08:27 AM
Fanboy !!!

How does that make him a fanboy? It is just his personal opinion. I'll take Ferrari aswell, more "wow" factor.

John Wain
08-24-2005, 12:52 PM
This is hard to say. It mainly depends on the amount of money each of them costs. For a Ferrari Enzo, you'd have to pay $ 650.000, while for a Porsche GT2, just about $ 180.000. But, in terms of brute performance, the Ferrari models are better.
You'd also want to consider the amount of room each of the two brands has: for a Ferrari, generally 2 seats, while a Porsche usually has 4 - an advantage you can't deny.
Then, it also matters what you want to do with the car, where you want to take it. For example, the Porsche Cayenne is much better for a family going to the mountain than a Ferrari 360 Modena, say.
So, to conclude; if you have lots of money and you are a celebrity, you should have both brands in your garage. If not, go for the Porsche.

kennyknoxville
08-25-2005, 12:23 PM
ferrari no contest

sunk
08-27-2005, 09:56 PM
when it comes down to buying something like that, its all comes down to personalities. there is no definite good or better. they say german engineering is suppose to be the best, i test driven a 997 carrera, the interior made out cheap plastic which i didn't like, consistantly making plastic bashing noises from the dashboard while driving. through the car it self is nicer to drive than a 360.
If it were only about interoirs then a Toyata Camry could beat a Porsche.

piston_burner
08-27-2005, 10:55 PM
Porsche is better in my opinion because it they have built some of the best performance cars for the money for decades. As much as I admire supercars, I am more impressed when a company can deliver great performance that is with in reach of many peoples budgets.

Porsche has won more professional races then Ferrari. The range of those victories include classes where the cars are basically stock all the way up to Group C / GTP cars. Ferrari has a ton F-1 victories, but I believe it says a lot about a company when you win a wide range of types of races. In sports car racing which is closer to what the production cars are like, Porsche has a much longer list of victories.

When you look at quality, Porsche has been a leader for decades. Ferrari quality at times has been a bit off. Most of Porsche models are very fast and can be used as a daily driver. Ferrari does do great work and Porsche has had a couple of dogs, such as the 924.

Ferrari wins when it comes to style. Few Porsches really have jaw dropping style. I did think the second generation of the GT1 was great looking and so is the Carrera GT. When you start talking about the great looking Ferrari models, the list is very long.

Both companies are focused on performance. I know Porsche made an SUV, but it was the fastest the SUV in production and made Porsche a lot of money which helps to fund their street car and race car efforts. I found the styling kind of ugly at first and now it is just okay. I doubt it will ever look good to me no matter how many times I look at it.

Both companies deserve a lot of respect, but if I had to rank one over the other, it would be Porsche above Ferrari, but not by much.

KELSA
08-28-2005, 12:38 AM
If it were only about interoirs then a Toyata Camry could beat a Porsche.

not when a salesman telling you how perfect the porsche interior is.

KELSA
08-28-2005, 12:49 AM
I did think the second generation of the GT1 was great looking and so is the Carrera GT. .

AMEN to that!

the 993 Seris 2 GT1 is the best in my mind, followed by Carrera GT

oodis
08-28-2005, 02:35 AM
i wouldnt compare ferrari to porsche anymore.

porsche should be compared to mercedes and BMW these days (still pissed off at the cayenne and cayman) :p

piston_burner
08-28-2005, 10:41 PM
i wouldnt compare ferrari to porsche anymore.

porsche should be compared to mercedes and BMW these days (still pissed off at the cayenne and cayman) :p

Considering the price range Porsche sells to, I guess you would have to compare Porsche to a group of FIAT brands like Maserati, Lancia, and Ferrari. There are many ways to view the companies. I think it is easier to compare model vs model them company versus company.

Radoman
08-28-2005, 11:20 PM
What's wrong with the Cayman? It's just a coupe version of the Boxter.

Anyways, I vote Porsche.

oodis
08-29-2005, 02:54 AM
Considering the price range Porsche sells to, I guess you would have to compare Porsche to a group of FIAT brands like Maserati, Lancia, and Ferrari. There are many ways to view the companies. I think it is easier to compare model vs model them company versus company.

True that model vs. model should be compared. I just lost my interest in porsche cause of their Suv and their Cayman....now you wont get that feeling of 'Driving a Porsche' cause they are no different now to Mercedes or BMW. It's a different case with Ferrari. Look at the Maserati quattroporte, i can never say thats a ferrari just cause the FIAT group owns maserati and ferrari, its a car of its own. if porsche made a new line that makes SUVs and trucks and sedans then it would be better then badging them as a porsche which just puts all that heritage and history down the drain. This is just my opinion, i am sure no one here will care about what i say anyway.

Radoman- I just dont like the fact porsche are making cheaper (in price) cars. It takes out the whole exclusivity of owning a porsche when you see too many of them on the road. Just like how many toyotas you see on the road, you will then start seeing more and more porsches. The cayenne before, the cayman now, and the Panamera Later.