PDA

View Full Version : what do u think of the new SS wagon?



holdenluvr
05-26-2003, 08:01 PM
i think it looks pretty good................

crisis
05-27-2003, 12:06 AM
If you like wagons and want one with a bit of grunt, its the only choice around. Looks pretty good for a wagon.

fpv_gtho
05-27-2003, 02:07 AM
thats the thing, not many people like wagons anymore.

crisis
05-27-2003, 04:44 PM
You see enough of them "done up" with alloys and lowered etc. They will sell the 5000 of these they are making no problem.

badboybarge
05-27-2003, 05:49 PM
i don't have a holden but if i was to get one i'd probly get a wagon, they're much better looking, especially the new SS wagon, rather sexy!

motormaniac
05-29-2003, 12:06 AM
looks cool

crisis
05-29-2003, 12:10 AM
I got carried away. I think its 500 not 5000 they are making.

motormaniac
05-29-2003, 12:18 AM
so little"???

fpv_gtho
05-30-2003, 10:58 PM
its only a special edition thing so what did u expect

motormaniac
05-30-2003, 11:37 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhh

motorhead
06-13-2003, 11:18 PM
rs4 rival - nope

crisis
06-15-2003, 07:30 PM
It would destroy an RS4 if you spent the money on mods you saved by buying this instead. Unfair comparison. Im sure an A8 would crap on a SS as well.

motorhead
06-18-2003, 12:07 AM
yeah it is - but anyway i think holden should think about targetting audi in the wagon sector - it is hell of a task for them but it can be done - with a lot of difficulties

crisis
06-18-2003, 12:12 AM
It would have cost Holden very little to produce these. Everything is out of the SS sedan parts bin. The most expensive part would have been printing the brochures. To "take on" Audi in this or any sector would be fighting outside their weight division. Despite what Holden come up with in some instances, they are mearly extracting the maximum diversification out of what is a basic family sedan.

motorhead
06-18-2003, 12:23 AM
allright got your point - but wouldn't be nice if they competed with audi - not with this but maybe another new wagon

crisis
06-18-2003, 12:48 AM
Like this?

DamoNismo
06-20-2003, 09:31 AM
Verrr Nice. What do you guys think of the Monaro? I've seen it beat a Porshe 911. Went to the Adelaide car show this year... the new SS is damn sweet. So is the wagon with low profile tyres.

motorhead
06-23-2003, 10:07 AM
monaros are wonderful performance cars from holden

LowRider
06-30-2003, 02:56 AM
Monaro Is Back: Game Over
The new SS Wagon rocks dont worry bout the Audi you can not go wrong with this beast. Although the colour sucks is should be Sting Red or Hothouse Green

LowRider
06-30-2003, 03:04 AM
Like it what the Holden SSX? More like love it its awsome I only hope they put it in production.
And the Monaro's rock all they need is more Power not 235kw more like 260kw:cool: :D

Supra-Devil
07-01-2003, 03:20 AM
its kool

Nildo
07-01-2003, 04:46 PM
When the hell did a Monaro beat a porsche 911? Besides the ridiculous TV commercial, when it also beats a viper and an M3 (what a joke!).
I agree with crisis, in many ways Holden is cashing in cheaply on pre existing material, and calling it something new. They can do better, so why don't people expect more of them?

fpv_gtho
07-13-2003, 09:06 PM
maybe he was watching nations cup when he saw the monaro beat the 911. does anybody think it was a bad idea to stick irs on the wagon, i know crisis thinks it was bad for the ute

crisis
07-13-2003, 10:53 PM
I doubt anyone uses Commodore wagons for serious load carrying these days anyway. Commy utes and wagons are just variations on the sedan theme hence the way they cash in on "sports" versions. The sad fact is that so called four wheel drives are coming out with independant suspension as well. Not only is this rat shit for suspension travel off road ( not that most people buying them would care), but it seriously compromises load capacity and towing.

fpv_gtho
07-13-2003, 10:58 PM
irs can be made to be better than an equivalent solid axle setup though. if it was as crap as u say, then why are so many manufacturers adopting it

crisis
07-13-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by fpv_gtho
irs can be made to be better than an equivalent solid axle setup though. if it was as crap as u say, then why are so many manufacturers adopting it
Because most people dont use 4x4s off road, although I dont know what they do with them. Status symbols I suppose. Why are som many manufacturers pumping out $100,000 4x4s? Because no one takes them off road.
Standard live axle suspension is cheap, robust and provides far better wheel travel and groung clearance than irs. When one wheels travels upward, so does the axle thus lifting the whole boy, not to mention diff, clear of the groung in the centre of the car. If on road handling and comfort were'nt now the overiding issue, IRS would not be used.

fpv_gtho
07-14-2003, 09:30 PM
what about the new pajero's, theyve got independant suspension all roud and their offroad handling matched that of the old landcruiser prado which had solid beams all round

crisis
07-15-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by fpv_gtho
what about the new pajero's, theyve got independant suspension all roud and their offroad handling matched that of the old landcruiser prado which had solid beams all round

Not sure what you mean by matched. Where did you read it? The Prado has solid rear and independant front.

fpv_gtho
07-15-2003, 02:24 AM
i read it on drive.com.au, it was some comparison between the new cherokee, new explorer, new pajero, hyundai terracan and some other shitbox. by matched i mean had the same off road characteristics in its handling

crisis
07-15-2003, 08:34 PM
I havent driven a new Pajero so I cant comment of specifics. As a general rule of thumb in the area of actual dynamics of the moving parts a live axle will outperform independant suspension for wheel travel and ground clearance. Newer incarnations like the Pajero may be progressing but it still leaves the centre of the car lower when the wheels travel upward. the Prado is compromised by the front independant suspension anyway. Traction control makes up for the fact that you may not maintain wheel contact with the ground so it is probably less of an issue in that case. Thats of course if you want all of that on you car in the middle of the bush somewhere. Give me live axles, high lift suspension and a diff lock.

fpv_gtho
07-15-2003, 09:30 PM
sounds like u wouldnt mind a land rover defender then

crisis
07-16-2003, 01:07 AM
I got a 80 series Landcruiser. That will do. Defenders are a little rough and ready. Not bad if you want a diesel that you can drive underwater though.

badboybarge
07-17-2003, 12:57 AM
i was having a read about the new SS wagon, i don't think it's all that special, it just looks like another holden stationwagon with SS wheels

badboy

fpv_gtho
07-17-2003, 02:43 AM
couldnt u c that it had a 235kw v8 over the standard 225kw and sports tuned suspensioin? the wheels it has are actually closer to the sv8 wheels than the ss sedan wheels as they're 17" instead of the sedan's 18"