219mph LP640 on Freeway in Arizona!

[werty]

Apparently this was posted just the other day on youtube...now the cops here are investigating. Anyways...its very impressive to say the least

watch towards the end for the drive by view at 219...looks incredible:eek:

YouTube - 219mph!!! Lamborghini LAMBO Speed Record attempt HI-QUALITY (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bg27ckAgEiw)

[zeppelin]

That was awesome, good for them.

[mclaren_crazy]

I agree with you werty, that final drive by is just nuts. I can only imagine what it would be like to br driving one of the cars they passed on the other side of the road

[ScionDriver]

Reckless, dangerous, stupid but very cool. I would never condone it but it is fun to watch.

[NSXType-R]

Reckless, dangerous, stupid but very cool. I would never condone it but it is fun to watch.

Yup.

Ditto.

[pat_ernzen]

Yeah, quite the drama around here. Funny as I (sort of) know the guy... I've taken photos of his car many times.

[werty]

Yeah, quite the drama around here. Funny as I (sort of) know the guy... I've taken photos of his car many times.

I was going to say something about that...but for his sake I think we should both stay quiet.;)

[coolieman1220]

the road was empty of other traffic. weird

[Egg Nog]

I wonder how long it'll be until the Arizona Police find this video and arrest him...

[kigango123]

Pretty nice, 219 is amazing but can he really be arrested for the video

[pat_ernzen]

I was going to say something about that...but for his sake I think we should both stay quiet.;)
It's already well past that point, actually. The local news have been showing his picture, saying his name, telling his profession, etc, for a few days now. I actually saw him earlier today (though he was in his SLR).

EDIT: Oh, and: YouTube - 219 mph LP640 Lamborghini response Ferrari F430 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp6T-tB-CL0)


I wonder how long it'll be until the Arizona Police find this video...
About -3 days or so. :p

[2ndclasscitizen]

Man, the noise that thing makes at full speed is great!

[Vindesh17]

I cant say I wouldn't do that myself if I had the car and the nerve to do so.

[werty]

It's already well past that point, actually. The local news have been showing his picture, saying his name, telling his profession, etc, for a few days now. I actually saw him earlier today (though he was in his SLR).

EDIT: Oh, and: YouTube - 219 mph LP640 Lamborghini response Ferrari F430 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp6T-tB-CL0)


About -3 days or so. :p

yea i know all that. but I dont think they will be able to convict him of anything...especially off a youtube clip...in his defense...anything can be made up these days...you never know

I hope nothing happens to him...I love seeing somebody use there supercar

[whiteballz]

<3 aural sex that is this car at speed.

[RenesisEvo]

Shame they're relying on the car's speedometer, which is hardly accurate - something tells me they weren't actually doing 219mph. Only a GPS system would be able to give you the accuracy to measure the speed properly.

Mad, crazy, and dangerous, but I guess it's better than just leaving it in the garage and looking at it.

[drakkie]

I hope he gets a severe jail sentence. This is just as dangerous as walking around with a pistol through a busy street. Nobody gets hurt, but he is intending to do so. Thank god I was not driving there, because I would be laying in a coffin...

[Cyco]

I thought the Alto would have passed it, in the rain, while drifting, with 7 hot chicks on board?

[clutch-monkey]

This is just as dangerous as walking around with a pistol through a busy street.

actually no it isn't. the pistol can't suddenly spin out of control and shoot 3 passersby.
the analogy would have made sense if you'd said it's as dangerous as firing a pistol down a busy street...

[drakkie]

actually no it isn't. the pistol can't suddenly spin out of control and shoot 3 passersby.
the analogy would have made sense if you'd said it's as dangerous as firing a pistol down a busy street...

Whatever. Hangover FTW.

[Wouter Melissen]

Whatever. Hangover FTW.

Yep, it's not your fault.

[NicFromLA]

I hope he gets a severe jail sentence. This is just as dangerous as walking around with a pistol through a busy street. Nobody gets hurt, but he is intending to do so. Thank god I was not driving there, because I would be laying in a coffin...

Oh don't be such a party pooper!

[NicFromLA]

Shame they're relying on the car's speedometer, which is hardly accurate - something tells me they weren't actually doing 219mph. Only a GPS system would be able to give you the accuracy to measure the speed properly.

Mad, crazy, and dangerous, but I guess it's better than just leaving it in the garage and looking at it.

I had a hard time seeing the needle in the speedo and call me crazy, but those lights on the side of the road didn't seem to be going by THAT fast. And by the way, if I was his lawyer that's exactly what I'd say.

[drakkie]

Yep, it's not your fault.

Exactly. The cans said nothing of these side-effects. Let's sue them.

[magracer]

Shame they're relying on the car's speedometer, which is hardly accurate - something tells me they weren't actually doing 219mph. Only a GPS system would be able to give you the accuracy to measure the speed properly.

I don't know why, but it seems a little slow form the in-car camera. I'm used to see the dotted line become a complete line when cars go at this kind of speed. The pass-by's on the other hand are simply insane.

So, can any one confirm the distance between light poles in american highways? With this distance you would be able to perform -an addmittedly not too accurate- speed check.

[ZeTurbo]

if e has money for an lp640, he does not need to worry about the law.

[ZeTurbo]

I don't know why, but it seems a little slow form the in-car camera. I'm used to see the dotted line become a complete line when cars go at this kind of speed. The pass-by's on the other hand are simply insane.

So, can any one confirm the distance between light poles in american highways? With this distance you would be able to perform -an addmittedly not too accurate- speed check.

Dont forget, the video quality wasnt great. and the camera also has limited frame rate per scond compared to our vision.

[:Exige:]

yea i know all that. but I dont think they will be able to convict him of anything...especially off a youtube clip...in his defense...anything can be made up these days...you never know

I hope nothing happens to him...I love seeing somebody use there supercar
The guy who made a video of his F40 doing 200mph in Japan was sent to jail. The Getaway in Stockholm guy was jailed. People have been jailed for speeding offences with far less evidence than this. Unfortunately I think he's going to jail.

[TS020]

So that's what woke me up that night. ;)

I live out in that region, I read some of the comments on youtube, somebody mentioned where the guy was doing this (loop 202 between power and hawes).

Awesome video, but the guy is going jail, no doubt. :(

[Wouter Melissen]

So that's what woke me up that night. ;)

I live out in that region, I read some of the comments on youtube, somebody mentioned where the guy was doing this (loop 202 between power and hawes).

Awesome video, but the guy is going jail, no doubt. :(

But how? Can you see the driver in any of the footage? And what exactly can they proof he did wrong? There is no actual evidence of the speed he reached. Reckless driving is about the only thing they can pin on him, if they can figure out who was driving.

[TS020]

But how? Can you see the driver in any of the footage? And what exactly can they proof he did wrong? There is no actual evidence of the speed he reached. Reckless driving is about the only thing they can pin on him, if they can figure out who was driving.

They can't see his face, but there aren't that many people that own LP640's in the world, so it's not gonna be that hard to find him.

And you're right, unless if the police can prove that he did 219, they can only pin him for reckless driving.

[Sledgehammer]

This is what I would cite the genius with.

1. Unsafe Lane Deviation - $160
2. Unreasonable and imprudent speed - $198
3. Speeding in excess of fixed limits (45mph or more-highest the USTDS goes) - $501
4. Reckless driving - $375

In addition his liscence would be revoked.

[werty]

nothing can be proven from a youtube video...case shut

as for it not looking that fast inside the car....the 202 loop is really wide...so it mostly an optical illusion...the outside drive by tells all..

[Sledgehammer]

I imagine that someone's name will eventually be given up and then citations issued. Remember, if theirs enough evidence to make it to trial, then the decision is on the jury.

[silverhawk]

I love this car even more now. the engine sound is awazing.

[werty]

but how do you issue a citation based on something that is quite possibly fake or edited. It's not like some by stander videotaped this or produced it. The driver did.

If they could actually convict people of speeding and reckless driving from youtube...thousands of people would be arrested everyday....including myself, all of my close friends. There are sooooo many acceleration, racing, and top speed videos on youtube from public streets.

So if they did start doing that...where do they draw the line. If a person video tapes themselves going 5 over the limit...does that equate to a ticket? What about a burnout in a parking lot? You know what I mean? They just cant go handing out tickets based on home movies when it comes to driving.

[Sledgehammer]

If they have probable cause, then yes they can. Im not saying I would do it, but for videos like this, where in the blink of an eye, something can go wrong and cause great bodily harm or death, citations are needed and he should lose his liscence.

In the matter of how you issue citations to people on youtube. Get a name and then question them, if they confess and its the good of the community to issue a ticket, then they deserve a forfiture.

Im not trying to come off as an ass, but if your willing to break the law, then you should be ready to pay the consequences.

[Matt]

In many states, exceeding the speed limit by a certain extreme amount results in charges of attempted vehicular manslaughter. I know that's the way it is here in Kansas.

[Sledgehammer]

Do you know what amount it is? Or is it under certain conditions (location near school, minors in the car...)?

[F1_Master]

They can't see his face, but there aren't that many people that own LP640's in the world, so it's not gonna be that hard to find him.

And you're right, unless if the police can prove that he did 219, they can only pin him for reckless driving.
Many folks own LP640's, however, the area they'll be able to pinpoint this guy will be much easier.

nothing can be proven from a youtube video...case shut

as for it not looking that fast inside the car....the 202 loop is really wide...so it mostly an optical illusion...the outside drive by tells all..

Case not shut. The color of the LP640 is a custom ordered color. It hasn't been on any Lamborghini since the Diablo 6.0 SE. Thus, all police have to do now is actually track it down.

[Matra et Alpine]

In December 2000 motorcyclist Daniel Nicks was jailed for six weeks and banned for two years after filming himself doing 175mph aboard his Honda Fireblade on the A41 in Hertfordshire.

The father-of-two strapped a camcorder to his helmet and roared along the A41 in Hertfordshire before he crashed. Police found the camera, played back the tape and charged him.


Police are currently trying to id these two idiots ... 176mph on damp roads, dusk on bikes :( 176mph motorcyclist captured on video - Yorkshire Post (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/176mph-motorcyclist-captured-on-video.3164834.jp)

[faksta]

the road was empty of other traffic. weird

Joke? Otherwise, do you like the Gumball fatal accident this year more? :confused:


In December 2000 motorcyclist Daniel Nicks was jailed for six weeks and banned for two years after filming himself doing 175mph aboard his Honda Fireblade on the A41 in Hertfordshire.

The father-of-two strapped a camcorder to his helmet and roared along the A41 in Hertfordshire before he crashed. Police found the camera, played back the tape and charged him.


Police are currently trying to id these two idiots ... 176mph on damp roads, dusk on bikes :( 176mph motorcyclist captured on video - Yorkshire Post (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/176mph-motorcyclist-captured-on-video.3164834.jp)

I remember an article stating about some motorcyclist doing about 300kmh between traffic ('between traffic' means riding at line between cars going opposite ways...) with a camera on his bike. There was a photo in the article... made seconds before hitting the car front-to-front...

[werty]

Case not shut. The color of the LP640 is a custom ordered color. It hasn't been on any Lamborghini since the Diablo 6.0 SE. Thus, all police have to do now is actually track it down.

right I'm not saying they couldnt find him...and if you read this entire thread it has already been said that his name and face were on tv. I'm just saying they cant prove anything from a youtube video.

I think its weird that the cops would even bother watching youtube to try and find criminal acts.

oh and I'm not saying it was safe either ...or that he doesnt deserve a ticket. I just admire fast cars...and since he did no damage I would like to see this one let off. Only one time though for this guy

[F1_Master]

right I'm not saying they couldnt find him...and if you read this entire thread it has already been said that his name and face were on tv. I'm just saying they cant prove anything from a youtube video.

I think its weird that the cops would even bother watching youtube to try and find criminal acts.

oh and I'm not saying it was safe either ...or that he doesnt deserve a ticket. I just admire fast cars...and since he did no damage I would like to see this one let off. Only one time though for this guy

Where exactly has someone said the driver's face was visible? As far as I've read, it seems more like his face isn't. However, that doesn't mean they can't prove it was him.

That LP640 is the only one of its kind in the world. The owner is a dentist who now runs a porno website in which the car has been seen. The only rumour is that Robert (the owner) was not driving the car. Regardless, there is evidence in the video this car is speeding. And since there is this is the only LP640 in this color, there is only 1 owner they need to investigate.

As for the last part, I find that very strange. Are you implying that anyone who gets pulled over for speeding should just be let off because they didn't do any damage? I think a main point is that he could have done damage.

[cmcpokey]

The owner is a dentist who now runs a porno website in which the car has been seen.

Dentist to porn producer seems a strange jump...



any links?

[werty]

As for the last part, I find that very strange. Are you implying that anyone who gets pulled over for speeding should just be let off because they didn't do any damage? I think a main point is that he could have done damage.

No I would never say that. I'm just saying...what he did has already been done and since noone was hurt and he probably wont do it again since he is now under the public eye...I think they should just drop it.

Your making it sound like I actually physically witnessed it and I'm saying its ok. I think what he did was crazy and he should have been pulled over. I find it absolutely amazing that no cops heard or saw him doing that...I dont care how early in the morning it was....and he did it 3 times! But the fact remains...nobody saw him. Nobody was hurt. They should drop it...but seriously start patroling the freeways at night.

[Matra et Alpine]

It is NOT a defence that someone else did it before and wasn't arrested/charged :)

[ZeTurbo]

This is what I would cite the genius with.

1. Unsafe Lane Deviation - $160
2. Unreasonable and imprudent speed - $198
3. Speeding in excess of fixed limits (45mph or more-highest the USTDS goes) - $501
4. Reckless driving - $375

In addition his liscence would be revoked.

Like I said, if the man owns am LP640,. money is definatly NOT an issue.

[ringle]

Werty.....you're sounding very defensive here....were you the driver?

Dentist to porn webmaster...wonder which provided the money for the car?

[Cotterik]

its incredible how easy it looks. great find!

[coolieman1220]

there was a guy a couple years back who took a video doing over 200 or so in a Ferrari F50. he sold the video around and was arrested. they had all teh evidence against him and that was the end of him

[2ndclasscitizen]

In many states, exceeding the speed limit by a certain extreme amount results in charges of attempted vehicular manslaughter. I know that's the way it is here in Kansas.

What a ridiculous law. How the hell can you attempt manslaughter?

[henk4]

What a ridiculous law. How the hell can you attempt manslaughter?

attempted manslaughter is a very common legal concept. If you hit somebody hard enough but he miraculously stays alive, you can be convicted of attempted manslaughter. If the person had indeed died, it would be simply manslaughter....

[Wouter Melissen]

What a ridiculous law. How the hell can you attempt manslaughter?

By driving at ridiculously dangerous speeds? I would consider drunk driving another case of attempted vehicular manslaughter.

[whiteballz]

how the hell do you "attempt" to *genuinely* accidentally kill someone?

[Wouter Melissen]

how the hell do you "attempt" to *genuinely* accidentally kill someone?

By taking too many risks and upping the chances of an accident considerably. It is like shooting a gun at a crowd without aiming and missing; you don't intent to shoot anybody in particular, but you take a rather large risk at injuring/killing someone. That is attempted manslaughter.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

It's just called attempted murder round these parts.

either that or greivous bodily harm.

The point is that taking a large risk, or indiscriminate shooting, as you put it, is still an attempt to injure or maim. thats attempted murder.

attempted manslaughter is a contradiction in terms. I didn't mean to kill him, but I tried anyway.

[2ndclasscitizen]

attempted manslaughter is a contradiction in terms. I didn't mean to kill him, but I tried anyway.

Yes, thank you for getting it.

[ACAM]

what a fool! a great fool who lets us all watch his great acts of stupidity but a fool none the less. that must have been the most unbelivable expirence to go that fast on a road way, not wise at all but still would have been amazing.

[henk4]

attempted manslaughter is a contradiction in terms. I didn't mean to kill him, but I tried anyway.

in our legal system there is a difference between murder and manslaughter. Murder is considered to be premeditated, while manslaughter is done during the heat of the moment. The result for the victim is the same, yet the punishment levels for manslaughter are lower than for murder.
Because of this subtle difference we can speak of attempted manslaughter, even though this may sound strange to people who do not have this difference embedded in their legal system.

[pat_ernzen]

Calling this attempted murder/manslaughter is just ridiculous. Seriously.

[Sledgehammer]

I think as far as the act itself, is criminal recklessness.

"...criminal recklessness means that the actor creates an unreasonable and substantial risk of death or great bodily harm to another human being and the actor is aware of that risk."

Wisconsin does not have manslaughter charges, so I am unable to help clarify that part. Is intent a necessary part for manslaughter? If it is, it would be a stretch to find him guilty because im sure he did not intend to be the cause of a vehicular homicide (manslaughter).

[werty]

Werty.....you're sounding very defensive here....were you the driver?

Dentist to porn webmaster...wonder which provided the money for the car?

lol, if I had an lp640 I wouldnt be wasting my time arguing about it on the internet, I'd be driving it

[kigango123]

If I had an lp640 I wouldnt be wasting my time arguing about it on the internet, I'd be driving it

QFT :p

[F1_Master]

lol, if I had an lp640 I wouldnt be wasting my time arguing about it on the internet, I'd be driving it

That's not his point though. Why should this guy just be let off just because no one was hurt?

[2ndclasscitizen]

in our legal system there is a difference between murder and manslaughter. Murder is considered to be premeditated, while manslaughter is done during the heat of the moment. The result for the victim is the same, yet the punishment levels for manslaughter are lower than for murder.
Because of this subtle difference we can speak of attempted manslaughter, even though this may sound strange to people who do not have this difference embedded in their legal system.

In Australia manslaughter is applicable when there was no intent to kill at all. So if I was in a punch up with someone and they fell, knocked their head and died, that is manslaughter. I didn't mean to kill them, but had been meaning to cause injury. So attempted manslaughter would imply some form intent to kill the other person, which be murder.

And it's quite clear that the driver had no intent to hurt anyone, and was being careful. If you listen to the video, at the start of the first run you can hear someone on a 2-way radio telling him the road is clear, so he obviously had people watching the road for him. And at the end, the driver says he slowed down when he saw other traffic, rather than ripping past at 200mph+.

[werty]

That's not his point though. Why should this guy just be let off just because no one was hurt?

What did he do is a better question. Did he speed? I have no idea, it could all be computer generated. I myself have made a phony vid showing my vehicle driving faster than possible...with a nitro car for engine sound...its not hard at all to do.

Was that even the 202 loop? I didnt see any clearly marked signs? The only evidence is a youtube video....nothing can be proven from a youtube video!

Thats why he should be let off the hook. No evidence

I see this as the cops and media harassing an single individual, and letting off hundreds of others who clearly show there faces and roads signs when they speed or race. This is getting ridiculous!

[kingofthering]

Is intent a necessary part for manslaughter? If it is, it would be a stretch to find him guilty because im sure he did not intend to be the cause of a vehicular homicide (manslaughter).

That really depends. If all the pieces fall into place for him, he might get let off the hook, but if the judge is a hard-ass, he'll get his ass chewed out.

With that said, I don't condone this behavior or worship this guy for this, but if I had a Lamborghini, I'd probably do something similar, just not at those speeds.

[kingofthering]

In Australia manslaughter is applicable when there was no intent to kill at all. So if I was in a punch up with someone and they fell, knocked their head and died, that is manslaughter. I didn't mean to kill them, but had been meaning to cause injury. So attempted manslaughter would imply some form intent to kill the other person, which be murder.


This is a bit off topic, but interestingly I heard a few members of the Williams team got hit with manslaughter charges after Senna's fatal crash. Apparently that counts as manslaughter in Italy...

[NSXType-R]

yea i know all that. but I dont think they will be able to convict him of anything...especially off a youtube clip...in his defense...anything can be made up these days...you never know

I hope nothing happens to him...I love seeing somebody use there supercar

Yeah, I don't think you can testify against yourself using your own video.

I could be wrong though.

[Sledgehammer]

....nothing can be proven from a youtube video!



Teenage driver faces charges over 140mph YouTube video | 24dash.com - Communities (http://www.24dash.com/communities/26854.htm)

College Student Faces Sedition Charges Over YouTube Video (http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=64131)

Great Britain: Man nicked by YouTube video (Police to charge speeder based upon video he made) (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1786286/posts)

winnipegsun.com - Winnipeg News - Racing charges (http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2006/12/13/2770146-sun.html)

Just a few to get you to think again.

[werty]

Just a few to get you to think again.

in all of those cases, the people filmed there actual faces

and none of them happened in the USA

so let me rethink that statement. You shouldnt be able to prove anything from a youtube video....at least not in America:p

Also, for the ones involving racing. The people filmed other cars and street signs. Which means there were actual witnesses. Without witnesses for Mr. Lambo in Arizona...I dont think he will get charged.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

in our legal system there is a difference between murder and manslaughter. Murder is considered to be premeditated, while manslaughter is done during the heat of the moment. The result for the victim is the same, yet the punishment levels for manslaughter are lower than for murder.
Because of this subtle difference we can speak of attempted manslaughter, even though this may sound strange to people who do not have this difference embedded in their legal system.

Do you guys have a separate Pre-meditated murder charge ? or is it just called murder?

That's probably the biggest difference.

[Sledgehammer]

Do you guys have a separate Pre-meditated murder charge ? or is it just called murder?

That's probably the biggest difference.

Their are several. Conspiracy and attempted homicide are two that come to mind right away. Homicide gets divided up into various felony classes.

1st degree intentional homicide is pre-meditated without a (heat-of-passion) element.
2nd degree is reckless homicide ex. shooting at someone but trying to miss
3rd degree is negligent homicide ex. leaving a loaded gun at home with small children.

Homicide (murder) differs from manslaughter. Manslaughter is often plea bargained by the defense. It often includes exigent circumstances. One example is coming home and finding your wife in bed with another man and you killing him. Situations of shockingly high emotional levels do get consideration in the court. Distract attorney’s need to prove a set of elements (such as intent, which can take place in an instant) during trial and they are sometimes less than solid which is where going from homicide to manslaughter plea's come into play.

Fortunately, each state has its own statutes defining what is considered homicide and manslaughter. To any that are interested just P.M. me and I can give a more in-depth difference, I am tired and sick of pushing people out of the snow. It seems that even in WI people always forget how to drive during the summer.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

It's the Planning or Intent element that comes into it mostly that differentiates between Murder and Manslaughter.

I still don't think this counts as anything more than reckless driving. If he'd crashed, chances are it'd be Grievous Bodily harm or whatever bulls**t charges there are these days.

[henk4]

Do you guys have a separate Pre-meditated murder charge ? or is it just called murder?

That's probably the biggest difference.

yes, we have a separate pre-meditated charge....

[john14]

Formula 1 racing tracks, drag strips etc. were designed for automobiles to travel at speeds such as/like 219mph. Travelling at 219mph on a freeway is just wrong. I say, these people should never be allowed drive again and spend 5 or 6 years in jail.

[pat_ernzen]

Formula 1 racing tracks, drag strips etc. were designed for automobiles to travel at speeds such as/like 219mph. Travelling at 219mph on a freeway is just wrong. I say, these people should never be allowed drive again and spend 5 or 6 years in jail.
Hahahaha, see, I find that absolutely ridiculous.

[kigango123]

Formula 1 racing tracks, drag strips etc. were designed for automobiles to travel at speeds such as/like 219mph. Travelling at 219mph on a freeway is just wrong. I say, these people should never be allowed drive again and spend 5 or 6 years in jail.

I too find it stupid since you are sporting an initial D avatar, yet supposedly aganist this :rolleyes:

[john14]

I too find it stupid since you are sporting an initial D avatar, yet supposedly aganist this :rolleyes:

kigango123, Initial D is not real life. The Initial D series is an anime and Initial D version 1, 2, 3 and 4 are driving games. Watching the Initial D anime and playing the Initial D Arcade Stage driving games is harmless. Driving at 219mph in real life is dangerous, illegal and it is an example of dangerous driving. Many people are killed as a result of dangerous driving and people only live once.

[kigango123]

kigango123, Initial D is not real life. The Initial D series is an anime and Initial D version 1, 2, 3 and 4 are driving games. Watching the Initial D anime and playing the Initial D Arcade Stage driving games is harmless. Driving at 219mph in real life is dangerous, illegal and it is an example of dangerous driving. Many people are killed as a result of dangerous driving and people only live once.

Well, Initial D is based and reflects on real life touge racing in japan usually done at night on public roads, An activity highly shunned by the Japanese police, Takes place on two way public roads and much more dangerous than driving in a Lambo on an abandoned freeway

[F1_Master]

What did he do is a better question. Did he speed? I have no idea, it could all be computer generated. I myself have made a phony vid showing my vehicle driving faster than possible...with a nitro car for engine sound...its not hard at all to do.

Was that even the 202 loop? I didnt see any clearly marked signs? The only evidence is a youtube video....nothing can be proven from a youtube video!

Thats why he should be let off the hook. No evidence
This is ridiculous. What proof do you have it isn't real? Zero. You have no evidence to suggest these claims are true. Plus, the police don't need any other evidence.

In case you didn't read my comment before, but this is the ONLY LP640 in this gold color in the world. The owner also has previous offences in the state of Arizona. The car was also bought in Arizona. All police need to do is contact the owner and question him because he is their only lead.


I see this as the cops and media harassing an single individual, and letting off hundreds of others who clearly show there faces and roads signs when they speed or race. This is getting ridiculous!
These other folks aren't doing 219 freakin' miles per hour.

While I agree folks should use their supercars, I don't believe it should be done like this. But you're just bringing retarded assumptions to the table. You have nothing to support your claims the speedo is digitally altered or that the sound is dubbed over (which it's not; first hand experience tells me that sound is legit with the car passing by). And while your claims are unsupported, the opposition has enough background on this guy to show he very likely was the culprit.

[werty]

This is ridiculous. What proof do you have it isn't real? Zero. You have no evidence to suggest these claims are true. Plus, the police don't need any other evidence.

In case you didn't read my comment before, but this is the ONLY LP640 in this gold color in the world. The owner also has previous offences in the state of Arizona. The car was also bought in Arizona. All police need to do is contact the owner and question him because he is their only lead.

These other folks aren't doing 219 freakin' miles per hour.

While I agree folks should use their supercars, I don't believe it should be done like this. But you're just bringing retarded assumptions to the table. You have nothing to support your claims the speedo is digitally altered or that the sound is dubbed over (which it's not; first hand experience tells me that sound is legit with the car passing by). And while your claims are unsupported, the opposition has enough background on this guy to show he very likely was the culprit.

What proof do you have that it is real? haha:p ZERO!!! You have no evidence to support that the video is real.

And yea I know its the only gold lp640...in fact its probably the only lp640 in Arizona. And you're right..they CAN question him as much as they want...but thats not goin to determine if person is guilty or not.

Maybe not 219, but I have seen many at 200mph, tons of them at 180...does it matter how much over the limit they are? No! They cant just go after this guy because its the fastest theve seen, that would be wrong.

You have shown zero evidence to support the video is real. Nobody will ever be albe to prove it was real from a youtube video. Perhaps if they found the original tape...without editing...under his bed:p . Then he would be screwed

I'm right there with you saying this is illegal stupid and cool at the same time...but I still dont think they have a case on him.

Does it really matter what WE think about this anyways?;) The justice system is so corrupt I could see it going either way...without any evidence or with butt loads of evidence.

[F1_Master]

What proof do you have that it is real? haha:p ZERO!!! You have no evidence to support that the video is real.
Besides the fact that the speedometer is quite obviously showing the car is reaching those speeds? Or that the fly-by's show the car at high rates of speed? You can't say that's sped up, when the traffic in the background is of natural speed.


And yea I know its the only gold lp640...in fact its probably the only lp640 in Arizona. And you're right..they CAN question him as much as they want...but thats not goin to determine if person is guilty or not.
It will determine if he had anything to do with it. Plus, he will be the one responsible for getting the car out of the impound. Being the only gold-colored LP640 in the world means the police have only 1 car to impound.


Maybe not 219, but I have seen many at 200mph, tons of them at 180...does it matter how much over the limit they are? No! They cant just go after this guy because its the fastest theve seen, that would be wrong.
If every idiot video taped themselves doing 100Mph, the police would easily open an investigation. What makes this guy a priority is that he's doing 200Mph. The average speeder doesn't even do 100Mph.


You have shown zero evidence to support the video is real. Nobody will ever be albe to prove it was real from a youtube video. Perhaps if they found the original tape...without editing...under his bed:p . Then he would be screwed
Sorry, but the actual video is proof. By your ridiculous claim, I could say all these videos of crimes being committed are just edited to look like it. It's a dumb defense, and will never pass police. Until you can actually proof the video is fake, the prosecution will see it as real. Everything in the video suggests it's real as well. Car speed, sound, etc. all match.



Does it really matter what WE think about this anyways?;) The justice system is so corrupt I could see it going either way...without any evidence or with butt loads of evidence.
How much evidence they have is not a factor. This video shows the driver committing the act. Whether the owner is the one driving or not can not be proven as of now. But what the owner will face is a series of questions of why his car is being used (or in your case, "made-to-look") in a crime.

But to deem the video is fake is idiotic. You have no evidence to show it's fake, while the sounds and motion depicted continue to show otherwise.

[The_Canuck]

Well, Initial D is based and reflects on real life touge racing in japan usually done at night on public roads, An activity highly shunned by the Japanese police, Takes place on two way public roads and much more dangerous than driving in a Lambo on an abandoned freeway

Except one of them, is REAL.

;)

[werty]

You would need the actual original tape to prove any of that. Any video can be edited. Because it could have been edited, and it has already been compressed for youtube, it cannot be used as real evidence...unless they find the original tape.

I'm not saying they wont have trouble finding him sometime, they already know where he lives. This has been stated already!

Every idiot does tape themselves! There are hundreds of them on youtube...why havent they been put in jail?!

No. The original would be proof. Downloading a youtube version means absolutely nothing, and it cannot be used as "proof". You can't send a person to prison based on a hunch that a youtube version of a video is real.


Did you seriously just say that? haha. The amount of evidence is everything! This youtube version shows a car supposedly doing 219 on some unknown street. That is a complete joke.

Again, a youtube version of a video means nothing. It doesnt matter what it looks like to you, it could be 100% computer generated. The only real evidence lies inside the camcorder that took the video...assuming a camcorder was even used.

[nota]

No. The original would be proof. Downloading a youtube version means absolutely nothing, and it cannot be used as "proof". You can't send a person to prison based on a hunch that a youtube version of a video is real.

This little video was proof enough for the Western Australian cops to suspend a fellow officer

This only took 24 hours after it first appeared on youtube

YouTube - Good Aussie Cops (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OcbErZN3UMY) :D

[F1_Master]

You would need the actual original tape to prove any of that. Any video can be edited. Because it could have been edited, and it has already been compressed for youtube, it cannot be used as real evidence...unless they find the original tape.
The only editing done is the changing of the camera. Everything else in this videos supports the car doing 219Mph.


Every idiot does tape themselves! There are hundreds of them on youtube...why havent they been put in jail?!
Simple. Police do not have time to sit through YouTube and look at videos.


No. The original would be proof. Downloading a youtube version means absolutely nothing, and it cannot be used as "proof". You can't send a person to prison based on a hunch that a youtube version of a video is real.
Sorry, but yes, it can. You have nothing to show the video is fake, thus, it remains real. Sounds, speedometer, and RPM are within sync. Editing the speed dial to say 219Mph would not perfectly sync up every little thing with a video of this quality.


Did you seriously just say that? haha. The amount of evidence is everything! This youtube version shows a car supposedly doing 219 on some unknown street. That is a complete joke.

Again, a youtube version of a video means nothing. It doesnt matter what it looks like to you, it could be 100% computer generated. The only real evidence lies inside the camcorder that took the video...assuming a camcorder was even used.
Nope. You can't prove that, and you know it. Your defense would never work in court either. The sounds & motion of everything support that the car is doing 219Mph. You have no evidence to show that everything is edited.
The only editing is the changing of the camera's location. Everything else is real.

Until you can actually prove the video is fake, it is real. Everything in the video matches exactly what the car would do in that situation. Nothing is out of place.

End of story.

[RenesisEvo]

Besides the fact that the speedometer is quite obviously showing the car is reaching those speeds? Or that the fly-by's show the car at high rates of speed? You can't say that's sped up, when the traffic in the background is of natural speed.

As I said earlier, a speedo is woefully inaccurate - espcially above about 70mph (normally they are calibrated for 30-70) - so showing the speedo displaying 219mph does by no means imply the car was doing 219mph. For example, I have been in a vehicle driven at 110 - and the GPS system was indicating a ground speed of 100. Assuming a similar, linear, error (which is totally a bad idea but nevermind), I could guess the Lambo was barely doing 200 (ground speed). I know for a fact that a car's tyre does not rotate at the speed as the car moves over the ground (longitudinal slip - I'm not going to explain any more because that involves a long digression in vehicle dynamics).

In short, he might have 219 on the speedo, but that does not prove the car achieved a ground speed of 219. A calibrated and verified GPS system is the only way - these are used to measure official high speed runs.

[henk4]

As I said earlier, a speedo is woefully inaccurate - espcially above about 70mph (normally they are calibrated for 30-70) - so showing the speedo displaying 219mph does by no means imply the car was doing 219mph. For example, I have been in a vehicle driven at 110 - and the GPS system was indicating a ground speed of 100. Assuming a similar, linear, error (which is totally a bad idea but nevermind), I could guess the Lambo was barely doing 200 (ground speed). I know for a fact that a car's tyre does not rotate at the speed as the car moves over the ground (longitudinal slip - I'm not going to explain any more because that involves a long digression in vehicle dynamics).

In short, he might have 219 on the speedo, but that does not prove the car achieved a ground speed of 219. A calibrated and verified GPS system is the only way - these are used to measure official high speed runs.

even if the police would compensate for measuring inaccuracies, I think the speed is still way above what is acceptable....

[Rockefella]

even if the police would compensate for measuring inaccuracies, I think the speed is still way above what is acceptable....

True, but it's difficult to place charges on someone without having concrete, or at least appropriate evidence of the speed that was attained. I'm personally sure he was going over 175 mph, but the courts and a jury may feel the lack of evidence that is sourced through a youtube video can't uphold a verdict for 219 mph.

I'd guess he would get reckless driving and speeding charges, with an overnight jailing or something.

[henk4]

True, but it's difficult to place charges on someone without having concrete, or at least appropriate evidence of the speed that was attained. I'm personally sure he was going over 175 mph, but the courts and a jury may feel the lack of evidence that is sourced through a youtube video can't uphold a verdict for 219 mph.

I'd guess he would get reckless driving and speeding charges, with an overnight jailing or something.

they only have to calibrate the rev-counter...

[RenesisEvo]

even if the police would compensate for measuring inaccuracies, I think the speed is still way above what is acceptable....

I totally agree with that, and I'm not suggesting at all it is acceptable. You are asking for trouble doing speeds of that magnitude. A puncture, mechanical failure, bump in the road, any small factor could have led to a very large accident.

[ringle]

This video is more than enough to convict. Cases are tried and convictions are determined on far lesser "circumstantial" evidence every day in the US and around the world.

BTW: Does anyone have any updates on this story out of AZ?

[ringle]

Robert Simyar (http://www.simyar.com/about/default.htm)

[The_Canuck]

Mother of god, he has a Reventon.

Thats like...diplomatic immunity...

[pat_ernzen]

Mother of god, he has a Reventon.

Thats like...diplomatic immunity...

That's a joke. He doesn't have a Reventon. He has a SLR, Oro Elios LP640, an SL, modded 3000GT VR4 and a Veyron on the way. I'm not 100% sure he still has the SL.

[pat_ernzen]

This video is more than enough to convict. Cases are tried and convictions are determined on far lesser "circumstantial" evidence every day in the US and around the world.

BTW: Does anyone have any updates on this story out of AZ?

Not really. Haven't heard anything about it on the news (which I don't really watch :p ) and haven't heard anything from my friends or other people in the club. He was at an event I was at last weekend and he was posting on a forum I go to yesterday.

[werty]

tell him I said his website is lame;) :p

[kingofthering]

tell him I said his website is lame;) :p

Yeah, you'd think a millionaire dentist could throw a couple o' bucks at some computer whiz for a slick website.

[narb.is.back]

ohh si carinho.....

[mclaren N.a.r.b]

narb is back! thank good my idol!!!

[pat_ernzen]

Yeah, you'd think a millionaire dentist could throw a couple o' bucks at some computer whiz for a slick website.
Hahaha, that website is really nothing. He kind of has a couple more websites... one that has made him millions of dollars and all.

[henk4]

Hahaha, that website is really nothing. He kind of has a couple more websites... one that has made him millions of dollars and all.

which obviously gives him permission to behave like an idiot...

[Ryan9118]

There used to be a hi-res version of this video on a website (205mph.com), along with a bunch of pictures of this guy showing off his car. Quite a few had his face in it, along with the license plate, but I think the numbers were blurred out. There was a couple other videos of him doing high triple-digit-speeds on public roads. The site doesn't work anymore though, probably because of the news reporting on the video.