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nopassn
03-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4

EDIT: so fresh and hot, they're still uploading pics to the media site...

press release txt below... I'm not going to post 13 pages of release crap...

nopassn
03-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Press Release added

whiteballz
03-03-2008, 02:21 PM
I think this looks pretty damned good, do you have any specs of the changes mechanically to the rest of the car?

<AAA-MOD>
03-03-2008, 02:24 PM
I think this looks pretty damned good, do you have any specs of the changes mechanically to the rest of the car?

this info is super-fresh and still developing. Roy's in the midst of posting more.

LeonOfTheDead
03-03-2008, 02:53 PM
this pics appear on italian magazine Quattroruote last number, a couple of week ago. they follow the production of the first model with a reportage. when i saw it i though it was not a perfect rear, also for the rear light too much similar to those of the R8, and now i reconfirm my idea. then, it's still quite a good car.

ScionDriver
03-03-2008, 03:09 PM
OK I think I kind of scoffed a couple weeks ago when this car was first leaked, but, jeez its gorgeous. I quite like it. Very nice Lambo.

Dino Scuderia
03-03-2008, 03:16 PM
The front is okay, more edgy. Don't like the rims, not edgy enough.

The rear is too tame too. Overall I'm underwhelmed.

Manik
03-03-2008, 03:28 PM
The front looks okay, the slight curve on the side is nice too. Although I'm not a big fan of the rear end. Also, why do the exhaust pipes look so complicated?

LeonOfTheDead
03-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Also, why do the exhaust pipes look so complicated?

what do you mean by complicated?
take a look at the 612's pipes http://www.swisscarsightings.com/finalimondialiferrari2006colorfulparking/Ferrari%20612%20Scaglietti%20688.jpg
or at this from a 430 (i guess they are tubi's optional pipes)
http://www.swisscarsightings.com/finalimondialiferrari2006redparking/Ferrari%20430%201864.jpg

MRR
03-03-2008, 03:39 PM
Great car. Hideous color

Vindesh17
03-03-2008, 03:41 PM
that thing is jaw dropping :eek:

NSXType-R
03-03-2008, 03:48 PM
Nice. Always kinda liked the Gallardo.

Those wheels look retro but not at the same time. They look like BBSs.

Fiorano
03-03-2008, 04:04 PM
its hard to fault it...
supercar indeed...

Ferrer
03-03-2008, 04:28 PM
What's up with vile wheels on the latest Italians cars?

ErWin76
03-03-2008, 04:54 PM
well...little bit disapointed with the looks, i expected bigger changes. Otherwise it sounds good, more power, less weight, better fuel consumption.

baddabang
03-03-2008, 05:37 PM
Full. Of. Win.

nopassn
03-03-2008, 05:52 PM
that thing is jaw dropping :eek:

And probably panty dropping too... :cool:

NicFromLA
03-03-2008, 06:04 PM
Oh my lord, it's amazing. I know the F430 is a better car, but this car is so gorgeous.

TS020
03-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Just what I need. *breaks open piggy bank*

Dammit, it's empty. :(

Super GT
03-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Hey i like it just not so crazy about the rims.

I also think the F430 is a better car.

2ndclasscitizen
03-03-2008, 06:19 PM
That's pretty awesome.

whiteballz
03-03-2008, 06:25 PM
Oh my lord, it's amazing. I know the F430 is a better car, but this car is so gorgeous.


Depends on what you count it on :)

I'd take one of these any day over the F430 - the sound of lambos, the flare, the style, its all there for me :)

ZeTurbo
03-03-2008, 07:20 PM
oh... my ... (insert devinity here)!

NicFromLA
03-03-2008, 07:39 PM
Depends on what you count it on :)

I'd take one of these any day over the F430 - the sound of lambos, the flare, the style, its all there for me :)

I have a very deep love of Ferrari, but I'd take a Gallardo Spyder over a 430 Spyder any day because the top on the 430 Spyder is so damned ugly. In terms of the coupes however, most of the reviewers like the 430 better (even Clarkson who owns a Lambo) and I do believe the 430 is a better car in terms of build quality, handling, response. I also much prefer RWD to AWD in my sports cars. BUT, I do believe the Gallardo is simply the better looking car.

Lotec_Sirius
03-03-2008, 09:13 PM
Sexy car, my favorite Gallardo so far

092326001
03-03-2008, 10:56 PM
looks amazing

pimento
03-03-2008, 11:20 PM
I have a very deep love of Ferrari, but I'd take a Gallardo Spyder over a 430 Spyder any day because the top on the 430 Spyder is so damned ugly. In terms of the coupes however, most of the reviewers like the 430 better (even Clarkson who owns a Lambo) and I do believe the 430 is a better car in terms of build quality, handling, response. I also much prefer RWD to AWD in my sports cars. BUT, I do believe the Gallardo is simply the better looking car.

I'm with you on that one, a Ferrari is bought to enjoy the drive so the coupe is a better choice. Almost because of that, when selecting a drop top it would have to be a Lambo, because it has the style and flair that's required and doesn't feel like it's been compromised by losing the lid. In fact with a Lambo it's probably an improvement that way.

zeppelin
03-03-2008, 11:32 PM
Yeah I'm not a fan of the rear changes. I've always liked the way the taillights wrapped upwards on the Gallardo. The Superleggera still wins my heart.

Auxin
03-04-2008, 03:05 AM
IM still unsure, it looks nice, but no matter how good it looks the 430 is still a much better car. I do like the front end and the sides and the rims are nice too. Back end is too messy, complicated and R8-ish

ginger_man
03-04-2008, 03:26 AM
I'd have a murcielago over a gallardo, but its still an amazing car.

billygoat081992
03-04-2008, 09:45 AM
You got these off net car show, didn't you? netcarshow.com has the same exact wallpapers, too, its just that they have them before ultimate car page comes out with them. Otherwise, the new Gallardo looks fantastic. 560 horses, all wheel drive, plus the engine in the back is mounted backwards.

Duell
03-04-2008, 10:14 AM
You got these off net car show, didn't you? netcarshow.com has the same exact wallpapers, too, its just that they have them before ultimate car page comes out with them.

I think netcarshow gets these pictures form the same source as Nopassn. And that is the press site. If you get them from Netcarshow you will end up with a smaller version and with their trademark. (like they really own these pictures ?)

McLareN
03-04-2008, 01:17 PM
New pics.

Kinda lame quality, but yeah...

McLareN
03-04-2008, 01:19 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 #4:

McLareN
03-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 #5:

Ferrer
03-04-2008, 03:31 PM
I'm still not sure about it, especially around the rear.

Erez_Avital
03-05-2008, 02:15 AM
mmmm.. at last... the Gallardo looks like a lambo!

fisetdavid26
03-05-2008, 11:03 AM
It looks very Murciélago LP640-ish but whatever. Do want.

F1_Master
03-05-2008, 11:04 AM
Those new pics look great!

Lotec_Sirius
03-05-2008, 04:39 PM
Those new pics look great!

You can say that again :D

I can't wait to see a black one

silverhawk
03-05-2008, 11:52 PM
this is what happens when a Reventon and a LP640 have a one night stand. this is my favourite Gallardo.

LeonOfTheDead
03-06-2008, 10:57 AM
this is what happens when a Reventon and a LP640 have a one night stand. this is my favourite Gallardo.

not a happy night, imo.
the gallardo has a real good side view, but the rest of the car was very banal.
it is a supercar, so it ins't supposed to be banal, so that's why i don't like it. this restyling doesn't fit the problem, also beacuse i don't like the "reventòn effect". that's why i never really appreciate the F430, too much similar in to the Enzo.

F1_Master
03-06-2008, 05:13 PM
You can say that again :D

I can't wait to see a black one
Coincidentally, I have a picture of a black one. It's just not big enough to meet this forum's rules though.

Lotec_Sirius
03-06-2008, 05:43 PM
Coincidentally, I have a picture of a black one. It's just not big enough to meet this forum's rules though.

LOL, I had found a couple yesterday right after I posted that, one of them high-res

Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 #6

F1_Master
03-06-2008, 08:16 PM
It looks even better!

dydzi
03-07-2008, 05:10 AM
i was at the premiere of the car, spent much time looking at it... and i gotta say, from the first impression till detailed analysis it looks fabulous, extraordinary, just great. i love the latest lambo's style and this is just best you can get

Lotec_Sirius
03-08-2008, 06:17 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 #7

F1_Master
03-09-2008, 12:07 AM
Looks a LOT better in black!

Clivey
03-09-2008, 05:32 AM
To the people voicing opinions that this car isn't as "good" as the F430:

What kind of idiocy is this? The car's not even out yet - it's not been reviewed or driven by road testers outside of Lamborghini, so how can you make these ridiculous comments?

Yes, it has been said that the "standard" F430 is more involving than the standard Gallardo, and that the Scuderia is more involving than the Superleggera, but this is a new car...so the only sensible thing to do is reserve judgement on all but the looks and the technical specification.

IMO this is as stupid as when the Alfa 8C was voted "UCP COTY" before the first deliveries had even been made.

Personally, this car's looks have taken oooh, about 0.02 of a second to grow on me. I like it a lot. Now where's that comparison with the Scuderia?:cool:

EDIT: I think I know why this car appears to "look better" in black - dark colours make things look smaller and more compact because they reflect less light back at you - white makes this car look too large and too heavy from the rear (judging by the photos) - the original Gallardo and Spyder look fantastic in white, though. I would however like to see an LP560 in white on the road, to make sure I'm not missing something.

Another Italian car that appears to look far better in dark colours is the new Maserati Granturismo - compare the original press photos (silver) with those of the new "S" version (in black) and the car suddenly looks 100% sexier.

Kitdy
03-09-2008, 06:58 PM
IMO this is as stupid as when the Alfa 8C was voted "UCP COTY" before the first deliveries had even been made.

When did that happen? The GT3 won last year and teh R8 this year pending a revote.

Besides, haven't people already reviewed the Alfa?

And what's wrong with voting on a car solely on it's looks?

Clivey
03-09-2008, 07:16 PM
When did that happen? The GT3 won last year and teh R8 this year pending a revote.

EDIT: After looking into it, I came up with this: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/car-comparison/30427-ucp-2006-coty-knock-out-1st-2nd.html - The Alfa has one more vote than the GT3 My point still stands though. - It hadn't been driven or reviewed by anyone outside the company and yet it was considered for COTY. I wouldn't mind, but it could've been in the next year's if we used our brains and actually considered the launch date/the reviews on said car.


And what's wrong with voting on a car solely on it's looks?

That's what the "Automotive Photo Comps" are for...:D

Ferrer
03-09-2008, 11:59 PM
And it's not on looks only. It's the first rear drive Alfa in years and it has a great V8. That surely has to count as well... :p

LeonOfTheDead
03-10-2008, 08:36 AM
And it's not on looks only. It's the first rear drive Alfa in years and it has a great V8. That surely has to count as well... :p

but you couldn't know if it was so good before of its release...
btw, i like the 8C, and i was scared by all of these attention and expectations it was creating...because they were totally abstract. no facts to assure them.

Kitdy
03-10-2008, 10:07 AM
EDIT: After looking into it, I came up with this: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/car-comparison/30427-ucp-2006-coty-knock-out-1st-2nd.html - The Alfa has one more vote than the GT3 My point still stands though. - It hadn't been driven or reviewed by anyone outside the company and yet it was considered for COTY. I wouldn't mind, but it could've been in the next year's if we used our brains and actually considered the launch date/the reviews on said car.

For some reason, I remember checking that thread and seeing that the GT3 had won. My memory failed me yet again.

F1_Master
03-10-2008, 12:50 PM
And it's not on looks only. It's the first rear drive Alfa in years and it has a great V8. That surely has to count as well... :p
And that's about all it has going for it since it's ungodly overpriced car.

fisetdavid26
03-10-2008, 01:27 PM
And that's about all it has going for it since it's ungodly overpriced car.
Lies.

Ferrer
03-10-2008, 01:55 PM
And so what if it's overpirced. So's the Reventon and it's no less great for that.

(And we are going very off topic)

Clivey
03-10-2008, 02:10 PM
For some reason, I remember checking that thread and seeing that the GT3 had won. My memory failed me yet again.

No worries - It happens to us all and I actually believed you for a minute until I went and found the thread again!:D

Just to make my point clear: I'm in no doubt now that the 8C is a very good car, but before a car's launched all you can do is hope - you can't be certain there wont be a "fly in the ointment".

The other thing to consider in this particular case though is, and I'm sorry if I'm about to sound like a Porsche bore, that the 997 GT3 is phenomenal at what it does...

fisetdavid26
03-10-2008, 02:10 PM
And so what if it's overpirced. So's the Reventon and it's no less great for that.

(And we are going very off topic)
Well not really, we are comparing cars... I don't see the usual off-topic crap (lolcat pictures etc.)

Back on topic, overpriced is cheap for such an awesome car.

Clivey
03-10-2008, 02:20 PM
Well not really, we are comparing cars... I don't see the usual off-topic crap (lolcat pictures etc.)

Back on topic, overpriced is cheap for such an awesome car.

I think the phrase you're looking for is: "You can't put a price on style.":cool:

fisetdavid26
03-10-2008, 02:28 PM
I think the phrase you're looking for is: "You can't put a price on style.":cool:
Precisely, son.

Ferrer
03-10-2008, 04:15 PM
No worries - It happens to us all and I actually believed you for a minute until I went and found the thread again!:D

Just to make my point clear: I'm in no doubt now that the 8C is a very good car, but before a car's launched all you can do is hope - you can't be certain there wont be a "fly in the ointment".

The other thing to consider in this particular case though is, and I'm sorry if I'm about to sound like a Porsche bore, that the 997 GT3 is phenomenal at what it does...
There are some cars though, like the Alfa, that are just great.

How it drives, or how fast it is, or the price are completely irrelevant.

F1_Master
03-10-2008, 05:23 PM
Lies.
Yeah, right.

$265,000 for a 450Hp V8 Alfa Romeo? You do realize you can buy the exact same engine with 480Hp for around $170,000 in an actual Ferrari?

And then there's the fact that if you want it in anything but Alfa Red which is what everyone's going to get, there's an extra $6,000 for that, or $22,000 for any other color. $22,000 for anything not on Alfa Romeo's color options. That's a helluva lot more than even Lamborghini will charge you to get a custom paint LP640 ($15,000-$18,000).

Just the simple fact a 430 Scuderia will be cheaper is obvious Alfa Romeo is asking too much. I'll save my $15,000 and buy the 430 Scuderia, thank you.

fisetdavid26
03-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Yeah, right.

$265,000 for a 450Hp V8 Alfa Romeo? You do realize you can buy the exact same engine with 480Hp for around $170,000 in an actual Ferrari?

And then there's the fact that if you want it in anything but Alfa Red which is what everyone's going to get, there's an extra $6,000 for that, or $22,000 for any other color. $22,000 for anything not on Alfa Romeo's color options. That's a helluva lot more than even Lamborghini will charge you to get a custom paint LP640 ($15,000-$18,000).

Just the simple fact a 430 Scuderia will be cheaper is obvious Alfa Romeo is asking too much. I'll save my $15,000 and buy the 430 Scuderia, thank you.
You have valid points, I mostly agree with you. Except I dunno, there's something about the 8C, what we call in French un petit je-ne-sais-quoi that makes it better than the 430 Scuderia. It may not be the best bang for the bucks, but it's definitely one hell of a beautiful car.

The_Canuck
03-10-2008, 05:35 PM
There are some cars though, like the Alfa, that are just great.

How it drives, or how fast it is, or the price are completely irrelevant.

This man speaketh the truth.

F1_Master
03-10-2008, 08:03 PM
You have valid points, I mostly agree with you. Except I dunno, there's something about the 8C, what we call in French un petit je-ne-sais-quoi that makes it better than the 430 Scuderia. It may not be the best bang for the bucks, but it's definitely one hell of a beautiful car.
I'll agree it's a great looking car. But for me and others, we'd like to get more for our money than just a good looking exterior.:)

Ferrer
03-10-2008, 11:59 PM
Yeah, right.

$265,000 for a 450Hp V8 Alfa Romeo? You do realize you can buy the exact same engine with 480Hp for around $170,000 in an actual Ferrari?

And then there's the fact that if you want it in anything but Alfa Red which is what everyone's going to get, there's an extra $6,000 for that, or $22,000 for any other color. $22,000 for anything not on Alfa Romeo's color options. That's a helluva lot more than even Lamborghini will charge you to get a custom paint LP640 ($15,000-$18,000).

Just the simple fact a 430 Scuderia will be cheaper is obvious Alfa Romeo is asking too much. I'll save my $15,000 and buy the 430 Scuderia, thank you.
Only they'll only be making 500, it doesn't have the same engine as the Ferrari and here it costs a little bit less than the Scuderia.

F1_Master
03-11-2008, 05:15 AM
Only they'll only be making 500, it doesn't have the same engine as the Ferrari and here it costs a little bit less than the Scuderia.
Ok, it's a Ferrari-tuned V8. I'd still rather have the real deal regardless of how many they are making in a coupe version, b/c I still find it overpriced for what you get.

Ferrer
03-11-2008, 09:50 AM
Ok, it's a Ferrari-tuned V8. I'd still rather have the real deal regardless of how many they are making in a coupe version, b/c I still find it overpriced for what you get.
Maybe if you look at the preformance but there's so much more. What about the Reventon and the Spykers then?

F1_Master
03-11-2008, 01:01 PM
Maybe if you look at the preformance but there's so much more. What about the Reventon and the Spykers then?
The Spykers are like it, but they're at least somewhat unique.

And the Reventon isn't like this. That's nothing more than a collector's show piece in reality, and isn't being built to compete with anyone. Finding 20 folks to actually pay $1.4 million for a car that has a Lamborghini emblem on it is also a lot easier than Alfa Romeo trying to find 1,000 folks willing to buy this over a Ferrari F430 or 430 Scuderia.

Kitdy
03-11-2008, 02:04 PM
The Spykers are like it, but they're at least somewhat unique.

And the Reventon isn't like this. That's nothing more than a collector's show piece in reality, and isn't being built to compete with anyone. Finding 20 folks to actually pay $1.4 million for a car that has a Lamborghini emblem on it is also a lot easier than Alfa Romeo trying to find 1,000 folks willing to buy this over a Ferrari F430 or 430 Scuderia.

Aren't the 500 orders already sold out? I could see an additional 500 being sold out as well to be honest. Everyone seems to think that the car is so gorgeous.

Clivey
03-12-2008, 10:12 AM
There are some cars though, like the Alfa, that are just great.

How it drives, or how fast it is, or the price are completely irrelevant.

I dunno: Nice-looking cars are actually quite a regular occurrence these days - for me it takes far more to impress, especially at that price point. However, we now know that the 8C is a good car, and with a little more development on the handling side of things, could be a truly legendary one. - We need a "GT3" version with less weight, better suspension and the rear bumper better integrated into the shape of the rear-end (the only slightly imperfect design detail for me)!

Ferrer
03-12-2008, 10:28 AM
I dunno: Nice-looking cars are actually quite a regular occurrence these days...
Are they? Where? I want to be able buy them too... :D

Thing is most cars have been ugiflied from generation to generation these days. Even some that I thought was impossible, like the 307/308.

If that because of regulations or because people like fugly cars I do not know. Even I drive a car that's not exactly what we'd call beautiful.

The 8C (Spider especially) though, has ben one of the very few contemporary cars which I looked at it and thought it was absolutely beautiful, with no need for buts and ifs at all.

LeonOfTheDead
03-12-2008, 01:22 PM
you folks are building a quite good conversation...but i can't remember the last time someone talked about the new gallardo...so i will join you :D... taking a Scuderia against an 8C is a mere question of taste. you can argue between Scuderia and Gallardo Superleggera. since the 8C is built in a limited edition, it cannot be compared with others "standard" cars. with this approach, i could justify even the Reventon, which is a 5 times more expensive LP640, but with a unique style. nothing more. the 8C is a tuned version of a Maserati Gran Turismo and also has a unique style. and in Europe the difference is about 50k €. now, i don't care if the dollar has a bad exchange rate with the euro. is still too much expensive? i still don't know the price of the Gran Turismo S, which is going to have the same engine as the 8C, but it wiill be oviously higher than that of the standard version, so not so far from that of the 8C, which is much more exclusive. you can not like the 8C but it isn't too much expensive. if you would rather prefer a Ferrari because it is "the true one", the only similar car (GT) in the Maranello's line-up is the 599 GTB, much more expensive and at a totally different performance level.

Ferrer
03-12-2008, 04:56 PM
Concerning the 8C it's not as easy as saying it's a Maserati GranTurismo with an Alfa Romeo badge on it. It's a mix of GranTurismo and old Gransport, with bespoke carbonfibre bodywork and a different engine (even from that of the GranTurismo S, a different tune) as well as different settings.

LeonOfTheDead
03-13-2008, 04:33 AM
Concerning the 8C it's not as easy as saying it's a Maserati GranTurismo with an Alfa Romeo badge on it. It's a mix of GranTurismo and old Gransport, with bespoke carbonfibre bodywork and a different engine (even from that of the GranTurismo S, a different tune) as well as different settings.

there's very few of the GranSport underneath the 8C, the first giugiaro's prototype was based on the GranSport, while the development of the final version was made simultaneously with the Granturismo as nearly a super-tuned version, and the Granturismo is based on the Quattroporte chassis (a relative of the 612 platform, for what i can remember...) and powertrain. the old 3200 GT/4200 GT/GranSport project is present only in minor details in the new cars. beside, yes, the engine is not so far from the one you can find in a 4200 GT.
That's why Maserati used its factory without any problems to built the Granturismo right after the 8C, the assembly line was already been updated from the Gransport one.
as regards the settings, they are pretty different between GranTurismo/S and the 8C, and this makes the difference of the price very meaningless, even without considering the gorgeous bodywork. but don't ask me which is the better good looking, i don't want to decide.:)

Roentgen
06-17-2008, 03:03 AM
Poor man's Reventon... awesome.

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 03:13 AM
Poor man's Reventon... awesome.

no, that's the LP640...

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 04:14 AM
no, that's the LP640...
Or maybe the Reventon is the rich man's Murcielago...

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 04:15 AM
Or maybe the Reventon is the rich man's Murcielago...

It's more like a crazy man's Murcielago, as if the LP640 wasnt enough :)

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 04:16 AM
It's more like a crazy man's Murcielago, as if the LP640 wasnt enough :)
Well for a Lambo the LP640 is actually quite sedate.

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 04:20 AM
Well for a Lambo the LP640 is actually quite sedate.

I dont remember many production cars from Lamborghini that pushed it more then the LP640. I mean its more controlable then the Contaches or the Diablos by evolution but its more powerful by far

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 04:29 AM
I dont remember many production cars from Lamborghini that pushed it more then the LP640. I mean its more controlable then the Contaches or the Diablos by evolution but its more powerful by far
I was actually referring to the styling. The doors still open vertically and the radiators move about, but I don't know, for a Lambo is a bit restrained and discreet. I want mad lines, vents everywhere, bulges protruding from the bodywork and 17 exhaust pipes.

Don't get me wrong, I like it very much and it certainly is the last of a line. But it's a bit down on drama and excitement. It has about enough. And that's the problem, you don't want enough drama in a Lambo. You want much much more than enough drama and excitement.

And then they show the Reventon and the Murcielagos shortcomings are thrown into sharp relief.

LeonOfTheDead
06-17-2008, 07:16 AM
I was actually referring to the styling. The doors still open vertically and the radiators move about, but I don't know, for a Lambo is a bit restrained and discreet. I want mad lines, vents everywhere, bulges protruding from the bodywork and 17 exhaust pipes.

Don't get me wrong, I like it very much and it certainly is the last of a line. But it's a bit down on drama and excitement. It has about enough. And that's the problem, you don't want enough drama in a Lambo. You want much much more than enough drama and excitement.

And then they show the Reventon and the Murcielagos shortcomings are thrown into sharp relief.

I understand what you mean and the solution is: make the Reventon standard and discontinue the LP640 ;)

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 07:32 AM
I understand what you mean and the solution is: make the Reventon standard and discontinue the LP640 ;)

then it wont be special anymore...

LeonOfTheDead
06-17-2008, 07:46 AM
then it wont be special anymore...

IMO it's special because of the design, the price is simply stupid and meaningless to make it special. I like it, but I don't accept it to be a special edition worth more than a million euro. I wonder how much money Lamborghini earned for each car :rolleyes:

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 07:52 AM
IMO it's special because of the design, the price is simply stupid and meaningless to make it special. I like it, but I don't accept it to be a special edition worth more than a million euro. I wonder how much money Lamborghini earned for each car :rolleyes:

what makes it special is the special edition numbers, and since its a special edition it had to be built mostly by hand which in turn cranked the price sky high

LeonOfTheDead
06-17-2008, 08:09 AM
what makes it special is the special edition numbers, and since its a special edition it had to be built mostly by hand which in turn cranked the price sky high

imo, it's disproportioned
btw, I wonder if it is possible to actually built body panels in carbon fiber not by hand. The craftsmanship is a good point, but since the overall shape of the car isn't really changed, they didn't need to redevelop the aerodynamic of the car, it's cooling system, but just new settings for suspensions and ECU. it isn't worth all that money imo.
, it lacks those differences from the LP640 to make it really special. for me it's just better looking, more aggressive, it is what the Murcielago should be, but it isn't worth the money.

Gt1Street
06-17-2008, 08:23 AM
imo, it's disproportioned
btw, I wonder if it is possible to actually built body panels in carbon fiber not by hand. The craftsmanship is a good point, but since the overall shape of the car isn't really changed, they didn't need to redevelop the aerodynamic of the car, it's cooling system, but just new settings for suspensions and ECU. it isn't worth all that money imo.
, it lacks those differences from the LP640 to make it really special. for me it's just better looking, more aggressive, it is what the Murcielago should be, but it isn't worth the money.

If you ever worked for a company that sells a product you'll come to the understanding that nothing can be left to chance, absoutly nothing !
I highly doubt it that it didnt go through rigorous aerodynamic tests.

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 08:57 AM
I understand what you mean and the solution is: make the Reventon standard and discontinue the LP640 ;)
That's what the Murcielago should've been in the first place. Much like the CLS should be the E-class.

NSXType-R
06-17-2008, 09:09 AM
That's what the Murcielago should've been in the first place. Much like the CLS should be the E-class.

I don't agree with that. Not everyone wants a crazy sedan as Mercedes' middle of the line offering.

Meanwhile, Lamborghini can afford to do crazy stuff because a Lamborghini is crazy.

I don't agree with the Reventon statement either. I think that a regular LP640 (yay, I don't have to mispell the name anymore!) will still turn heads and is still as recognizable as its more expensive brethren. Both are very good looking, in my opinion, and I can see it's lineage in its body shape back down to the Countach. It may not be as crazy, but I like its clean flowing lines. It's just another take on the classic design.

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 09:20 AM
I don't agree with that. Not everyone wants a crazy sedan as Mercedes' middle of the line offering.
I don't think it's crazy at all. It still is a four door saloon with 4 seats. Make it a five seater and I can't see that it would be much less practical than the E-class.

Furthermore it's the first Mercedes-Benz saloon to exude charisma and elegance since well... since the W112 series form the 60's.

F1_Master
06-17-2008, 09:43 AM
I dont remember many production cars from Lamborghini that pushed it more then the LP640. I mean its more controlable then the Contaches or the Diablos by evolution but its more powerful by far

I'm positive a GT & a SE30 Jota can push it more. The Jota is only down around 40 Bhp and nearly all of the rare articles on it claimed it was the most insane Lamborghini ever built.

NSXType-R
06-17-2008, 09:51 AM
I don't think it's crazy at all. It still is a four door saloon with 4 seats. Make it a five seater and I can't see that it would be much less practical than the E-class.

Furthermore it's the first Mercedes-Benz saloon to exude charisma and elegance since well... since the W112 series form the 60's.

Well its exterior is more radical than most Mercedes designs have been for a while. If they decide to go that route, they may lose some customers in the process. Which is the reason why they marketed it as a niche car, a four door coupe sort of thing and kept the E class instead of phasing that out. I don't see the reason of not giving us more choices. So if you like the CLS, get that instead of the E class.

NSXType-R
06-17-2008, 09:52 AM
I'm positive a GT & a SE30 Jota can push it more. The Jota is only down around 40 Bhp and nearly all of the rare articles on it claimed it was the most insane Lamborghini ever built.

What's a Jota and a GT? Any pictures or specs?

Ferrer
06-17-2008, 10:00 AM
So if you like the CLS, get that instead of the E class.
I will. (If I had the money that is :p)

What's a Jota and a GT? Any pictures or specs?
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/matt-s-hi-res-hide-out/1340-lamborghini-diablo-gt.html
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/matt-s-hi-res-hide-out/13980-lamborghini-diablo-se30.html (Standard SE30)
Specs and info:
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 GT (http://www.qv500.com/lamborghinidiablop9.php)
Lamborghini Diablo SE30 & Jota (http://www.qv500.com/lamborghinidiablop5.php)

LeonOfTheDead
06-17-2008, 11:49 AM
If you ever worked for a company that sells a product you'll come to the understanding that nothing can be left to chance, absoutly nothing !
I highly doubt it that it didnt go through rigorous aerodynamic tests.

I didn't meant they didn't tested the car and its aero, but that it's not totally re-engineered as for the 612 P4/5, since the Reventon and the LP640 are not so different cars.

btw, I have to say, personal experiences, a lot of company left too much thing to chance for my personal "tastes". and they aren't the worst in their markets, but they just focus more on the marketing or in the the way to make money without creating a good product.
not the case of Lamborghini.

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 10:46 AM
Lamborghini LP560 #something

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 10:49 AM
Lamborghini LP560 # +1

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 10:56 AM
Lamborghini LP560 # +2

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 11:00 AM
+3...

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 11:01 AM
+4...

F1_Master
07-06-2008, 02:01 PM
+3...
That last one is pure awesome-ness. :cool:

Sledgehammer
07-06-2008, 05:06 PM
That last one is pure awesome-ness. :cool:

Agreed. It was my favorite of the bunch as well.

TS020
07-08-2008, 08:13 AM
Lamborghini LP560 # +2

The fourth one is ftw.

Ecnelis
09-06-2008, 08:44 AM
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 by Jeremie Paret


Former Editor in Chief of Modify, a French magazine about luxury tuned cars, Jeremie Paret has several years of experience in car tuning. He developed his interest for cars when he was only 15 years old. From this day, his passion and knowledge did not cease to expand. After graduating with a BTS (French diploma) in Mechanical and Conception, he started his journalist career and worked for "Modify" magazine, for which he became Editor in Chief just after 6 months. He, then, quit after two years to create "International Automotive Business", a French car company, and started to share his love for vehicles by providing his services to offer the opportunity for people to have a car which will be in accordance with their tastes. This new company owns the trademark Jeremie Paret and offers to its customers to tune their car by a brand new way, with the best quality and the best expertise possible. Each car Jeremie Paret builds is unique, numbered and tuned in France (IAB takes charge of the transport of the cars). Moreover, a complete suite of services is offered for each customer like a private weblog to allow them to follow their cars tuning progress. Each car is made via the Virtual Tuning process before being made in real to allow the customer to see how will look his car. Each car tuned by Jeremie Paret comes with a certificate of authenticity, a photo book using professional photographers and a luxury keychain with the cars number engraved on it. International Automotive Business decided to only work with the best tuners of France, thats why the consultant and official tuner from Auto-Moto - the first TV show about cars in France - works with Jeremie Paret.

The first project of Jeremie Paret is this Lamborghini Gallardo LP560, with Asanti Diamond wheels and pink brakes. It has carbon fiber side skirts, a front bumper with a Reventon style and a carbon fiber lip, and a bigger rear diffuser. The door handle is in carbon fiber too. The interior is fully customizable, with luxury leather/alcantara seats and parts and an Alpine/Focal In Car Entertainment system.

For more information feel free to send an email to [email protected] or go to our website at Jeremie Paret - Car Stylist - Paris (http://www.jeremieparet.com)

Those rims looks a bit like oilcloth on my kitchen's table (even if it's diamonds ;) ), not mentioning pink brakes... Wonder how it will looks in real. :D

Matt
09-06-2008, 09:00 AM
The brakes aren't pink. These images are CMYK images. The colors are screwed up. Notice the green tint to the windows? Those brakes are red.

aiasib
09-06-2008, 09:13 AM
is that the fleur-de-lys?

fisetdavid26
09-06-2008, 09:34 AM
is that the fleur-de-lys?
Yes, a royal French symbol.

Ecnelis
09-06-2008, 09:36 AM
The brakes aren't pink. These images are CMYK images. The colors are screwed up. Notice the green tint to the windows? Those brakes are red.
But this is virtual vision only and press release says they will do pink brakes.

f6fhellcat13
09-06-2008, 11:30 AM
The brakes aren't pink. These images are CMYK images. The colors are screwed up. Notice the green tint to the windows? Those brakes are red.

The colors don't seem screwed up. It displays the red of the tailights fine, and I ssume that's the color you think the pink is meant to be. Though green tinting seems a bit fishy.

The_Canuck
09-06-2008, 11:57 AM
Doesn't look all that different and the wheels are hideous.

After seeing what coachbuilders can do to cars, tuners seem like small fish.

F1_Master
09-06-2008, 04:11 PM
Those rims cost more than freakin' car.

"Hey guyz. Letz put diamondz in da rims!"
Stupidest damn idea I've ever seen on a car.

f6fhellcat13
09-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Those rims cost more than freakin' car.

"Hey guyz. Letz put diamondz in da rims!"
Stupidest damn idea I've ever seen on a car.

Diamonds are strong. They increase the structural in tegrity of the rimz.

Lulz :p

Roentgen
09-06-2008, 04:38 PM
Those Rims cost $2million USDs I think. I thought they fit those on customs phantoms for rich Arab people...

F1_Master
09-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Those Rims cost $2million USDs I think. I thought they fit those on customs phantoms for rich Arab people...
$2 million, now!? They used to be $1 million with a free Bentley. More money than anything else....

fisetdavid26
09-06-2008, 05:22 PM
They fresh.

Like my J'z.

orshow
09-06-2008, 07:58 PM
What a beautiful car...destroyed by the french.

I'm dissapointed in the final outcome of this, "car stylist's" impression. The LP560 is in a class of it's own, there was no need to destroy it with pinnk brakes and green windows!!


not to mention the diamond rims. Why? Nobody knows...

P.S i am slightly drunk, but i know that this is a disaster waiting to happen.

092326001
09-06-2008, 08:05 PM
the body kit's not bad, but those wheels...horrendous

#1 Mustang Fan
09-06-2008, 08:27 PM
In the first picture, you can't see the pink brakes, the green tints or the horrendous wheels. Yeah its looking okay, but as you get to the next picture it hits you.

LHamilton_w
09-06-2008, 11:24 PM
Garish.................absolutely no taste.


I'd much prefer the "Callisto" rims or the brand new design (not sure of name, the ones used in press release photos).

F1_Master
09-07-2008, 12:31 AM
Garish.................absolutely no taste.


I'd much prefer the "Callisto" rims or the brand new design (not sure of name, the ones used in press release photos).
I think the ones on the press car are Apollo rims. There's another new one though that's a 5-spoke, with a curve on the end.

werty
10-28-2008, 06:57 PM
any high res in that lime green color?

Timothy (in VA)
10-28-2008, 09:27 PM
They're not super high-res, but there's a couple in that color in this gallery at Autoblog: Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/first-drive-2009-lamborghini-gallardo-lp560-4/998265/full/)

LeonOfTheDead
03-24-2009, 11:36 AM
reviving the dead to ask if someone has a shot or more of the Gallardo's chassis, even the mk1 model.

thanks in advance.