Spyker C8 Aileron Coupe 2009-2018

[Duell]

Spyker C8 Aileron Coupe

info see the UCP page (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3630/Spyker-C8-Aileron-Coupe.html)

[Duell]

Spyker C8 Aileron Coupe #2

[Ferrer]

I personally prefer the old nose, but the other changes seem to work well.

[Dino Scuderia]

The design is almost a love it or hate it one...not much in between.

I see them in person every year at Amelia so I'm pretty used to it. For the person who wants something truly unique or if they're somewhat of an airplane enthusiast too...then it fits the bill.

It's difficult to design something really different these days htere are so many cars....you can see the struggle to be different in the new Nissan Maxima and Hyundai Genesis...they end up with odd styling features that seem to only serve the purpose of being different.

[NicFromLA]

This is the version with automatic. Which makes it the lame one. The regular C8 Spider is awesome; like an Elise on 'roids.

[drakkie]

This is the version with automatic. Which makes it the lame one. The regular C8 Spider is awesome; like an Elise on 'roids.

Including some extra fat ;)

[NicFromLA]

Including some extra fat ;)

Not really. That car is almost all aluminum and leather. The C8's extra size and weight are inevitably required to deal with the car's massive power and speed.

[Ferrer]

This is the version with automatic. Which makes it the lame one. The regular C8 Spider is awesome; like an Elise on 'roids.
It's also available with a manual, so that's that sorted.

[2ndclasscitizen]

Pics 3 and 4 in post 1, I quite like that angle of the car.

[ScionDriver]

Spykers look so weird and I feel like I should think they are ugly but I don't. I just don't. I wouldn't buy one but they are definetely something different.

[Duell]

Spykers look so weird and I feel like I should think they are ugly but I don't. I just don't. I wouldn't buy one but they are definitely something different.

I'm with you on that.
But i do think that being different is also a good selling point. You wouldn't want to spend allot of money on a car, and still have a car that looks like a "normal" Corvette or Porsche. Otherwise you should buy a Porsche which would probably be better in any other way. Although the engine sound of a Spyker is a real treat. :D

[drakkie]

Not really. That car is almost all aluminum and leather. The C8's extra size and weight are inevitably required to deal with the car's massive power and speed.

Bullshit ! Extra weight is not neccesarily needed to cope with extra power. Using advanced techniques and materials weight can be easily kept down. However it is very difficult for us engineers to make a compromise between costs and materials/techniques used. But if they wanted, it was possible. So in the end it comes down to some extra weight, but as said, it is not needed :)

[092326001]

i like it but i prefer the looks of the older more rounded and smoother snose

[NicFromLA]

Bullshit ! Extra weight is not neccesarily needed to cope with extra power. Using advanced techniques and materials weight can be easily kept down. However it is very difficult for us engineers to make a compromise between costs and materials/techniques used. But if they wanted, it was possible. So in the end it comes down to some extra weight, but as said, it is not needed :)

It totally is. Spyker uses some of the most advanced techniques for using aluminum in the car industry, but all the technology in the world doesn't change the fact that in order for a car to remain stable and have grip at 200+ mph you're going to need a larger car than an Elise and that does add weight. Plus in order for a car to be able to accommodate a 400hp to 600hp engine you're going to need a lot of structural strength and rigidity which also adds weight. The fact is the C8 Spyder feels like a much faster Elise with reinforcements to accommodate the extra power and speed, and even with those reinforcements the car feels very light and maneuverable.

[drakkie]

It totally is. Spyker uses some of the most advanced techniques for using aluminum in the car industry, but all the technology in the world doesn't change the fact that in order for a car to remain stable and have grip at 200+ mph you're going to need a larger car than an Elise and that does add weight.


A good aerodynamic design can make a lot of difference. The compact size of the Elise does not really help, but with careful testing a lot can be achieved. The Spyker doesnt make it to 200mph anyway.



Plus in order for a car to be able to accommodate a 400hp to 600hp engine you're going to need a lot of structural strength and rigidity which also adds weight.

True but careful engineering can reduce weight. Plus why would you need such a large engine in the first place ? ;)



The fact is the C8 Spyder feels like a much faster Elise with reinforcements to accommodate the extra power and speed, and even with those reinforcements the car feels very light and maneuverable.

Got experience ???

[Waugh-terfall]

Got experience ???

:rolleyes:



I like the look of this new one and its specs are pretty exciteing (must contain myself) Not too keen on the Audi steeringwheel minus the metalwork, or the alloys but glad to see the exposed gear-linkage is still there. Only eveer seen one Spyker, would be very glad indeed to see another one, if not just to overtake it again :p

[2ndclasscitizen]

Plus why would you need such a large engine in the first place ? ;)

A 4.2 is a large engine?

[Ferrer]

Not too keen on the Audi steeringwheel minus the metalwork
That's because they need to be able to fit an airbag.

[dydzi]

This is the version with automatic. Which makes it the lame one. The regular C8 Spider is awesome; like an Elise on 'roids.

many clients wanted an automatic so they needed to make one. besides, that's why the tail of the car is now much bigger - to accomodate the auto 'box

[Wouter Melissen]

many clients wanted an automatic so they needed to make one. besides, that's why the tail of the car is now much bigger - to accomodate the auto 'box

Have you ever seen a C8 Double S, or the new C8 Laviolette LWB. Neither has an automatic gearbox.

[dydzi]

Have you ever seen a C8 Double S, or the new C8 Laviolette LWB. Neither has an automatic gearbox.

that's what victor muller said at the conference when launching the car

[drakkie]

A 4.2 is a large engine?

Yes it is.

[Waugh-terfall]

not really, 8.3 Viper, Ram SRT? 5.4Supercharged SLK, CLK, CLS, C-Class, E-Class, ML-Class, G-Wagen? 6.3 CLK, CLS, C-Class, E-Class, ML-Glass? 5.7 Monaro? 6.0 Monaro VXR/OPC? 6.0Supercharged Monaro VXR-500? 7.0 Corvette? 6.1 Grand Cherokee SRT-8? 5.9 R8 V12-TDI?


They need airbags now? F**king EU legislations, the old wheel was so cool, I mean, if you crashed, what a way to go?!

[LeonOfTheDead]

Have you ever seen a C8 Double S, or the new C8 Laviolette LWB. Neither has an automatic gearbox.

i guess you were referring to the C8 Double Twelve.

Since spyker wants to sell cars in the US, i think an automatic is quite usefull, even if a "stupid" choice, for the buyer i mean...i am still not so happy about electro-actuated gearbox. of course i never drove such cars, but i feel it is a contradictory choise to buy a sportcar without a manual gearbox. i think this is one of the reasons porsche gt3 rs wins the ECOTY against the 430 scuderia (anyone who reads EVO magazine???)

[Waugh-terfall]

I'm with him on the EVO thing actually. I'm glad Porsche only does 6-spds for the 'hard-core' models, Porsche's are meant to be very involving finely honed drivers cars. Why are the americans fo f**king lazy!? (NOT ALL OF THEM, JUST STEREOTYPICALLY!!!!!)

[LeonOfTheDead]

Why are the americans fo f**king lazy!? (NOT ALL OF THEM, JUST STEREOTYPICALLY!!!!!)

it's a strange thing...i though there were a lot of differences between american and european people, for example, because of history, that is to say, for how much time a country, so a population, has been in contact with something. for example, for some region have been continuously in contact with artistic revolutions or streams, and you can see it in their products, artistic and none. my point, which is going to be not so clear thanks to my english, is this: cars and racing cars are a very recent discovering, they (american) had races old as some european ones. they had very good cars, with tradition and history. so, why, since 50 years, imo, they are so different for as regard cars and driving? the overused answer is "beacuse of different territory". yes, but even Europe has different kind of roads, and btw a very few people use to drive for hours on straight streets and for this they need an auto...my father was one of them and was about to take an auto on his last car, but he didn't and btw he is 60, so he has the right to be lazy. they had car enthusiasts too, so why automatic gearbox is so diffused???

the only reason to have an auto on a car like an F430, or eventually a Spyker, is to use the "snow" program when the road is not so good for all the power you have behind you.

[Ferrer]

I'm with him on the EVO thing actually. I'm glad Porsche only does 6-spds for the 'hard-core' models, Porsche's are meant to be very involving finely honed drivers cars. Why are the americans fo f**king lazy!? (NOT ALL OF THEM, JUST STEREOTYPICALLY!!!!!)
I doubt it's a US problem mainly for Spyker.

More likely the middle east petrodollar financed countries.

[f6fhellcat13]

New one.

(from Spyker Press Release)

World debut for the production version of the Spyker C8 Aileron at the Salon International de l’Automobile in Geneva

Zeewolde, the Netherlands, 3 March 2009 - Spyker Cars, manufacturer of exclusive premium sports cars since 2000, today proudly introduces the production version of its all-new second-generation sports car: the Spyker C8 Aileron, the prototype of which was shown at Geneva in 2008.
Victor R. Muller, Spyker Cars’ founder and Chief Executive Officer said on the occasion of the unveiling: “When we unveiled the C8 Aileron prototype here last year, we wanted to make a clear statement to the industry that Spyker was about to take the next step in its short but intense history, by introducing its second-generation sports cars, developed from scratch. Within a year we transformed that prototype into the production-ready car we show here today. The first cars are being built now with customer production and deliveries starting in May 2009.
The C8 Aileron’s design is heavily inspired by Spyker’s aviation heritage, as was the case with all previous models, but with a clear emphasis on the second-generation aircraft propulsion: the turbine rather than the propeller that adorned so many elements of the first-generation cars. Similarly the “Aileron” name pays tribute to that aviation heritage.
It is the device that makes an aircraft turn and symbolizes the turning point that the Aileron is for Spyker: the car which will turn the company towards long-awaited profitability.”

SPYKER C8 AILERON: A COMPLETELY NEW CAR

All-Aluminium Space frame Chassis
The Spyker C8 Aileron’s all-aluminium space frame was completely redesigned from scratch with the
objective to increase torsional rigidity and to incorporate an all-new suspension system. These
characteristics provide an ideal foundation for enhanced vehicle dynamics.
Moreover, the C8 Aileron’s dimensions have been optimised for more interior space and to
accommodate the optional automatic gearbox. Compared to the short wheelbase of the firstgeneration
cars - the Spyker C8 Laviolette and C8 Spyder - the wheelbase of the C8 Aileron is 150 mm
longer, also providing for more driving comfort and stability at high speeds. Its front track has
increased by 155 mm. The total dimensions of the front and rear track are now 1625 mm and 1645
mm respectively, which improves road handling significantly.
Spyker has put tremendous efforts in the space frame performance of the C8 Aileron, specifically the
structure’s efficiency. The utilisation of modern finite element and numerical optimization methods has
allowed Spyker’s engineers to arrive at an exceptionally stiff structure of 22.000Nm/degree. Rigidnode
and load-path technology has been employed in order to ensure that the minimum amount of
aluminium is used to achieve this performance, thus reducing the overall weight of the vehicle. The
dynamic stiffness characteristics of the structure have been carefully tuned in order to minimize
unwanted cabin noises and vibrations, which may otherwise detract from the driving experience.
These technologies and measures have allowed Spyker to arrive at the most efficient chassis in its
history.

[f6fhellcat13]

Design

The design of the hand-crafted Spyker C8 Aileron represents the latest evolution of Spyker’s signature
architecture, which is prominently inspired by the company’s aviation heritage. In the first-generation
cars, the propeller design was consistently applied to many elements of the cars. Within the design of
the new Spyker C8 Aileron, the emphasis was shifted from the propeller propulsion to the turbine
propulsion. As a result, for instance, the bright polished air inlets were converted into turbine-engineshaped
air scoops.

In order to enhance the aerodynamic performance of the car, several changes in styling were made,
such as stretching the canopy backwards. Most of the shark-like gills have been abandoned, which
results in a cleaner, smoother appearance. The front end is now characterised by a larger grille that
gives additional cooling. Also the rear diffuser was redesigned for improved functionality. An extra
spoiler has been placed under the diffuser, providing additional downforce to boost the ground effect
produced by the diffuser.

Sometimes practicality gains over design: the split side windows with the characteristic metal frame
have been replaced by single-pane side windows that are fully retractable, improving driving comfort.
The outside mirrors, standard in body colour, were redesigned and the mirror body is mounted on two
turbine fan blades.

The rear lights are made of LEDs (light-emitting diodes). LED lights were also used for the indicators
and the sidelights in the redesigned headlight units. The style of the headlights is particularly eyecatching as they follow the body design more closely. This characteristic styling can be defined as a part of the (future) Spyker identity first seen on the Spyker C12 Laturbie and subsequently in the
Spyker D8 Peking-to-Paris. In fact, the latter will use the identical headlight units to those of the
Aileron.

The C8 Aileron is available in 16 standard colours, but customers may choose any colour they wish as
an option, as well as the Spyker Squadron GT2 colour scheme. The standard colours have been
developed by Sikkens Autolakken Nederland and AkzoNobel Car Refinishes. Spyker selected these
companies because of their high quality standards and their flexibility to meet with special
requirements. Some of the standard colours have been created especially for the C8 Aileron.

Power train

The Spyker C8 Aileron will use the Audi 4.2 litre V8 engine, giving 400 bhp and will be available with
two transmission alternatives. The first one is a 6-speed Getrag manual gearbox, with ratios perfectly
matched to the V8 engine. This is joined by a ZF 6-speed automatic gearbox, which comes standard
with paddle shifts behind the steering wheel, to progress smoothly through the ratios. Both
transmissions retain Spyker’s trademark exposed gear change mechanism.

Interior

Thanks to the longer chassis, the Spyker C8 Aileron has more interior space, which results in a higher
comfort level and improved ergonomics. The interior, with its typical attention to detail, is made of the
highest quality leather, from the Litano range of the Dutch Royal Tannery Hulshof. The leather interior
is available in 14 standard colours, but any other colour – if desired by the customer – can be ordered
as an option.
Driver and passenger sit low, close to the car’s centre of gravity, where they can feel the car reacting
to the input of the driver, for a direct and sporting connection between car and driver.
The dashboard was completely redesigned to suit the new Spyker identity and to improve ergonomics
and functionality. Air vents are designed in turbine style and the performance and distribution of the
air conditioning was improved significantly. A multifunctional LCD display is integrated between the
speedometer and the odometer. The middle console accommodates the standard Kharma sound
system (see In-Car Entertainment). Chronoswiss dials and switches are available as an option.
More space was created around the Spyker characteristic floor-mounted pedal box. The impression of
professional functionality and ergonomic styling is enhanced by the optimised positioning of the door
handle and the hand-brake lever.

[f6fhellcat13]

In-Car Entertainment

With larger numbers of cars going into the market and the increased popularity of the iPod and similar
products, the demand for a standard sound system fitted by the factory increased. As a result, every
Spyker C8 Aileron will be equipped as standard with a Kharma sound system, incorporating a digital
radio, Bluetooth interface, an iPod connectivity and a navigation system. The Kharma sound system
offers joystick controls on the central console and a dashboard display, paired to 6 Kharma
loudspeakers. It can be extended with two optional audio packages.

The presence of a Kharma sound system in the Spyker C8 Aileron marks Kharma’s debut in the world
of automotive entertainment. Kharma International produces high-end audio products and sells
worldwide through a network of highly qualified distributors and dealers. All sound systems are
developed, assembled and tested in the Netherlands, with the utmost care by a team of highly
engaged specialists. These characteristics of high-quality products and exclusiveness are in line with
Spyker’s brand values craftsmanship and exclusivity.

Suspension & Wheels

The C8 Aileron is fitted with a brand-new front and rear independent double-wishbone suspension
system. The new suspension system includes a new kinematic layout of the front and rear suspension, front and rear stabilizer bars, mono-tube dampers, coil over damper steel springs, anti-dive and antisquat setup for improved handling properties. The suspension components are made of forged
aluminium where possible, to keep the vehicle’s unsprung weight as low as possible. Shock absorbers
are now placed vertically within the wishbones.
The Aeroblade™ wheels of the first-generation cars are replaced by newly-designed 19-inch alloy
wheels. New 10-blade, 19-inch directional rotor wheels, branded Rotorblade™, are available as an
option. These wheels are inspired by the turbine blades of a jet engine, which hints the new styling
direction while respecting the aviation heritage. The 235/35 size tyres at the front and up to 295/30 at
the rear provide the necessary road holding.

Brakes

Brakes are supplied by AP Racing, a partner from day one. Black brake calipers with Spyker script are standard. Colour-coded calipers with Spyker script can be ordered as an option. Carbon ceramic
brakes will be available as an option soon.

[f6fhellcat13]

Last two.
EDIT: 4.2 liter V8
400hp

[LeonOfTheDead]

I still think the round air intakes seem to much "attached" to the car rather than a part of it, but the restyling of the rear end is perfect, and even the front evolved for the better from the Concept to the production version. The Gallardo steering wheel doesn't fit the car, it should have some part made of aluminum at least.
I like it, and I don't care if it isn't a good performer as the Laviolette.
wondering about the price, if it's going to be cheaper than the Laviolette though.
now give me the D!

[Duell]

Spyker C8 Aileron Coupe,

but nothing new, just old pictures which were never posted.

[Duell]

Spyker C8 Aileron Coupe #8

[ScionDriver]

Does Spyker still exist? I see they went belly up but I can't find if they are still making cars.

[Duell]

They still exist, but after shipping there production facility to England and producing no cars there. They went there because of Vladimir Antonov was funding Spyker/Saab and he had the TVR facility there.

But after that alll went wrong. I have read that they are returning to The Netherlands. But after that it gets dark. Who knows. ;)