Vauxhall VX 220 Turbo Vs Lotus Exige S2

[Niko_Fx]

Vauxhall VX 220 Turbo

Weight: 930Kg/2050.3Lbs
Engine: Straight 4 200HP
Aspiration: Turbo
Drive: Rear Wheel Drive

0-60: 4.7 Secs
Top Speed: 152.2Mph/245Kph



Lotus Exige S2

Weight: 879Kg/1929Lbs
Engine: Straight 4 189HP
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Drive: Rear Wheel Drive

0-60: 4.9 Secs
Top Speed: 147.3Mph/237Kph

Credit on the second picture goes to Matra et Alpine (Hope you don't mind)

[Sweeney921]

Exige, simply because it keeps with the Vauxhall without a turbo

[Matra et Alpine]

no prob with the pic, if it's up here I've kinda relinquished copyright :)

The VX220 is more aligned to the Elise as a soft top.
It has a few more internal comforts too.

Comparing it with the Exige is a performance choice, I'd have rather seen all 3 in :)

Don't know why they didn't opt for a US version.
Left it wide open for Lotus to clean up :)

[GT500]

Vauxhall but not by much, only because it has more "creature comforts" than the Exige. Also, the styling appeals to me more, like the Speedster better though because it doesn't have the V.....but w/e. Even if the Exige can keep up, where are you gonna go fast anyways?

[crisis]

Is this not essentially the same chassis?

[Matra et Alpine]

Is this not essentially the same chassis?
Well it's aluminium :)
No seriously, it is based on the concept as Lotus did the design engineering on the car. But less than 10% of the cars is common !!
The VX220 chassis is wider, heavier and longer to accomodate the GM engine.

[Spastik_Roach]

Be awesome to buy the Exige and fettle around with the motor a little, that would easily put it up to 200hp, then add a turbo and WOOMPH!

[Matra et Alpine]

Be awesome to buy the Exige and fettle around with the motor a little, that would easily put it up to 200hp, then add a turbo and WOOMPH!
:sobs:
More power isn't always better.
The Exige has been designed and tested by professional racing drivers and fettled in a one make race series to be the best balance.
Increase the power and you woul dneed to increase the brakes adn up the braking and more tyres, then you would need to add servo assitnace. This removes feel.
So you have a heavier Exige, with less feel, and inferior handling.
To all who suggest changes, great for dreaming, but you want to experience one and realise that it's as close to optimal as it gets :)
Some of the new electric assistance could prove interesting to add once it becomes cheaper, but please not more weight.
( Pleaes any more discusison on this in the Lotus Exige engine thread or wear a surgical gown and enter the Engine 101 thread :) )

[Falcon500]

I like both cars...tough choice...
Lotus has the looks, NA power and a great history...but isalso a pommy car,smaller (not neciserly a bad thing me being a short bloke and all) slightly slower and some what missing creature comforts (also not a bad thing)
But the Vauxhall has Brand (GM product...double edged sword more affordable parts and service...not as well known as reliable) isnt english and is the same BRAND my father raced in :rolleyes:
I guess i vote vauxhall...more preferable brand to me, slightly better performance and the interior i have seen was very nice :)

[Matra et Alpine]

I like both cars...tough choice...
Lotus has the looks, NA power and a great history...but isalso a pommy car,smaller (not neciserly a bad thing me being a short bloke and all) slightly slower and some what missing creature comforts (also not a bad thing)
But the Vauxhall has Brand (GM product...double edged sword more affordable parts and service...not as well known as reliable) isnt english and is the same BRAND my father raced in :rolleyes:
I guess i vote vauxhall...more preferable brand to me, slightly better performance and the interior i have seen was very nice :)
hmmm, not sure where assembly is.
but the engineering you're buying is Lotus and GMs European platform engine/box.
The Lotus uses Rover egnine platform.
I'd have put both in the same box for parts price and availability :(
Deler servicing options will be the big choice.
Presumably Holden's will do the VX220 in Oz, don't know who they'd get to do Lotus.

[Falcon500]

Well now that im past the boyish i want that car because its cool stage...now that im seriously looking at buying a flash car (Mr2s have found thier way onto my list too) practicality and priceng is right up there with looks and performance...the vauxhall shares a common engine with the Astra turbo(holdens hot hatch) so i assume holden could do it that way....lotus would be done through a specialist dealer..or prehaps the proton dealer might be able to help....they own lotus but really i have no idea?...another up is i work in a holden part room and get trade prices another up there...
English cars have a terrible wrap in this country which wouldent help lotus' cuase here either...but that said i see more lotus automobiles here then vauxhall...
And another thing...we might get opel sheet metal on our version (final nail in the coffin) which i dont rate as highly as the vauxhall....same car doughy looks...
Id have to find out the price of the vauxhall (FPV you read wheels any idea?) to really figure it out but practicality wise it has it over the lotus here with a shared engine and similar driveline with out astra....

[Coventrysucks]

Put quite simply:

The Lotus has "It"
The Vaux-dull doesn't :)

[Matra et Alpine]

Put quite simply:

The Lotus has "It"
The Vaux-dull doesn't :)
At least it's better than the "Opel Speedster" which has a VERY borign front end. The Vauxhall deep V works well !!

[Niko_Fx]

I love the looks of the Lotus, and it is probably the one I would really choose, it is a beautiful ride.

Two things made me vote for the Vauxhall though.
-The video that you can see here: http://www.vauxhall.com/microsites/...rbo/intro.jhtml
(Matra gets the credit again :))
-I knew it would get the less votes :)


Both are pretty even in acceleration, top speed, weight, probably handling, HP, etc... I would love to test drive them both :)

[Coventrysucks]

I am not questioning the design of the Vauxhall, I think it is quite good, although I do prefer the S2 Elise.

The problem is; it is a Vauxhall, and the problem is that the very mention of the name provokes images of Astras, Vectras and the Frontera, not the VX220 and Monaro.

I have the same problem with Japanese cars, especially Toyota, I can never remember what sports cars they produce, just the rather boring Avensis.

I remember reading somewhere that GM needs to create a new brand for upmarket cars in the UK, like ressurecting the Opel badge, and using that for the sports and "luxury" cars. :)

[fuzzyp]

Vauxhall VX 220 Turbo

Weight: 930Kg/2050.3Lbs
Engine: Straight 4 200HP
Aspiration: Turbo
Drive: Rear Wheel Drive

0-60: 4.7 Secs
Top Speed: 152.2Mph/245Kph



Lotus Exige S2

Weight: 879Kg/1929Lbs
Engine: Straight 4 189HP
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Drive: Rear Wheel Drive

0-60: 4.9 Secs
Top Speed: 147.3Mph/237Kph

Credit on the second picture goes to Matra et Alpine (Hope you don't mind)
i'd rather have the lotus!

[jcp123]

Vaux. Simply looks better to me. Plus I'm sure the turbo gives a faltter torque curve, always something I'm down for.

[andy.muc]

My vote goes to the Exige.
Neither do i like the look of the Speedster nor do i like the look of the Vauxhall-version.
So the choice is quite simple for me...

[aNOBLEman]

I like both of the cars. Although I would have to go with the Lotus because of the very balanced aspects of the car. Also I like the bare bones approach. Can somone get handling figures for both cars?