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DasModell
05-08-2004, 12:38 PM
i need help identifying the second car .. the pic is rather small but if anybody can help :)

http://www.amalia.ro/brasov.JPG

Matra et Alpine
05-08-2004, 02:04 PM
i need help identifying the second car .. the pic is rather small but if anybody can help :)
Do you have any idea on where or when it was taken ?

UK CARS
05-08-2004, 02:26 PM
i think the first one is a buggati :confused:
the second one's double back wheels is odd, havent seen that before.....i dont know that much on pre 50's cars. :(

Matra et Alpine
05-08-2004, 02:42 PM
i think the first one is a buggati :confused:
the second one's double back wheels is odd, havent seen that before.....i dont know that much on pre 50's cars. :(
As speeds climbed in the early days of racing the biggest problem was keeping the early tyres on the rims and getting enough grip from them.
At various times everybody played with twin rear wheels to get more rubb, more grip and safer racing. Knowing where the photowas taken will help reuce the huge list of possibilities to consider looking for that distinctive rounded body shape - again much copied :)

DasModell
05-08-2004, 02:42 PM
the location and date doesn't help that much . it is said that the photo was taken in Romania more exact . in Brasov (city) . in the early 1950's . more i don't know

UK CARS
05-08-2004, 02:44 PM
As speeds climbed in the early days of racing the biggest problem was keeping the early tyres on the rims and getting enough grip from them.
At various times everybody played with twin rear wheels to get more rubb, more grip and safer racing. Knowing where the photowas taken will help reuce the huge list of possibilities to consider looking for that distinctive rounded body shape - again much copied :)


oh rearly! thanks for that bit of info ;)

DasModell
05-08-2004, 02:45 PM
my instinct says it a french car .. but i've seen this rounded shape .. in Mercedes cars and also Bugatti too . but these cars are 20's cars . i don;t think somebody would have raced it in the 50's

eyebrows
05-08-2004, 09:23 PM
what about an alfa?

henk4
05-08-2004, 11:20 PM
I really can't imagine that somebody would race a prewar bugatti in the early fifties and certainly not in Romania. Motor racing was not very popular in the post war communist countries. But if it is indeed in romania, than I would suggest it's a one off special that may have just been lapped again by the bug.

DasModell
05-08-2004, 11:51 PM
pre war it looks like there was even a Bucharest GP in 1937,38,39.. so the thing i'm really not sure . is the date . i would think it could be something around those years ..
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1937.html#9
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1938.html#20
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1939.html#15

henk4
05-09-2004, 12:03 AM
pre war it looks like there was even a Bucharest GP in 1937,38,39.. so the thing i'm really not sure . is the date . i would think it could be something around those years ..
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1937.html#9
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1938.html#20
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1939.html#15

That was what I was trying to say, your picture is distinctly older than the fifties, and could actually be taken in the mid ro late twenties. The Bucharest GP was obviously for two seaters, as the BMW 328 won all the time. But to be honest I have no clue about the car.

DasModell
05-09-2004, 12:20 AM
I found some info :)
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/4582/sport.htm .
so it was 1934 :)

DasModell
05-09-2004, 12:24 AM
it had to be Calcianu . cause i know he worked for Bugatti ..:) . now that we got the year . it remains to find the car :(

henk4
05-09-2004, 12:30 AM
it had to be Calcianu . cause i know he worked for Bugatti ..:) . now that we got the year . it remains to find the car :(

There must be a starting grid somewhere, but I would not be surprised if it a locally built special;

DasModell
05-09-2004, 12:52 AM
new Info .. it looks like there have been a GP of Brasov in 1936 too .. and found that a ford V8(Cristea) classified after a Bugatti(Carp) and a Duessenberg(J.Calcianu) .. and if this is the race in the picture . it could be a Duessy ..

henk4
05-09-2004, 01:05 AM
new Info .. it looks like there have been a GP of Brasov in 1936 too .. and found that a ford V8(Cristea) classified after a Bugatti(Carp) and a Duessenberg(J.Calcianu) .. and if this is the race in the picture . it could be a Duessy ..

My money would be on the Ford.

dracu777
09-13-2005, 09:35 AM
What happened to the pix posted by DasModell? Am I the only one that cannot see them?

forza_autodelta
09-13-2005, 10:44 AM
no , unfortunately , I can't see them too , it's unjust:(

Esperante
09-13-2005, 07:47 PM
What happened to the pix posted by DasModell? Am I the only one that cannot see them?
It was probably deleted in the year and a half this thread has been dead.