Brazilian Astra vs European Astra

[piledriver]

Which do you think is more beautifull between these Astra...
front of the brazilian Chevrolet Astra
http://chev2.chevrolet.com.br/veiculos/astra/astra_wall2b.jpg
back
http://chev2.chevrolet.com.br/veiculos/astra/astra_wall3b.jpg

front of the Opel Astra
http://www.opel.ie/content_data/GME/019/common/035/vehicleimages/0T/gallery_800_1.jpg

the brazilian is a lot more beautifull!!!
:cool:

[motormaniac]

the car in the first pic

[badboybarge]

here in australia we have the original opel design and they've been very succesful, the chevrolet one doesn't look too bad, but it seems everytime they get their hands on an original design, they re-design it and make it look VERY aggressive.
but it doesn't looke too bad.

this is my favorite astra, it just loox really damn hot!

badboy

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by badboybarge
here in australia we have the original opel design and they've been very succesful, the chevrolet one doesn't look too bad, but it seems everytime they get their hands on an original design, they re-design it and make it look VERY aggressive.
but it doesn't looke too bad.

this is my favorite astra, it just loox really damn hot!

badboy

hey it's damn cool

[piledriver]

Here in Brazil the Astra is a really success and until this year, the model was equal to the Opel model, but they made some changes to its design in order to keep it up to date...
Both models are cool, but the updated brazilian, is more agressive, because its front end, the renewed lights and the grill...
it´s a pitty that the "most powerfull" engine used here is a 2.0 16V with around 130 hp... and not the turbo engine used in europe...

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by piledriver
Here in Brazil the Astra is a really success and until this year, the model was equal to the Opel model, but they made some changes to its design in order to keep it up to date...
Both models are cool, but the updated brazilian, is more agressive, because its front end, the renewed lights and the grill...
it´s a pitty that the "most powerfull" engine used here is a 2.0 16V with around 130 hp... and not the turbo engine used in europe...

could u post a picture?

[piledriver]

I think it´s not necessary, ´cos the car is the same, exactly equal to the opel one of the third pic above... the only difference is that they changed the opel simbol by the chevrolet one...
I will try to find some pic of the car...

[motorhead]

hey chevrolet is under GM you all know right ya so when GM bought opel they put it under chevy thats why for a moment their badges changed - until the new vectra came out

[motormaniac]

it still looks better

[Razo]

They both look pretty much the same, but with a few minor styling tweaks. I'd say the Chevy looks slightly better.

[piledriver]

Originally posted by motorhead
hey chevrolet is under GM you all know right ya so when GM bought opel they put it under chevy thats why for a moment their badges changed - until the new vectra came out

the motivation for these design changes is that the new astra that is coming for 2004/2005 in europe, will not come to Brazil... as well as the new vectra...
:(

[motorhead]

oh man what a waste because the new vectra does look nice though

[piledriver]

Originally posted by motorhead
oh man what a waste because the new vectra does look nice though

I know man... and I don´t know why they don´t bring us some cars like the new vectra, vectra coupe, astra coupe, astra wagon...
they just bring us small cars with low power...
the most powerfull GM engine produced here is the 2.0 16V... despite this, there´s the 3.8 V6 that comes with Chevrolet Omega... but it´s imported...

[piledriver]

The best sellers in Brazil are cars like the cevrolet celta... I like its design, but the engine is a 1.0 8V VHC with "incredibles" 70cv... :D

what do you think about its design??
http://www.cliente.chevroletonline.com.br/section2/flash/wallpaper_02_800.jpg
http://www.cliente.chevroletonline.com.br/section2/flash/wallpaper_03_800.jpg

[kinan.f]

I'm not so sure if you can compare this SS chevy with the standard german Opel.I think this is unfair.
Guys at OPC are making cool additions to the original OPELs.Somehow they look more ELEGANT than the Brasilian version.The SW that Badboy attached an image of & this Coupe from OPC are just fabulous.....

[kinan.f]

OOps I forgot to attach the image...
Here is OPC ASTRA coupe:

[motormaniac]

nice car

[piledriver]

very nice one... what are its specs??

Talking about looking, I still prefer the brazilian version...it´s more agressive than this OPC one...

[kinan.f]

2.0 litres 4 cyl unit with turbo charger.192 bhp,hitting the 100 kmh in just 7.00 secs.

[motormaniac]

that is fast for this kinda car

[piledriver]

The best specs of the brazilian version is a 2.0 4 cylinder 16V with 136 cv and they say it´s a sportive car...
:o

[motormaniac]

accelration time?

[piledriver]

I think is lower than 10 seconds...
but this time is not exactly...

[motormaniac]

not bad, an average time

[piledriver]

Originally posted by motormaniac
not bad, an average time

for an everyday car, I agree that is an average, but as it is called a sport car, it has a poor performance...

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by piledriver
for an everyday car, I agree that is an average, but as it is called a sport car, it has a poor performance...

yeah is there any more mods for this thing?

[motorhead]

Originally posted by kinan.f
I'm not so sure if you can compare this SS chevy with the standard german Opel.I think this is unfair.
Guys at OPC are making cool additions to the original OPELs.Somehow they look more ELEGANT than the Brasilian version.The SW that Badboy attached an image of & this Coupe from OPC are just fabulous.....
how many of those cars do they produce and most of OPC cars are not even in production

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by motorhead
how many of those cars do they produce and most of OPC cars are not even in production

talk abt the opel frogster

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by motorhead
how many of those cars do they produce and most of OPC cars are not even in production

very very little

[motorhead]

Originally posted by motormaniac
very very little
ya like how little - 50-100???

[piledriver]

Originally posted by motormaniac
yeah is there any more mods for this thing?

there are some models with 2.0 8V engines, 1.8 8V engines...
sedans, hatchs, but not a coupe... nor a van...
no one with a impressive performance...

[motormaniac]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by piledriver
there are some models with 2.0 8V engines, 1.8 8V engines...
sedans, hatchs, but not a coupe... nor a van...
no one with a impressive performance... [/QUOTE

ok then this is a normal car

[piledriver]

Unfortunately, you´re right!!!
:p

[motorhead]

Originally posted by motormaniac
[QUOTE]Originally posted by piledriver
there are some models with 2.0 8V engines, 1.8 8V engines...
sedans, hatchs, but not a coupe... nor a van...
no one with a impressive performance... [/QUOTE

ok then this is a normal car
finally you realised it

[piledriver]

today I read that the new generatio Astra will be launched in next september... and there are speculations its design will be derived from the Opel GTC Genéve concept...
Here in Brazil it should be launched in 2005....
let´s wait...

[motorhead]

Originally posted by piledriver
today I read that the new generatio Astra will be launched in next september... and there are speculations its design will be derived from the Opel GTC Genéve concept...
Here in Brazil it should be launched in 2005....
let´s wait... ok good start for the new astraand hopefully it survives well

[Homem de Gelo]

O Astra novo é horrível, EMO.

The new Astra is horrible, IMO.

[motorhead]

Originally posted by Arcanjo
O Astra novo é horrível, EMO.

The new Astra is horrible, IMO. well to you it is but not to many of us here

[piledriver]

I didn´t see any pics of the new astra yet... so I couldn´t tell my opinion...
anybody has any pic of it??

[motorhead]

he saisd the styling of the new astra is going to be heavily influenced by the GTC concepts so it should turn out good

[motormaniac]

Originally posted by motorhead
he saisd the styling of the new astra is going to be heavily influenced by the GTC concepts so it should turn out good

i got pics, but can post it here

some format stuff

looks ok

[piledriver]

here we have the Stock Light Astra...
A brand new competition with the new looking brazilian Chevrolet Astra...
it has tube frame chassis with the old and reliable Chevrolet I6 with aprox 350 HP...
http://www.stockcar.com.br/imagens/galeria_fotos/2003_saopaulo_julho/baltazar.jpg

http://www.stockcar.com.br/imagens/galeria_fotos/2003_saopaulo_julho/marcelo_reis.jpg

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