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ErWin76
12-20-2008, 12:58 PM
One of my favorite cars have new version. Not the most prettiest one ,but something special.

For 2008, Morgan sees the start of production of the new 4.8 litre V8 version of the Aero 8. The latest BMW V8 engine takes Morgan performance to the next level.

The new engine adds 13% more power, raising output to 367Bhp, giving a power to weight ratio of over 315 Bhp/tonne, enough to propel the car from 0 – 60 mph in just 4.2 seconds and on to a top speed of 170 mph.

New for Morgan is an automatic gearbox option. ZF’s latest 6 HP26 six speed gives even better performance than a manual gearbox due to its special lock up clutch, low power loss design and instant change characteristic. The automatic is useable either as a full automatic for more relaxed driving or in sport manual mode when the bespoke gear lever will hold the engine revs up to the maximum in each gear, increase change speed and ‘blip’ the throttle to smooth down changes.

The efficiency of the new engine and gearbox combination deliver the extra power and performance with a reduction in CO2 emissions. Thanks to Morgan’s clever lightweight design and efficient engine/gearbox combination the European drive cycle emission level, at 260 g/km, proves supercar performance does not need to come at enormous cost to the environment.
New instrumentation, a repositioned fuel tank for better weight distribution and significantly increased luggage space and larger air intakes and exits on the wings distinguish the new model.

LeonOfTheDead
12-20-2008, 02:06 PM
I could be good for the hide-out


this car is really something special, it connected the retro look to modern days appearance, before also Wiesmann did it brilliantly too.
even if this last iteration lost some of its class and elegant look, just because of small details like the black rims and the side vents right after the front wheels, it's still something unique and astonishing to look at, it almost raise the question if all the technology we are used to in modern cars it's really useful.
this car looks like old sport car do, it's made (partially) of wood, it's lightweight, eye-catching, fast and can distinguish you from the average healthy guy with just another 911, SL, or V8 Ferrari.
they have been capable of creating, or perhaps finding, a segment of the market where to positioning their cars, a market where the name (Morgan is an old and excellent name, but not something people know about), the performance and the specs, or even the latest gizmos don't count. there is only the look, in the more genuine and positive way.
there are a few possibilities that an wealthy man in the market for a new exclusive drive will consider this against a DB9 or even an XK, and that's the point of this car. Usually a lot of drivers wouldn't consider it, but those who do, will only want a car like these, even because there isn't something similar available.
lately Wiesmann evolved to a very good level, but I personally think their focus is the performance of the car rather than its "heritage".
Ironically the both of them are equipped with BMW's engines, but while just right now Morgan adopted the 4.8 liter V8, the German builder uses the M5's V10 since last year and always equipped its cars with an M3 engine, as a reference.
despites the look of the Wiesmann is definitely based on old Jaguars of the past, I would consider the Morgan as a car with a soul more similar to the British company of that days, while I use to the "Bentley Boys" and their hige green B cars while considering Wiesmann and its powerful engines
both British gentlemen, both classy and even from the wealthy part of the population but with a different attitude to cars.
just a personal thought.

Matra et Alpine
12-20-2008, 02:39 PM
At last they've fixed the lights and now it doesn't look cross-eyed.
Still tho' the looks aren't my preference. If I want the look I'd go for a classic :)

aNOBLEman
12-20-2008, 03:21 PM
At last they've fixed the lights and now it doesn't look cross-eyed.
Still tho' the looks aren't my preference. If I want the look I'd go for a classic :)

I noticed the lack of cross eyed-ness too. I think it looks better than before but has perhaps lost some of its quirky loveability. The greater performance from the new engine should make this a better alternative to its more main stream competitors.

coolieman1220
12-20-2008, 05:01 PM
would the turbo v8 from the new 7 an x6 be too advanced for this car?

ErWin76
12-20-2008, 05:06 PM
would the turbo v8 from the new 7 an x6 be too advanced for this car?

I think so, i'm surprised they have auto gearbox.

Ferrer
12-20-2008, 06:11 PM
I like it too, even if the classic Morgan proportions and styling don't translate very well into "moderness". As Damiano said it's a very left-field car and I like that in a car. It looks and feels unique just as it should. A bit like a Birstol, which I like too.

It is different from Weisman in my opinion. The Weismann is a contemporary sportscar that just happens to look a bit like a classic british roadster. This isn't retro at all. They've just been making them like this since the 30's. Also the Weismann has far too much power for a traditional british sportscar.

would the turbo v8 from the new 7 an x6 be too advanced for this car?
With the low weight you don't need so much power. And they probably only upgraded to the 4.8 litre engine because the 4.4 litre went out of production.

I think so, i'm surprised they have auto gearbox.
Surely a costumers demand.

NicFromLA
12-20-2008, 06:55 PM
I really liked the coupe version, but this car really has character and I admire it for that.

Ferrer
12-20-2008, 07:00 PM
Yep, the Aeromax is fabulous.

A shame that it is a limited edition.

wwgkd
12-20-2008, 07:22 PM
I love Morgans, and I do like this one, sepecially since they fixed the headlights. I'm still not a big fan of the rear end, but I'd definitely take one.

LeonOfTheDead
12-21-2008, 02:47 AM
Yep, the Aeromax is fabulous.

A shame that it is a limited edition.

I would definitely hit the Life Car even more.

agree on you opinion about Wiesmann.
and taking about retrostyle, I like Spyker's interior too.

Ferrer
12-21-2008, 05:57 AM
I would definitely hit the Life Car even more.

agree on you opinion about Wiesmann.
and taking about retrostyle, I like Spyker's interior too.
I like Spykers too. They are a bit like cut-price Paganis.

LeonOfTheDead
12-21-2008, 06:37 AM
I like Spykers too. They are a bit like cut-price Paganis.

still 220.000 euro for a base model ;)
they aren't good performers, they aren't comfortable gt either, and they aren't even known by Guido (or Tizio, as I mentioned before :D), but they are so special, detailed, classy.
to be brutally honest, I would buy right now the D12 if I had the money, no matter if it is a pseudo SUV or what else, it's gorgeous, those ribs starting after the wheel arches are magnificent, and the internal aluminum pillars are even better.

IBrake4Rainbows
12-21-2008, 06:47 AM
They've made it look worse to me.

Those headlight bumps are fairly rank.

Bleeding Heart
12-21-2008, 06:57 AM
It looks nice actually...

It's kind of expensive though...

Ferrer
12-21-2008, 08:01 AM
still 220.000 euro for a base model ;)
they aren't good performers, they aren't comfortable gt either, and they aren't even known by Guido (or Tizio, as I mentioned before :D), but they are so special, detailed, classy.
to be brutally honest, I would buy right now the D12 if I had the money, no matter if it is a pseudo SUV or what else, it's gorgeous, those ribs starting after the wheel arches are magnificent, and the internal aluminum pillars are even better.
Ok so it's like a Pagani, only cheaper and without the performance.

I reckon I'm not much bothered wheter they drive well or not, the attention to detail is astonishing. I'd have a base C8 Laviolette if I could. :)

092326001
12-21-2008, 12:25 PM
i like it, i think they fixed the cross eye look a while back, replaced those beetle headlamps with mini units

Dantera22B
12-21-2008, 01:11 PM
i like it, i think they fixed the cross eye look a while back, replaced those beetle headlamps with mini units

The old units were Mini lamps IIRC they've just used the facelifted ones and adjusted the angle on this new version.

Surely though this is old news, the car is sporting last years reg. number. Either that or Morgan can't afford to get a 58 plate registered chassis.

NicFromLA
12-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Ok so it's like a Pagani, only cheaper and without the performance.

I reckon I'm not much bothered wheter they drive well or not, the attention to detail is astonishing. I'd have a base C8 Laviolette if I could. :)

I drove a C8 Spyder. It was glorious! It was sort of like a big Lotus Elise, and SO gorgeous both inside and out. The only thing I didn't like was the way the top stowed when it was down; however it's still better than the way the top is stowed on this Morgan, hence my love of the Aeromax.

dydzi
12-21-2008, 02:18 PM
the problem with aeromax though is it's terrible built quality. that's at least what i felt stepping inside one at IAA 2007.

does this roof stand out like this all the time like at the second picture from the first post?

NicFromLA
12-21-2008, 02:55 PM
the problem with aeromax though is it's terrible built quality. that's at least what i felt stepping inside one at IAA 2007.

does this roof stand out like this all the time like at the second picture from the first post?

Too bad about the Aeromax.

That top bothers me too.

Ferrer
12-21-2008, 03:49 PM
I drove a C8 Spyder. It was glorious! It was sort of like a big Lotus Elise, and SO gorgeous both inside and out. The only thing I didn't like was the way the top stowed when it was down; however it's still better than the way the top is stowed on this Morgan, hence my love of the Aeromax.
That's rather excellent then. :)

Not only the Spyker has fantastic attention detail but it drives well too.

As for the Morgan this is nice, but the proper Roadster is better.

wwgkd
12-22-2008, 12:00 AM
+8+ ftw

katoen
12-29-2008, 04:53 AM
the problem with aeromax though is it's terrible built quality. that's at least what i felt stepping inside one at IAA 2007.
does this roof stand out like this all the time like at the second picture from the first post?

Must agree mostly. The first Aeros might have been cross-eyed but those after changed the rear end to match the looks of a full diaper.

The scary build quality and front end handling is enough to revive donkey travel.
The Aeromax is handsomer but with build quality and steering unimproved.

The classic models are a safer bet.

LeonOfTheDead
12-29-2008, 06:06 AM
Since it's been built in just 100 units I thought the build quality was going to be actually good (craftsmanship attention to details, precision, or something similar)