Mosler MT900 GTR XX Twin Turbo Land Shark Revealed

[Niko_Fx]

I have to see this car tested, if the numbers are all true or at least close to, it would be absolutely crazy.

Mosler MT900 GTR XX Twin Turbo Land Shark Revealed - Worldcarfans (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090508.004/mosler-mt900-gtr-xx-twin-turbo-land-shark-revealed)


While the MT900 GTR normally goes from standstill to 100 km/h in 3.1 seconds, Gocha claims his version gets there in just over 2.5 seconds. His car allegedly hits 150 mph in 6.7 seconds, and 250 mph in 17.5 seconds. The car is capable of a nine second quarter-mile, reaching 178 mph by the time it gets there. Even more astonishing is the sprint to stop time. This car allegedly goes from zero to 150mph and back to a dead stop in 8.7 seconds. That's even faster than the Ultima GTR 0-100-0 time of 9.4 seconds, which seems remarkable.

A full stop from 150mph in just 2 seconds? Again, I gotta see this.

[CdocZ]

I wonder how many heads will explode out of amazement if this turns out to be real. So far....I am skeptical, but prepared to see it prove it's stuff.

[Black Edition]

OMG... I like this car... Sorry for the my expressions but this thing is sex on wheels:eek:

[lightweight]

Come on....

Even if this is true (which we'll have to see to believe), they have to change the name.... Land Shark???

Seems like a bad attempt at publicity like the drag-spec Ultima modification.

Moreover this attempt seems like a fraud by the attempt to "score" Schumacher as their test driver... Come on... Didn't you come up with something better? Maybe an astronaut... Neil Armstrong?

[Ferrer]

I'm sorry, but figures are meaningless.

[Equinox]

The car does look 'interesting.'

Some of the figures 'claimed' I could believe somewhat. But as for 150 MPH to a stop in 2 secs!!! This I have a very hard time believing. I mean, count 2 seconds in your head... Now imagine a car going 150 MPH stopping in that amount of time. I doubt it.

[aiasib]

the article says:

"Gocha says his car utilizes an engine with a 381 cubic inch plant generating an unbelievable 2,500 horsepower, in part thanks to the twin turbos."

wat

[lightweight]

the article says:

"Gocha says his car utilizes an engine with a 381 cubic inch plant generating an unbelievable 2,500 horsepower, in part thanks to the twin turbos."

wat

500 hp per litre? This is definetly not a road car.

[Soloracer]

I knew this was a fast car, but in regards to the claims, I'll wait to see it...

[Rockefella]

This sounds like an 18-year old with a VERY rich father.

[P4g4nite]

500 hp per litre? This is definetly not a road car.
383 is a 6.2L, which means about 400bhp/L. Not outside the realms of what is possible.
Getting insane amounts of power from turbo motors is a well established skill, putting 2500hp into use is the trick.
I'd be more concerned that the lightened version of an already light chassis (which was designed 8 years ago on a budget that VW would usually invest in cupholder tech) is going to flex and crack after a few high speed maneuvers.


Nicknamed "The Land Shark", this car weighs a full 250 kg (551 lbs) less than the already lightened GTR XX, coming in at 861 kg (1898 lbs) with its fuel tanks full. Yes, we said "tanks", as in plural. This car runs on a multi-fuel system using petrol, methanol, hydrogen, and ethanol.Riiiiiiiiiiight....

[clutch-monkey]

wait, 861kg, with 2500hp?

can anyone say "undrivable"
followed shortly after by "pointless"

[MrV12]

doubt thats true.

[Roentgen]

I think he meant 2.5 secs worth of wheel spin.

[jump15vc]

i cant see how this car puts all that power down, i mean it doesnt have ridiculously ginormous tires, no electronic launch control, it doesnt make sense

[Sledgehammer]

Can an F1 stop in two seconds from 150? Doubtful...
Also I read somewhere that the 0-100-0 time of an F1 car is around 8.4-7 seconds. Im calling bull$hit

*edit* booted up the 2007 F1 game and did a few runs for a simulation comparison.
0-150-0 average from 3 runs = 12.1 sec
0-150 average from 3 runs = 9.3 sec
0-60-0 average from 3 runs = 7.6 sec
150-0 average from 3 runs = 2.6 sec

[NSXType-R]

This is even worse than some of the OMG I HAS A CAR THAT CAN GO 400 MPH111!!!!

Pointless indeed.

[W.R.]

Although bullshit claims abound, it's cars like this (and that Maxximus Ultima) that keep the faith in me that some enthusiasts are just as mental and envelope-pushing as they were 100 years ago and more. Good claims if they can be reached.

[lightweight]

Although bullshit claims abound, it's cars like this (and that Maxximus Ultima) that keep the faith in me that some enthusiasts are just as mental and envelope-pushing as they were 100 years ago and more. Good claims if they can be reached.

I really think that they are not pushing the tech envelope. They are just using race technology in a road car.

Race teams in certain series (e.g. F1) are pushing the envelope, since they are adopting new technologies. These guys (same with the Ultima Maxximus guy) are just playing smart with existing race technologies, by applying it for road use.

Will have to see if this is road legal and if so will it last for more than 1/4 mile.:p

EDIT:

Full specs and press release below

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=19883

[W.R.]

Upon a 2nd reading of the article, I actually started to laugh. Seriously, is this guy an idiot or something? He may as well say it'll have a 7,000,000 BHP nuclear black hole for an engine and will hit the speed of light twice in 9.2 seconds. I'm just hoping that nobody is really this misinformed about cars and he's just late for the 1st of April.

[MrV12]

i reread the article,and supposedly it has AWD.That was my main issue,getting all of that power down.Since it's AWD it should have a 1 sec
0-60.Dont make me get that FXX Evoluzione of that Veyron.LOL

[LeonOfTheDead]

orlly?!

they also messed up with the displacement, claiming it was a 381 cu but providing a stroke/bore good for a 382 cu.

BS.

[aiasib]

i like that the car also has:

N-CAR PCTM MOBILE INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.33 GHZ
3.5G MOBILE INTERNET 7.2 MBPS

[lightweight]

Maybe you tune it in Gran Turismo for 2500 hp!!!

[f6fhellcat13]

Schumacher is going to drive it. :rolleyes:
I know it is giving this car waaaay too much credit to assume it will ever work, but doesn't Schumi not like closed-wheel cars because he cant see the understeer?

[lightweight]

No way Schumacher is going to drive a non Ferrari supercar.

This company is a joke

[LeonOfTheDead]

Schumacher is going to drive it. :rolleyes:
I know it is giving this car waaaay too much credit to assume it will ever work, but doesn't Schumi not like closed-wheel cars because he cant see the understeer?

he enjoyed his black FXX more than once.

[CdocZ]

You would figure a group like this would have a website too, given how much money they must have to have poured into this car.....

[Gunman]

Well, having done much of the design work on the MT900, I'll say this, and this is just my opinion....the B.S. runs deep with this one. I see no way Gocha could have done much, if any of the mods he claims. I'd love to see him prove me wrong, but I won't be holding my breath.

[lightweight]

Well, having done much of the design work on the MT900...

We'll need some proof for that please ;)

[F1_Master]

According to the VP of International sales at Mosler, this car is/was at Corvette Mike's under some warranty repair. He said when it came in, all it had done was a new steering wheel & brake kit, nothing more.

[Gunman]

We'll need some proof for that please ;)

Hehe...and how would you like me to prove that?

Here, try this thread: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/technical-forums/38953-how-build-car.html

[Gunman]

According to the VP of International sales at Mosler, this car is/was at Corvette Mike's under some warranty repair. He said when it came in, all it had done was a new steering wheel & brake kit, nothing more.

"VP of International sales"...Todd?

[F1_Master]

My apologies, the VP of Global Operations, Jill.


This vehicle is currently at Corvette Mike's for a warranty repair. The engine is still stock as delivered and no weight reductions appear to have been made other than changing out the steering wheel (that contained an airbag when delivered) and changing to drilled/slotted rotors.


Thank you,
Jill Wagner
GM and VP of Global Operations

[lightweight]

Hehe...and how would you like me to prove that?

Here, try this thread: http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/technical-forums/38953-how-build-car.html

Hmmm, not enough for most people

[Wouter Melissen]

Hmmm, not enough for most people

If I tell you it's true, is that enough?

[Gunman]

My apologies, the VP of Global Operations, Jill.

Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't aware of a VP of sales.

[P4g4nite]

Hehe...and how would you like me to prove that?
I don't reject your claim out of hand, the guy who owns the P3/4 sometimes posts here after all.
I think it would be great if you could tell us about what you did at Mosler, start a thread if you get time.

[car_nut]

Not saying that I believe any of the claims, but some of the people posting are misreading the article, including the original poster.

Nowhere does the article say the car can do 0-150 mph in 2.5 sec.

It says Gocha "claims" it will do 0-100 km/h in 2.5 sec.

That would be roughly 0-62 mph in 2.5 sec.

That is roughly in the realm of possibility.

[clutch-monkey]

even if the engine is standard?

[car_nut]

even if the engine is standard?

No, not going off of what the Mosler rep said.

But is she certain that the car in the article is the exact same car she's referring to?

I'm saying that based on the other "claims" in the article, that a 2.5 sec 0-62 is possible, and that it never said 0-150 mph in 2.5 sec.

[LeonOfTheDead]

Not saying that I believe any of the claims, but some of the people posting are misreading the article, including the original poster.

Nowhere does the article say the car can do 0-150 mph in 2.5 sec.

It says Gocha "claims" it will do 0-100 km/h in 2.5 sec.

That would be roughly 0-62 mph in 2.5 sec.

That is roughly in the realm of possibility.


Nicknamed "The Land Shark", this car weighs a full 250 kg (551 lbs) less than the already lightened GTR XX, coming in at 861 kg (1898 lbs) with its fuel tanks full. Yes, we said "tanks", as in plural. This car runs on a multi-fuel system using petrol, methanol, hydrogen, and ethanol. Gocha claims that the use of multiple fuels means he was able to register his car as a "hybrid" in California, meaning he gets to take this monster into the often wide-open carpool lanes of Los Angeles!

this is worst than saying the car does a 0-150 mph in 1 second.

[Sledgehammer]

I cant listen to outragous claims when the guy telling us is named Gocha. Just to dang close to gotcha.

[kingofthering]

OMG MY UNCLE HAS THIS CAR AND WE DRIVE 250MILZ HR IN SCHOOL ZONES RACING tEH 1000hp SUPRA!!!!

no lie.

[Rockefella]

At first this thread made me /facepalm, but now that I think of it.. this Gocha guy is pretty awesome for his BS on the car community. That hybrid part for the HOV lane had me lolling.

[Gunman]

The owner of that car, really is named Gocha.

[LeonOfTheDead]

The owner of that car, really is named Gocha.

so it's destiny.

Do you know him?

[Gunman]

so it's destiny.

Do you know him?

No, but I've seen the list of owners, and talk to guys that still work at Mosler.

[LeonOfTheDead]

No, but I've seen the list of owners, and talk to guys that still work at Mosler.

oh thanks.
if you dn't mind me asking, how many Moslers have been sold?
Would be nice if we could get a list of sold units per each version, and perhaps a list of the versions themselves...
...and hi-res photos...technical info...whatever you may have!

[Gunman]

I'll start another thread, and you guys can ask questions.

[LeonOfTheDead]

I'll start another thread, and you guys can ask questions.

yap, sounds good.

[F1_Master]

Not saying that I believe any of the claims, but some of the people posting are misreading the article, including the original poster.

Nowhere does the article say the car can do 0-150 mph in 2.5 sec.

It says Gocha "claims" it will do 0-100 km/h in 2.5 sec.

That would be roughly 0-62 mph in 2.5 sec.

That is roughly in the realm of possibility.
That seems possible. This does not.


This car allegedly goes from zero to 150mph and back to a dead stop in 8.7 seconds.
As others have said, I don't think even F1 cars can take 2 seconds to stop from 150mph.

[Sledgehammer]

Stupid bump, but the car was meant to run at the salt flat in 2009. Any news whether the car actually runs, or made to any sort of testing?

[Gunman]

The car is probably still running, in its oem configuration.

[wardy277]

wow, nice