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rezmoto
05-12-2009, 08:39 PM
We here at Rezmoto are always talking about cars.. So we got to talking about, "What is our Top 5 Favorite Ferraris of all time..." and thought we ask the world..(and made a little bet on the side to see who would win).... :rolleyes:


the rules...

Must post a picture

and if you can... Why you choose those cars...

LETS HAVE FUN!!! :)

Sledgehammer
05-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Guess I will be first...No particular order


1. Ferrari 250 GT Tour De France
2. Ferrari 121 LM
3. Ferrari F40
4. Ferrari 330 LMB
5. Ferrari P3-4

Roentgen
05-12-2009, 09:47 PM
I thought we've had this thread before...

Rockefella
05-12-2009, 11:46 PM
Ferrari 250 GTO
Ferrari P3/4
Ferrari 288 GTO
Ferrari F40
Ferrari Enzo (understood, styling may not be the greatest but tech wise)

f6fhellcat13
05-13-2009, 12:00 AM
I am a big fan of the 400A.

clutch-monkey
05-13-2009, 02:35 AM
355 challenge

F40

288 GTO

246 GT dino

360 CS

akrmalas
05-13-2009, 03:00 AM
F40
288 GTO
Daytona
250GTO
Testarossa

W.R.
05-13-2009, 03:27 AM
Only 5? This is going to be rather difficult.

121 LM
312/67 F1
330 P3
308 Carma FF
288 GTO Evoluzione

Can we choose 10 next time? or more.....

LeonOfTheDead
05-13-2009, 03:27 AM
288 GTO, 250 GT Lusso, 512 S Speciale, 330 P4 (not p3-4), 612 Kappa

Black Edition
05-13-2009, 03:54 AM
Ferrari F40 (LM) = Either the standard version or the LM version of the F40, This is my favorite ferrari because it's the best looking in my opinion. Best of all, it has NO TRACTION CONTROL and PADDLE SHIFTERS. :eek:

Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione = same reason with the F40. ;)

Ferrari 430 Scuderia = My favorite of the modern Ferraris, reminds me of the F40. Has no radio, carpets, etc. and because of that, it is very lightweight. :)

Ferrari FXX Evoluzione = As far as I know has the most powerful V-12 engine ferrari ever developed. One of my favorites just for that reason alone. :p

Ferrari F2004 = The F1 car that took Michael Schumacher to his 7th F1 World Championship, not to mention in a dominating fashion. :D

LeonOfTheDead
05-13-2009, 04:28 AM
Ferrari F40 (LM) = Either the standard version or the LM version of the F40, This is my favorite ferrari because it's the best looking in my opinion. Best of all, it has NO TRACTION CONTROL and PADDLE SHIFTERS. :eek:

Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione = same reason with the F40. ;)

Ferrari 430 Scuderia = My favorite of the modern Ferraris, reminds me of the F40. Has no radio, carpets, etc. and because of that, it is very lightweight. :)

A 360 Challenge Stradale is 70 kg lighter though.

And a 288 GTO Evoluzione is basically an F40 mule, but that's fine.

Ferrer
05-13-2009, 04:52 AM
I am a big fan of the 400A.
I like the Stratos... and speaking of which, I've just remembered, didn't we do just that no that long ago?

switters78
05-13-2009, 05:59 AM
250 GTO
The ultimate classic car shape in my opinion, and also a very successful racer. My #1 favorite car, period. Oh, to own one...

Daytona
Fast, powerful and exclusive, even today. Also a very interesting shape.

Testarossa
Beastly...nothing compared to this one in terms of raw appeal at the time.

288 GTO
I got a picture of this one for my twelfth birthday...it's still hanging on my wall at 30...

156 F1
This car epitomizes vintage F1 cars for me. Plus, Phil Hill won his only F1 driver's championship in this car.

f6fhellcat13
05-13-2009, 09:09 AM
I like the Stratos... and speaking of which, I've just remembered, didn't we do just that no that long ago?
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/car-comparison/38148-top-five-non-12-cylinder-ferraris.html
Yes, but minus the V12s.

Ferrer
05-13-2009, 09:35 AM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/car-comparison/38148-top-five-non-12-cylinder-ferraris.html
Yes, but minus the V12s.
Ah yes, now we get to choose the real Ferraris. I might as well get started then.

-250 GT California Spider, SWB Covered headlamps. The perfect Ferrari for me. Race derived, glorious Colombo V12, 6 twin choke Webers. Oh, and it looks gorgeus.

-250 GT Berlinetta Lusso. As above, but more relaxed. More of a GT car than an out and out racer but nevertheless very appealing.

-365 GTB/4 Daytona. The last of a line. For a long time this was the ultimate front engined V12 berlinetta from Ferrari. Equally at home at the track than in the Riviera. Just like a Ferrari should.

-125 S. It's genesis. And for that alone it deserves a place in the list.

-Dino 246 GT. A Ferrari in all but name. It may have been meant to rival the Porsche 911, but I don't think they are even in the same league.

f6fhellcat13
05-13-2009, 10:18 AM
In no particular order:
330 P4 - The greatest ever collection of curves, and it went like stink.

250 GT SWB - Another timeless design. Perfect proportions and one of the sexiest simplest rear ends on a car, ever.

246 Dino with UK-spec covered headlights - A great sportscar with great looks and a very fine V6.

250 GTO - It really has to be here, doesn't it? No Ferrari list would be complete without it.

512 S/M- Though not as successful as many of Ferrari's other cars at Le Mans, it was a huge V12 wrapped in a sexy body. It was also one of the last (I believe) of Ferrari's prototype endurance racers.

Honorable mention:
Pre-wing 312 F1 - Not the quickest car in the paddock, but a great shape with some meaty tires and the beautiful "spaghetti" white exhausts.

Sorry for overusing the words "sexy", "beautiful", and "good looking" so much.:o

Wouter Melissen
05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
That's certainly not a 250 GTO in your picture. After the 512 M, Ferrari built this: 1971 - 1973 Ferrari 312 PB - Images, Specifications and Information (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/154/Ferrari-312-PB.html) And later of course the 333 SP, which Ferrari had built by Michelloto and Dallara.

MrV12
05-13-2009, 10:58 AM
Ferrari F40 (LM) = Either the standard version or the LM version of the F40, This is my favorite ferrari because it's the best looking in my opinion. Best of all, it has NO TRACTION CONTROL and PADDLE SHIFTERS. :eek:

Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione = same reason with the F40. ;)

Ferrari 430 Scuderia = My favorite of the modern Ferraris, reminds me of the F40. Has no radio, carpets, etc. and because of that, it is very lightweight. :)

Ferrari FXX Evoluzione = As far as I know has the most powerful V-12 engine ferrari ever developed. One of my favorites just for that reason alone. :p

Ferrari F2004 = The F1 car that took Michael Schumacher to his 7th F1 World Championship, not to mention in a dominating fashion. :D
copycat!!!

MrV12
05-13-2009, 11:00 AM
Ferrari FXX Evoluzione = As far as I know has the most powerful V-12 engine ferrari ever developed. One of my favorites just for that reason alone. :p

Actually i remember seeing on Fchat that the F50 gt is WELL over 1000hp,be back with a specific number.

ldaragos
05-13-2009, 11:29 AM
1. 250 SWB greatest Ferrari ever
2. 250 SWB california Nicest soft top
3. F40LM Just fantastic
4. P3/4
5. P5

henk4
05-13-2009, 11:45 AM
166 Touring Barchetta
330 GTC
288 GTO
330 P4
250 TR

NicFromLA
05-13-2009, 05:42 PM
1. 250GT California LWB. Roadster, racecar and in my opinion better looking than the SWB.

2. 250GT Cabriolet (Series 1). A fabulous GT car and perhaps the most beautiful Ferrari ever.

3. 250GT SWB Berlinetta. A GT car, a sports car, a race car and perhaps the most beautiful closed Ferrari of all time. Everything a Ferrari should be.

4. 250 TR59. I think perhaps the best looking racecar of all time and from what I've heard a great car to drive.

5. 860 Monza. My favorite non V12 Ferrari of all time and an incredible mixture of elegance and bad-ass.

Macross Rs
05-14-2009, 05:10 AM
1.F355 A turning point in Ferrari's production car history

2. F550 One of best GT cars

3. F40 Light weight is good!!

4. F250 GT One of best racers

5. F50 Actually, F50 is better than F40....

ruim20
05-14-2009, 06:22 AM
Hasen't this been done before?

Ah well.

F355 GTB

F456M

F40

F550

Ferrari Dino

The first Ferraris i'd buy if i could :p

rezmoto
05-14-2009, 07:37 AM
Here are my favorite ferraris.

Danny tops 5:

F40 lm


F50

http://www.ssip.net/upload/ferrari-f50-side-3_65.jpg

288 GTO

http://www.adrianblog.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_288_gto_side.jpg

599xx



355 Berlinetta

http://www.rezmoto.com/march2009/gallery/Ferrari355/images/Ferrari355_BMWM6_038.jpg

i love talking about ferraris :D

Kitdy
05-14-2009, 02:11 PM
I find these lists a little silly as I find it hard to coalesce the top 5 in my mind - I have some favourites but making a definitive top 5 is hard. Also why would I want to share them without explanation? It seems histrionic to me.

To those that listed why they chose them, thanks for making your lists interesting - that's the reason I read these threads mostly.

NicFromLA
05-14-2009, 02:25 PM
5. F50 Actually, F50 is better than F40....

Certainly not in the looks department.

Tati25
05-15-2009, 04:34 AM
1. Testarossa
2. Maranello
3. 599 Fiorano
4. F40
5. All the rest, it's impossible to choose, they are all great

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 04:44 AM
Certainly not in the looks department.

I think they are too different to be compared look wise, and I personally like them both even if from two different point of view.
I used to dislike the F50, in the same way I didn't like the MC12, then I met them, and i changed my mind.

Black Edition
05-15-2009, 05:00 AM
Actually i remember seeing on Fchat that the F50 gt is WELL over 1000hp,be back with a specific number.

as far as I know though, the f50 gt have 750 hp.

i remember seeing somewhere in the internet about a twin-turbo f50 with 1000 hp, more or less.

so, the fxx evoluzione has 850 hp compared to the f50 gt's 750 hp.

though, i could be wrong there. :o

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 05:14 AM
Don't realy on Ferrari's figures of racing cars. Apart from being affected by air restrictors and other stuff you could assume they are always lying, and you would be almost always right.

As if the MC12 really had 630 bhp, on the other side, as if a Maserati could be more powerful than the latest and more powerful Ferrari.

car_nut
05-15-2009, 06:00 AM
1.) 125 S: Started it all. Without this, there would be no list.

2.) Testarossa: This is the car that introduced me to the world of exotics/supercars.

3.) 330 P4: I can't think of a better example of sexy curves, and the reason we refer to our cars as women.

4.) F430 Scuderia: Simply a bad a$$

5.) 599 gtb: Ferrari's most powerful series production car, and pure sexy.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 06:36 AM
1.) 125 S: Started it all. Without this, there would be no list.

2.) Testarossa: This is the car that introduced me to the world of exotics/supercars.

3.) 330 P4: I can't think of a better example of sexy curves, and the reason we refer to our cars as women.

4.) F430 Scuderia: Simply a bad a$$

5.) 599 gtb: Ferrari's most powerful series production car, and pure sexy.

the car that started it all is the Auto Avio Costruzioni 815.
The car in the second pic is a 512 TR, not a Testarossa, while pic 3 is of the P3/4, not a P4 (;)).

car_nut
05-15-2009, 06:47 AM
the car that started it all is the Auto Avio Costruzioni 815.
The car in the second pic is a 512 TR, not a Testarossa, while pic 3 is of the P3/4, not a P4 (;)).

The AutoAvio Costruzioni 815 was not technically a Ferrari, although created by Enzo Ferrari. Contractual issues with Alfa Romeo prevented it from being labeled a Ferrari.

The first official Ferrari was the 125 S.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 06:55 AM
The AutoAvio Costruzioni 815 was not technically a Ferrari, although created by Enzo Ferrari. Contractual issues with Alfa Romeo prevented it from being labeled a Ferrari.

The first official Ferrari was the 125 S.

On the contrary technically it was a Ferrari right because it was designed and built by Ferrari (and others). Just because it doesn't wear the Ferrari emblem it doesn't involve anything technical. A Dino 206 GT is still a Ferrari (to me), besides having it's own brand. The 815 on the other hand was handcrafted in 2 units without a real brand, just the name of the "company" created so to register it.
Regardless of this, I think the 815 is the car that started something rather than the 125S.

car_nut
05-15-2009, 06:58 AM
On the contrary technically it was a Ferrari right because it was designed and built by Ferrari (and others). Just because it doesn't wear the Ferrari emblem it doesn't involve anything technical. A Dino 206 GT is still a Ferrari (to me), besides having it's own brand. The 815 on the other hand was handcrafted in 2 units without a real brand, just the name of the "company" created so to register it.
Regardless of this, I think the 815 is the car that started something rather than the 125S.

I certainly respect the amount of knowledge you have about Ferrari, but we will have to agree-to-disagree.

weyam
05-15-2009, 07:24 AM
1984 - 1986 [V8 - Two Turbos]

1989 - 1994 Ferrari F40 LM [V8 - Two Turbos]

1996 Ferrari F50 GT [V12]

2005 Ferrari 575 GTC Evoluzione [V12]

2006 Ferrari F430 Challenge [V8]

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 10:11 AM
I used to dislike the F50, in the same way I didn't like the MC12, then I met them, and i changed my mind.
All MC12s should be burned to destruction.

the car that started it all is the Auto Avio Costruzioni 815.


The AutoAvio Costruzioni 815 was not technically a Ferrari, although created by Enzo Ferrari. Contractual issues with Alfa Romeo prevented it from being labeled a Ferrari.

The first official Ferrari was the 125 S.


On the contrary technically it was a Ferrari right because it was designed and built by Ferrari (and others). Just because it doesn't wear the Ferrari emblem it doesn't involve anything technical. A Dino 206 GT is still a Ferrari (to me), besides having it's own brand. The 815 on the other hand was handcrafted in 2 units without a real brand, just the name of the "company" created so to register it.
Regardless of this, I think the 815 is the car that started something rather than the 125S.


I certainly respect the amount of knowledge you have about Ferrari, but we will have to agree-to-disagree.
Chaps you're all wrong. The first Ferrari is an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 10:19 AM
All MC12s should be burned to destruction.

Chaps you're all wrong. The first Ferrari is an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300.

You are wrong, the MC12 is worth much mroe attention than what it received.
it's like the little brother of the cool guy, even if actually it's even better (considering the Enzo).
Also, the MC12 project was highly influenced by one factor: dominating GT championships. I think it's a success.

The Alfa/Ferrari issue: that's a bit too much, even if I see what you meant.
I wouldn't consider the Beetle as the first Porsche.

henk4
05-15-2009, 10:23 AM
You are wrong, the MC12 is worth much mroe attention than what it received.
it's like the little brother of the cool guy, even if actually it's even better (considering the Enzo).
Also, the MC12 project was highly influenced by one factor: dominating GT championships. I think it's a success.

The Alfa/Ferrari issue: that's a bit too much, even if I see what you meant.
I wouldn't consider the Beetle as the first Porsche.

Albert's argument is like saying that the first Brawn was the Ferrari F310....

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 10:26 AM
Albert's argument is like saying that the first Brawn was the Ferrari F310....

exactly what I meant (even if Brawn himself never designed a car).
So there already has been an electric Porsche, unveiled at Paris auto show in 1904 or so. Four in-wheel electric motors.
Cayenne Diesel who?!

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 10:28 AM
You are wrong, the MC12 is worth much mroe attention than what it received.
it's like the little brother of the cool guy, even if actually it's even better (considering the Enzo).
Also, the MC12 project was highly influenced by one factor: dominating GT championships. I think it's a success.
Don't care about any of these.

I don't want a Maserati that's too big, too ugly, too uncomfortable, too fast. The MC12 is so unMaserti-ish. Probably something to do with it being a Ferrari.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 10:52 AM
Don't care about any of these.

I don't want a Maserati that's too big, too ugly, too uncomfortable, too fast. The MC12 is so unMaserti-ish. Probably something to do with it being a Ferrari.

it came out it isn't much of a Ferrari. Yes, chassis and engine were taken from the Enzo but also highly redesigned.
The FXX is more similar to the MC12 than the same MC12 to the Enzo, especially engine wise.

On the other hand, I like it (it's personal, obviously) and while it's obviously quite a big car, it isn't out of proportions considering which kind of a car it is.
The designed was influenced by a certain kind of racing, and that's the result.
I don't even think it was out of place for Maserati, even if costing more than 6 times a well equipped Quattroporte and being in a segment Maserati has been absent for ages.
A GT winning Maserati makes a lot of sense to me. Then we may argue if this is the best kind of GT racing we could want, or perhaps something more related to GT3 and 4.

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 11:09 AM
it came out it isn't much of a Ferrari. Yes, chassis and engine were taken from the Enzo but also highly redesigned.
The FXX is more similar to the MC12 than the same MC12 to the Enzo, especially engine wise.

On the other hand, I like it (it's personal, obviously) and while it's obviously quite a big car, it isn't out of proportions considering which kind of a car it is.
The designed was influenced by a certain kind of racing, and that's the result.
I don't even think it was out of place for Maserati, even if costing more than 6 times a well equipped Quattroporte and being in a segment Maserati has been absent for ages.
A GT winning Maserati makes a lot of sense to me. Then we may argue if this is the best kind of GT racing we could want, or perhaps something more related to GT3 and 4.
I agree with the racing Maserati part, after all Maserati have an illustrious racing history and they started as race car manufacturers in the 1920's.

But despite that I can't see the point of a road going full on Maserati supercar, it just doesn't strike me as right. I would've preferred preparing the Gransport properly from some GT2 racing, or making a proper prototype endurance racer.

In my opinion Maserati road cars should be classy grand tourers and 2 seater berlinettas which deliver comfort, speed and driving pleasure at the same time. Sort of like Lancia's should but at a higher price point and with more horsepowers.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 12:12 PM
I agree with the racing Maserati part, after all Maserati have an illustrious racing history and they started as race car manufacturers in the 1920's.

But despite that I can't see the point of a road going full on Maserati supercar, it just doesn't strike me as right. I would've preferred preparing the Gransport properly from some GT2 racing, or making a proper prototype endurance racer.

In my opinion Maserati road cars should be classy grand tourers and 2 seater berlinettas which deliver comfort, speed and driving pleasure at the same time. Sort of like Lancia's should but at a higher price point and with more horsepowers.

Then we agree, but the Gransport/4200 GT wasn't very competitive as a GT3, and as GT2, even supposing there were the requried money, there was already the 360/F430. That's probably the reason why the GranTurismo atm is limited at GT4 despite potential to compete in GT3, and maybe even GT2 (weight reduction is possible up to 1.100 kg, and in the GT4 the engine is completely stock developing 450/470 hp only removing auxiliaries, but the funds dedicated to te program are limited too).
On the other hand, in order to re-establish Maserati's racing heritage GT1 was probably the only possibility with its larger popularity than GT2, and the MC12 was the simplest and best solution: a prototype dressed in GT style with the road going version just for homologation purpose. Preparing a sort of DBR9 or C5R/C6R would have been even more expensive, given a proper car to start with, and it wouldn't have given the same results, being much more similar to the contenders than the MC12.

Put it this way: the MC12 brought popularity and sales, which brought money, which brought more Quattroporte variants and the GranTurismo.
Without the MC12 and all the hype surrounding it, probably Maserati wouldn't be so fine as it reportedly is.

I said reportedly since profits and sales figures available aren't completely correct and clear.
Sales figures were enlarged by dealers "forced" to purchase cars so to make Maserati appear as a healthy brand and allow a better separation from Ferrari and other internal economical issues. Therefore profits are there justt o show something is going in the right direction, but it doesn't mean it has already been completely fixed.
Let's say Maserati is on the right path, but since it isn't arrived yet, investors' trust can't be lost.

For the record, those cars puchased without an customer's order are laying around in parking lots now, as with the economical downturn the kind of (stupid) rich buyer who walks into a dealer to purchase the latest toy and buys whatever they have available instantly has lost its economical power (being so spoiled, douchebag and childish, you wouldn't expect a decent saving plan in his notebook), while very rich and classy persons who still hase bazillions of money aren't in the market for something which isnt perfectly tailored upon their tastes.

That's probably the same reason why Bentley's sales (heavily relying on douchbagginess) are so poor now. my 2 cents.

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 01:22 PM
I don't think the MC12 was that successful at being a halo car either. Production was very limited and it wasn't one of those desirable cars à la 8C if you ask me. Even it's main aim, to win races and championships, was only moderately successful. If I'm not mistaken it only won some races and the FIA GT Championship, which nobody knows about or follows for that matter. The car was refused at Le Mans, arguably the only really important endurance race in terms of marketing, and it could only run at the ALMS series after having undergone a lot of modifications and IIRC the works team never even bothered to take part on a full season.

I personally think that Maserati's turn around from the dark Biturbo days has been based mainly on two fronts, product and the Ferrari association. On the first, well current Maseratis are a far cry from Maseratis of old. They are of much higher quality, and with better performance. De Tomaso did a lot of harm in the 80's and 90's by downgrading tha badge to mere badly built, average performing sports saloons and coupes. It's been amazing, and frankly I can't remember of any other example, that somewhat Maserati has managed to recover from the downmarket process it was undergoing and somehow go upmarket again, to where it belong. And of course this wouldn't have been possible without Ferrari's help (which is a bit ironic when you consider they were two of the biggest rivals), not only technically but as you on the logistic and dealers aspects.

All in all I'd say the MC12 is small, if it helped at all, part of Maserati's amazing recovery. As you say it's not over yet, but Maserati is becoming something very desirable and with some amazing automobiles.

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 01:51 PM
I don't think the MC12 was that successful at being a halo car either. Production was very limited and it wasn't one of those desirable cars à la 8C if you ask me. Even it's main aim, to win races and championships, was only moderately successful. If I'm not mistaken it only won some races and the FIA GT Championship, which nobody knows about or follows for that matter. The car was refused at Le Mans, arguably the only really important endurance race in terms of marketing, and it could only run at the ALMS series after having undergone a lot of modifications and IIRC the works team never even bothered to take part on a full season.

I personally think that Maserati's turn around from the dark Biturbo days has been based mainly on two fronts, product and the Ferrari association. On the first, well current Maseratis are a far cry from Maseratis of old. They are of much higher quality, and with better performance. De Tomaso did a lot of harm in the 80's and 90's by downgrading tha badge to mere badly built, average performing sports saloons and coupes. It's been amazing, and frankly I can't remember of any other example, that somewhat Maserati has managed to recover from the downmarket process it was undergoing and somehow go upmarket again, to where it belong. And of course this wouldn't have been possible without Ferrari's help (which is a bit ironic when you consider they were two of the biggest rivals), not only technically but as you on the logistic and dealers aspects.

All in all I'd say the MC12 is small, if it helped at all, part of Maserati's amazing recovery. As you say it's not over yet, but Maserati is becoming something very desirable and with some amazing automobiles.

Surely the MC12 isn't an halo car.
But mostly in Europe its wins in the GT championship means quite some covering, ads, and eventually sales.
At Maserati the car has a high value, it really drawn a line between the old and the new. Basically it's an halo car for the company itself, the workers, the dealers rather than for us (you;)).


I'm not sure if they really meant to race it at LeMans since one problem is quite obvious since the beginning: it's too wide. On the other hand even in GT1 it had to face various restriction every year since it was a bit "too much" for the rest of the competitors. Still Maserati won all the team and constructors championships from 2005 onward and all the drivers titles from 2006 onwards.

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 02:52 PM
Hadn't seen that:

That's probably the same reason why Bentley's sales (heavily relying on douchbagginess) are so poor now. my 2 cents.
I think the problem are their owners...

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 03:17 PM
Hadn't seen that:

I think the problem are their owners...

that was the point.
it's the kind of person who lives beyond his possibilities, therefore the first to feel the economic climate.

Ferrer
05-15-2009, 03:31 PM
that was the point.
it's the kind of person who lives beyond his possibilities, therefore the first to feel the economic climate.
No, I actually meant Volkswagen... :p

LeonOfTheDead
05-15-2009, 03:32 PM
No, I actually meant Volkswagen... :p

I could still stand with my argument:D

see also silly Porsche takeover and 9 Billions € of debt

DesmoRob
05-16-2009, 12:31 AM
I'm sure they've been said a million times already, but here goes.

F40 - Everyone loves this Ferrari, plus it was born the same year as me :)
F50 - I haven't seen many more beautiful super exclusive cars than this one
360 Challenge - its the one I'd have in my garage if I could realistically have a Ferrari
288 GTO - its just plain badass
550 Maranello - thanks to the original need for speed hot pursuit, this car has a special place in my heart.

switters78
05-16-2009, 06:36 AM
The car in the second pic is a 512 TR, not a Testarossa, (;)).

I think that is a Testarossa. The 512TR had a differently shaped grill and a prancing horse on the grill like the photo below. Plus the trim underneath is body-colored on the 512TR, and is black on the Testarossa like in Car_Nut's photo

rezmoto
05-18-2009, 07:21 PM
wow..u guys had some great picks.. thanks for sharing! and keep them coming...

LeonOfTheDead
05-19-2009, 01:48 AM
I think that is a Testarossa. The 512TR had a differently shaped grill and a prancing horse on the grill like the photo below. Plus the trim underneath is body-colored on the 512TR, and is black on the Testarossa like in Car_Nut's photo

the first you posted is surely a 512 TR, while the second, the same as he posted, is clearly a slightly modified Testarossa.

http://www.ferrariautosport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1990-ferrari-testarossa-rosso-corsa-b-640.jpg

KC Blacky
05-19-2009, 12:08 PM
Ferrari Challenge TV Show will debut this Saturday 5/23 at 1am edt on SpeedTV. 15 show series will air on SpeedTV slotted around various Formula 1 telecasts on Speed.

switters78
05-19-2009, 05:56 PM
the first you posted is surely a 512 TR, while the second, the same as he posted, is clearly a slightly modified Testarossa.

http://www.ferrariautosport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1990-ferrari-testarossa-rosso-corsa-b-640.jpg

yes :)

and just for kicks...the 512 M

I think I easily could've made a top 10 instead of a top 5...

BLK MAGIC
05-20-2009, 05:44 PM
I think its somewhat subjective the answer to this question.. You need to define a timeframe in which to pick your favorite, then go from there. I mean I love some of the older Ferrari's much more than I do the new ones, but at the same time, I would buy a new one before I bought an old one.. so its a tough call

switters78
05-26-2009, 09:35 AM
I think its somewhat subjective the answer to this question.. You need to define a timeframe in which to pick your favorite, then go from there. I mean I love some of the older Ferrari's much more than I do the new ones, but at the same time, I would buy a new one before I bought an old one.. so its a tough call

I think if price were no object, a 250 GTO would be my first choice of any car out there, and there's nothing like driving a classic car, especially a Ferrari. The classics give you something that can't be replicated with any modern cars. The designs are beautiful, the smells are wonderful, the sounds of a carbureted 12-cylinder engine are to die for, and the performance is impressive even by today's standards. But, the new ones are amazing and the driving experience is exhilarating in a completely different way. From a price perspective, some of the newer ones are a bit more affordable too. I've been seeing 328s, 308s and Mondials in the $20k-$30k range lately, as well as F355s as low as $40k-$50k and some of the 360s are dropping below $100k too. Even a $300k 599 GTB is more affordable than the millions you'll pay for some of the classics.

Ferrer
05-26-2009, 12:54 PM
I think if price were no object, a 250 GTO would be my first choice of any car out there, and there's nothing like driving a classic car, especially a Ferrari. The classics give you something that can't be replicated with any modern cars. The designs are beautiful, the smells are wonderful, the sounds of a carbureted 12-cylinder engine are to die for, and the performance is impressive even by today's standards. But, the new ones are amazing and the driving experience is exhilarating in a completely different way. From a price perspective, some of the newer ones are a bit more affordable too. I've been seeing 328s, 308s and Mondials in the $20k-$30k range lately, as well as F355s as low as $40k-$50k and some of the 360s are dropping below $100k too. Even a $300k 599 GTB is more affordable than the millions you'll pay for some of the classics.
And yet you can have a 250 GTE or a 330 GT 2+2 for around 60.000€.

Revo
05-26-2009, 01:05 PM
And yet you can have a 250 GTE or a 330 GT 2+2 for around 60.000€.
More like 100.000€ - 150.000€ ;)

Ferrer
05-26-2009, 01:07 PM
More like 100.000€ - 150.000€ ;)
I've seen the twin headlamped Tjarda 330 GT 2+2 not that long for 60 grand here in Barcelona.

Revo
05-26-2009, 01:09 PM
I've seen the twin headlamped Tjarda 330 GT 2+2 not that long for 60 grand here in Barcelona.
In a dire need of restoration?

Ferrer
05-26-2009, 01:10 PM
In a dire need of restoration?
Nope. In good condition.

Revo
05-26-2009, 01:18 PM
Nope. In good condition.
There has to be a catch then. General price range for 330 GT 2+2 is from 100k up to 135k.

LeonOfTheDead
05-26-2009, 01:48 PM
Nope. In good condition.

sure there actually was an engine or other mechanical parts inside?

Ferrer
05-26-2009, 01:52 PM
There has to be a catch then. General price range for 330 GT 2+2 is from 100k up to 135k.


sure there actually was an engine or other mechanical parts inside?
Well I only saw pictures of it, but it looked good. Of course I don't know how far it would've actually gone...

thedei0niz3r
10-08-2009, 01:44 AM
It is funny how slight changes can make a car look so much better. Those slight changes on the Ferrari 355 F1 GTS really make it stand out.

Then there is the 599, which is great with its awesome with its long front with a v12 in it, but what is a 100x more awesome is the Mansory Ferrari 559 GTB, that this is like :eek:!

I forget what film I saw it in and then I saw a black one pull out of the little market down the street from my house and I am forever in love with it. It is just so freakin sexy how the wing curves into the body. Just by looks I would have to say this is the one if I could only choose one.

Then there is the 550 barchetta, I already loved it from pictures, but seeing it at a car show just set it in my mind as just pure awesomeness.

And then last, but certainly not least is the Testorossa, I love the 80s look on the ferrari, I was born in the 80s and there were some really bad trends, but the Testorossa was not one of them. And then come on, Magnum and the beginning title screen was like wow damn i would love to do that!

I do have to say an honorable mention would be the P4/5, that thing is awesome, to bad its a one off build. Though I think I would buy the first 5 and not replace any of them with this one.

For me though those 6 would be the ones I would buy from all the Ferrari's up to the current models. I'm not that hip on most the others, so until I see something else that I go wow awesome from them these would be the only ones I would buy.

Lincoln79
04-10-2010, 04:57 PM
1) 250 GTO - The pinacle of Enzo Ferrari's career. Probably the greatest sports car of all time.

2) 288 GTO - Completely different than it's namesake, this car probably shouldn't have carried the GTO badge for a variety of reasons, but that still doesn't keep it from being one of the most beautiful, sensual automobiles of all time.

3) 250 GT California - It can be an SWB or LWB, it doesn't matter to me. These cars have everything you could ask for in an automobile: beautiful styling, a convertible top, 12 cylinders, and engine music that will bring you to your knees.

4) 250 Testa Rossa - Beautiful Italian styling, light weight, great handling, acceleration, and the sound of those 6 Weber carbs feeding the glorious Columbo V-12.

5) 365 Daytona Sypder - All those Friday nights in my youth when I watched Miami Vice as they raced around town at night in that beautiful black Daytona really romanticized this car for me. Little did I know at the time that it was just a rebodied Corvette. :eek: Even so, I've still always wanted a copy of the real thing - a black Daytona Spyder with tan leather and gleaming chrome Boranni wire wheels.

LeonOfTheDead
04-10-2010, 05:48 PM
The reason why the 288 GTO has the GTO moniker was for the same reason why the 250 had it, because it was a car built only to homologate a racing car, which eventually never materialized due to changes in the rules, aka Group B was dead.

If there is a car which should have had a different name is the new 599 GTO, really no point for that.

Kitdy
04-11-2010, 02:06 AM
F50 - I haven't seen many more beautiful super exclusive cars than this one

Even though you are very limiting in this statement, and this is a somewhat old post, it seriously calls into question your aesthetic judgment.

Couple this with your praise for the new California and I think we can invalidate your opinion.

LeonOfTheDead
04-11-2010, 04:36 AM
I actually think the F50 is gorgeous in the flesh, better than the toher recent supercars from Ferrari, 288 GTO, F40 and Enzo, no doubt.

So Rob, you're not alone, we can check in in the same mental hospital, would be a blast :D

DesmoRob
04-11-2010, 09:53 AM
Even though you are very limiting in this statement, and this is a somewhat old post, it seriously calls into question your aesthetic judgment.

Couple this with your praise for the new California and I think we can invalidate your opinion.

haha:D, don't mistake my praise for the california as me wanting one. I'm merely debating on the car's side, not interested in it personally. I'm still gonna buy a 360 modena :). The F50 is one hell of a car. The curves and rounded lights on the 360 remind me a little bit of the F50. That's probably why I love it. Invalidate my opinion if you want, I'm not changing it to please anyone. ;)


I actually think the F50 is gorgeous in the flesh, better than the toher recent supercars from Ferrari, 288 GTO, F40 and Enzo, no doubt.

So Rob, you're not alone, we can check in in the same mental hospital, would be a blast :D

I'm down for a good mental hospital stint. Sounds like a plan :D. I'll never admit that we have bad taste though, because I still don't think its true lol.

Lincoln79
04-11-2010, 11:39 AM
The reason why the 288 GTO has the GTO moniker was for the same reason why the 250 had it, because it was a car built only to homologate a racing car, which eventually never materialized due to changes in the rules, aka Group B was dead.

If there is a car which should have had a different name is the new 599 GTO, really no point for that.

You're right about the 288 Leon. Even though it was homologated for Group B racing, I still think some things should remain "sacred". In my humble opinion, the 250 GTO is an icon that should be allowed to stand on it's own.

This is not to knock the 288. It's my second favorite Ferrari ever, and it was such a cool car in it's own right that it would have also been nice if it had been given it's own model designation.

As for the 599 "GTO", I refuse to acknowledge it with that name. Ferrari needs to quit living on the legend of their past models and start creating some new legends. This 599 shows just how desperate Ferrari have become, and it doesn't need to be that way. They still make some remarkable automobiles.

LeonOfTheDead
04-11-2010, 01:09 PM
As for the 599 "GTO", I refuse to acknowledge it with that name. Ferrari needs to quit living on the legend of their past models and start creating some new legends. This 599 shows just how desperate Ferrari have become, and it doesn't need to be that way. They still make some remarkable automobiles.

Couldn't agree more. 599 Scuderia would have been such a better choice, even more now that there isn't a racing variant of their front engined V12 sportscar like with the 575M.

Kitdy
04-11-2010, 01:13 PM
I'm down for a good mental hospital stint. Sounds like a plan :D. I'll never admit that we have bad taste though, because I still don't think its true lol.

The more you cry "I'm not crazy!" the longer they keep you locked up.

DesmoRob
04-11-2010, 01:30 PM
The more you cry "I'm not crazy!" the longer they keep you locked up.

I'll get myself out. Even if it means smothering Jack Nicholson and throwing a sink through the window.

Kitdy
04-11-2010, 01:39 PM
I'll get myself out. Even if it means smothering Jack Nicholson and throwing a sink through the window.

I never saw One Flew Over the Cuckoo's' Nest. I hear good things though.

DesmoRob
04-11-2010, 01:41 PM
I never saw One Flew Over the Cuckoo's' Nest. I hear good things though.

Its definitely worth a look, just like the F50 :D.

Matra et Alpine
04-11-2010, 04:00 PM
^^^ Yeah but if you want to keep it you have to have a frontal lobotomy.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me :) :) ( oldie and goodie :) )