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WyleECoyote
08-17-2009, 07:22 PM
Saw this over at AutoBlog....and If you like Ferrari's....you may not like the sight of this:
VIDEO (sort of): Multi-million dollar Ferrari 250 TR crashing at Monterey Historics — Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/08/17/video-sort-of-multi-million-dollar-ferrari-250-tr-crashing-at/)

Yeah...."Hello, um Ferrari, I kinda bent my 250 TR....can you fix it please..."...

whiteballz
08-17-2009, 07:26 PM
IIRC most of these cars when on track dont use the original body panels?

NicFromLA
08-17-2009, 07:47 PM
Whoops . . .

henk4
08-17-2009, 07:48 PM
Last year the same guy lost the same car on the same space in front of my camera....

f6fhellcat13
08-17-2009, 08:00 PM
Can we see, please?

henk4
08-17-2009, 08:03 PM
Can we see, please?

pictures are at home...still in SF.

Sledgehammer
08-17-2009, 10:38 PM
Buff it, it will come out.

kingofthering
08-17-2009, 11:21 PM
pictures are at home...still in SF.

Ooh, where are you staying, if you don't mind me asking. :D

togos452
08-18-2009, 12:08 AM
ouch indeed

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coldtrackdays/

kingofthering
08-18-2009, 12:16 AM
That'll buff out. All joking aside, it's pretty cringe-inducing seeing the bodywork scuff and bend like that. It may have replica body panels, but it's still a Ferrari 250 Testarossa. :(

W.R.
08-18-2009, 12:35 AM
I cried.

Dino Scuderia
08-18-2009, 04:12 AM
IIRC the same owner has had the car since the 50's and when he got it it had a Chevy V8 in it.

No wonder the poor TR keeps trying to commit suicide.

Q TOY
08-18-2009, 04:40 AM
Nice to see the car used! I would much prefer to see a few creased body panels than it be sat in a climate controled barn!

whiteballz
08-18-2009, 04:41 AM
exactly Q toy.

IBrake4Rainbows
08-18-2009, 05:51 AM
It'll panel beat out. And he'll do more damage to it next year.

Good on him.

henk4
08-18-2009, 07:59 AM
It'll panel beat out. And he'll do more damage to it next year.

Good on him.

He has been a participant in every edition of the Monterey Historics so far.

cmcpokey
08-18-2009, 12:25 PM
He has been a participant in every edition of the Monterey Historics so far.

with that particular TR, which he has owned for 40+ years.

baddabang
08-18-2009, 12:55 PM
IIRC the same owner has had the car since the 50's and when he got it it had a Chevy V8 in it.

No wonder the poor TR keeps trying to commit suicide.

Probably a better engine...

henk4
08-19-2009, 10:53 AM
Last year's incident, the car came straight towards me, then veered to the right but ended rear end first in a big cloud of dust. No real damage.

f6fhellcat13
08-19-2009, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the pictures.
Shame the same thing didn't happen this year...

DesmoRob
08-20-2009, 12:35 AM
What a car. As much as it hurts to see her get beat and bent, its always comforting to know that the owner will most certainly have everything looking and running tip top again soon after.

I'd have no problem tracking a Ferrari, although I wouldn't push it hard enough to risk damaging the body. Lucky for me there won't be much temptation, because the okanagan doesn't really have any tracks aside from ovals (damn rednecks).

henk4
08-20-2009, 12:37 AM
I think we also have to understand that for the owner the original cost of the car was hardly top dollar, so we may consider it a significant problem, but he is enjoying his car (and putting it over the limit sometimes).

DesmoRob
08-20-2009, 12:49 AM
I think we also have to understand that for the owner the original cost of the car was hardly top dollar, so we may consider it a significant problem, but he is enjoying his car (and putting it over the limit sometimes).

I think its admirable that he's held onto it for this amount of time. That's what you'd call true love. Most would have taken their capital gain and ran with it.

NSXType-R
08-20-2009, 02:21 PM
I think its admirable that he's held onto it for this amount of time. That's what you'd call true love. Most would have taken their capital gain and ran with it.

Or worse- left it in a showroom/museum for the rest of its life.

I think an aircraft restorer put it nicely- if you were to exhibit animals, the easy way would be to shoot it and stuff it. Why put it in a zoo? The same thing with cars, airplanes, etc. You can't reproduce the feeling of it without it moving.

f6fhellcat13
08-20-2009, 02:27 PM
Or, if we are to stretch the metaphor, observe the animals in the wild; the racetrack. :)

johnnynumfiv
08-20-2009, 07:14 PM
You think he would slow down a bit before that corkscrew. Instead of N or R's on cars for Newby or Rookie, they should put S's for senlie. :)

csl177
08-21-2009, 12:47 AM
He has been a participant in every edition of the Monterey Historics so far.

Yup... a genuine Friend Of Steve. Which is why even though he's overcooked several spots on track with his redoubtable (if somewhat abused) TR, he's invited back regularly. :p

For nubes, one must be a FOS to get away with it... otherwise, one off-track excursion and it's over. You don't get "invited" back to play, multi-million-dollar vintage racer or not. I can't say the Historics won't progress without Mr. Earle at the helm any more. :cool:

Matra et Alpine
08-21-2009, 02:15 AM
Not seeing anything that led up to it I have to ask what condition his tyres were, brakes ? Any sand on the road - I've been told Laguna is bad for that.
So a number of reasons to be "caught out" possibly :)

csl177, in the UK classic "racing" then not only do we see "offs" but also an occasional rubbing and nudging. Not "malicious" but accepted as a possibility when racing.

If you can find it, look for the MotorsTV coverage of the Silverstone Classic race weekend .... I'd rather see some old guy pusing the car hard on track than some younger guy storing it in a shed to "make a profit on it" :(

csl177
08-21-2009, 09:43 AM
You guys generally have a more competitive attitude concerning vintage racing, Matra... a Good Thing. I agree with you.
In some quarters of American vintage racing it can be a parade. There is genuine competition at most, though.
The issue I described had to do with something most know as the 13/13 rule: if you have an incident you can't have another for 13 months (unless you're a Friend of Steve). Afterwards 13 months probation (unless you're FOS... and happen to have an important TR).

As to conditions, well the track wasn't slippy though it can be, he just got deep on turn one in the first case. Can't explain the corkscrew incident, but it isn't hard to overdrive a car with drum brakes on this track.

Yes, he's owned the car a long time. Perhaps it's time to use a younger driver.:rolleyes: