HSV GTS Vs HONDA NSX

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Holden HSV GTS Vs Honda NSX type R

both 2002 year

just to settle a dispute between me and a friend, which of these cars do you feel is superior and why?

[ozexige]

Ask 'Cheysucks' (he means ChevysRule but wont admit it) he knows everything about rice-burners.
:D

[BaRRa]

Either you or your friend is a moron, the NSX Type R has it all over the GTS. The NSX lapped the Nurburgring in 8:09 which happens to be the same time set my the Ferrari 360 Modena. It was also quicker by 0.5 sec than the 360 around the Hockenheim Club Circuit.

It is no contest!

[SlickHolden]

But the GTS hasn't been to the Nurburgring.
And if a Road standard VZ SS Can clock a standing start time of 02.44 At bathurst then you would have to say the GTS should be respected :D

[Slicks]

Thats a bad comparison, there hardly the same type of car... The NSX type R would definetly take it.

[NAZCA C2]

just like Slicks said the NSX would put the smack down on the Holden. The NSX is one of the best handling cars on earth. the Holden probably would accelerate a bit faster than the NSX but that doesnt matter on a road course. the NSX also has the HSV beat on weight.

[PerfAdv]

Holden HSV GTS Vs Honda NSX type R

both 2002 year

just to settle a dispute between me and a friend, which of these cars do you feel is superior and why?

Interesting comparo. I admit I don't know a lot about the HSV GTS, and what I know I learned in the last five minutes. The only thing similar in these two cars is price and 0-60 acceleration times. The HSV actually has a slightly quicker 1/4 mile times with higher terminal speed. So yes, in a 1/4 mile drag HSV beats NSX. (Very impressive) but other than this, it's all NSX.

The NSX has a 500 lbs weight advantage. It's a mid-engine design. The NSX employs all-aluminum construction. In addition to the body panels, even the suspension components are alum-alloy, meaning to much less unsprung weight. All this weight savings translate to superior handling. Also consider, center of gravity. As said in an earlier post: NSXs run with Ferraris 360s on the track.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Dead thread, but depends on what you want out of a car. If you want a fast-as-hell family car that can take a family of four on holiday with some luggage, then the HSV is for you. If you want a seat-of-the-pants set of thrills, coupled with a chassis apprved by Ayrton Senna, and pretty sexy looks, then take the Honda.

[SlickHolden]

I have in front of me some times of a recent best bang for your bucks$ 2004 in a recent Motor mag book.....

Wakefield Park Lap times
BMW M3 CSL 01:07.94
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VIII 01:10.34
Lotus Elise 111R 01:10.50
BWM 645Ci 01:11.09
Audi RS6 01:11.44
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 01:12.00
HSV GTS 01:12.16
Subaru Impreza WRX 01:12.65
Audi S4 01:13.41
Subaru Liberty GT 01:13.66
Chrysler Crossfire 01:14.35
P.S a GTS Coupe has a best time at this track of 1:11.81
There was also 13 more cars but we don't wanna go into all them.

Wakefield Park Top speeds
BMW M3 CSL 183Kp-h
Audi RS6 181Kp-h
HSV GTS 179Kp-h
Holden Commodore SV8 175Kp-h
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII 175Kp-h
BWM 645Ci 172Kp-h
Audi S4 171Kp-h
Holden Commodore SS 168Kp-h
18 More cars can't be botherd doing them all:D

400 Metre**
Audi RS6 13.08
HSV GTS 13.36
BMW M3 CSL 13.40
Subaru Impreza WRX STi 13.62
Mitsubbishi Lancer Evo VIII 13.84
Lotus Elise 111R 13.99
Subaru Impreza WRX 14.01
BWM 645Ci 14.27
Audi S4 14.38
Holden Commodore SV8 14.44
Holden Commodore SS 14.50
15 More cars

The cars on the list were
BMW M3 CSL
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VIII
Lotus Elise 111R
BMW 645Ci
Audi RS6
Subaru Impreza WRX STi
HSV GTS Subaru Impreza WRX
Holden Commodore SV8
Holden Commodore SS
Audi S4
Subaru Liberty GT
Chrysler Crossfore
Peugeot 206 GTi180
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
Volkswagen Golf R32
Mazda MX-5 SE
Holden Astra Turbo SRi
Volvo S40 T5
Mini Cooper S works
Mazda SP23
Toyota MR2 Spyder
Holden Barina SRi
Suzuki Ignis Sports
Ford Fiesta Zetec
Smart roadster

[Niko_Fx]

Well, that list doesn't really show anything because the NSX isn't there.

But here's a way we could kind of compare them:
This is from your list:
BMW M3 CSL 01:07.94
HSV GTS 01:12.16

I grabbed the M3 CSL because it was on the top of your list.

If we compare the M3 CSL at Top gear with the NSX R at top gear:
BMW M3 CSL 1 min 28.0 secs -
Honda NSX Type-R (Wet) 1 min 31.6 secs -

The difference between the HSV GTS and the M3 CSL is 5.78 seconds

The difference between the NSX R and M3 CSL on a longer track in which a faster car can create more difference on the lap time is 3.6 seconds And the day the NSX ran was on a wet track which gave it a disadvantage.

Then you can see this video of the NSX beating an M3 CSL on a track... as well as a Ferrari 360.

http://www.norcalevo.net/video/motegibattle.wmv ---> Credits go to D-Quik

Also your times show that on the 1/4 mile the HSV GTS beats the M3, but on the track it doesn't, showing that the car's acceleration is actually better than the handling.

Good car, awesome speed and yes, awesome handling too because its times are not bad... But cannot beat the NSX R. Is just an overall better car.

[Colty]

It would also depend on the track, like if u have a tight circuit like Oran Park then the NSX will own the GTS yet if its a free flowing track with lots of straight like Bathurst then the gap will close

[SlickHolden]

Well, that list doesn't really show anything because the NSX isn't there.

But here's a way we could kind of compare them:
This is from your list:
BMW M3 CSL 01:07.94
HSV GTS 01:12.16

I grabbed the M3 CSL because it was on the top of your list.

If we compare the M3 CSL at Top gear with the NSX R at top gear:
BMW M3 CSL 1 min 28.0 secs -
Honda NSX Type-R (Wet) 1 min 31.6 secs -

The difference between the HSV GTS and the M3 CSL is 5.78 seconds

The difference between the NSX R and M3 CSL on a longer track in which a faster car can create more difference on the lap time is 3.6 seconds And the day the NSX ran was on a wet track which gave it a disadvantage.

Then you can see this video of the NSX beating an M3 CSL on a track... as well as a Ferrari 360.

http://www.norcalevo.net/video/motegibattle.wmv ---> Credits go to D-Quik

Also your times show that on the 1/4 mile the HSV GTS beats the M3, but on the track it doesn't, showing that the car's acceleration is actually better than the handling.

Good car, awesome speed and yes, awesome handling too because its times are not bad... But cannot beat the NSX R. Is just an overall better car.
On top gear when boof head drove a HSV GTO around he said it was the best car he had driven there and so much fun :D
That was only the GTO not the GTS :D
Also the NSX in Aussie $$ is a Good $100,000+ more :eek: And HSV doesn't have any F1 help :eek:

But you got to say for it's price and performence the GTS shit on the NSX..
What kind of car is the Crysler Crossfire ?? I have seen them on the raods, Are they just a coupe that's not built for high performence?? Or am i wrong on that i just don't know about it ?

[whiteballz]

the chrysler crossfire was designed by a brit, made by germans, and sold as american :) :D!!

its a soft car to drive apparently, dad test drove one in last time we were in sydney.

the GTS is a big V8 vs a medium large v6. so it all depends..
but the GTS looks like sh!t.

[SlickHolden]

I have never seen shit with wheels :eek:

[whiteballz]

i could show you!

*begins to open photoshop*


:D

[SlickHolden]

I have seen wheels running over shit :D :p

[UK CARS]

Have you seen my Nsx?
Theres no aguement who would be better then! :p