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Rockefella
01-10-2010, 01:27 PM
Nominate your choice for Car of the Year 2009

Maximum of 3 nominations per poster please

Niko_Fx
01-10-2010, 01:59 PM
Nissan 370Z

Ferrer
01-10-2010, 02:13 PM
Jaguar XJ (X351): Lightweight construction, clever new engines. And all wrapped up in a body that doesn't look from the 60's. The interior is also stunning.
Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W212): A technological tour de force. Crammed with clever technology and clever new engines, desgined to use as little fuel as possible while still maintaining performance.
Subaru Legacy (5th gen): Yes, it has gone bland and ugly, but it still has that intrinsical engineering and driving factor. Despite everything it should still be UCP's favourite family car.

coolieman1220
01-10-2010, 02:17 PM
370Z
BMW 7 Series
Chevrolet Camaro

Ferrer
01-10-2010, 02:26 PM
370Z
BMW 7 Series
Chevrolet Camaro
Those are technically 2008 cars.

Revo
01-10-2010, 02:28 PM
Renault Laguna Coupe
Mercedes-Benz E-class
Ferrari 458 Italia

henk4
01-10-2010, 02:43 PM
Citroen C3 Picasso
Jaguar XJ (with the new 3 litre Diesel engine)
Peugeot 5008

faksta
01-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Jaguar XJ

The rest I haven't yet come up with, will do it later :)

f6fhellcat13
01-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Genesis Coupe
AM Rapide
Lexus LFA
I was hoping my list would be a little more realistic.

Kitdy
01-10-2010, 03:40 PM
Genesis Coupe

Introduced at a car show in 2008 - arrived in the US in 2009.

Does this count? What the hell are the rules exactly?

henk4
01-10-2010, 03:44 PM
Introduced at a car show in 2008 - arrived in the US in 2009.

Does this count? What the hell are the rules exactly?

my guess would be "on sale" in at least one market....(and yes, pre-ordering cases like the Enzo would complicate that, but we could change that in "delivery of the first car to the public")

f6fhellcat13
01-10-2010, 03:48 PM
I think COTY should be any car available in '09 just as COTD should be any car available in any of the years '00-'09.
(Though my COTY list doesn't reflect this.)

Ferrer
01-10-2010, 04:12 PM
my guess would be "on sale" in at least one market....(and yes, pre-ordering cases like the Enzo would complicate that, but we could change that in "delivery of the first car to the public")
The Camaro was introduced in 2008 and could be preordered in 2008. But deliveries actually started in 2009. Where does that leave it?

I personally think it should be introduced in 2009. (And the same for COTD)

Cobrafan427
01-10-2010, 08:58 PM
how about model yr of 2009 only?

IBrake4Rainbows
01-10-2010, 09:06 PM
MY is a concept that really only exists in the US, and mostly because it's constantly misused.

I would suggest the date of delivery is the date we should use.

henk4
01-11-2010, 02:22 AM
The Camaro was introduced in 2008 and could be preordered in 2008. But deliveries actually started in 2009. Where does that leave it?

I personally think it should be introduced in 2009. (And the same for COTD)

The Camaro is a 2009 car according to my definition.

SilverG35SportC
01-11-2010, 06:56 AM
(In No Order)
1.Nissan 370Z = For improving vastly on a product that only needed marginal improvement.

2. Porsche 911 Turbo = For being able to be bitch slapped by the Gt-R, walk into the shadows, and come out even better. For the same reasons as the 370 but people will now be (somewhat) able to justify buying a 911 Turbo again.

3. 458 Italia = For Ferrari proving they actually can make a beautiful car again. But, massive discredit to Ferrari for never offering manual again. Even on the 458. (I dont know who should be more ashamed, Ferrari for not offering it, or buyers for not wanting it...they said it was purely logistical)

NicFromLA
01-11-2010, 09:04 AM
Ferrari California
Jaguar XJ
VW Scirocco

Runner Up: Lambo Gallardo Balboni.

LeonOfTheDead
01-11-2010, 11:26 AM
Ferrari California
Jaguar XJ
VW Scirocco

Runner Up: Lambo Gallardo Balboni.

I tihnk both the Scirocco and the California are a bit "old" for this nomination.

NicFromLA
01-11-2010, 11:29 AM
I tihnk both the Scirocco and the California are a bit "old" for this nomination.

I meant Scirocco R, which from the reviews seems awesome, and Californias are 2010s and were delivered in fall of 2009.

Kitdy
01-25-2010, 07:17 PM
Nissan 370Z

Jaguar XJ (X351)

Mercedes-Benz E Class (W212)

Subaru Legacy (5th Generation)

Renault Laguna Coupe

Ferrari 458 Italia

Citroen C3 Picasso

Jaguar XJ 3L Diesel

Peugeot 5008

Genesis Coupe

Aston Martin Rapide

Lexus LFA

Porsche 911 Turbo Facelift

Ferrari California

VW Scirocco R

I've omitted some that some members considered 2008 cars. This is the list so far though, and the nomination period has closed I think.

Ferrer
01-25-2010, 07:19 PM
Isn't the XJ TDVi and the XJ technically the same car?

Kitdy
01-25-2010, 07:23 PM
Isn't the XJ TDVi and the XJ technically the same car?

Hush I listed both - you read what I said in the other thread about blanket models vs. specific models.

We needs to resolve that problem, post haste.

Rockefella
01-25-2010, 09:39 PM
I'm gonna start the voting this week.

Sledgehammer
01-25-2010, 09:42 PM
I also second the Genesis Coupe. Great drive in both the 4 and the 6.

Jack_Bauer
01-28-2010, 03:20 AM
If nominations are still open...

Renaultsport Clio 200

Jaguar XFR

Not sure if this counts as a 2009 or 2010 car, but if it's allowed into the competition it should win on beauty alone...

Morgan Aero Supersports

http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/morgan_events/la_motorshow/morgan_party_034_large.jpg

http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/morgan_events/la_motorshow/morgan_party_004_w_large.jpg

http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/morgan_events/la_motorshow/morgan_party_003_w_large.jpg

Kitdy
02-10-2010, 02:44 PM
Nissan 370Z

Jaguar XJ (X351)

Mercedes-Benz E Class (W212)

Subaru Legacy (5th Generation)

Renault Laguna Coupe

Ferrari 458 Italia

Citroen C3 Picasso

Jaguar XJ

Peugeot 5008

Genesis Coupe

Aston Martin Rapide

Lexus LFA

Porsche 911 Turbo

Ferrari California

Volkswagen Scirocco (The nomination was for the R but we are doing blanket so it will include all Scrioccos)

Jaguar XF (Once again, nomination for the R but this will include all models)

Morgan Aero Supersports - does this count?

roosterjuicer
02-10-2010, 02:55 PM
458 italia
camaro ss

did the zr1 come out this year or last year?
if it came out this year i nominate that

Kitdy
02-10-2010, 05:03 PM
458 italia
camaro ss

did the zr1 come out this year or last year?
if it came out this year i nominate that

I saw the ZR1 at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, I think it debuted as a 2009 model in 2008 making it ineligible.

f6fhellcat13
02-10-2010, 05:11 PM
I saw the ZR1 at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show, I think it debuted as a 2009 model in 2008 making it ineligible.
A 2009 model should count for the 2009 Car of the Year. I highly doubt one could have been had in 2008 aside from maybe the very first which was delivered to Jay Leno in mid-December '08. It's an '09 car.

Kitdy
02-10-2010, 05:24 PM
A 2009 model should count for the 2009 Car of the Year. I highly doubt one could have been had in 2008 aside from maybe the very first which was delivered to Jay Leno in mid-December '08. It's an '09 car.

Well the ZR1 was in the awards last year.

I don't have a problem with any car in production in 2009 being eligible, but others do, and if the ZR1 already had a shot at the award, should it get another one? I mean don't you only have one shot at winning?

f6fhellcat13
02-10-2010, 05:35 PM
Well are we voting for the car that was best suited to the way the world was in 2009, or the best new car introduced in 2009?
I think it should be the former.

Ferrer
02-10-2010, 05:57 PM
I think it should be the latter.

Kitdy
02-10-2010, 06:22 PM
I think it should be the latter.

It's basically been decided by consensus and precedent to be the latter.

I would then say the ZR1 is ineligible - any car that's already been in the awards should not be reallowed.

roosterjuicer
02-10-2010, 06:28 PM
very well, that seems fair.

458 Italia
Camaro SS
Chevy Equinox

Kitdy
02-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Chevy Equinox

You may like it, it may be good, and props to you nominating what you like, but do you really think this has a snowball's chance in hell of contending for car of the year?

Will it get 1 vote?

roosterjuicer
02-10-2010, 09:01 PM
You may like it, it may be good, and props to you nominating what you like, but do you really think this has a snowball's chance in hell of contending for car of the year?

Will it get 1 vote?

Probably not. it wont even get my vote. But its like having your ralph nader's or Ron Paul's on the ballot. Pointless, but at least a recognition that there is other pretty good stuff out there that in other circumstances may be a viable choice.

An equinox is a great, practical, economical, good looking, affordable, comfortable car which leads or is very close to the top of its class in every regard. Also i believe its engine won or was nominated for an engine of the year award. And its a new model for 2009. I thought it deserved at least some recognition of the fact that its a good car that most of us could afford.

Kitdy
02-21-2010, 03:00 AM
The Morgan is good - it will be included.

Final list of nominees:

Nissan 370Z

Jaguar XJ (X351)

Mercedes-Benz E-Class (W212)

Subaru Legacy (5th Generation)

Renault Laguna Coupe

Ferrari 458 Italia

Citroen C3 Picasso

Jaguar XJ

Peugeot 5008

Genesis Coupe

Aston Martin Rapide

Lexus LFA

Porsche 911 Turbo

Ferrari California

Volkswagen Scirocco R

Jaguar XFR

Morgan Aero Supersports

Nominations are close.