View Full Version : European COTY: Nissan Leaf
henk4
11-29-2010, 05:37 AM
The Nissan is the European Car of the Year, just ahead of the Giulietta, the Opel Meriva and the Ford C-Max.
A bit fun as a Nissan electric car (not the leaf though) created a larger fire on a danish ferry not long ago!
aiasib
11-29-2010, 06:56 AM
I haven't seen a single one here in the wild yet. Are they prevalent in Denmark? Or anywhere else in Europe? UK? Anyone?
also, that makes two COTYs awarded to all-electric cars...auspicious or gimmicky? What do you think?
Wouter Melissen
11-29-2010, 07:04 AM
also, that makes two COTYs awarded to all-electric cars...auspicious or gimmicky? What do you think?
The Volt is not all-electric. Its drivetrain makes perfect sense, unlike the Leaf's.
Ferrer
11-29-2010, 07:12 AM
What a surprise.
aiasib
11-29-2010, 08:04 AM
The Volt is not all-electric. Its drivetrain makes perfect sense, unlike the Leaf's.
True true. I stand corrected.
EDIT: in answering my earlier post about availability- info from wikpda says: limited releases in in 2011 with "...global market availability planned for 2012" and "...full US market rollout planned for 2012."
Seems kinda anachronistic or premature, to give the award out now...
Matra et Alpine
11-29-2010, 09:57 AM
Not sure why the Leaf isn't sensible IF they install enough 500V charging locations 9 ie in garages and office parking blocks )
I AM please to see Audi e-tron concept demonstrated a state-of-the-art petrol engine to charge it's batteries when running .... a WANKEL :) :)
As usual the biggest annoyance on the Leaf is ...
Equivalent $$ prices : (from wiki)
Japan $44,600
United States $32,780 <<<<<<<<<<< WTF :(
Ireland $45,100
UK $44,800
Netherlands $42,300
LHamilton_w
11-29-2010, 07:27 PM
As usual the biggest annoyance on the Leaf is ...
Equivalent $$ prices : (from wiki)
Japan $44,600
United States $32,780 <<<<<<<<<<< WTF :(
Ireland $45,100
UK $44,800
Netherlands $42,300
Haha :p. You Euros get ALL the options though and many more configurations. Oh well, I guess that's the tradeoff for us paying lower prices...
I don't remember, but is it $32k before or after the tax incentives?
culver
11-29-2010, 08:05 PM
$32k is the pre-incentive price.
Ferrer
11-30-2010, 12:13 AM
By the way, a long time ago we discussed about the price differences, and it turned out to be that our prices weren't the highest...
IBrake4Rainbows
11-30-2010, 04:22 AM
It's an interesting choice, for sure. I guess it's because it's a truly viable example of an electric car as supported by a large manufacturer.
Or it's greenwashing, make up your own mind.
Is this the first time the award has been given to a Non-EU made car?
Ferrer
11-30-2010, 04:25 AM
Is this the first time the award has been given to a Non-EU made car?
Nope. It was another Nissan, the Micra in 1993.
IBrake4Rainbows
11-30-2010, 04:29 AM
I believe the Micra was made in Sunderland, UK.
TVRs4eva
11-30-2010, 05:12 AM
Not sure why the Leaf isn't sensible IF they install enough 500V charging locations 9 ie in garages and office parking blocks )
I AM please to see Audi e-tron concept demonstrated a state-of-the-art petrol engine to charge it's batteries when running .... a WANKEL :) :)
As usual the biggest annoyance on the Leaf is ...
Equivalent $$ prices : (from wiki)
Japan $44,600
United States $32,780 <<<<<<<<<<< WTF :(
Ireland $45,100
UK $44,800
Netherlands $42,300
Well, a part of me thinks that a large portion of the US car market still isn't open to the idea of driving around in a small, "wimpy" electric car. It seems more suited for the Euro market, and honestly, if it were to cost $45K USD, I'm betting that every state besides California and New York would have a real tough time selling it.