GT4 Master Car List

[DarkPhenix]

READ ME FIRST: This thread is meant to list any and all cars that are either confirmed or semi-confirmed to being in GT4. I would appreciate it if people who find new cars would post their news in this thread, and not create all new threads because this will help keep the clutter and redundant posting down in this forum. Also, please do not attempt to type up your own list, merely post any new cars that are not already on the list below. Many thanks in advanced...

The cars in this thread will be marked according to how they are known to us at the moment. The system will be as follows:
Cars in black have been seen in screenshots and therefore are assumed to be in GT4
Cars in red have been seen being photographed and tested by Sony/Polyphony Digital and may or may not be in GT4
Cars in green have been mentioned by magazines or in interviews as being in the game, yet have not been seen. Also may not be in GT4
Cars marked with an asterik (*) are from GT4: Prologue. These cars may not make it into the final version of GT4.

In parenthesis is the number of cars in each of the three color categories for that manufacturer. A complete total is at the bottom.


AC (0 - 1 - 0)
Cobra

ACURA (2 - 0 - 0)
CL 3.2 Type-S ('00)
Integra Type-R ('01)

ALFA ROMEO (6 - 2 - 0)
147 GTA ('02)
155 V6 TI (DTM '93)
156 2.5 V6 24V ('99)
156 GTA
156 Sport Wagon 2.5 V6 24V
GTV 3.0 V6 24V ('01)
Guilia Sprint GTA 1600 ('65)
Spyder

ALPINE (1 - 0 - 0)
(Renault) A110 1600S ('73)

AMUSE (1 - 1 - 0)
350Z
S2000

ASL (2 - 0 - 0)
Garaiya ('02)
Garaiya (ARTA JGTC '03)

AST0N MARTIN (1 - 2 - 0)
DB7 GT
Vanquish ('00)
V8 Vantage V600

AUDI (7 - 0 - 1)
(Abt) TT-R (Sony DTM '02)
A2 1.4 ('02)
A3 3.2 Quattro ('03)
A6 S-Line Quattro 2.7T
RS6 Sedan ('02)
RS6 Avant
S3 ('02)
TT 1.8T Quattro ('00)

AUSTIN-HEALEY (0 - 1 - 0)
3000

AUTOBIANCHI (1 - 0 - 0)
A112 Abarth ('79)

BENTLEY (0 - 1 - 1)
Continental (older car)
Continental GT

BMW (6 - 4 - 0)
120d ('04)
120i ('04)
320i (ETCC '03)
Concept M5 ('04)
M3 SMG-II
M3 GTR Race Car ('01)
M5
X5 4.6iS
V12 LMR ('99)
Z4 3.0i

BRISTOL (0 - 0 - 2)
402
Blenheim

BUICK (0 - 0 - 1)
Special (60s, custom tuned)

CADILLAC (1 - 0 - 1)
Cien Concept ('02)
CTS

CATERHAM (0 - 1 - 0)
Fireblade

CHAPARRAL (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

CHEVROLET (10 - 0 - 0)
Camaro Z28 302
Camaro Z28 ('97)
Camaro SS ('00)
Chevelle SS 454 ('70)
Corvette Convertible ('54)
Corvette Grand Sport
Corvette Stingray L46 350 ('68)
Corvette Z06
Corvette C5-R ('00)
SSR ('03)

CHRYSLER (2 - 0 - 0)
Crossfire ('03)
Prowler

CITROËN (1 - 3 - 1)
BX GTi
C5 V6 Exclusive ('03)
CX
GX
Saxo Super 1600

DAIHATSU (5 - 1 - 0)
Copen Active Top* ('02)
Midget II D-Type ('98)
Mira TR-XX Avanzato-R* ('97)
Move CX 2WD ('95)
Naked
Storia X4 ('98)

DODGE (4 - 3 - 1)
Challenger R/T
Tomahawk Concept
SRT-4 ('03)
Super Bee
Viper GTS* ('98)
Viper GTS-R Team Oreca
Viper GTSR Concept ('00)
Viper SRT-10

DOME (1 - 0 - 0)
Zero Concept ('78)

DONKERVOORT (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

FIAT (5 - 0 - 0)
500F ('65)
Barchetta Giovane Due ('00)
Coupe Turbo Plus ('00)
Panda 1000S ('90)
Punto HGT Abarth ('00)

FORD (10 - 3 - 5)
(Boss) Mustang 429
Escort Cosworth
Escort RS Turbo
Escort Rally Car ('96)
Falcon XR8 (FPR V8 Supercar)
Fiesta RS Turbo
Focus ST170
Focus Rally Car* ('99)
Focus RS
GT* ('05)
GT LM Edition
GT40 Race Car ('69)
Ka
Model T
Mustang SVT Cobra-R ('00)
RS200
Sierra Cosworth
Taurus SHO ('98)

GINETTA (2 - 4 - 0)
G4 ('61)
G12
G15
G20
G21
G33

GUI GUI MURAO (0 - 1 - 0)
RX-7

HONDA (34 - 8 - 2)
(Ballade Sport) CRX 1.5i ('83)
1300 Coupe 9S
Accord Aerodeck 2.0 Si
Accord 2.0 Si
Accord SiR
Accord Wagon SiR
Accord Coupe (US) ('88)
Accord Coupe LX V6 6-speed
Beat Version F* ('91)
Civic 1600S
Civic SiR
Civic SiR-II ('91)
Civic Type-R* ('98)
Civic Type-R ('01)
City Turbo-II ('83)
CRX SiR ('90)
CRX del Sol SiR ('92)
DualNote Concept ('01)
Fit W* ('01)
HSC Concept* ('03)
Insight ('99)
Integra Type-R (2-door)* ('98)
Integra Type-R (4-door)
Integra Type-R ('01)
Integra Type-R LM Edition
Jazz Turbo
N360 ('67)
NSX Type-R ('92)
NSX Type-S Zero* ('97)
NSX (Takata Dome JGTC '03)*
NSX-R ('02)
NSX-R LM Edition Race Car
Odyssey L-Type* ('03)
Prelude XX
Prelude 2.0 Si
Prelude Si VTEC ('91)
Prelude Type-S ('96)
S800
S2000
S2000 Type-V
S2000 ('03)*
T360
Today
Z Act ('70)

HYUNDAI (3 - 0 - 0)
Clix Concept
Coupe
HCD6 Concept

INFINITI (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

ISUZU (2 - 1 - 0)
117 Coupe ('68)
Bellett GT
Piazza

JAGUAR (3 - 1 - 3)
E-Type
S-Type R
XJ220 Race Car ('92)
XJ6
XJR
XKR Coupe
X-Type 3.0 V6 SE

JEEP (0 - 2 - 0)
Cherokee Sport
Wrangler Sport

JENSEN (0 - 1 - 2)
541R
Interceptor
S-V8

LANCIA (3 - 0 - 0)
Delta S4 Rally Car ('85)
Delta Intergrale HF Rally Car* ('92)
Stratos Rally Car ('77)

LAND ROVER (0 - 2 - 1)
Discovery HSE
Range Rover Vogue
Range Stormer Concept

LEADING EDGE (0 - 1 - 0)
RT240

LISTER (1 - 0 - 0)
Storm V12 Race Car

LOTUS (6 - 1 - 0)
340R
Elise Sport 190* ('98)
Elise ('00)
Esprit Turbo HC ('87)
Esprit Sport 350 ('00)
Europa Special ('71)
Motorsport Elise ('99)

MARCOS (0 - 4 - 0)
LM600
Mantaray
Mantis
T250

MAZDA (14 - 0 - 1)
787B (LeMans '91)
Atenza ('01)
Atenza Sport Wagon
Carol 360 Deluxe ('62)
Cosmo Sport ('68)
Demio Sport* ('03)
Eunos Roadster 1.6* ('89)
Eunos Roadster RS ('00)
Familia
Kusabi Concept* ('03)
RX-7 Savanna GT-X ('90)
RX-7 Spirit-R Type-A* ('02)
RX-7 Type-R Bathurst-R
RX-8 Type-S* ('03)
RX-8 LM Edition

McLAREN (1 - 0 - 0)
F1 GTR Long Tail (Fina LeMans '97)*

MERCEDES-BENZ (7 - 3 - 1)
(Sauber) C9 (LeMans '89)
190E 2.5 16V Evolution II (DTM '92)
300SL Coupe ('54)
C32 AMG
CL600
CLK-DTM (D2 DTM '00)
CLK-GTR Race Car ('98)
E500 Avant
E55 AMG
SL500
SL55 AMG* ('02)

MG (1 - 1 - 1)
Maestro Turbo
Metro 6R4
MGF

MINE'S (2 - 2 - 0)
350Z
Lancer Evolution VI GSR
Lancer Evolution VIII
Skyline GT-R N1 V-Spec (R34) ('00)

MINI (3 - 0 - 0)
Cooper 1.3i ('98)
Cooper
Cooper S ('02)

[DarkPhenix]

MITSUBISHI (22 - 4 - 1)
Airtrek Turbo-R
Colt (90s)
Colt 1.5 Sport-X Version* ('02)
Colt Galant GTO (70s)
Eclipse GT ('95)
Eclipse Spyder GTS ('03)
eK Wagon
FTO GP Version-R ('97)
FTO LM Edition
Galant VR-4
Galant FTO 1600 (70s)
GTO Twin Turbo ('95)
HSR-II Concept
i Concept* ('03)
Lancer 1600GSR ('74)
Lancer Evolution GSR ('92)
Lancer Evolution IV GSR ('96)
Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car* ('97)
Lancer Evolution V GSR* ('98)
Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('99)
Lancer Evolution VII GSR ('01)
Lancer Evolution VII Rally Car
Lancer Evolution VIII MR* ('03)
Lancer Evolution VIII GSR* ('03)
Legnum VR-4 Type-V ('98)
Mirage Cyborg ZR ('97)
Starion 4WD Rally Car

MORGAN (0 - 3 - 0)
4/4
Aero-8
Aero-8R Race Car

MORRIS (0 - 0 - 1)
Minor

NISMO (4 - 5 - 1)
270R
400R (R33) ('96)
Fairlady Z Gran Turismo Aero ('02)
Fairlady Z Z-Tune* ('03)
March S-Tune
March Cup Car
Skyline S-Tune (V35)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R32) ('90)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R33)
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R34)
IF YOU ARE READING THIS MESSAGE, THIS LIST WAS COPIED AND PASTED WITHOUT MY PERMISSION -The359
NISSAN (40 - 1 - 11)
180SX Type-X ('96)
240RS Rally Car ('85)
Be-1
Bluebird 1600 Deluxe ('69)
Bluebird 1600SSS Rally Car ('69)
Bluebird SSS-R (80s)
Cedric 300LV VIP
Cima (80s)
Cube X ('98)
Cube EX CVT
Fairlady 240ZG* ('71)
Fairlady Z 432R
Fairlady ZT (280ZT)
Fairlady ZX (300ZX)
Fairlady Z Version S 6MT ('02)
Fairlady Z Roadster ('02)*
Fairlady Z LM Edition
GT-R Concept
GT-R LM Edition
March 12C 5-door* ('03)
March 14S
March Super Turbo
Primera 2.0Te
Primera 20V ('01)
Pulsar EXA Canopy LA Version Type-S ('88)
Pulsar EXA2
Pulsar GTi-R
R390 GT1 Race Car ('98)
R89C ('89)
Sileighty
Silvia 1800Qs (S13)
Silvia 2000Ks (S13) ('91)
Silvia K's Aero (S14)* ('96)
Silvia K's Aero (S15)
Skyline 350GT-8 (Sedan)
Skyline Coupe 350GT* ('03)
Skyline 2000 GT-R (mid-70s)
Skyline 2000 GT-R Hardtop Coupe (early-70s)
Skyline 2000 GT-R Sedan (60s)
Skyline Hard Top 2000 RS-X Type-C
Skyline Hard Top 2000 Turbo-RS
Skyline GTS-R (R31)
Skyline GTS-t Type-M (R32) ('91)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32)* ('94)
Skyline GT-R (R33)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R34)
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34)* ('02)
Skyline GT-R (Gran Turismo Version - R34)
Skyline GT-R (Xanavi Nismo JGTC '03)*
Sunny (60s)
Wingroad X Aero
Z Concept

NOBLE (0 - 1 - 0)
M12 GTO3

OPEL (6 - 1 - 0)
Astra CD
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix DTM '00)
Calibra Touring Car (DTM '94)
Corsa Comfort 1.4 16V ('01)
Speedster Turbo
Tigra 1.6i ('99)
Vectra 3.2 V6 ('03)

OPERA (0 - 1 - 0)
S2000

ORCA (0 - 0 - 1)
C113

PAGANI (2 - 0 - 0)
Zonda C12S 7.3 ('02)
Zonda Race Car

PANOZ (1 - 0 - 0)
Esperante GTR-1 ('98)

PESCAROLO (2 - 0 - 0)
C60-Peugeot (LeMans '03)
C60-Judd (LeMans '04)

PEUGEOT (5 - 5 - 0)
106 S16 ('03)
205 T16 Evolution II Rally Car ('86)
206 CC ('01)
206 SW S16 5-door
206 S16 Limited 3-door
206 Rally Car ('99)
307 XSi 3-door
307 XS 5-door
307 Wagon SW
406 3.0 V6 Coupe ('98)

PLYMOUTH (1 - 0 - 0)
`Cuda 440 Six Pack ('71)

PONTIAC (4 - 0 - 0)
GTO ('64)
Solstice Concept
Sunfire GXP Concept ('02)
Vibe GT ('02)

PROTO (1 - 0 - 0)
Spirra

RADICAL (0 - 1 - 0)
SR-3

RE AMEMIYA (0 - 1 - 0)
RX-7

RENAULT (6 - 1 - 0)
Avantime ('02)
Clio
Clio Sport V6 24V ('00)
Clio Sport Race Car ('00)
R5 Turbo ('80)
R5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car ('85)
Spyder

ROVER (0 - 1 - 0)
75

RUF (4 - 1 - 0)
3400S ('00)
BTR
CTR2 ('96)
R-GT ('00)
Turbo-R

SAAB (0 - 0 - 2)
9-3 Aero 2.0T
9-5 Arc 3.0T

SALEEN (1 - 0 - 0)
S7 ('02)

SEAT (0 - 0 - 0)
None Yet

SHELBY (1 - 0 - 0)
Cobra 427 ('67)

SMART (0 - 1 - 2)
City
Coupe
Roadster

SPOON (3 - 1 - 0)
Civic Type-R* ('99)
Fit Race Car* ('02)
S2000
S2000 Race Car* ('00)

SUBARU (16 - 0 - 1)
Impreza WRX STi Sedan (Version V) ('94)
Impreza WRX STi Type-R (Version VI) ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Sedan (Version VI)* ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Wagon (Version VI) ('99)
Impreza WRX STi Rally Car (Version VI)* ('99)
Impreza WRX Wagon (Version VIII)
Impreza WRX STi (Version VIII)* ('02)
Impreza WRX STi Rally Car (Version VIII)* ('03)
Impreza WRX STi (Cusco Advan JGTC '03)*
Legacy B4 2.0GT ('03)
Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec-B* ('03)
Legacy B4 3.0R* ('03)
Legacy B4 Blitzen ('00)
Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B ('96)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT ('03)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec-B* ('03)
Legacy Touring Wagon B4 3.0R* ('03)

SUZUKI (5 - 1 - 1)
Alto Works Sport Limited* ('97)
Cappuccino* ('92)
Concept-S2* ('03)
Escudo (Pikes Peak Version) ('98)
Grand Escudo
Kei Works ('02)

TECHNO PRO SPIRITS (0 - 1 - 0)
Sprinter Trueno

TOMMY KAIRA (2 - 0 - 0)
ZZ-S
ZZII

TOYOTA (34 - 2 - 1)
(Trial) Celica SS-II Tuning Car ('03)
Altezza
Aristo 3.0V
Aristo V300 ('00)
bB 1.5Z X Version* ('00)
Carina ED 2.0 X 4WS ('89)
Celica 1600GT ('70)
Celica GT-Four RC ('91)
Celica GT-Four Rally Car ('94)
Celice GT-Four ('98)
Celica GT-Four Rally Car* ('95)
Celica XX 2800GT ('81)
Corolla Levin 1600GT Apex ('83)
Corolla Rally Car ('99)
GT-One Race Car ('99)
Harrier L Edition
ist 1.5S 2WD* ('02)
MR2 1600 G-Limited Super Charger ('86)
MR2 GT-S* ('97)
MR-S V Edition
Motor Triathlon Race Car* ('03)
pod Concept
Prius (Previous Model)
Prius G Touring* ('03)
Probox Wagon F Extra Package
Sera ('92)
Soarer 430SCV ('01)
Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex Tuning Car
Supra RZ ('97)
Supra 2.5 Twin Turbo (80s)
Supra 2.5 Twin Turbo-R ('90)
Supra 3.0 GT (80s)
Supra (Tom's Castrol JGTC '01)
Supra (Esso Ultraflo JGTC '01)
Supra (Tom's WoodOne JGTC '03)*
Vitz Turbo 5-door
Vitz RS 1.5* ('00)

TRIUMPH (0 - 1 - 0)
TR2

TVR (4 - 5 - 1)
Cerbera Speed Six ('97)
Cerbera Speed 12 ('00)
Griffith 500
450 SEAC
T350C ('03)
T440R
Tamora
Tuscan Speed Six ('00)
Vixen
V8S

VOLKSWAGEN (10 - 6 - 3)
Beetle 1100 Standard ('49)
Beetle (50s)
Beetle 1300 (60s)
Bora V6 4MOTION ('01)
Golf GTi (70s)
Golf IV R32 ('03)
Karmann Ghia 1500 ('68)
Karmann Ghia Cabriolet
Lupo GTi
Lupo GTi Cup Car* ('03)
New Beetle Cabriolet
New Beetle RSi
New Beetle Turbo
Passat V6 4MOTION
Passat W8
Passat Wagon
Polo TDi
Scirocco (80s)
W12 Concept ('01)

VOLVO (0 - 4 - 1)
S40
S60 T-5
V40
V70 T-5
XC70 2.5T

WESTFIELD (0 - 1 - 0)
SEiGHT

Total Cars: (321 - 104 - 60) = 485

[UK CARS]

re-post...mustang123 did this already!

[stratos]

Only 4 Lancias !! :mad: :mad: :mad: ..... at least the game haves 485 cars .... :rolleyes:

[digitalcraft]

*Sigh* still no lamborghinis, ferarris, or actual porsches.

And no thunderbird!

[sandwich]

too bad 900 of them are skylines or lancers....disappointed at the lack of an audi urq or S1, but glad to see some groub b cars...

i'll buy it

[stratos]

and the cars aren't the only thing thats interresting in a game .... DarhPhenix do you know whats the tracks of gt4 ??

[Quiggs]

I've heard some of the older tracks from GT1 and 2 *might* make a comeback. Like Autumn Ring and High Speed Ring. Laguna Seca will be back, and they've added the full version of Nurburgring. Can't wait to tackle it in a VW R32... :D

[bk4uyeah]

in any game of course, there will be holes, but hey, how about the saleen?

[MrVette83]

Nice copy and past job there DP. :D

[Mustang]

Nice copy and past job there DP. :D


i dont think that he copied it straight from mine, there are a few cars on here such as the mclaren that werent on mine because they hadnt been confirmed at the time but guess they have now :D

[MrVette83]

I was reffering copy and paste from a different forum called GTplanet.net.

[DarkPhenix]

I was reffering copy and paste from a different forum called GTplanet.net.

It was not from GTPlanet :) The list of GTPlanet it's a copy too i know the original site.. ;)

[MrVette83]

ok ok, my appologies to both you and Mustang123. I was just reading on that site though and your thread looked word for word like what was on GTPlanet, right down to the color coding.

[DarkPhenix]

ok ok, my appologies to both you and Mustang123. I was just reading on that site though and your thread looked word for word like what was on GTPlanet, right down to the color coding.

that's ok ;)

[Mustang]

ok ok, my appologies to both you and Mustang123. I was just reading on that site though and your thread looked word for word like what was on GTPlanet, right down to the color coding.


well it might be copied straight of that site i dont know but i was just saying that he hadnt copied my thread that was in the misc section ;)

[F1_Master]

I've seen a full list of cars that are supposedly going into GT4, and they included Lamborghini. SWEET! Also, the list was confirmed by Pholony Digital/Sony officials.

[Mustang]

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2836&page=1 there are lambos on here, this is the old car lise that i posted ages ago :)

[F1_Master]

Yep. That's it except for the Koeniogsegg. Never heard of them ever being tried to be put in the game.

[SPN:DOC]

ahahah sweet Renault Alpine A110... :D :D im gonna love this game.. oh ye by the way in the US do u guys have something called the Prologue GT4.. apparently its a pre version Of GT4..

[DarkPhenix]

DarkPhenix do you know whats the tracks of gt4 ??

Track List

Here is a list of all of the tracks in GT4. Each track can be raced in forward and reverse direction.


* Midfield Raceway
* Autumn Ring
* Swiss Alps
* Tahiti Maze
* Tokyo R246

[sandwich]

That's one thing that I thought gran turismo 3 always lacked-

Availability of tracks. Maybe It's just because you can't do a free run on some of them, but it always seemed like those 5 tracks got so tired so quickly. Variety of cars is great, but several new tracks would be excellent.

[stratos]

Track List

Here is a list of all of the tracks in GT4. Each track can be raced in forward and reverse direction.


* Midfield Raceway
* Autumn Ring
* Swiss Alps
* Tahiti Maze
* Tokyo R246

Only 5 tracks on gt4 ?? :eek: :eek: .... are you sure thats the track list of gt4 ?? :confused: :confused:

[stratos]

Track List

Here is a list of all of the tracks in GT4. Each track can be raced in forward and reverse direction.


* Midfield Raceway
* Autumn Ring
* Swiss Alps
* Tahiti Maze
* Tokyo R246

Only 5 tracks on gt4 ?? :eek: :eek: .... are you sure thats the track list of gt4 or the track list of GTC ?? :confused: :confused:

[Mustang]

Only 5 tracks on gt4 ?? :eek: :eek: .... are you sure thats the track list of gt4 or the track list of GTC ?? :confused: :confused:


that is prob correct stratos, there were about 30 tracks on GT3 so ther have to be more on GT4

[The359]

Located in the middle of the car list above the word Nissan, written in white:


IF YOU ARE READING THIS MESSAGE, THIS LIST WAS COPIED AND PASTED WITHOUT MY PERMISSION -The359

Gee, I guess someone didn't bother to take out my little security measure? :rolleyes:

Also, the word ASTON MARTIN is misspelled, intentionally, hence how I found this stolen copy of my list through Google.

So, anyway:

Would a moderator or administrator on this forum be so kind as to remove the list in the first two posts of this thread? The user who posted it did not ask for my permission to copy it. Unfortunatly he also lied about where he got the list from, it is indeed from GTPlanet as well as my second copy on GranTurismoX.

If you wish, the posts can be replaced with links to my original lists on GTPlanet or GTX so that people can at least still read the list if they wish.

Thank you in advance.

[Mustang]

Located in the middle of the car list above the word Nissan, written in white:



Gee, I guess someone didn't bother to take out my little security measure? :rolleyes:

Also, the word ASTON MARTIN is misspelled, intentionally, hence how I found this stolen copy of my list through Google.

So, anyway:

Would a moderator or administrator on this forum be so kind as to remove the list in the first two posts of this thread? The user who posted it did not ask for my permission to copy it. Unfortunatly he also lied about where he got the list from, it is indeed from GTPlanet as well as my second copy on GranTurismoX.

If you wish, the posts can be replaced with links to my original lists on GTPlanet or GTX so that people can at least still read the list if they wish.

Thank you in advance.

HAHA what a ****ing retard Dp really is he got busted for copying 3 of the highest moderators posts onto another forum and got banned for that, as you will say it says abnned under his name :D:D

i am sure that matra or Egg nog will remove it for you but i really dont see the point this thread has been dead now for months and noone really looks at old threads tdo they

EDIT/ since UCP now has the swearing filter on i guess it is ok for me to use the words i did if not tellme and i wil remove them :)

[sandwich]

Unfortunatly .


Who cares? Go away.

[The359]

Me, the person who has spent lots of time trying to make an accurate list only to have it snatched by some punk kid. That's who cares.

Remind me to ask why you care when someone steals something that belongs to you.
:rolleyes:

[Coventrysucks]

Who cares? Go away.

Err. Its called copyright:
What is Copyright? (http://www.whatiscopyright.org/)

As the original author of the work, he is entitled to protect his work.
It is his right to request that work used without his permission is removed from this page.

Same as it is your right to act like an ass and tell him to "go away" when it is nothing to do with you! :rolleyes:

[sandwich]

don't pull that copyright crap, i know what it is.

But can you really copyright something that has been kicked around, added and subtracted from, and posted on several different websites?

I don't mean to be rude, but I find it difficult to believe that it's yours, when it's actually the makers' of Gt4. Not only that, but I'm sure lots of people have gathered lots of information to put into such a list, and there are several other versions. If he removed the white text, would it be that different from anybody else's? Probably not, as it is a list of features for a game, and will not change regardless of who makes it.

Honestly, do you really go out and search the internet to make sure no one has taken your precious list? I hope I never worry about people copying a list of cars out of a video game that I didn't even make.

Good luck to you anyways, you and your list.

[Mustang]

Did he actually make that whole list himself or did he use other sources to get it all and then out his copy right on later ?

EDIT/ what forum did you say it wa soff maybee we should check on there see if DP has been taking any more things :p

[Coventrysucks]

don't pull that copyright crap, i know what it is.

But can you really copyright something that has been kicked around, added and subtracted from, and posted on several different websites?

I don't mean to be rude, but I find it difficult to believe that it's yours, when it's actually the makers' of Gt4.

Obviously you don't know about that copyright crap.

If he wrote the list, even if it has been used, replicated or modified by other parties, then it is his copyright.

If a song is written and performed by one artist, and then covered by another, the copyright still belongs to the original writer, even if the words are still the same.

How did you work out that it belongs to the makers of GT4?
As far as I am aware Sony haven't released a full official list of the vehicles that will feature in the game.

As I understand it, this is a speculative list based on cars that have appeared in previous versions of Gran Turismo, cars that are known to have been tested/ measured/ recorded by the creators of the game, rumour and wishful thinking.

[85RX7]

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2836&page=1 there are lambos on here, this is the old car lise that i posted ages ago :)
whats up with the*** Mazda RX-7 76 *** they were released in 78......strange.

And i've seen a screenshot of the N13 NISSAN EXA (otherwise know as NX).

[The359]

There's a difference between taking public information (the cars in the game) and making his own list and taking someone else's list and copying it word for word, color for color, symbol for symbol.

One is legal. The other is not. It's that simple.

If he had made his own list from scratch, I would have no problem, plenty of other websites have done that and the information within the list is public information. But since he decided to just highlight, hit Copy, and then hit Paste, well then I'm entitled to be a bit peeved because the list is more then just a bunch of cars, it's also a chart of cars that are confirmed in the game, all the coding that into it, etc. All of which I did myself.

The original list that I built from scratch is only supposed to be located in two places where I personally can maintain and update it.

The GTX Forums: http://www.granturismox.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73
The GTPlanet Forums: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43081

Please note at the top it even says in nice big letters "Please don't copy this without asking me first"

And yes I do go searching for people who stole my list, because most of the time they either a) Try to pass it off as a real Sony/Polyphony list or b) Try to pass it off as something they themselves made without any credit to me.

Also that old list was actually created by a group of Brazilian GT fans who wanted a list of cars they WISHED were in the game. Due to a translation snafu, people thought it was an official list and passed it off as such. So everything on that 779 car list should be pretty much ignored.

[sandwich]

Obviously you don't know about that copyright crap.

If he wrote the list, even if it has been used, replicated or modified by other parties, then it is his copyright.

If a song is written and performed by one artist, and then covered by another, the copyright still belongs to the original writer, even if the words are still the same.

How did you work out that it belongs to the makers of GT4?
As far as I am aware Sony haven't released a full official list of the vehicles that will feature in the game.

As I understand it, this is a speculative list based on cars that have appeared in previous versions of Gran Turismo, cars that are known to have been tested/ measured/ recorded by the creators of the game, rumour and wishful thinking.

rreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeowr! Damn dude, chill out.

A speculative list, whose real author is not fully known. Yes, you've got him on the copy and paste subject, but I don't think you can copyright something that isn't really yours to begin with. Now, to copy the entire thing is indeed copyright infringement, I'll give you that, but the information contained in it isn't possible to copyright without knowing the original author and that the material was created by him without copying it from another text. If you can say for sure that said list was made up without taking information from anybody else's lists, pictures, information, or compilations, or that you had permission from every author of every text, I'll take back my statements, and you can frolick the interweb whining about copyright all day long.

also, if a musician copies a refrain from one song, a verse from another, a drum beat from a third, does that make it an original song, or a compilation of other, previously copyrighted works?

[The359]

I already stated that the information on the individual cars is public information, but the list as an entity as I made it is my property. And no the list was not TAKEN, I started my list from scratch, and it is constantly updated by me whenever a new car is sighted or new information is revealed. In fact if you click the link you'll notice that the list posted here is already severely out of date compared to the most recent versions on GTPlanet and GTX.

I am in no way claiming that the cars of Gran Turismo 4 are my property, I am merely claiming that the "GT4 Master Car List" as I posted it on GTPlanet and GTX are my property and that the user here stole it without asking me (which you can CLEARLY see I told people to ask me...).

And as stated before, if the user had taken the information on the list and made his own version in his own style, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

[Coventrysucks]

and you can frolick the interweb whining about copyright all day long.

:rolleyes:


also, if a musician copies a refrain from one song, a verse from another, a drum beat from a third, does that make it an original song, or a compilation of other, previously copyrighted works?

Yes, if no permission were sought from the original writers, that would be three seperate counts of copyright infringement.

There was a fairly highly publicised case in the UK where pop-slag Robbie Williams was sued for copyright infringement for using one line of someone elses song, even though the rest of the song was completely different.

So I guess you can get back to telling people to "go away" when the matter doesn't concern you.

[sandwich]

"go away".


I know, that was rude. However, I just don't see the point. If the359 wants to be a member of this Bored, then by all means I say we honor his request. But to lerk around the interweb removing information which neither benefits nor harms him seems like a waste of time. Yes, credit is certainly due, and it obviously isn't right to simply cop his list and use it against his permission, but I would rather see him become part of this board then to just remove it and leave.

[The359]

but I would rather see him become part of this board then to just remove it and leave.

I'd rather not see my stuff stolen, but...here we are.

[DiabloVT]

well... i think this is entirely gay and i personally give credit to The359 for the list. good work :)

as for complete track list, im waaaaay ahead of u people... ;)

June 11, 2004 - Tentative Track List

New York City
Fuji Speedway
Tsukuba Circuit
Grand Canyon; Grand Canyon North
Citta di Aria
Costa di Amalfi
Hong Kong
Nurburgring Nordschleife
Nur Snow
Akasaka
Las Vegas
Motegi
Paris rally
Paris tarmac
Louisberg
Nanzenji
San Marco
Yosemite
20R60R
Gymkhana 1-4
Test Course
Cote d'Azure (Monaco)
Special Stage Route 11
Swiss Alps
Tokyo R246
Complex String
Autumn Ring; Autumn Mini Ring
Pikes Peak Hill Climb
Rome Circuit Full Course; Rome Short Course; Rome Night
Seattle Circuit Full Course; Seattle Short Course
Super Speedway
Laguna Seca Raceway
Midfield Raceway
Apricot Hill Speedway
Red Rock Valley Speedway
Tahiti Road; Tahiti Dirt Route 3; Tahiti Maze
Smokey Mountain North; Smokey Mountain South
Green Forest Roadway
Trial Mountain Circuit
Deep Forest Raceway
Grand Valley Speedway; Grand Valley East Section
Special Stage Route 5
Clubman Route Stage 5
Grindelwald


this list is quoted from www.ign.com , on the page http://cars.ign.com/articles/522/522822p1.html and http://cars.ign.com/articles/522/522822p2.html by the IGN affiliate, IGN Cars
(THIS IS HOW U QUOTE PEOPLE!! DONT STEAL OTHER PEOPLES WORK :D )

[Mustang]

you sure that is all the tracks there dont look as many there as weon GT3 hope there is

[UK CARS]

In new york i will be able to crash into what ever i want :D

[whiteballz]

new york is a boring track to drive on... (i own prologue)...

anyway...

how sad do you have to be to whine about a LIST of cars supposedly in a FICTIONAL game that is not yet released? and to go over the web and hunt them down is just sad, how much work really went into that list? i probably put more effort into riding in a straight line*.


straight line* depending on the terain effort changes

[UK CARS]

new york is a boring track to drive on... (i own prologue)...

anyway...

how sad do you have to be to whine about a LIST of cars supposedly in a FICTIONAL game that is not yet released? and to go over the web and hunt them down is just sad, how much work really went into that list? i probably put more effort into riding in a straight line*.


straight line* depending on the terain effort changes

Maybee sony relaesed the cars on the net/ or some cars....
If they did reseach each car then your right, Sado'S

[DiabloVT]

i dont know about u whiteballz, but im awaiting this game more egarly than a scientoligst awaits the messiah. BUT alot of effort could have been saved by just going to cars.ign.com cuz theyve had a semi-full car list for months now...

and yes, that is the track car list, thats all the tracks :)

and new york is BLOODY ANNOYING AT TIMES!!!! that stupid goddamn EVO VII MR just doesnt want to turn around the corners on that track :mad:

[SIMPLETON]

When is this game supposed to come out. I might have to go out to Wal-Mart and pick me up a ps2 and this game. Too bad you cant drive the Autobhan. Then we could REALLY test the top speed of these cars

[Mustang]

When is this game supposed to come out. I might have to go out to Wal-Mart and pick me up a ps2 and this game. Too bad you cant drive the Autobhan. Then we could REALLY test the top speed of these cars


what do you mean then, we have the proper nurburgring on here, the straight on there is about 3 miles long (possible :p) on project gotham 2 they have that track and the enxo and CC get to 230 MPh and every other car reaches its top speed easilly so i think the same shuld happen on GT4

[whiteballz]

diablo i have been waiting for this game to come out since i heard development had started on it just after GT3 came out!!!

lol.... and i didnt find the evo hard to do the corse in, just follow the breaking and drive lines. (i turned them off, but i guess they were close enough to the ideal line)

[GEO-oNe]

cant wait also.... gonna have to errr "borrow" a friend's ps2 and buy this game

[Ferrari Tifosi]

I can't wait until this game is released, should be a good bit of fun. I'm glad to see a more diverse car list, but still wish it wasn't overrun with Japanese cars.

[DiabloVT]

the un-offical release date of GT4 is early november (here in Australia), not 100% sure about the states. and the pro-logic wheel thingo with 900 degrees of turning (yes thats 2 and a half turns!!!! :D ) is already released. but im gonna buy it with GT4.

i can not WAIT to scream around the 'Ring in a R34 GTR or the new M5... *drools on keyboard* itd be awesome to rip around in it in the VERY FIRST VW bug, the 1945 one.

but yes, that MR is good, but its a touch unforgiving for my tastes, gimme the NSX any day :D

[Quiggs]

VolksWagens and Audis on the 'Ring. Who needs to go outside??

[F1_Master]

Boy, if I joined GTP before here, I would have actually reported that to The359. Anyways, I have seen his list on GTP, and have given much credit on his work. The359 looked at pictures, news, and videos and what cars he saw, he put down.

Anyways, you can find me on GTP under McLaren F1GTR.

[GranTurismo4.tk]

I'm sorry but I can confirm that list has been taken directly off from GTPlanet.net's member The359's GT4 Master Car List.

I'm sUn on GTPlanet.

[GranTurismo4.tk]

It was not from GTPlanet :) The list of GTPlanet it's a copy too i know the original site.. ;)

The member who posted it on GTPlanet, posted it on various other websites his name as he goes by is The359. You cannot copy something he has created without permission.

Did you get permission from him?

[sandwich]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[The359]

I already told them. No one bothered to remove it.

[F1_Master]

Why is this thread still being revived?
I mean, seriously, Matra, can you take down the first post?

That, or have DP edit on

Credit goes to The359?

I mean, seriously, he took the list without his permission.

[NAZCA C2]

Why did they put Jeeps and Land/Range Rovers in GT4??? You can't make a jeep fast! Let me repeat that, you CAN'T make a jeep fast!

[The359]

You can make a Jeep fast offroad. And Jeep and Land Rover are still listed as unconfirmed.

[Quiggs]

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[Rockefella]

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[DiabloVT]

i want to do a dancing lock :(

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[F1_Master]

That's getting a little out-of-hand. :D

[lafave]

Does anyone know how to buy or win the Toyota Celica 1600GT RA22 in GT4?