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csl177
05-10-2011, 12:42 AM
Went to Road Atlanta for the Mitty last week. Unfortunately, the weekend didn't go as planned, which usually means put it on the trailer the way you brought it. More anon... it took quite a bit to get this video posted as I'm an old fart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSDWJASyE4U

On the flight home, we had to make an emergency landing in Tampa because an AC compressor failed and filled the cabin with smoke.
Quite a weekend. You can't make this stuff up. :(

henk4
05-10-2011, 01:30 AM
wow, that is pretty impressive, what speed were you at? 100 mph or thereabouts? And in a way lucky you had a parallel encounter with the wall, it could have been much worse.

Finally, in Europe they use the red flag (not black) to stop a session, isn't that what they do in the US too?

csl177
05-10-2011, 01:39 AM
EDIT: More like 75-80 mph. My fault, had three much faster 2.5 cars behind me and moved over as a measure of politeness... I won't be so accomodating ever again. As EFR and Wayne Baker (who was behind me) said after: just because you're new here, don't NOT drive your line. My times were 5 seconds slower than the 2.5 cars but very respectable, especially for a rookie. I wasn't personally black flagged, the field was because of cars being cleared from the track. Red flag is stop, black flag is return to box, yellow flag is local caution, double yellow is full course caution.

henk4
05-10-2011, 01:43 AM
Yes, around 90-100 mph. My fault, had three much faster 2.5 cars behind me and moved over as a measure of politeness... I won't be so accomodating ever again. As EFR and Wayne Baker (who was behind me) said to me after: just because you're new here, don't NOT drive your line. My times were 5 seconds slower than the 2.5 cars but very respectable, especially for a rookie. Red flag is stop, black flag is return to box, yellow flag is local caution, double yellow is full course caution.

OK, then check your subtitles in the video. Were you twice BLACK flagged, or was the session twice RED Flagged. ???

So what's the damage, It looks like this time it fortunate that the engine sits before the rear axle.

csl177
05-10-2011, 01:48 AM
I didn't post the earlier sessions. We had two black flags (not red... that would require something catastrophic) meaning everyone back to the pits. The video I posted showed when we were FINALLY gonna get a chance to put in a qualifying lap. I blew it on the run to a green flag. :o

Damage not awful... it's a freakin' racecar. I'm sore, and the car will be ready for Rennsport in October.

clutch-monkey
05-10-2011, 01:52 AM
OUCH.
what a crappy way to end your race :(
i had a very similar spin a few weeks back, but managed to merely clip the wing mirror on the concrete before going into the kitty litter..
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1595/p1010839x.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/p1010839x.jpg/)

csl177
05-10-2011, 01:55 AM
I should clarify, Pieter... when a either a black or "meatball" (black with red circle in the center) is waved directly at you it means pit IMMEDIATELY, you're spewing oil, driving like a dick, something the stewards want to discuss with YOU. For the field, a black flag is something serious on track, be cautious, do not pass, return to pit. Red is stop on the track right NOW.

csl177
05-10-2011, 02:01 AM
OUCH.
what a crappy way to end your race :(
i had a very similar spin a few weeks back, but managed to merely clip the wing mirror on the concrete before going into the kitty litter..


I'd be happy to exchange a scuffed mirror for a cracked rib and $15K worth of fix-em-up. :rolleyes:

Hey, I'm lucky to have walked away, there were 4 cars that could've made contact had I popped back on track just a couple of seconds sooner. Like I said, that mistake won't happen again. ;)

henk4
05-10-2011, 02:26 AM
I didn't post the earlier sessions. We had two black flags (not red... that would require something catastrophic) meaning everyone back to the pits. The video I posted showed when we were FINALLY gonna get a chance to put in a qualifying lap. I blew it on the run to a green flag. :o

Damage not awful... it's a freakin' racecar. I'm sore, and the car will be ready for Rennsport in October.

So it is slightly different from the way things are being done here, as a black flag is shown to an indivual car together with a number to specifiy which car is meant, and this means that this particular car is to return to the stands immediately and will most likely be disqualified.

A black flag with a meatball indeed means that a car has to return to the sand and carry out some repairs or whatever is needed.

When a red flag is shown it is shown to everybody, meaning that the session is over and all cars have to return to the stands. We had several red flag situations in Spa last weekend, and indeed because something serious had happened, which made further racing dangerous.

clutch-monkey
05-10-2011, 04:49 AM
I'd be happy to exchange a scuffed mirror for a cracked rib and $15K worth of fix-em-up. :rolleyes:

i said the same thing when i pulled into the pits, but you're lucky to come away with unbroken ribs!

Dino Scuderia
05-10-2011, 05:00 AM
I didn't go to the Mitty this year, one of the few I've missed.

Too bad about your off.

Cobrafan427
05-10-2011, 08:30 PM
I loved the little ticker line going across the bottom explaining what was going on, it really gives insight to those who've never raced before or crashed for that matter. Too bad about the car, it doesn't look too bad on the outside but whatever suspension piece(s) you broke are the ones that'll run up the bill. And I feel you on that bruise, i play hockey and i've been hit by an 80 mph slap shot, it's not fun

johnnynumfiv
05-11-2011, 04:32 AM
Glad you're ok! Thats a nice looking 914 too, most of them look pretty boring. Are those steel flares on your car? I just fixed a customers car that had a similar hit from the downhill at Lime Rock. It didn't take that hard of a shot because it hit a tire wall/rubber matt. Concrete doesn't move to much. :(

NSXType-R
05-11-2011, 08:24 AM
Darn, that sucks.

Least you're okay.

csl177
05-11-2011, 09:34 AM
Bruised arm is nothing, that's where it hit the door... but my left ribcage is still sore. A sneeze the other day dropped me to my knees. :eek:

Yeah, Road Atlanta has those special "extra firm" safety walls. :rolleyes: The car is already completely torn down for restoration to it's historic 1971 configuration, it's a real GT with steel flares. We got a pair for the left side, the trick will be installing them as original: spot-welded, then seams brazed. Control arm got bent 2", punched the halfshaft through the gearbox, etc. Glad we had swapped out the $$$ Hewland to avoid a weight penalty! The original gearbox (stamped #58!) is sitting at the shop and will be used in the resto. Lucky there was no damage to the original balsa-reinforced trunk lids or steel door.

Here's what the car looked like in 1971:

Kitdy
05-11-2011, 10:58 AM
csl, I hope both you and the car heal soon!

Was that your first big smash up?

johnnynumfiv
05-11-2011, 03:40 PM
My props to you for having the stones to race a real GT.

csl177
05-12-2011, 09:48 PM
csl, I hope both you and the car heal soon!
Was that your first big smash up?
Thanks Cameron... yes, first racing crash. Glad it's out of the way now, repairs underway. ;)

My props to you for having the stones to race a real GT.
There are quite a few that are, both in the US and in Europe... no more crazy than other historic cars used as they were meant to be. :)
This is nothing. The 356 Abarth GTL an associate runs is worth something like $1.5 million. Think of the guys running $25M 250GTOs! :eek:

IndianDrives
06-01-2011, 10:34 PM
Being a good driver doesnít mean that you drive well, but it is all about hell lot of things which helps you to drive well. You just canít simply ignore that you are a good driver while you donít even care what your car is going through.

henk4
06-01-2011, 11:19 PM
Being a good driver doesnít mean that you drive well, but it is all about hell lot of things which helps you to drive well. You just canít simply ignore that you are a good driver while you donít even care what your car is going through.

can you explain what your point is here, do you think CSL does not care about his cars?