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dudi11
04-25-2012, 01:03 AM
Hello Ultimatecarpage forum members!
My name is Dave, 20 years old. As I think that this website is one of the most updated with actual news and concepts, but also contains some rare historic pieces, I decided to include your opinions in my university project. It would be a great help, and would be nice to read opinions of the car experts.
I am doing a kind of "Timeline" of the Audi brand, where I have to include most ground-breaking or revolutionary Audi-s from history, but also some of present cars of the brand representing the way how the brand will continue design its cars for the future.
As the title says, I would like you to mention kind of "milestones" of Audi, from the times of Auto Union till today. Please mention as much cars as you can, with just one sentence about why was it/is it so ground-breaking from your point of view.
Then I have to create a video, catalogue and poster, where the cars will be present. I will include every car you mention, and share the poster/video in about 10 days, because that is the deadline for the project.
Thanks for every single post in advance,
Dave (
[email protected])
P.S. If I wrote something wrong, I apologize for my English.
250gto boy
04-25-2012, 03:13 AM
Well that's a tough starting point. How about the R8 Le Mans car because it really set Audi up for the world stage and it was the beginning of their domination in endurance racing.
Duell
04-25-2012, 04:40 AM
The one that stands out for me is definitly the Audi Avus Quattro (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8504) with its amazing 6.0 W12 engine.
That still lives on in the Bugatti Veyron.
NSXType-R
04-25-2012, 04:58 AM
The one that stands out for me is definitly the Audi Avus Quattro (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8504) with its amazing 6.0 W12 engine.
That still lives on in the Bugatti Veyron.
Wow, you definitely see the resemblance in the front fascia.
I thought the only real relative before that was the VW Nardo concept.
Audi Quattro. Revolutionary with it's 4x4 system.
Audi RS2. Sparked the whole Power-stationwagon marked.
acfsambo
04-25-2012, 05:21 AM
Can we go back as far as the Auto Union cars? If so, those racing cars were unbelievable.
The NSU Spider - The first car with an Rotary Engine
drakkie
04-25-2012, 08:14 AM
The NSU Ro80 was not only good looking but also a revolution in it's days, it definately should be included. Offcourse don't forget the Ur-Quattro too!
demonrunning07
04-25-2012, 10:53 AM
Audi Quattro.
This is really important. IMO, this is their greatest contribution to automotive history. Audi are almost single-handedly responsible for the for the proliferation of AWD, first in rallying and then production cars.
Too Fast to Race, a documentary on Group B rally car racing, discusses how the Audi Quattro revolutionized the world of Rallying:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvUUQnfYNI
They were also cornerstone to the proliferation of diesel engines, in both street cars and motorsport. I believe that 2006 the R10 TDi was the first diesel to have extraordinary success in any for of motorsport outside of the Dakar Rally.
Introducing TDi does start to blur the lines between Audi and VW, which is probably something that will complicate your argument and make for a better discussion.
Cobrafan427
04-25-2012, 11:02 AM
Auto Union Types C and D plus the Streamliner and the Audi Quattro S1. You're gonna have to look up why they're important yourself for fear that i'm doing your project for you
Dino Scuderia
04-25-2012, 11:21 AM
Audi's use and fad starter of LED lights draped around light bezels began one of the most pretentious and annoying trends on the road.
If you want to add something of negative significance. :D
092326001
04-25-2012, 07:22 PM
Audi's use and fad starter of LED lights draped around light bezels began one of the most pretentious and annoying trends on the road.
If you want to add something of negative significance. :D
Don't forget hideous huge grills on modern cars.
dudi11
04-26-2012, 02:03 AM
Thank you very much to all of you so far, I will contact some of you, whose mentions I am going to include in the project.
Duell
04-27-2012, 09:39 AM
Just a pure beauty:
1939 DKW F8 Meisterklasse Cabriolet
drakkie
04-27-2012, 11:45 AM
Audi F103 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
faksta
04-27-2012, 12:53 PM
What about first generation Audi A8 and its aluminium ASF structure?
The Audi A2 - a pioneer well ahead of its time.
dudi11
05-02-2012, 11:41 AM
Well that's a tough starting point. How about the R8 Le Mans car because it really set Audi up for the world stage and it was the beginning of their domination in endurance racing.
Thanks! Very good ones.
The one that stands out for me is definitly the Audi Avus Quattro (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8504) with its amazing 6.0 W12 engine.
That still lives on in the Bugatti Veyron.
Thanks much! Interesting one. I can't decide if I should include it, as it was left in concept stage.
Audi Quattro. Revolutionary with it's 4x4 system.
Audi RS2. Sparked the whole Power-stationwagon marked.
Thank you! Could you explain a little bit more why is the RS2 a "milestone" in your opinion?
The NSU Spider - The first car with an Rotary Engine
Thanks! Simply stunning.
The NSU Ro80 was not only good looking but also a revolution in it's days, it definately should be included. Offcourse don't forget the Ur-Quattro too!
Thanks. Good examples.
Auto Union Types C and D plus the Streamliner and the Audi Quattro S1. You're gonna have to look up why they're important yourself for fear that i'm doing your project for you
Thanks very much. Please explain in just a single sentence why are the cars you mentioned considered to be milestones. If you don't mind, of course.
Just a pure beauty:
1939 DKW F8 Meisterklasse Cabriolet
Very beautiful one. But is it a milestone at all? Please if you know more cars of this era, that could be milestones of the car manufacturer, feel free to post them.
Audi F103 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_F103)
Thanks, but please include a single sentence, why you consider it to be a "milestone". Thanks again in advance.
What about first generation Audi A8 and its aluminium ASF structure?
Thanks. I must look up what is the ASF though ))).
The Audi A2 - a pioneer well ahead of its time.
Thanks many times to you, Brix. Please include a few words about why was it such a pioneer.
The RS2, as i wrote earlier, is the first Stationwagon, with power.
Build by Audi, perfected by Porsche says it all. Now both BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar all try to replicate that feeling the RS2 had. Kinda like all small cars today try to replicate the Golf and 205 Gti feeling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_RS_2_Avant
The A2 because it was the first car to go for new technologies in the small car category and therefor a forgotten pioneer (the term pioneer can be discussed if current, if it's forgotten ;) ) in the green car movement, with being very fuel efficient and low polluting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_A2
But Dudi11, this is the things you shouldn't investigate yourself ;).
RacingManiac
05-02-2012, 01:50 PM
ASF = Aluminum Space Frame
Cobrafan427
05-02-2012, 08:36 PM
Type C and D - Mid-engine V16 F1 cars from the '30's, stopped Mercedes dominance
Streamliner - 1937 attempted land speed record car, 248 mph top speed
Quattro S1 - Most powerful rally car ever produced, end of Group B, 650 hp
pimento
05-02-2012, 08:38 PM
Quattro S1 - Most powerful rally car ever produced, end of Group B, 650 hp
Apparently before Group B was canned they had an engine that was pushing 1000bhp, but when they put it in the car, it had a tendency to just go straight in corners.
drakkie
05-03-2012, 11:11 AM
Thanks, but please include a single sentence, why you consider it to be a "milestone". Thanks again in advance.
Because it was the first production car badged as Audi after WW2 offcourse! (referring to the F103).
Cobrafan427
05-03-2012, 12:51 PM
Apparently before Group B was canned they had an engine that was pushing 1000bhp, but when they put it in the car, it had a tendency to just go straight in corners.
That would've totally worked at Pikes Peak :D
pimento
05-03-2012, 04:43 PM
That would've totally worked at Pikes Peak :D
With all the wings they put on the pike's peak car it'd've turned into a glider after sailing over the edge... :p
Matra et Alpine
05-04-2012, 03:22 AM
The rally audis on loose barely steered with "only" 600bhp.
Drivers have to create a pendulum effect to get car to be rotating as it comes ot the apex of a corner.
A skill few perfected and one I failed miserably :)
You woudl use the same method with 1000hp JUST it now happens faster and needing better precision on strting the pendulum 200 yards back !!!!!
dudi11
05-16-2012, 09:37 AM
Hello!
I am back on-topic to thank all of you, who posted your opinions, comments and examples of Audi milestones. It was really a great help and I am amazed how much posts got in there. You are great!
Now it is up to me to show you the actual "Audi Milestones" artwork that I created. I did some further research about the cars you mentioned, and finalised a list of 12 cars.
The graphical artwork, process of creating, research and list of vehicles is located on my Audi blog here:
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/)
For those who are lazy to overclick themselves :):
Post n.1: Introduction
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/first-post-introduction/)
Post n.2: Inspiration
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/second-post-inspiration-and-sketching/)
Post n.3: Choosing the right stuff
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/thirt-post-choosing-the-right-stuff/)
Post n.4: Research (including the forum)
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/fourth-post-research/)
Post n.5: Finalizing
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/fifth-post-finalizing/)
Post n.6: Final Artwork
The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/final-design-5/)
Thanks again, I will keep you updated.
Dave
A mention of the actual forum with it's name would be nice :).
A little commercial so the hits on the site would be great.
But i'm glad you took 2 of my suggestions, (well almost).
faksta
05-17-2012, 12:43 AM
Have to say, that is a great idea with a roof design representing Audi timeline - looks really interesting. Very nice job! :)
Also, I think you may find more interesting subjects on this forum if you stick to it ;)
hello, friends i am new in this forum. I get great information from this forum and decided the part in this forum ..
AUDI is known as one of the best reputed brand all over the world. I am sure all the AUDI car will rock and grab good market share and good will for AUDI .....
faksta
05-17-2012, 01:27 AM
Welcome, Simi! Feel like home :)
dudi11
05-17-2012, 02:02 AM
UPDATE:
The contest is launched, so I would like to ask you to give like button to the "Audi Timeline Project" by clicking on the "LIKE!" at the bottomof the page.
LINK The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/final-design-5/)
http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/A1_SB_Roof_Front2-424x300.jpg
LINK The Audi Design Performances (http://www.theaudidesignperformances.com/all-designs/afad-bratislava/final-design-5//)
Thanks very much for support.
faksta
05-17-2012, 04:01 AM
I voted you, but just because I really like it the most :) Usually I don't take part in vote-me-please. Should you take first place, you would be a worthy winner, congratulations!
Only suggestion - maybe you should have included a close-up of the roof graphics? It is hard to see there are Audi milestones there - some cars, but which ones?
dudi11
05-19-2012, 08:08 AM
I voted you, but just because I really like it the most :) Usually I don't take part in vote-me-please. Should you take first place, you would be a worthy winner, congratulations!
Only suggestion - maybe you should have included a close-up of the roof graphics? It is hard to see there are Audi milestones there - some cars, but which ones?
Thank you very much for your words, I really appreciate it. It is true that there is not a clear picture, but it is because the pictures weren´t chosen by me, it was done by the webmaster there though.
dudi11
05-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Hello Ultimatecarpage community!
Here is another update, a presentation video for the "Audi Milestones" project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvUUQnfYNI
I wanted to make it less boring lol... Hope you will like it. If you will have time, please click the "Thumbs up!" button in the link at the video description, voting ends at 31th of May. Thanks :)
Ferrer
05-26-2012, 03:40 PM
This thread is so... well... excellent.
Very good Video, but as an massive Sportscarfan, i must point out a massive flaw in it.
The car you chosen as a silhouette looks the be the R8 Race Car, when in the video you start with the R10 picture, but the biggest mistake is choosing the 2009 R15 footage, the only Audi Le Mans car, which haven't won at Le Mans (bear in mind that the R15 and R15+ was two different cars), and having footage of Peugeot at the top spot at Le Mans, isn't going to please Audi that much either :)
dudi11
05-27-2012, 04:22 AM
Very good Video, but as an massive Sportscarfan, i must point out a massive flaw in it.
The car you chosen as a silhouette looks the be the R8 Race Car, when in the video you start with the R10 picture, but the biggest mistake is choosing the 2009 R15 footage, the only Audi Le Mans car, which haven't won at Le Mans (bear in mind that the R15 and R15+ was two different cars), and having footage of Peugeot at the top spot at Le Mans, isn't going to please Audi that much either :)
I know it too LOL... I was hoping that somebody will notice it from you, experts :) - the silhouette is the R8 from 2000/2001, which started a row of Audi winning series back then. The 2006's Le Mans cars was also an option, because of the first win with diesel engine.
About the video, I have chosen that because that was the only footage that I could find in High Definition, and the only I could get permission to use it. So it is for illustration purposes, normal people won't notice it hopefully... But I enjoyed your comment :).
zabelta
06-06-2012, 07:53 AM
Good luck with Audi milestone project.
EDIT:
"I would like to advertise Audi products, can I get in touch with the administrator"?
Yes, you can, but for the time being we have removed your spam link.
dudi11
06-09-2012, 04:35 AM
Hello Ultimatecarpage visitors!
The results of the Audi Design Performances will be revealed in 2 days, so 11th of June 2012.
Now I work via my school at design department of Audi, on a new futuristic concept for the brand, which will be publicly revealed during the October 2012 on an exhibition in Munich, Germany. I will keep you updated.
David Toth
Nice David!
I wish you the best :)
David_Hussey
06-22-2012, 05:22 AM
Nice post and nice info on this thread.
Post more video references.