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escort mexico
07-02-2004, 01:48 AM
What is your favourite classic car?

Anything from the 50's to the 70's

my personal favourite would have to be the ford GT40 or the lancia stratos

R34GTR
07-02-2004, 01:56 AM
Ferrari 275 GT/B and the Aston Martin DB4 gt zagato
got to love those 2 :D

drakkie
07-02-2004, 01:58 AM
The citroen DS, it was so ahead of its time!! :eek:

Matra et Alpine
07-02-2004, 02:00 AM
my record is STILL stuck :) .......

Matra Bagheera 'S' - classic French lines and idiosyncracies
Alpine A110 GrpIV - THE ultimate 70s rally car

Bravawatch
07-02-2004, 03:08 AM
Maserati 5000GT by Allemano. Wouldn't say no to a 365GTS4 either. A Lambo 400GT 2+2, 250 Lusso, DB6 Short Chassis Volante, etc, etc.

And if we're talking saloon cars there's the Quattroporte 1, the 300SEL 6.3, the 450SEL 6.9, the 3.3Li. Oh, there's so much out there. Forgot, the S2/SCII Flying Spur by H.J. Mulliner.

Regards,

Brava

EvilPaladin
07-02-2004, 05:57 AM
If it has to be after the 50's, the Ferrari 330 P4.

johnnynumfiv
07-02-2004, 07:05 AM
1967 SS chevelle

henk4
07-02-2004, 07:32 AM
Maserati 5000GT by Allemano. Wouldn't say no to a 365GTS4 either. A Lambo 400GT 2+2, 250 Lusso, DB6 Short Chassis Volante, etc, etc.

And if we're talking saloon cars there's the Quattroporte 1, the 300SEL 6.3, the 450SEL 6.9, the 3.3Li. Oh, there's so much out there. Forgot, the S2/SCII Flying Spur by H.J. Mulliner.

Regards,

Brava

Very nice choice, add the Miura, and the Mexico. For practical purposes the DS and for fun the Alpine A110. For a parking place the Downton Cooper S

Ferrari Tifosi
07-02-2004, 12:32 PM
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO or a Triumph TR5, I love 'em.

Bravawatch
07-02-2004, 01:37 PM
A chacun son gôut, all due respect, etc. I'm a heretic. I'm in a very small minority.

Forgive me Father for I'm going to sin. I dislike the Lamborghini Miura. There, I said it, that was my sin. I feel so much better now, Father.
The best shot of a Miura in cinematic history is when Beckerman enters a tunnel, parks it against a bulldozer and never comes out again in the Italian Job. I love that scene. Hate the scene where Croker's Aston Martin DB4 Convertible is helped over the edge of the ravine. Really hate that.

Love the Mexico, the Sebring, the Mistral, the 3500GT, the Ghibli. Basically I love almost anything Maserati.
For those practical purposes I'll trade your DS for its contemporary, a Lancia Aurelia four door pillarless saloon, or an Alfa Romeo 2600 Berlina.

SCWP1
07-02-2004, 02:40 PM
I don't have any one favorite, but must say that many of my favorite cars predate the 50's. There many people who believe that the quality and workmanship of the Grand Classics from the 20's and 30's was NEVER again achieved after WWII.

Here are just a few cars from the 20's and 30's which are on my list.

Who can ID them all ?

Best regards,

Steven

henk4
07-02-2004, 03:14 PM
Who can ID them all ?

Best regards,

Steven

A Duesenberg SJ, A Talbot Figoni and Falaschi, Bugatti 57 Atlantic and the Mercedes 500K SpezialRoadster

henk4
07-02-2004, 03:23 PM
A chacun son gôut, all due respect, etc. I'm a heretic. I'm in a very small minority.

Forgive me Father for I'm going to sin. I dislike the Lamborghini Miura. There, I said it, that was my sin. I feel so much better now, Father.

As you say, everybody is entitled to his own taste (gout is spelled with the accent on the "u" rather than the "o"). The Miura for me is first of all the rolling chassis, which as you may remember was presented first and then all carossiers started to compete for making the body. I found it such an amazing piece of work so much ahead of its time (the 365BB came 8 years later) that the car will always stand out as an icon.

Italian four door six cylinder limousines somehow never made it on my list. Was it you who mentioned the Alfa Sei or even the Rio? Especially the latter falls under the same quality category as the Arna, which says it all.

Bravawatch
07-02-2004, 04:06 PM
Yep, twas me, I admit it. I also wish to apologise for my mistake with the accent circonflexe. After I clicked on 'submit' I was too lazy to edit. ;)

The Rio and the Arna are two very different beasts indeed with totally different pedigrees. And let's face it. Build quality, especially Italian build quality, during the 60s and 70s was shoite. Didn't stop them making interesting cars though. Of course there were a few clangers, the ill-fated Arna one of them but in case of the Rio there wasn't anything intrinsically wrong with the car. It had the same mechanicals as the Alfetta and the GTV. The Alfa Sei, sigh. Another car out of step with its time. Again build quality, build quality, and build quality. It did give us the glorious Alfa V6 as we know it today. At first with a set up of six small Webers. Enough to give any mechanic screaming nightmares followed by post-traumatic stress disorder.

De gustibus non est disputandum. :)

Finally I'd like to mention one other car for this thread as it precedes the Miura and the Dino with its mid-engined configuration. The ATS 2500GT. A bad case of what might have been.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/628-1.jpg

Regards,

Brava

PS for Mr. Walker, I told you it was "Spezial" but would you listen? No, sirree. :) :)

henk4
07-02-2004, 04:40 PM
Finally I'd like to mention one other car for this thread as it precedes the Miura and the Dino with its mid-engined configuration. The ATS 2500GT. A bad case of what might have been.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/628-1.jpg

Regards,

Brava

PS for Mr. Walker, I told you it was "Spezial" but would you listen? No, sirree. :) :)

Of course there were more mid engined cars before the Miura, but as far as I can remember it was the first transverse V12. I am not sure but where the Ferrari break away guys from ATS also not somehow involved in the chassis design of the Miura?

(just remembered the Fiat 850 Coupe as a future classic, especially in Abarth 2000OT shape)

Bravawatch
07-02-2004, 05:02 PM
I am not sure but where the Ferrari break away guys from ATS also not somehow involved in the chassis design of the Miura?

I'm not sure about the Miura, I'd have to look that up. What is sure is that ATS came about after the mysterious bust up at Ferrari that saw some key people leave the company. They included the man behind the 250GTO, Giotto Bizzarrini, and engine man Carlo Chiti. They founded ATS and designed the car above. The company folded after an ill-fated F1 adventure. Bizzarrini later went on to design the 5300 Stradale under his own name powered by some American Iron.

Regards,

Brava

henk4
07-02-2004, 05:57 PM
I'm not sure about the Miura, I'd have to look that up. What is sure is that ATS came about after the mysterious bust up at Ferrari that saw some key people leave the company. They included the man behind the 250GTO, Giotto Bizzarrini, and engine man Carlo Chiti. They founded ATS and designed the car above. The company folded after an ill-fated F1 adventure. Bizzarrini later went on to design the 5300 Stradale under his own name powered by some American Iron.

Regards,

Brava

I kept on thinking after my post and I actually believe Bizzarrini was involved in the design of the V12. The ATS F-1 car has recently made some appearences in historic races and there used to be (or still is) one in the Donnington collection.

Karrmann
07-02-2004, 06:42 PM
easy, the 1970 Plymouth roadrunner
beep beep!!!

lfb666
07-03-2004, 07:02 PM
Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantic and Citroen Traction Avant

Bravawatch
07-04-2004, 03:51 AM
Bugatti Type 57SC Atlantic and Citroen Traction Avant

Lovely and interesting choices but almost totally beside the remit of the thread. :)

The Bugatti dates from 1936 and the Traction Avant was introduced in 1934. The DS however, does qualify.

Regards,

Brava

aNOBLEman
07-05-2004, 06:50 AM
One of my favorite classic cars would have to be the Ferrari 250 GTO. It has great looks and a great V12 engine.

phase III
07-07-2004, 01:23 AM
my name says it all the phase III is the mother of performance.

McReis
09-21-2004, 08:21 AM
Henk4 knows the Abarth 2000 OT! That's something rare! Thought nobody else knew that car!!! It is awesome! I heard they made only 5 of them, but don't know much more about the project...

I own the very original 67 Fiat 850 Coupe, so it's obvious I had to love the 2000 OT. Do you have any pictures of it??

McLareN
09-24-2004, 09:20 AM
I like very much the Ford Gt40 MK IV

McLareN
09-24-2004, 12:12 PM
I also like the Lola T-70 MK III Sbarro Special, the Mercedes-Benz 300 SRL and the Alfa-Romeo Tipo 33-2 Stradale.

taz_rocks_miami
09-24-2004, 01:44 PM
THE Ferrari 250 GTO and the Shelby Cobra.

jcp123
09-24-2004, 11:00 PM
'58 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special.

But right now the '49-'51 Merc's givin' it a run for its money.

henk4
09-24-2004, 11:09 PM
But right now the '49-'51 Merc's givin' it a run for its money.

Just wondering whether that's a Mercury or a Mercedes?

jcp123
09-24-2004, 11:23 PM
Just wondering whether that's a Mercury or a Mercedes?

Sorry...Mercury

but now that i think about it...i need to study up more on my classic mercedes'...they made some stunning cars.

henk4
09-24-2004, 11:27 PM
Sorry...Mercury

but now that i think about it...i need to study up more on my classic mercedes'...they made some stunning cars.

beware of the swingaxles :)

jcp123
09-25-2004, 12:01 AM
yeah...im used to boards more oriented towards american and japanese cars, so it kinda never entered my mind. i'll try + pay some attention to that.

ERBEE
09-26-2004, 09:00 AM
Lancia Flaminia Supersport Zagato
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Stradale
Aston Martin DB4 GT zagato

henk4
09-26-2004, 07:22 PM
Lancia Flaminia Supersport Zagato
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Stradale
Aston Martin DB4 GT zagato


Welcome to UCP, choice is much appreciated.

Hispano Swissa
09-27-2004, 05:19 AM
I don't have an all time favourite of those decades, but right now the NSU Ro80 comes to mind.
The Citroën DS21, the Plymouth Barracuda, the Austin-Healey, and the MkI Ford Escort also bring back fond memories of the Trente Glorieuses.

RS6
10-03-2004, 12:49 PM
Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing, Jaguar E-Type, Lamborghini Miura, Citroen DS (Convertable), Landrover, Pretty much everything with a Rover V8, Alfa Romeo Tipo 33-2 Stradale and any Bugatti.

giraldi
11-08-2004, 12:24 PM
Chevrolet 1957 coupe

jcp123
11-08-2004, 04:53 PM
Chevrolet 1957 coupe

I saw one of those today. Not normally a fan of '57 Chevys but man that one was gorgeous. Black, continental kit, had glasspacks. Wow. I almost shot a load. :D

charged
11-09-2004, 03:39 AM
Ive got 2 not really classic on a world wide sense but classic in Australia.
The First is a Bolwell Nagari coupe or convertible,a sports car produced in the 70s from donor parts,engine fro 186cu i6 to 351 v8 remind me of a Ferrari gto a little bit.
The second is a RT e49 Charger ,engine was 265cu/inch i6 with triple webers,bigger duration camshaft and other go faster bits,was the fastest accelerating production 6cyl in its day.

BMW325
11-09-2004, 04:49 PM
E-Type 3.8

Matt
11-09-2004, 09:20 PM
BMW 2002 Turbo with M striping and the backwards obrut :)

jcp123
11-09-2004, 09:22 PM
BMW 2002 Turbo with M striping and the backwards obrut :)

FUN to drive (we had an auto-xer 2002 back in high school, tons of fun to drive), not sure how anyone likes that styling though...

dydzi
11-10-2004, 10:16 AM
ac cobra daytona coupe
from older ones: bugatti 56 SC

henk4
11-10-2004, 07:49 PM
ac cobra daytona coupe
from older ones: bugatti 56 SC


57?? :)

HoldenHQ
11-10-2004, 10:00 PM
1971 Holden HQ Monaro 350 Chev ;)

dydzi
11-11-2004, 05:55 AM
57?? :)

oh yeah ive made a mistake :p

McReis
11-11-2004, 06:08 AM
Lancia Stratos Gr.IV
Alfa Romeo Tipo 33 Stradale
BMW CSL Batmobile
Escort RS MkI (BDA engined)
Fiat 850 coupe
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA Junior
Alpine A110 1800 Gr.IV


Spot the one that doesn't match with the topic! :D:D:D

henk4
11-11-2004, 06:12 AM
the 1300 GTA should of course be the 1600 GTA :D

McReis
11-11-2004, 06:16 AM
the 1300 GTA should of course be the 1600 GTA :D


No because the 1300 was the one wich raced with the flaired arches! You're almost there! :D

henk4
11-11-2004, 06:18 AM
No because the 1300 was the one wich raced with the flaired arches! :D

2000 GTAM :D

McReis
11-11-2004, 07:48 AM
2000 GTAM :D


That had flaired arches, in fact. An was almost as beautiful.

It's so rewarding talking with someone about cars that usually people don't have a clue what they are...:D

henk4
11-11-2004, 08:28 PM
It's so rewarding talking with someone about cars that usually people don't have a clue what they are...:D


I am sure if the CEO wouldn't have to think about the majority of the (income generating) visitors he would dealing only with such cars. :D

McReis
11-12-2004, 03:36 AM
I am sure if the CEO wouldn't have to think about the majority of the (income generating) visitors he would dealing only with such cars. :D

That would be awesome: AlternativeCarPage.com ;)

Let alone new muscle cars, rice cars, Aussie cars, Audi TT's etc.. :D:D:D

henk4
11-12-2004, 04:11 AM
That would be awesome: AlternativeCarPage.com ;)

Let alone new muscle cars, rice cars, Aussie cars, Audi TT's etc.. :D:D:D
Yeah, can you identify this one for me?

McReis
11-12-2004, 04:13 AM
Yeah, can you identify this one for me?


Simca-Abarth 1000 or 1300. Am I right?

henk4
11-12-2004, 04:18 AM
Simca-Abarth 1000 or 1300. Am I right?

This was not a quiz, I don;t know what it is exactly, you may be right, but it might also be another tipo.

McReis
11-12-2004, 04:47 AM
This was not a quiz, I don;t know what it is exactly, you may be right, but it might also be another tipo.


Thought you were testing me. :D
I'm almost certain, but I'm trying to make sure.

McReis
11-12-2004, 05:17 AM
Simca-Abarth 1000 or 1300. Am I right?


63' Fiat Abarth 1000 bialbero GT

Wasn't easy thought! Few time left to work! :D:D:D

henk4
11-12-2004, 05:39 AM
63' Fiat Abarth 1000 bialbero GT

Wasn't easy thought! Few time left to work! :D:D:D


Great, thanks, I am currently so bored that I am renaming all my pics that I originally took (slides or negs) and scanned last year, but forgot to rename them, there are many more that I have to verfiy, with the programmes of the events, giving the starting numbers but I don't have them with me right now.

and yes this one looked a lot like the Simca on UCP but the headlights and the indicators are different.

McReis
11-12-2004, 05:43 AM
Great, thanks, I am currently so bored that I am renaming all my pics that I originally took (slides or negs) and scanned last year, but forgot to rename them, there are many more that I have to verfiy, with the programmes of the events, giving the starting numbers but I don't have them with me right now.

and yes this one looked a lot like the Simca on UCP but the headlights and the indicators are different.


Nice task that. If you need any more investigation (what I don't think is probably) be free to ask. That amuses me! :)

ZeTurbo
11-12-2004, 01:18 PM
73 carrera RS

Mustang
11-13-2004, 04:38 AM
i mean sure the old carreras, ford gt, mustangs are nice but ive always had a thing for the mk2 escort :)

Matt
11-13-2004, 06:57 AM
FUN to drive (we had an auto-xer 2002 back in high school, tons of fun to drive), not sure how anyone likes that styling though...


You've got to be kidding me. I love the styling of the 2002.

ZeTurbo
11-13-2004, 03:35 PM
me too i love the 2002, the question should be... who can not like the style of the 2002?

Matra et Alpine
11-13-2004, 04:10 PM
i mean sure the old carreras, ford gt, mustangs are nice but ive always had a thing for the mk2 escort :)
Even more than the Mk1 with forest arches ?????

Mustang
11-13-2004, 04:17 PM
Even more than the Mk1 with forest arches ?????


ARRRR be silent you cant make me choose like that :p

How about this for a Mk1 this was at weeton last time i went very very nice looks fantastic and sounds amazing

http://www.hmmc.co.uk/Photos/New%20Brighton%202003/Period%20piece%20Mk1%20Escort.jpg

but yess for me the good ol' mk2 still wins

http://www.britishrally.com/photocomp2/Competition_9_-_October_2004//44.jpg

http://www.britishrally.com/photocomp2/Competition_9_-_October_2004//24.jpg

Sorry for uploading the pica i cant be bothered saving them and then posting them as attachments they arent that big anyway :o

Matra et Alpine
11-13-2004, 04:25 PM
ARRRR be silent you cant make me choose like that :p

New it woudl be hard - great pics.

It's jsut the Mk2 forest arches look like an after-tought where at least on the Mk1 they blend in to the shape.

Would take either - RS1800 hmmmmm.
SHame that one was wrecked on the rally at the weekend.
Straight on at a 90 right, downhill, muddy, into bank, over stonewall and rested in the trees, ripped the front struts completely out of the car.
Could be the end of a competition shell. Driver and nav were fine at least !!

Mustang
11-13-2004, 04:30 PM
New it woudl be hard - great pics.

It's jsut the Mk2 forest arches look like an after-tought where at least on the Mk1 they blend in to the shape.

Would take either - RS1800 hmmmmm.!!

yeah i agree that the arches do loo like a bit of an after thaught but on that vid with the rothmans escort they dont seem as noticablt bad


Straight on at a 90 right, downhill, muddy, into bank, over stonewall

unusual pacenotes :p

Matra et Alpine
11-13-2004, 04:43 PM
unusual pacenotes :p
ROFL.

it was a navigational stage in the dark.
Crested a brow and as the road dropped away to the right.
Talking about it later only half of us navs had called the corner as a caution from he map !!
So the other half were lucky :)

It's why WRC moved to full pace notes. The professionals don't like going out of rallies so easily over simple "mistakes".
I see it as a better challenge !!!

Mustang
11-13-2004, 04:50 PM
ROFL.

it was a navigational stage in the dark.
Crested a brow and as the road dropped away to the right.
Talking about it later only half of us navs had called the corner as a caution from he map !!
So the other half were lucky :)

It's why WRC moved to full pace notes. The professionals don't like going out of rallies so easily over simple "mistakes".
I see it as a better challenge !!!

yeah more of a challenge i guess but generally when its the WRC cars crashing they are going a wee bit faster and have harder, bigger, faster drops :o

On a rally in wales i think it was a group of people went there from out club and there was one slight corner down a long straight with a bit of a crest in the middle. as it was quite a long straight even the slower cars were getting upto top end speeds, anyways to get this corner correct you almost had to cut very far into the left to make it round the corner. One of the FOrd Ka driver hadnt realised this and went straight down the middle of the road, causing him to o on the grass and slide down the hill, luckilythere were some big bushed and fencing at the bottom of he could of had another huge drop off a very steep hill side which wouldnt of been nice

hotwheels
11-13-2004, 11:19 PM
still my favorite is the 2000 mustang corbr R......hopefully my next will be the 2007 mustang cobra R

jcp123
11-13-2004, 11:33 PM
still my favorite is the 2000 mustang corbr R......hopefully my next will be the 2007 mustang cobra R

that's not really a classic...at least not yet

mg_roadster
11-14-2004, 09:49 AM
I used to own a 1970 2002, had to get rid of it, now I own a 1971 MGB Roadster. Both great looking and fun cars. The BMW handles better (4 wheel indipendant suspension) MG = solid rear axle. :( But the MG is a convertable :)

McReis
11-15-2004, 03:56 AM
Even more than the Mk1 with forest arches ?????


Is this what you mean? Photo I took this weekend at one of our "home made events".

Mustang
11-15-2004, 03:42 PM
Is this what you mean? Photo I took this weekend at one of our "home made events".


dayam you know how to pleasea man :p

Matt
11-15-2004, 08:14 PM
Is this what you mean? Photo I took this weekend at one of our "home made events".


Gorgeous photo - you should add that to the Escort thread in the hide-out.

McReis
11-16-2004, 03:33 AM
Gorgeous photo - you should add that to the Escort thread in the hide-out.

Oh yes! I'll do it.

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 06:47 AM
Is this what you mean? Photo I took this weekend at one of our "home made events".
oh, yes, that's the one.
Any idea what model it is ?
Engine/axle ?
If it's for sale :) ? Hey I can dream can't I :)

McReis
11-16-2004, 08:00 AM
oh, yes, that's the one.
Any idea what model it is ?
Engine/axle ?
If it's for sale :) ? Hey I can dream can't I :)

It's based on a real RS2000.
The engine is from a Escort Cosworth, but without the turbo and without the injection. Double twin carbs rule! :) It has lightweight pistons and runs with a dry oil carter. The oil is filtered in the back. Guess you know what I mean as you're used to rally cars.
The gearbox is a dog leg ZF with an Atlas axle. Can't remenber the ratio of the diff.

EDIT: It's not for sale but he also owns a Kadett GTE wich is for sale.

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 08:46 AM
EDIT: It's not for sale but he also owns a Kadett GTE wich is for sale.
concidence, mate just sold his rally GTE.
What's this one going for ??

McReis
11-16-2004, 09:08 AM
concidence, mate just sold his rally GTE.
What's this one going for ??


Not sure I understood your question... This car is for sale because my mate does this for a living. We works mainly with rally cars, present and classic. Sometimes he does this kind of race replicas for special costumers. And so he does for himself to take his cars to shows and rallyes as a kind of promotion of his services. He's keeping the escort because, has you know, it's more powerful and easy to drive. But the Kadett is even more perfect and if it finally manages to sell it, it will be a very reluctant deal.

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 09:26 AM
Not sure I understood your question... This car is for sale because my mate does this for a living. We works mainly with rally cars, present and classic. Sometimes he does this kind of race replicas for special costumers. And so he does for himself to take his cars to shows and rallyes as a kind of promotion of his services. He's keeping the escort because, has you know, it's more powerful and easy to drive. But the Kadett is even more perfect and if it finally manages to sell it, it will be a very reluctant deal.
ah, sorry, shouldn't use English 'slang' on international forum :)
"going for" - what price :) ?
interesting you say kadette "more perfect". he couldnt' get the handlign sorted out and the pwoer jsut wasn't good enough. So he's rebuilding a Sunbeam Lotus forest stages spec rally car now.
We don't have much experince in UK with the kadette, mainly Escorts and the Lotus from those days :(

McReis
11-16-2004, 10:20 AM
ah, sorry, shouldn't use English 'slang' on international forum :)
"going for" - what price :) ?
interesting you say kadette "more perfect". he couldnt' get the handlign sorted out and the pwoer jsut wasn't good enough.


I meant that it is in more perfect condition. However it as neither the power or the handling of the Escort. But I guess it's a chassis related issue. :) Nothing can beat the chassis of the escort in what comes to balance.

The Sunbeam Lotus is a far more interesting cars. They make up to 260bhp! With that short chassis I can't imagine how it is to drive such a thing... :eek:

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 01:53 PM
I meant that it is in more perfect condition. However it as neither the power or the handling of the Escort. But I guess it's a chassis related issue. :) Nothing can beat the chassis of the escort in what comes to balance.
Ha, I understand.
Was just wondering if we weren't setting it up properly.
Agreed, hard to beat the Escort ( unless it's a 1380 Mini :) )


The Sunbeam Lotus is a far more interesting cars. They make up to 260bhp! With that short chassis I can't imagine how it is to drive such a thing... :eek:
I'll let you know in the spring.
The rebuild will be finished then.
He is seriously considering putting a tuned Nissan engine and transmission in taking it out to 300bvhp. he reckons the chassis can take it.
I'm not sure and trying to convince him to stay with the Lotus power :(

Mustang
11-16-2004, 02:20 PM
I'll let you know in the spring.
The rebuild will be finished then.
He is seriously considering putting a tuned Nissan engine and transmission in taking it out to 300bvhp. he reckons the chassis can take it.
I'm not sure and trying to convince him to stay with the Lotus power :(


:( you really dont understand how annoyed this makes me, these are the things i wanna do but guess age is the damn problem here :(

oh well maybee in the future :)

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 02:27 PM
:( you really dont understand how annoyed this makes me, these are the things i wanna do but guess age is the damn problem here :(

oh well maybee in the future :)
yeah no rush Mustang.

Youv'e 50+ years ahead of you to compete in rallying :)

Just look at it this way, if you do too much too soon then you'll get bored and not have any challenge when you're 65 !!!

Mustang
11-16-2004, 02:55 PM
yeah no rush Mustang.

Youv'e 50+ years ahead of you to compete in rallying :)

Just look at it this way, if you do too much too soon then you'll get bored and not have any challenge when you're 65 !!!


hey ill NEVER get bored of it, :) and as you say i guess there is no rush :), its just that i really want to do it so badly :p

Matra et Alpine
11-16-2004, 03:18 PM
really want to do it so badly :p
I'm hoping you do better than that, try harder and do it "so good" please - or no UCP sponsorship.

Come on Wouter, how about a free 6 month super membership for any race car carrying the UCP logo.
Another market for AAA-Mods clothing -- some vinyl stickers.
I can get them made any size any colour real low cost and ship em anywhere :)

Mustang
11-16-2004, 03:23 PM
I'm hoping you do better than that, try harder and do it "so good" please - or no UCP sponsorship.

Come on Wouter, how about a free 6 month super membership for any race car carrying the UCP logo.
Another market for AAA-Mods clothing -- some vinyl stickers.
I can get them made any size any colour real low cost and ship em anywhere :)


Hey i dont mind having The UCP logo on my car get it sent to me and ill put it on :) (and with a free 6month membership it cant be bad :p)

McReis
11-17-2004, 03:39 AM
I'll let you know in the spring.
The rebuild will be finished then.
He is seriously considering putting a tuned Nissan engine and transmission in taking it out to 300bvhp. he reckons the chassis can take it.
I'm not sure and trying to convince him to stay with the Lotus power :(

That would be a waste. The original Lotus 2.2 sounds so good... And the car has such a value that it's a shame not to keep it standard.

Matra et Alpine
11-17-2004, 04:33 AM
That would be a waste. The original Lotus 2.2 sounds so good... And the car has such a value that it's a shame not to keep it standard.
well he's looking at getting another 80 brake :)
He's a power nut, I'm a 'classic' :)
I've already told him if he wants a Nissan engine then just rally a bloody Nissan :) erm, maybe not, likely to crumble by the end of the first forest stage :)

goose
12-21-2004, 07:25 AM
hey charged...i have a bolwell mk7 ...same as you ....not a nagari as you have mentioned.

Matra et Alpine
12-21-2004, 07:27 AM
tell us more, goose, what engine, condition ? any pics ?? Go create a new thread and tell us about it and your experiences.

goose
12-21-2004, 07:34 AM
hmmm no motor at this stage havent decided yet. yeah i have pics...will send l8r! in pretty good nick for its age ....its a 1967 roadster....but was made as a coupe!

narb
12-21-2004, 11:31 AM
mine is ferrari 250 gto

Spastik_Roach
12-22-2004, 03:09 AM
Citroen DS, Ford Mk1 Escort Mexico Coupe (Yellow with black side stripe)

Citroen SM

Bmw 3.0 CSL (Saw a Red one a couple of months ago, a road one, absolutely drop dead GORGEOUS)

Lamborghini Miura

Ferrari 288 GTO

Favourite overall how ever has to be the DS. Just simply gorgeous.

charged
12-22-2004, 03:35 AM
hey charged...i have a bolwell mk7 ...same as you ....not a nagari as you have mentioned.Good on ya goose,i dont own one personally,but i love them post a pic of your Bowell,so sad they went out of business.What specs will your Bowell run?

narb
12-22-2004, 01:40 PM
Citroen DS, Ford Mk1 Escort Mexico Coupe (Yellow with black side stripe)

Citroen SM

Bmw 3.0 CSL (Saw a Red one a couple of months ago, a road one, absolutely drop dead GORGEOUS)

Lamborghini Miura

Ferrari 288 GTO

Favourite overall how ever has to be the DS. Just simply gorgeous.


i like all but i still with mine :D :)

wickedgam
12-23-2004, 01:19 AM
i love the miura sv '71.also i like the ds,GTO and 356 B

patolincar
12-26-2004, 04:13 PM
The mercedes-benz 300SL glodwing of 1954... ;) is the best cars in the world, and it was the first super cars in the history car... :rolleyes:

mx512p
12-29-2004, 08:00 AM
Ferrari 330 P4 (1967), Ferrari 250 GTO (1962), Ferrari 250 Le Mans (1963), Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa (1957), Ferrari 365 GTB/4 "Daytona" (1968), Porsche 550 Spyder (1955), Ford GT40 MkIII (1966?), Lamborghini Miura (1967).
Too many?

vantage-v8
01-06-2005, 05:44 PM
Aston Martin Vantage V8 1982
Ferrari 250 GT Lusso 1963

patolincar
01-17-2005, 09:11 PM
I like a lot The goldwing 300SL roadster and coupe... :D

henk4
01-18-2005, 01:17 AM
I like a lot The goldwing 300SL roadster and coupe... :D

Hope you don't mind me being pedantic, but it is GULL wing, like the wings of the bird. I know English is not your mother tongue :)

patolincar
01-18-2005, 11:39 AM
henk4 ...if you have some problems with me just tell it...i know english is not my lenguage mother , but i`m tryng to practice here and i have been getting better my english...so let me quiet...the rest of people here is great, but your the exception :mad: ...sorry men...I hope you understand my situation...
en todo caso...paz hermano...
bye!!! :D

henk4
01-18-2005, 12:03 PM
henk4 ...if you have some problems with me just tell it...i know english is not my lenguage mother , but i`m tryng to practice here and i have been getting better my english...so let me quiet...the rest of people here is great, but your the exception :mad: ...sorry men...I hope you understand my situation...
en todo caso...paz hermano...
bye!!! :D

Sorry, but you missed the smiley at the end of my post. I do acknowledge that your English is not perfect (and neither is mine because it is also not my first language). I just found the use of the word Goldwing in stead of Gullwing amusing, but I had no intention at all to be derogatory. :) . No reason to be mad, and in case you need any help please don't hesitate to ask :)

Fleet 500
01-18-2005, 04:07 PM
My favorite classic cars:

- Any 1959 Cadillac (Eldorado Biarritz shown in photo)
- 1957 Chrysler 300-C (375 and 390 hp.)
- 1966 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
- 1968/'69 Dodge Charger R/T 440 or 426-Hemi
- 1968/'69 Dodge Coronet R/T 440 or 426-Hemi
- 1966 Pontiac GTO
- 1969 Ford Fairlane 428 Cobra-Jet
- 1969 Plymouth GTX 440 (or Hemi)
- 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona 426-Hemi
- 1970 Plymouth Hemicuda
- 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6
- 1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
- 1970 Olds 4-4-2 455
- 1969 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham
- 1968-1976 Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Five Limousine

Plus others, of course.

CdocZ
01-18-2005, 04:09 PM
ok......65 mustand, 69 stingray vette, 70 dodge coronet superbee, original shelby cobra.

my porsche
01-18-2005, 04:12 PM
1973 porsche carrera RS
1967 mustang GT500E

Renesis
01-18-2005, 07:26 PM
uhmm.. favorite car all around, Datsun 240Z
nobody say anything about the styling- we're all thinking it and its been said

forza_autodelta
01-22-2005, 01:39 PM
alfa romeo sprint zagato 1300 and aston martin db4 gt zagato

Cadillac Imaj
01-23-2005, 09:48 PM
A BMW 328 to me!

Manik
01-25-2005, 06:04 PM
my favourite classic car is the 1965 Aston Martin DB5 Vantage out of the 1000 produced only 65 had the vantage engine. just love that car

robcooper
01-03-2006, 05:42 AM
my favourite classics would have to be AM DB4GT Zagato, 250GT SWB and 250 GTO. The three most beautiful cars of all time.

robcooper
01-03-2006, 05:42 AM
there were 1018 DB5s produced

robcooper
01-03-2006, 05:46 AM
you guys would love it near where i live. There is a garage about 1/4 mile from my house and before it got taken over there were Countachs, Miuras,Escort Cossies, and a few ex Schumi F1 cars from the mid 90s etc. But now you only see the odd AM DBS, Vanquish, 3.0 CSAs in lime green and light blue 3.0 CSL. Plus there is a Lancaster Porsche and Aston Garage in the next village and when the future owners take a spin, they drive by my house because the route they take is pretty much a square and my house is in the middle of it.

lol

go.pawel
02-06-2006, 02:26 PM
My favorite classics. (Sorry, I wasn't able to make it a shorter list):

Alfa Romeo 1300/1600 Junior Zagato
Aston Martin DBS
De Tomaso Mangusta (the old one of course, not the Qvale one)
De Tomaso Pantera (esp. GTS)
Dodge Challenger R/T
Facel Vega Facel II/III
Jensen Interceptor/FF
Lamborghini Espada
Lancia 037
LMX-Sirex

To all the cars that didn't make it to my list - I still love you, hope you're not mad at me:o

jcp123
02-07-2006, 07:10 PM
Right now I have two favorites:

1958 Cadillac Series 62 DeVille Convertible. 365ci block, bored .030 over with '59-'62 390 crank (395ci total), intake, headers, yadda yadda, backed up with GM 700R4 automatic overdrive tranny. Duals with Smithy's Pipes, 4-wheel Eldorado discs, CB radio. Blck/black with charcoal grey Tijuana Tuck-n-Roll interior trimmed in red cord.

For a daily driver I want a late teens-'27 Ford T-bucket roadster, channelled, dropped, etc, windshield laid back about 20*, 7X-spec Hudson Twin-H Power 308cid straight six, kustom header, glasspacks, Hudson 4-speed tranny with selectible overdrive or a three-speed unsynchro tranny, Buick juice brakes, Ford 9" rear end, Ford wheels with Mercury discs, '39 Ford truck grille, Suicide front end, '30's Freightliner headlights, beer tap handle for shifter, '73 Mustang steering with '53 Chevy steering wheel, mexican saddle blanket upholstery. I wouldn't worry about it getting stolen...because nobody would know how to drive it!

250 GTO
02-07-2006, 07:17 PM
Ferrari 250 GTO or the Mercedes-Benz 300 SL.

kingofthering
02-07-2006, 07:25 PM
Ferrari 250 GT SWB, Chevrolet Yenko Camaro (fast) or a Citroen 2CV, cute, funny, and the first people's car.

nota
02-07-2006, 08:14 PM
a Citroen 2CV, cute, funny, and the first people's car.
Not familiar with Austin Seven? Or Ford Model T?

Alfasudcrazy
02-07-2006, 10:14 PM
This is mine the TR6 - it was my first classic and I still have it since 1993.

Here is a bit of a review I wrote earlier.


The weather this evening is cold, very windy and dark threatening clouds loom overhead - just the kinda evening for a little open top motoring.
I roll out my TR6 – the battery just installed after being left charge overnight. Every journey in this car is an event – you can’t take it for granted you will be back without encountering some TR6 character forming moments.
But its obvious to me the TR6 is on top form again as I listen to the 6 cylinder growl enthusiastically. It accelerates nicely considering it has not been out of the garage for four weeks with not a hint of splutter or hesitance. I stop along the way to get a few pics – but it’s a brief stop as I prefer driving it to photographing it.
But as usual light rain soon starts to appear on the windscreen requiring me to switch on the wipers. Mother nature has decided I have had enough pleasure for now as I anxiously drive it home before the trickle turns into a deluge.
Just as I approach my garage door the gods let rip – I can just barely get it back into its tight slot in the garage before the rain can do any real damage. The TR6 gleams under the glow of the fluorescent garage lights as the stainless steel exhaust ‘pings’ as it cools. I close the door and lock up – just twenty minutes of fun – still the exhilarating feeling lasts for quite a while. Just knowing the TR6 is there – waiting for the next driving opportunity gives me something to look forward to. Next time the weather might be less of a spoil sport.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr1z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr12z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr11z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr10z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr9z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr8z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr76z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr62z.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr5z.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Alfasudcrazy/tr4z.jpg

Dajje90
03-09-2006, 10:57 AM
Ferrari 275 GTB/C

Jaguar E-type Low Drag

Aston Martin DB4 Vantage

Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2,7

Gisoo
09-09-2006, 10:50 PM
I saw a corvette stingray at Huntington Library today.
It's COOOOOLLLLL!!

rev440
09-10-2006, 03:55 PM
I like all the auburns exspecially the boat tail speedster. Im a muscle car guy so naturally mustangs, cudas and cobras. My favorite from the 60's are the big block mustangs and camaros with the 63 split window vettes and the 67 big block verts.

Gtek-i
09-11-2006, 02:17 AM
All muscle cars with new exhaust system that sound sooo nice when they full throttle it, and AC Cobra

henk4
09-11-2006, 02:21 AM
I like all the auburns exspecially the boat tail speedster. Im a muscle car guy so naturally mustangs, cudas and cobras. My favorite from the 60's are the big block mustangs and camaros with the 63 split window vettes and the 67 big block verts.
just wondering why you post a Duesenberg when you declare your affection for Auburns:D

Roy Visser
09-11-2006, 12:39 PM
someday..

(wouter will soon reply he has a bathtub with the same styling features)

rev440
09-11-2006, 05:42 PM
just wondering why you post a Duesenberg when you declare your affection for Auburns:D

My understanding is a dusenberg is the fwd version of an auburn. I love the car and the way it looks.

nota
09-11-2006, 09:28 PM
My understanding is a dusenberg is the fwd version of an auburn. I love the car and the way it looks.
http://info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=92

You're not alone in admiring the works of master stylist Gordon Buehrig, and the Aulburn, Cord & Duesenberg motorcars, or extending to Mr Cord himself for that matter :)

Eurocar
09-12-2006, 01:04 AM
Mine would be the Aston Martin DB5. It just oozes class and style. And of the 'Bond Factor'. Next up, and very closely, the Merc. 300SL Gullwing. One of my favourite supercars ever and IMO, the grandfather of all supercars. Then it would be the original Golf GTi. Does that count? Well never mind!:D

kigango123
09-12-2006, 12:15 PM
talking about ferrari's and maserati's
im a chevy boy, all time favorite 1960 el camino

rev440
09-12-2006, 05:59 PM
http://info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=92

You're not alone in admiring the works of master stylist Gordon Buehrig, and the Aulburn, Cord & Duesenberg motorcars, or extending to Mr Cord himself for that matter :)

Ive actually seen that building many times and have even flown over it in a helicopter once or twice. Its right across the street from the auburn kruse and thats where I took that picture. Its like the next best thing to barret jackson.

DesmoRob
09-12-2006, 06:03 PM
These are my personal favourites:D.

jcp123
09-12-2006, 09:02 PM
Well...my list changes from day to day, so what I say today is completely transient and probably will be different tomorrow. Today, it's this:

Any Ford with a 351C-4v V8 and stickshift in it.

Although the M-B 190 Pontons have been making quite an impression on me since we bought one.

nota
09-12-2006, 09:37 PM
Well...my list changes from day to day, so what I say today is completely transient and probably will be different tomorrow. Today, it's this:

Any Ford with a 351C-4v V8 and stickshift in it.

:p ANY Ford?

http://www.colacambulance.com/F100%20Ambulance.htm

Like any other locally assembled 1974-84 (approx) F100 these same-era Ford ambulances in the above link could be factory-optioned with deep breathing (non emissionised) 351C-4Vs. Transmission choices included 4-speed (stickshift) manual, even a sportspack. Ford manufactured those great Cleveland V8 engines here in 302 & 351 size for a decade :cool:

jcp123
09-13-2006, 11:38 AM
Huh...never knew you could get a C in those...I kind of like them though! You could do a pretty neat camping conversion in the back of them, and with the Cleveland in there you'd still never be hurting for power!!

strega13
10-11-2006, 10:31 PM
just a few of the classics i love :
mercedes 300SL gullwing
http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/images/car_info/mercedes_300sl_gullwing_2.jpg
porsche 917
http://www.alexreade.net/acatalog/1971_18th_Porsche917_Sebring_Winner.jpg
ferrari 330P4
http://www.slotchamps.de/slotchamps/images/racer/330p4.jpg
this 250GTO is only second to me to the mercedes 300SL gullwing and the most beautiful ferrari ever built
http://www.testarossa.nl/gallery/250gto_front.jpg
http://www.testarossa.nl/gallery/250gto_back.jpg
toyota 200GT
http://www.chigasaki-cci.or.jp/kougyou_kengakukai/img/2000gt.jpg
datsun/nissan 240Z
http://www.nissandatsuncarclubsa.com/members_cars_pictures/peteH_gold_web/images/240z%20004.jpg

BLACK 300ZX
10-18-2006, 05:49 PM
It's a hard question! :)

250GTO, 250 GT SWB, 250 Lusso, 250 LM, 250TR, 330TRI LM, 330 P4, 365 GTB/4 Daytona, 512BB, 512S, DB4 GT Zagato, 911 RSR, 917 Kurzheck, Giulia Sprint GTA, Giula TZ2, Tipo 33 Stradale, BMW E9 3.0 CSL, M1, 2002 tii, Escort MK1 RS1600, Cortina Lotus, Talbot Sunbeam Lotus, Toyota 2000GT, Skyline KPGC10/KPGC110 and many others...

J.J.Horst
10-18-2006, 11:59 PM
Making a short list would be difficult, but I will try. Cars in no particular order...

Daimler Majestic Major (4.5 L V8, 8 sec 0-100km/h for a 2.5 ton car)
Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire
Princess 2200 HLS (Totally unreliable mechanically, but Oh so beautiful!)
Lamborghini Espada
And of course, for those who know me, some Bugattis:
T101 Exner 1965
T35
T57sc Atlantic
T41 Royale Kellner
T50 post-war rebody by Saoutchik
T57G: Preceding all post-war sportscar design in 1936! And also win LeMans.


www.BugattiPage.com

henk4
10-19-2006, 12:22 AM
Making a short list would be difficult, but I will try. Cars in no particular order...

Daimler Majestic Major (4.5 L V8, 8 sec 0-100km/h for a 2.5 ton car)
Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire
Princess 2200 HLS (Totally unreliable mechanically, but Oh so beautiful!)
Lamborghini Espada
And of course, for those who know me, some Bugattis:
T101 Exner 1965
T35
T57sc Atlantic
T41 Royale Kellner
T50 post-war rebody by Saoutchik
T57G: Preceding all post-war sportscar design in 1936! And also win LeMans.


www.BugattiPage.com


some very interesting choices there, especially among the non-Bugattis. The AS seems to be ignored by virtual all classic car magazines that I have been buying for the last 10-15 years. The Princess non-surprisingly also. The Daimler is indeed something of a sleeper, sadly it had to die after the Jaguar takeover.

J.J.Horst
10-19-2006, 02:22 AM
Did you know that Armstrong Siddeley stopped making cars only because they needed all funds to invest in the development of the VTOL Hawker-Siddeley Harrier?

I owned a Princess myself, very nice car, but with a fragile engine (straight-six transversely mounted at front). It had a tendency to overheat, so in summer at slow speed one had to put the heater to a maximum to cool down the engine!

Daimler made very interesting high quality cars, I owned a 1954 Conquest Century Saloon, very nice relatively small car with a 2.5 litre straight six. Equipped with a lot of nice things, best of which was the Daimler Fluid Flywheel Transmission. This self-controlled automatic would enable gearchanges at full throttle, effectively slowing down the engine revs by boosting the car-speed.

All of these cars are seen only sporadically, and are in fact relatively cheap to acquire. For the Daimler and Armstrong Siddeley the prices are very low, compared with contemporary RR's which were of comparable quality. Real High class people didn't buy RR, they bought Daimler! (as for example the Queen of England).

McReis
10-19-2006, 02:49 AM
The AS seems to be ignored by virtual all classic car magazines that I have been buying for the last 10-15 years. The Princess non-surprisingly also.
In fact it surprises me to see how some rare upper-class models can be overlooked by magazines, while we get so many repeated info about the same old cars. It's boring. I suppose all classic car lovers like "odd-balls".


This self-controlled automatic would enable gearchanges at full throttle, effectively slowing down the engine revs by boosting the car-speed.
There's one thing I never read about. Interesting and very advanced.


All of these cars are seen only sporadically, and are in fact relatively cheap to acquire. For the Daimler and Armstrong Siddeley the prices are very low, compared with contemporary RR's which were of comparable quality. Real High class people didn't buy RR, they bought Daimler! (as for example the Queen of England).
That's because even when buying unusual cars, people still prefer to go with the current instead of really being original.

henk4
10-19-2006, 02:53 AM
On top of that I cannot even remember having seen an AS Sapphire on any of the events that I have been visiting during the past 10 years or so, not even in the parking lots and at Silverstone club meetings.

go.pawel
10-19-2006, 03:01 AM
On top of that I cannot even remember having seen an AS Sapphire on any of the events that I have been visiting during the past 10 years or so, not even in the parking lots and at Silverstone club meetings.
Try some lower-scale events :)
An Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire at Oldtimerdag Alphen aan den Rijn (hope I remember the name correctly) in 2003. Also an interesting Riley Pathfinder.

J.J.Horst
10-19-2006, 03:05 AM
There was an Armstrong Siddeley Hurricane at Paleis het Loo 2 or so years ago. I Believe it was accompanied by a Sapphire or a Star Sapphire. Also there was an exhibition in the Hague, I believe 5 years ago approx.

henk4
10-19-2006, 03:12 AM
There was an Armstrong Siddeley Hurricane at Paleis het Loo 2 or so years ago. I Believe it was accompanied by a Sapphire or a Star Sapphire. Also there was an exhibition in the Hague, I believe 5 years ago approx.

My AS folders are empty, except for this HP25Tickford, shown at the Concours in Schwetzingen in 2003. There was also a Hurricane based ute for sale at the Bonhams auction at Quail this year...

D'ARTOIS
10-21-2006, 07:10 AM
I was about 21 when I bought an Armstrong Siddeley for a mere 500 guilders -
but very shortly after I sold it since it was very difficult for me to maintain the car. The mechanics were desastriously difficult (electric-hydraulic gearbox similar to Delahaye, which I have had as well). Frankly, even now I would hesitate to buy such a complicated car but again, yes it might be a forgotten beauty!

francar
06-10-2007, 08:35 AM
favourite classics ... it´s not easy ... :confused:

ok ... this Maserati and Ferrari :D