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Mad about Autos
04-25-2003, 08:38 AM
These two have been at it ever since the first Lambo.....and it only keeps getting better... so, which one would you take out of each era?

'60s: Miura vs 275 GTB
'70s: Countach Vs Daytona
'80s: Countach LP Vs Testarossa
Early '90s: F40 Vs Diablo
Today: Murcielago Vs 575 M

Take yer pick...

Meluion
04-25-2003, 09:05 AM
'60s: Miura
'70s: Countach
'80s: Countach LP
Early '90s: F40
Today: Murcielago

Aych Es Vee
04-25-2003, 09:49 AM
lambo wins

Jammer
04-25-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Meluion
'60s: Miura
'70s: Countach
'80s: Countach LP
Early '90s: F40
Today: Murcielago

I 2nd that motion :D

But there are other cars that would beat some of these too.

amenasce
04-25-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Mad about Autos
These two have been at it ever since the first Lambo.....and it only keeps getting better... so, which one would you take out of each era?

'60s: Miura vs 275 GTB
'70s: Countach Vs Daytona
'80s: Countach LP Vs Testarossa
Early '90s: F40 Vs Diablo
Today: Murcielago Vs 575 M

Take yer pick...


'60s : the 275 GTB/4
'70s : the 365GTB/4
'80s : the Testarossa
'90s : the F40
Today : The 575 Fiorano . The murci is a superior machine but it lacks desirability. Its no longer an italian car .

Meluion
04-25-2003, 03:17 PM
Why not make of it:
Lamborghini vs. Ferrari vs. Maserati down the years.

Because cars like the Maserati Indy and Bora were also not bad at all.

Kossy
04-26-2003, 12:57 AM
F40 VS Diablo is not a fair comparison at all.

rt/10
04-27-2003, 10:24 AM
'60s: Miura
'70s: Countach
'80s: Countach LP
Early '90s: F40
Today: Murcielago

ferdy
04-28-2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by amenasce
'60s : the 275 GTB/4
'70s : the 365GTB/4
'80s : the Testarossa
'90s : the F40
Today : The 575 Fiorano . The murci is a superior machine but it lacks desirability. Its no longer an italian car .

Hi amenace!

I totally agree with you on the choices above. I find there is something a lot more desirable about a Ferrari compared to a Lamborghini. Although Lambos are great cars.

But over the years these the Ferrari models mentioned above have been more legendary than the comparitive Lamborghini ones

Cheers

Scientist
04-29-2003, 03:21 PM
'60s: Miura (fantastic looks!)
'70s: Countach (extreeeme looks!)
'80s: Testarossa (supercar icon)
Early '90s: F40 (the next supercar icon)
Today: Murcielago

About that today choice: that's a hard one to call, I just think the Murcielago is more a supercar than the 575M, the 575 is more a luxury car I think.
A comparison between the Gallardo and the 360 would be fairer here.

henk4
05-05-2003, 03:28 AM
comparisons are a bit askewed

may be better like this
350/400 GT vs 275GTB
Miura vs Daytona
Countach vs 365 BB and/or testarossa
(countach had a very long life)
Diablo vs. 512TR
Murcielago vs 575

My pick would be
275 GTB
Miura
Countach
512 TR
575

I agree that Murci has become a non-italian car, but may be if the problems at Fiat continue Ferrari might become another brand of GM. (may God forbid to belong to the same group as Daewoo)

Hakk
05-05-2003, 03:57 AM
Guys???
Are you crazy???
It is the first time I hear that 575M is better than Murcie...
Even in the Fiorano version this car is a total mess...It seems that the F****ri made so many changes to the car in order to make it good for road and they forgot what makes a car a real Italian supercar...
In the contest of Autocar (the magazine), where there was available a Murcie and a 575M, do anyone knows what the result was???
Sorry for the f****ri fans but Murcie was first of 16 cars and 575M was..............LAST OF THE 16..........The comments are yours...And I don't want to see anyone writing that AUTOCAR writes stupid things cause the opinion is not only from the journalists of the magazine but also from Bennett and Needel (BTCC Drivers if you don't know that)...Phil Bennett said that if he had given all that money to buy the 575M he would have teard a lot to forget what a stupid car 575M is...


With the other I agree that F40 is in one other category from Diablo...
And between Callardo and 360...It seems that Lambo will be the winner again...
Cheers.

henk4
05-05-2003, 04:49 AM
According to his postscript Hakk does not appear to be very Ferrari friendly. Anyway, may be the comparison between the 575 and the Murci is not correct, as these are technically totally different cars. May be compare it with the Enzo? Anyway in all comparison a personal taste will largely influence the decision. If we were to only quote respected magazines, than we might as well close these forums (fora) and concentrate on reading the gospel elsewhere.

Hakk
05-06-2003, 01:52 AM
Unfortunatelly for F****ri 575M (as 550) are the "category" car of Murcielago & Diablo...That means that 575M had lost its goal that was to win Lamborghini...(Something that the company had goaled some years ago when the 550 was better than the -difficult to drive- Diablo)

And I said about AUTOCAR not cause something else but the comments of popular race drivers like Bennett and Needel...That was my only point...

To the comparison between Enzo and murcie your point is far away from fair...Enzo, like F40 and F50 are in a category of very special cars...In the same category as McLaren F1...All this years I have heard a lot of people compare the lambos with these F****ris cause all of them are supercars...but supercar is also the Viper...So why not compare th Viper with the F****ri???
Hope you get my point...
Cheers.

P.S. Murcie is for sure more beautiful than 575M...

henk4
05-06-2003, 02:53 AM
interesting to see that the 575M now consistently outclasses the Vipers in the latest GT races. Apart from the occasional Diablo, Lambo had not much to show there. Are we waiting for the first murci to enter? As far as the F1 is concerned the production has been so limited (less than 125 ??) that it is far more exclusive than the Enzo, of which another 50 will be built to meet demand. The F1 in its time did not meet the F50 during races, because Ferrari decided to not further develop the F50GT, although the potential was there.

Hakk
05-06-2003, 04:30 AM
interesting to see that the 575M now consistently outclasses the Vipers in the latest GT races.

I think you mean the 550 Maranello GT...(If you mean FIA GT)

henk4
05-06-2003, 05:40 AM
yes, isn't that sort of the same car anyway?

Hakk
05-06-2003, 07:56 AM
not the same...575M is like the new megane...it was the old one and Renault thought to change it...
And F****ri made it...but with a bad way...The good 550 become a ugly and bad 575M...

kinan.f
05-07-2003, 04:52 AM
Let me be straight about some thing :I'm a Lambo fan.Still I think this is the list:
60s:Miura with out a doubt
70s:Countach
80s:Testarossa
Early 90s :F40 although it is more like a race car than the Diablo
Today:Murcielago

austinreed2
05-08-2003, 06:17 PM
60s:miura
70s:countach
80s:countach lp
90s:diablo(speed horses handling but the 0-60 is abit lower)
00s:murcieglo

Rob
05-10-2003, 12:33 PM
Lambo vs Ferrari

60s Miura
70s Daytona
80s Countash LP
90s F40
00s Murcielago

DasModell
05-14-2003, 08:04 AM
:) i compare cars that was raced in the same categories .. the Lamobo's weren;t raced ... ... so the winner is Ferrari all the way :)

ggg
09-28-2006, 01:37 PM
'60s: Miura
'70s: Countach
'80s: Countach LP
Early '90s: F40
Today: Murcielago


lambo wins

LotusLocost
09-28-2006, 01:47 PM
lambo wins

You are seriously going to get banned if you don't stop this..
You realize that?

BTW: is this a record? 3 years and four months between two posts??

F1_Master
09-28-2006, 03:51 PM
This comparison has some holes in it.

1) This is the wrong type of Ferrari to compare to.
The Miura P400 SV was more of a competitor against a Ferrar 365 GTB/4 Daytona.

2) Why did you put Countach, than Countach LP? All Countachs were LPs, the first being the '74 LP400. Best to compare this Countach to a 365GTB/4 BB or if you want to compare the latter '70s Countach, the '78 LP400 S, then the Ferrari competitor would be a Ferrari BB 512/512i.

3) The LP model you're referring to would be the '80s. There are 2 models with the same power that can be used, either the 25th Anniversary or LP500 QV.
Now, you were right here. The LP500 QV was a Testarossa competitor. However, the F40 was released 1 year earlier than the 25th Anniversary car, and this is where the F40 would compete against (or the remaining Testarossa). Out of the 2 though, the Countach 25th Anniversary was in between. Just a slight tad better than a Testarossa, but not so much a match for the F40.

4) In the 1990's, the F40 was leaving while the first Diablos were entering. Any comparisons weren't very fair because of so. The early Diablos also did not develop the Viscous Traction drivetrain in 1993 until after the F40. This would have been much more equal to the F40.

No, in the 1990's, the '95-'97 F50 would be the Ferrari to compare. The Diablo GT would become the best car to compare (though a '99 model). Built as a pure-bred race car for the road like the F50, the competition would be much fairer though I think the F50 would be a bit better.

5) The Maranello against the Murcielago is no longer a good comparison because Ferrari has changed since then as has Lamborghini.
The 575Ms were pretty good, but the Murcielago still had some power and stance to pull ahead.

The fairer comparison might be the LP640 vs the 599GTB. Only time will tell on this one, though.

F1_Master
09-28-2006, 03:52 PM
:) i compare cars that was raced in the same categories .. the Lamobo's weren;t raced ... ... so the winner is Ferrari all the way :)
Please the check into the FIA GT. Lamborghinis were raced. They were never factory backed though.