Best fuel Efficient Vehicle

[FEAutos]

Which is the best fuel efficient vehicle? Vote below!

http://www.fuelefficientautos.com/survey.php

Personally I have a Jetta, but it's not on the list...

[Matra et Alpine]

Which is the best fuel efficient vehicle? Vote below!

http://www.fuelefficientautos.com/survey.php

Personally I have a Jetta, but it's not on the list...
It's missing the top 29 of the top 30 so no point voting !!!
I've produced the list elsewhere - go diesel :)

[FEAutos]

What are some of your faves Matra?

[Matra et Alpine]

What are some of your faves Matra?
Sadly I admit to fuel-efficiency not being one of my FAVOURITES.

But it's a necessity for some of the time.
Skoda Fabia is actually pretty impressive and hard to beat pulling 50-70 on motorway. Diesel.
Just getting over the badge is a problem :(

I've tested the Prius and would have been tempted IF it had been able to tow. But alas the computer cannae take it cap'n :)

All in all, the Citroen Picasso is a top of the list just now. Great consumption ( 50+ ) and can caryy 5 adults, loads of car bits AND tow most things.

BUT I've an Espace 4x4 I keep for towing the horses, 20 years old, still in great condition despite it's treatment and used on kids horse eventing and my and mates track days. ( But I *only* get 25-30mpg )

[GTR Dreamer]

i would have 2 say that a fully ported quad rotor would win that! :D :D :p :p hehehehehehhehehehhehehehehehehehehehehe

lol

[laxplayer98]

I love the Mini cooper S and always will so it gets my vote :D

[Sweeney921]

im surprised the cooper s hasnt gotten more votes, because it's the second fastest car in the group, with a 0-60 of 6.8, while the srt-4 does 5.8. somehow it manages to be fifth.

[GEO-oNe]

cooper s is great its in Austin powers so its got to be #1 :D

[SPN:DOC]

Go Passat, :) the Passat is a big and heavy car… :D very impressive… :)

[henk4]

Which is the best fuel efficient vehicle? Vote below!

http://www.fuelefficientautos.com/survey.php

Personally I have a Jetta, but it's not on the list...


please specifiy that these are supposedly the most fuel efficient cars available on the US market. As Matra already said, the "real" list would look totally different.
Prius with a D4D engine might be able to score some points here, but Toyota hasn't thought of that yet.

[FEAutos]

henk4...wanted to say that your input was noted and the survey was changed to say North American vehicles...thank you. If anyone has another other comments please post them to our forum or fill out the contact us form on our site.

[henk4]

henk4...wanted to say that your input was noted and the survey was changed to say North American vehicles...thank you. If anyone has another other comments please post them to our forum or fill out the contact us form on our site.


you'r welcome, and try to convince the people over there with you that reral fuel efficient and at the same time really performing cars are available over here in Europe.

[Roy Visser]

Go Passat Diesel :)

[Karrmann]

easy, toyota Prius

[henk4]

easy, toyota Prius


you stiill have no idea about fuel efficiency :)

[Karrmann]

fuel economy is diffrent over here

[FEAutos]

Hi folks...thank you to all of your who have been voting in our survey. I think some of the comments that you have been posting are great. I was wondering if I could pick your brains about something related to our site. We also have a messageboard and are trying to get get usersHow do you get a board running well and attract users? Henk...I have seen you post on here a few times...any thoughts?

[henk4]

Hi folks...thank you to all of your who have been voting in our survey. I think some of the comments that you have been posting are great. I was wondering if I could pick your brains about something related to our site. We also have a messageboard and are trying to get get usersHow do you get a board running well and attract users? Henk...I have seen you post on here a few times...any thoughts?

just sent you a private message on the subject :)

[henk4]

fuel economy is diffrent over here


Fuel economy is unambigious. It is the amount of fuel used to provide a certain level of transport. The less fuel you have to use the more efficient transportation becomes. It is not for nothing that all road trailers (also even in the USA) are now diesel powered, and if you can show me one ocean going ship that is propelled by gasoline, I will eat my hat.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Perhaps a better way to word the question was that fuel economy is relative. Any car which doens't have a major lump under the bonnet, could be classed as " Fuel efficient" in comparison to, say, an excursion. but in Europe, where they do have to watch what they use, you need to be really quite economical to raise an eyebrow. Most Cruise Liners are powered by Diesel, though a few are powered by Turbines, and 1 has little engine pods run by electricity, created by.....Diesel. It's quite a versatile thing....

[henk4]

Perhaps a better way to word the question was that fuel economy is relative. Any car which doens't have a major lump under the bonnet, could be classed as " Fuel efficient" in comparison to, say, an excursion. but in Europe, where they do have to watch what they use, you need to be really quite economical to raise an eyebrow. Most Cruise Liners are powered by Diesel, though a few are powered by Turbines, and 1 has little engine pods run by electricity, created by.....Diesel. It's quite a versatile thing....

Just a small deviation of car related aspects:
Ship Turbines are fuelled by Heavy Fuel Oil, under normal circumstances a solid substance, which needs to be heated to get through the fuel injectors. You might have come up with gas turbines, which run on gas oil or marine diesel oil, which is a heavier version of the automotive product.
A particular application of steam turbines can be found in Liquid Natural Gas carriers, which run on the boil-off of their cargo (cargo at minus 162 degrees). Even here experiments have started to use diesel engines instead, but using the same energy source.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

The Super Mileage competition car designed and built by my school gets some pretty good numbers.

Last 3 Competition Results:

YEAR
2002- 742.42 Miles per Gallon
2001- 472.23 Miles per Gallon
2000- 136.39 Miles per Gallon

[FEAutos]

Wow dude that's some pretty good stuff...are you sure you didn't mean miles per tank? How did you all pull off that many miles per gallon?

[Ferrari Tifosi]

The numbers I put are correct.

[Egg Nog]

Wow dude that's some pretty good stuff...are you sure you didn't mean miles per tank? How did you all pull off that many miles per gallon?

Nope, no error on his part. High school supermilage contest cars are powered by Briggs&Stratton lawnmower engines (1cyl, around 3hp I think). They're weird and funky looking creations :) I found an example picture online: (see attachement)

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Yes they use a 3.5 hp Briggs and Straton engine. Here some more information on the contest:

The Supermileage® competition provides engineering and technology students with a challenging design project that involves the development and construction of a single-person, fuel-efficient vehicle. Vehicles are powered by a small four-cycle engine. Students have the opportunity to set a world fuel economy record and increase public awareness of fuel economy.

Teams start with a 3.5hp engine donated by Briggs & Stratton. The teams are then allowed to perform any modifications desired as long as the stock crankcase is used and the power is delivered through the stock crankshaft.

The vehicles are then competed in Marshall, Michigan at the Eaton Proving Grounds. Teams are given six attempts with their best overall fuel economy standing against those of other teams.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I can't believe what the Americans think is economical! Their opinions of some jumped-up medium sized, crappy saloon (that nasty Dodge SRT4 whatever...) being 'economical' are laughable. Here in Britain, if a car does less than 28mpg it is deemed as fairly wasteful. I believe the average mpg of a car here is around 37mpg.... the most economical car in Britain at the moment is apparently the Volkswagen Lupo SDi, which can manage 65.2 mpg on the combined cycle! Quite frankly, the Yanks have got to get their heads out of the clouds and stop building horribly wasteful vehicles, such as the (nasty, slow, 3mpg) Hummer H2 and the (eco-disaster) Ford Excursion. Learn to make engines which have a decent bhp-per-ltre.

[FEAutos]

Wow...that's sweet...I'll have to look at more information about those types of contests. Quite impressive!!

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

lol ford gt on topgear ...

Richard: you used the entire tank on the track ...

Jeremy: Yes

Richard: so how many mpg did you get out of it

Jeremy: 4

Richard: 4 MPG !!!!

lmfao

even the audi twin turbo v8 diesal got 40mpg on the show

the amazing thing is to me

in europe im assuming commutes will be shorter then here in north america .. for the obvious reason of everything being more cramped up (thats not an insult)

so in retrospect you'd expect fuel economy to be more important over here since it would cost more to do the same journey to the mall or market over here but the exact opposite happens, i guess thats mainly because of the cost of living or standard of living or whatever u call it

fuel costs much more in europe then it does here in america
and the fact the average american's iq is lower then europe by about 5 points doesnt help either (i would thought itll be atleast 10 or 15 points)

p.s. in the 2002 study Hong Kong got the highest average IQ of 107 in the entire world BOOO YAA

[Slicks]

I can't believe what the Americans think is economical! Their opinions of some jumped-up medium sized, crappy saloon (that nasty Dodge SRT4 whatever...) being 'economical' are laughable. Here in Britain, if a car does less than 28mpg it is deemed as fairly wasteful. I believe the average mpg of a car here is around 37mpg.... the most economical car in Britain at the moment is apparently the Volkswagen Lupo SDi, which can manage 65.2 mpg on the combined cycle! Quite frankly, the Yanks have got to get their heads out of the clouds and stop building horribly wasteful vehicles, such as the (nasty, slow, 3mpg) Hummer H2 and the (eco-disaster) Ford Excursion. Learn to make engines which have a decent bhp-per-ltre.
Remember we dont go by imperial MPG. Over here your "fuel efficient" Lotus Elise gets 27mpg on the hwy, thats equivalent to the 400hp, 3100lbs Corvette Z06...
How is the Neon SRT4 a economical car? Its a perfomance compact, and priced under most cars it competes with.
What does hp/l have to do with anything? You do relise it effects perfomance in no way what so ever right? BTW most of the time cars with high hp/l get worse gas milage than cars with lower hp/l...

[Slicks]

lol ford gt on topgear ...

Richard: you used the entire tank on the track ...

Jeremy: Yes

Richard: so how many mpg did you get out of it

Jeremy: 4

Richard: 4 MPG !!!!

lmfao


Whats wrong with that? He was racing it right? I dont know about you, but when racing dont you have the throttle down most of the time? What do you think something like a Ferrari Enzo would get?

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

either way, thats still a production car, production cars (i dont care how performance oriented they are) should consume fuel at that rate, and even if he was driving it normally his mpg would not have exceeded 14

a honda civic gets 36 mpg driving normally, the majority of diesals easily go above the 40 mark

and as for the ferrari enzo, thats a totally different type of car
that is a formula 1 car designed to meet road laws, the ford gt is designed to compete with ferrari 360s and 911s

my point was the americans consume more fuel (per person/vehicle) then any other country and this is reflected in their mpg ratings in all their cars, what americans consider "efficient" is what people in europe and anywhere else in the world consider extremely wasteful

[Blue Supra]

I dont know they conversions well on gallons to litres but here if you have a car that does 100ks to ten litres you're doin well. my datto can do it but cause i flog it everywhere it gets 12L to the 100ks which is still pretty damn good. Our 3.5L V6 magna get under 10L to the hundred kays on the highway, on a 74L tank it gout us damn close to 800kays

[henk4]

I dont know they conversions well on gallons to litres but here if you have a car that does 100ks to ten litres you're doin well. my datto can do it but cause i flog it everywhere it gets 12L to the 100ks which is still pretty damn good. Our 3.5L V6 magna get under 10L to the hundred kays on the highway, on a 74L tank it gout us damn close to 800kays


I have said it before, but getting 10 litres per 100 km is still considered extremely wasteful. I am getting between 5-6 litres per 100 km and with a 65 litre tank can always go more than 1000 km if I adhere to the speed limits. (There's your progress in diesel engines, even with 2 litres and 135 BHP).

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

I dont know they conversions well on gallons to litres but here if you have a car that does 100ks to ten litres you're doin well. my datto can do it but cause i flog it everywhere it gets 12L to the 100ks which is still pretty damn good. Our 3.5L V6 magna get under 10L to the hundred kays on the highway, on a 74L tank it gout us damn close to 800kays

dont forget imperial gallons are not the same as the gallons used by the united states

i think litres are the same everywhere though

[jcp123]

Diesel is the way to go for efficiency. EPA needs to lighten up on diesels, there's some fantastic diesels out there now getting around 6l/100km average, and many that get much better than that even. i forget the conversion factor, but that's damn good mileage.

[henk4]

Diesel is the way to go for efficiency. EPA needs to lighten up on diesels, there's some fantastic diesels out there now getting around 6l/100km average, and many that get much better than that even. i forget the conversion factor, but that's damn good mileage.

Of course EPA is not protecting the interests of the USA car manufacturers but the fact that these have hardly any modern diesel technology at their disposal may have some influence on their current position.
On the other hand Chrysler could use well proven Mercedes technology, and Ford has the engines that have been developed in cooperation with French PSA. GM would be able to find something in the Opel range for sure.

[DasModell]

of FIAT range :d like the 1.9 jtd

[eyebrows]

the most fuel efficient car i know of is a custom mustang check it out
lol :D

[PerfAdv]

the most fuel efficient car i know of is a custom mustang check it out


Why, because it doesn't run. No run....no use gas. Just kidding. I like american muscle cars just not as fuel efficient cars.

My vote: Toyota Prius for city driving and VW TDI for the open road.

[jcp123]

I think since it said "vehicle" we overlook the motorycle: many of them get easily over 100mpg, and even say, a 250 ninja which is a high strung little machine to say the least gets 60-70mpg.

[henk4]

I think since it said "vehicle" we overlook the motorycle: many of them get easily over 100mpg, and even say, a 250 ninja which is a high strung little machine to say the least gets 60-70mpg.

but with the tiny fuel tanks you'll be back at the pump pretty quickly.

[jcp123]

True, but your wallet won't get drained nearly as fast either. Trust me, I get 16mpg in a GOOD week in my Mustang, usually closer to 14 (that probably translstes to roughly 16-18l/100km for y'all metric guys) - and simply not spending huge amounts of bank on gas is very tempting.

[henk4]

True, but your wallet won't get drained nearly as fast either. Trust me, I get 16mpg in a GOOD week in my Mustang, usually closer to 14 (that probably translstes to roughly 16-18l/100km for y'all metric guys) - and simply not spending huge amounts of bank on gas is very tempting.

is it impolite to ask what you get in a BAD weekend?

[jcp123]

Not at all.

I get right around 1mpg at WOT.

There was the week my ex dumped me. I was super pissed that week. I took it out on that poor 302. Returned 7-8mpg including a good deal of freeway time.

The Mach 1 in the sig gets 13 in a good week, I reckon about 5 when you get pissed. Don't know exactly, that one's my Dad's daily driver so I don't get much seat time.

The convertible for some reason gets lousy gas mileage. It's the most mildly tuned of all of them, but I've never gotten better than about 15 out of it even on the freeway. Considering ditching the Carter AFB and getting an Edelbrock.

[henk4]

Thanks, you sure are lucky that european fuel prices are not applied there.

[jcp123]

Thanks, you sure are lucky that european fuel prices are not applied there.

You can say that again. If they did, I'd be in a lil ol Escort (the ol late 60's-early 70's Twin Cam model, forget the name) or a Cosworth Twin Cam Vega. Incidentally, anyone know what kinda mileage those get?

[henk4]

You can say that again. If they did, I'd be in a lil ol Escort (the ol late 60's-early 70's Twin Cam model, forget the name) or a Cosworth Twin Cam Vega. Incidentally, anyone know what kinda mileage those get?

10 km per litre maximum

[jcp123]

Works for me. You know what's sad, I consider that really efficient. :o

[henk4]

Works for me. You know what's sad, I consider that really efficient. :o

it is probably what you also would get from an Merc S-Class 4.5 litre V8 CDI, plus 500 Nm of torque or more.