ultima gtr

[thinker]

http://www.fast-autos.net/ultima/ultimagtr.html ........is the price correct on that page?

[thinker]

the reason im asking this is because it seems like too much of a bargain to be 66,000 dollars. (obviously, im not too educated in the british car department)

[megotmea7]

i believe thats the price for a rolling chassis, drivetrain not included.

[GTR Dreamer]

damn, thats expensive for no drivetrain :0

[Suka]

$27,000 for a everything minus the engine and gearbox.

[Coventrysucks]

It depends, because you can use any one of a variety of engines and gearboxes, which don't all cost the same.

According to the US Ultima site: www.ultimacars.com
A complete kit costs $89,000.
Still an absolute bargain!
:)

[Suka]

It depends, because you can use any one of a variety of engines and gearboxes, which don't all cost the same.

According to the US Ultima site: www.ultimacars.com
A complete kit costs $89,000.
Still an absolute bargain!
:)
Yeah, rolling chassis $27,000.

[Coventrysucks]

What would your ideal powersource be, assuming it'd fit?
I quite like the idea of a Judd V10 or TVR's AJP12 = 800bhp+, 990kg
http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/scratchchin.gif

[thinker]

on the ultimacars site it says u need a smallblock chevy engine. duz that mean ANY small block chevy engine?

[Egg Nog]

on the ultimacars site it says u need a smallblock chevy engine. duz that mean ANY small block chevy engine?

Well, you could pretty much use any engine that you felt like swapping in (a Canadian guy put a BMW V12 into his Ultima). The 350 Chevy small-block is definately the best option though, and the car was essentially designed to use it. Lots of power, lots of potential, solid reliability, and even decent gas milage (for what it is). Add that to a package as light and well-designed as the Ultima GTR chassis and you've got yourself a demonic street machine.

A guy I know has a 1995 Ultima Sport, which is one of probably less than 10 in Canada, and it used an 350 Chev. I got to check it out (literally crawled in to the cockpit), and it was pretty insane. He revved to only 1600 with open headers and the sound matched the car perfectly. (Don't worry, he was putting the mufflers and cats on later... no car should be that loud!) :)

[Coventrysucks]

and even decent gas milage (for what it is).

Not really.
About 13mpg (imperial) is ok, but the car does only weigh 990kg

All of the American Speed engines (350, 377, 383, 396, 406, 427ci) are all based on the 350 block.
:)

[thinker]

so if you add in the 350 chevy engine, chassis, and anything else needed, about how much would the total cost be?

[Egg Nog]

Not really.
About 13mpg (imperial) is ok, but the car does only weigh 990kg

With a LS1 and the six-speed, it would certainly do a lot better than that... This, of course, is by normal highway/city driving standards, and not during on a trackday, where the Ultimas are usually found :)

[Coventrysucks]

so if you add in the 350 chevy engine, chassis, and anything else needed, about how much would the total cost be?

:rolleyes:


According to the US Ultima site: www.ultimacars.com
A complete kit costs $89,000.

[Coventrysucks]

With a LS1 and the six-speed, it would certainly do a lot better than that... This, of course, is by normal highway/city driving standards, and not during on a trackday, where the Ultimas are usually found :)

You could get even better milage if you fitted a diesel...
Volkswagen V10.

[thinker]

:rolleyes:

that's without the engine.

[Mustang]

that's without the engine.

answer: no its not


Yeah, rolling chassis $27,000.

without engine

with engine


A complete kit costs $89,000.

[Coventrysucks]

Complete /kəm'pli:t/ adj. & v.
1 having all its parts; entire (the set is complete).

[thinker]

answer: no its not



without engine

with engine

wow thats a pretty awesome deal. almost sounds too good to be true.

[Suka]

BUT you could get an Ultima with similar performance to the 0-100-0 one for a lot less i bet.

[thinker]

89,000 US Dollars??? are there any noticeable cons that the car has? (i.e. a crappy interior)...it seems like way to much of a bargain because u are getting an exotic supercar for under $100,000

[Suka]

89,000 US Dollars??? are there any noticeable cons that the car has? (i.e. a crappy interior)...it seems like way to much of a bargain because u are getting an exotic supercar for under $100,000
This is using top spec parts, if you do what most Kit Car owners do and get them second hand or cheap from a mate, you could be looking at £35,000-$62,723.
You can buy a pre-built one for that if you don't want to build it.

[megotmea7]

sorry but i was right ;)

"Ultima GTR
ROLLING CHASSIS FULLY ASSEMBLED DIRECT FROM THE UK FACTORY

COMPRISING:
Fully assembled LHD chassis finished in black powder coating
Full FIA specification roll cage
Center gear change
AP cross-drilled brakes with alloy 4 pot callipers and balance bar
Top spec fully adjustable alloy shocks
Ultima 3 piece wheels - 13" x 18" rear 9" x 18" front
Goodyear Fiorano 335 x 30 rear 245 x 35 front tires
Air conditioning and heater
Seats and dashboard covered in black Alcontara or leather
6 point racing harness with twist release
Electric mirrors
Radio/CD multi-changer 6 speaker system with remote control
Fully adjustable carbon fiber rear wing
Body painted in any single color from our range

Complete engine fitting kit to suit small block Chevrolet including -
Stainless steel exhaust system
Flywheel
Air con compressor and mountings
Twin high capacity fuel pumps with all fuel lines

Complete transaxle kit to suit Porsche G50 including -
Transaxle invert kit including transaxle mountings
Engine adapter plate
Clutch and slave cylinder
Pair of top spec drive shafts

All that is required to complete the GTR is a small block Chevrolet engine and a standard Porsche G50 transaxle.

Please note that all States have their own registration requirements and the engine selection should reflect these regs.

Price $89,000

Ultima Can-Am
ROLLING CHASSIS FULLY ASSEMBLED DIRECT FROM THE UK FACTORY

COMPRISING:
Fully assembled LHD chassis finished in black powder coating
Center gear change
AP cross-drilled brakes with alloy 4 pot callipers and balance bar
Top spec fully adjustable alloy shocks
Ultima 3 piece wheels - 13" x 18" rear 9" x 18" front
Goodyear Fiorano 335 x 30 rear 245 x 35 front tires
Air conditioning and heater
Seats and dashboard covered in black Alcontara or leather
6 point racing harness with twist release
Electric mirrors
Radio/CD multi-changer 6 speaker system with remote control
Fully adjustable carbon fiber rear wing
Removable glass windscreen and frame
Soft-top
Perspex wind deflector for real open-air motoring
Body painted in any single color from our range

Complete engine fitting kit to suit small block Chevrolet including -
Stainless steel exhaust system
Flywheel
Air con compressor and mountings
Twin high capacity fuel pumps with all fuel lines

Complete transaxle kit to suit Porsche G50 including -
Transaxle invert kit including transaxle mountings
Engine adapter plate
Clutch and slave cylinder
Pair of top spec drive shafts

All that is required to complete the Can-Am is a small block Chevrolet engine and a standard Porsche G50 transaxle.

Please note that all States have their own registration requirements and the engine selection should reflect these regs.

Price $89,000"

[Suka]

Yes but that is factory built with top spec parts, in the Which Kit Car? magazines and Kit Car mags you can get them for £35,000-$62,723. That is budget buliding still with very high performance, considering there is a place in London that sells car parts where vented racing discs cost £25.

[my porsche]

not to be rude, but you are all wrong, if you look on the prices list at www.ultimacars.com for a can am or gtr, the ROLLING CHASSIS PRICE IS $89,000 still a fantastic deal, i want to race one of these a little later on. Mybe go to le mans. If anyone has info on how to get into major racing please send me a message

[Suka]

not to be rude, but you are all wrong, if you look on the prices list at www.ultimacars.com for a can am or gtr, the ROLLING CHASSIS PRICE IS $89,000 still a fantastic deal, i want to race one of these a little later on. Mybe go to le mans. If anyone has info on how to get into major racing please send me a message
....but if you have spent 3 years following the rise of the company and following people's builds of them i am right. I know the site says different but that is using top spec parts! That price can differ from build to build! Take it from a kit car builder. You can buid a quality car for much less! I don't have "Head of the Library Of Kit Cars" in my sig because I think i know a lot!

[Coventrysucks]

I couldn't be arsed to read the entire specification, not my fault that the author of that site doesn't know the meaning of the word "complete"
Anyway $89,000 for the rolling chassis;
Base 300bhp 350ci engine $6,450
Top spec 640bhp 377ci engine $19,995

Ultima's UK site prices the G50 at $2,960, and a Getrag 6 speed transaxle at $7,620

$98,410 - 300bhp
$116,615 - 640bhp record breaker

For some reason Evo lists the GTR with 500+ bhp as only £45,500 = $81,605
Which is why I thought $89,000 for the whole thing sounded right.

[Matra et Alpine]

I couldn't be arsed to read the entire specification, not my fault that the author of that site doesn't know the meaning of the word "complete"
Don't worry, it's a common 'trick' of the kit builders to say "complete" :)
because of course they mean the kit ! THEN you have to consider donor parts and new parts. You get used to it and read carefully when you come to buy-to-build :)

[Suka]

I couldn't be arsed to read the entire specification, not my fault that the author of that site doesn't know the meaning of the word "complete"

Welcome to our world!

[Matra et Alpine]

Welcome to our world!
:) where a 'complete' kit for a LoCost can mean just a bunch of square tubes !!!

[Suka]

:) where a 'complete' kit for a LoCost can mean just a bunch of square tubes !!!
Unfortunatly! Or in the case of a Robin Hood, the complete Kit comes with some sheets of stainless that you have bend yourself!