The New "Name That Car"

[lithuanianmafia]

Since EP and DP's version of this has been dead for over a month now, I thought I'd try my own at it.

First car:

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Some Bantam X21....

[drakkie]

fiat barchetta ???

[Suka]

Quantum 2+2

[Ferrari Tifosi]

fiat barchetta ???

Exactly what I thought.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

No, its not the Fiat. Is it a concept car? I know its not the Fiat because it is RHD. All Fiat Barchettas are LHD.

[Suka]

Quantum H4!

[henk4]

Quantum H4!

Can't we never get rid of these UK 1/1 scale toys? :D They also infest the badge thread, terrible.

[Suka]

Can't we never get rid of these UK 1/1 scale toys? :D They also infest the badge thread, terrible.
*goes off mumbling (well i think they are nice, bloody non believers!)*

[Matra et Alpine]

*goes off mumbling (well i think they are nice, bloody non believers!)*
me too and doubly so since mates son just took his Quantuum round Knockhill on Friday FASTER than my A610 time :(
He was on full race slicks mind :) :)

[henk4]

but they never leave your bloody island. :D Anybody ever tohught of producing LHD kit cars? :D

[Suka]

but they never leave your bloody island. :D Anybody ever tohught of producing LHD kit cars? :D
The Libra was designd to be both! You just get different dash mouldings!

[VtecMini]

No ex* please, we're British. :)


*exports

Yeah alright. It was funny in my head.

[henk4]

The Libra was designd to be both! You just get different dash mouldings!

Didn't do much for sales over here. Can these things meet various type approval regulations?

[Matra et Alpine]

Didn't do much for sales over here. Can these things meet various type approval regulations?
IIRC now it is only necesary to get type approval in one EC country to be acceptabel in them all. So SVA it in the UK where they're used to them and then export it ready built :)

[henk4]

IIRC now it is only necesary to get type approval in one EC country to be acceptabel in them all. So SVA it in the UK where they're used to them and then export it ready built :)


But that means that the Brits should become entrepreneurial :)

[Matra et Alpine]

But that means that the Brits should become entrepreneurial :)
I'm sitting waiting, place you rorders with me and I'll provide fully built.
Only NOW the price is the same as a 'real' car.
Nobody who builds a kit car to reduce costs ever accounts for their own time.
With upwards of 200 hours, that's another 5-6000 pounds minimum :(

[henk4]

I'm sitting waiting, (

That's exactly what I meant with British entrepreneurship
:)

[Matra et Alpine]

That's exactly what I meant with British entrepreneurship
:)
tut, tut, NAUGHTY not to read the next 5 words :)

place you rorders with me

But the reality is few peopple actually buy a built kit except from a factory.
First the cost as I stated and secondly do you REALLY want to ttrust your life to the build quality of someone else :)

[henk4]

do you REALLY want to ttrust your life to the build quality of someone else :)

99.99% of cars buyers seem to do just that :)

I was more concerned about the administrative bottlenecks and the taxes that would result from importing such cars. What a factory would need are selling points abroad that could assist potential clients. The "sit and wait" attitude will not boost sales.

[Matra et Alpine]

99.99% of cars buyers seem to do just that :)
Now you know the difference :)
Assembling one thing from a poorly copied build manual is not the same as being trained to construct on a productino line !!

I was more concerned about the administrative bottlenecks and the taxes that would result from importing such cars. What a factory would need are selling points abroad that could assist potential clients. The "sit and wait" attitude will not boost sales.
Aren't we supposed to have tax harmonised in the EC now ??
There shoulnd't be :(

[henk4]

Aren't we supposed to have tax harmonised in the EC now ??
There shoulnd't be :(


Taxation is one of the as yet untouchable nationally decided issues. Income taxes are different in all countries, VAT levels are different in a number of countries, etc. Taxes are part of the national budget which is still outside the claws of the EC.

[Matra et Alpine]

Taxation is one of the as yet untouchable nationally decided issues. Income taxes are different in all countries, VAT levels are different in a number of countries, etc. Taxes are part of the national budget which is still outside the claws of the EC.
Sorry, henk, I didnt' mean the tax levels as they will continue to have some variability for a while to go it seems :(
But I thought that no nation was to have a DIFFERENT tax than another.
It was that type of harmonisation I was thinking of.
What exactly are the 'taxes' you pay when buying and registering a car for the road in Holland ?

[henk4]

What exactly are the 'taxes' you pay when buying and registering a car for the road in Holland ?

Importers establish a basic/net selling price. Then a thing called BPM (which is the dutch abbreviation for Tax voor Cars and Motorcycles) is issued, which is 45.2% of the net price. Petrol cars get 1500 euro reduction, diesel cars not.
On top of the BPM and the net price 19% VAT is lifted.
Comparison with other European net prices show that ours are one of the lowests, but the aggregate amount destroys the advantage completely.
Than of cours you'll have to pay road tax. which depends on the weight of car and again diesel powered cars are additionally charged. (taxes on diesel are comparatively low to support the trucking industry).

A private import of a kit car in kit form would go like this. You can get your kit delivered at home. You can put the car together but then it has to beregistered. The registering authority will ask you to pay the BPM before they will hand out a license plate. The basis for the 45.2% BPM will be the cost of the parts (as billed) plus 15% over the "added value" that is generated by constructing the car. (basically your own labour input) You are considered as a "small scale car manufacturer" As the kit is coming from the UK you will pay the UK VAT.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

anyone know what the car is?

[Suka]

Its a Quantum H4!

[lithuanianmafia]

Quantum H4!

correct

next:

[Delmaster]

Oh my god is this an ugly..............something

But I don't have a clue what it is.
Is it European?

[henk4]

clan crusader

[SlickHolden]

Something UK ??

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

A Bond car? not the film character, but the obscure british make?

[Delmaster]

Henk is right.
It's a Clan Crusader.
I looked it up

[lithuanianmafia]

clan crusader

clan crusader II to be exact, but we all got the idea ;)

next:

[SlickHolden]

Micro car ?

[Mustang]

thunderbird 4 :p

[Delmaster]

do you like this type of headlights? they look like those of the clan crusader.
maybe this is a little clan? :)

[VtecMini]

Looks like a Bond Bug to me. I used to deliver papers toa guy who had one of those. Loony. But someone mentioned Bond earlier. Maybe my mind is clowded by the power of suggestion.

[EvilPaladin]

Bond Bug

[UK CARS]

i prefer this 3 wheeler, much more street cred available :D
http://www.ajobikes.com/3_wheelers/trailmate2.gif

[lithuanianmafia]

Looks like a Bond Bug to me...

correct, see ur hunch was right eh?


i prefer this 3 wheeler, much more street cred available :D
http://www.ajobikes.com/3_wheelers/trailmate2.gif

well, different strokes for different folks I guess...

next:

[SlickHolden]

Old farts car 40's that's about it for me im stuffed :D

[lithuanianmafia]

Clue #1: it's russian

[EvilPaladin]

Moskvič 400 ?

[lithuanianmafia]

the manufacturer starts with a "k"

[SlickHolden]

Killberg

[lithuanianmafia]

has everyone given up?

[Suka]

Kamaz?