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IWantAnAudiRS6
09-08-2004, 09:36 AM
This thread may have something to do with the "skittle?" thread, but in "The Fast And The Furious", when Brian Spillner (aka Paul Walker) is revving up his green Mitsubishi Eclipse at the stadium (just after the first truck hijacking), what is the weird noise that the engine makes as it revs back down? It's a sort of cross between humming and buzzing... hard to put my finger on, but is really obvious. Look at the 2nd chapter on the DVD.

cuntukimushroom
09-08-2004, 11:59 AM
might be the dump valve he might be driving down a gear

megotmea7
09-08-2004, 02:17 PM
its the blow off valve, re;eases boost pressure as you come off the throtte to prevent it from surging back into the compressor after you close the throttle butterfly

my porsche
09-08-2004, 02:26 PM
what he said ^ just thought to add that the waste gate (blowoff valve) is on a turbocharger just in case you didnt know

TheOne
09-08-2004, 02:32 PM
wastegate is 1, blow-off valve is other:).

the wastegate comes before the turbo which releases gasses so the turbo doesn't spin more than what its set to(at the wastegate).
the blow-off valve, as megotmea7 said, takes out the pressure that is made at the intake after releassing the accelerator(the throttle body closes) so all the air doesn't go back to the turbo and damage it.

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-09-2004, 09:18 AM
thanks, it's a cool noise... now i've just gotta achieve it!

megotmea7
09-09-2004, 01:54 PM
need a turbo first. dont go ricer and buy the speaker thing that makes a fake bov noise, then id have to hunt you down ;)

Viper007
09-09-2004, 02:00 PM
Buy the turbo , and intercooler , and then go for the waste gate and blow off valve. That will give you something to be happy about!

megotmea7
09-09-2004, 02:14 PM
id but the turbo and wastegate first. without the wastegate you'll have no way to regulate you boost... and you'll have a broken motor;)

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-09-2004, 03:03 PM
lol! I'll have to buy it first... but I'll follow you guys advice carefully. Thanks!

85RX7
09-09-2004, 03:04 PM
i just gotta add that when brian maxes his car out for the 1st time before buying the nitrous, he goes through 7 gears!!! what the hells up with that!

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-10-2004, 01:21 AM
Errr, film editing error, because his car has a 5 or 6 speed gearbox. Or just the same shot viewed from diferent angles.

whiteballz
09-10-2004, 01:42 AM
well in the second movie, in the first race, brian walker changes up 18 times, and always has that little bit more room to push the accelorator that little bit further.

idiots!

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-10-2004, 01:46 AM
Lol!!!

85RX7
09-10-2004, 04:22 AM
he could be changing down around the corners, you cant go flat out at corners without changind down.

whiteballz
09-10-2004, 03:04 PM
we accounted for that. my nerdie friends love nit picking about car movies.

KnifeEdge_2K1
09-10-2004, 06:14 PM
lol 18 forward gears, it must be from a truck :D

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-13-2004, 01:09 PM
woteva...lol... did u guys know that the cars in the movies are actually slower than the stock cars??? The only 1 that isnt is the S2000!

TheOne
09-13-2004, 04:57 PM
they go slower in the movie.......but in real life they're not really stock.....
i saw both the eclipse and the evo from F&F2 at Dallas Auto Show about 2yrs ago or so....they had all the goodies(turbo, nitrous, etc) and they didn't look fake in any form.

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-14-2004, 05:13 AM
Wot i ment was that the cars for the movie were bought absolutely knackered, and then were modded. A magazine hooked up some recording equipment, and all the cars were slower than their stock forms...

whiteballz
09-14-2004, 02:07 PM
well guess what! the vanquish in the latest bond movie...

IT ISNT REALLY A VANQUISH! its got a ford V8, auto 3 speed box, and 4WD!!! (and guns and rockets that actualy fire!!!)

Blue Supra
09-15-2004, 08:32 PM
If you actually watch the making of 2F2F (i was unemployed and bored ok) they actually have 4 of each car, that means 4 evos 4 sypders 4 whatever
1 is the baby car, its used for all the glamour scenes ie not stunts
2 are stunt cars, guess what theyre for
1 is a rolling shell with all the bits on it but it doesnt actually go, it sits in a studio for all the green screen effects, you know where they jump the Yenko onto the boat, they filmed them in it in a studio then drove an empty car over the jump into the water, then in a car lot the ran another yenko down a line into the back of a boat, three differnt areas just to make that one scene.

GTR Dreamer
09-17-2004, 03:39 AM
oooo.
lol a truck spec skyline

Blue Supra
09-17-2004, 05:27 AM
14 forward gears hay? thats just what ricers need....

escort mexico
09-19-2004, 09:11 PM
didn't they tow the cars around on trailers in the first movie? i can vaguely remember seeing some footage of the car being towed around on a flatbed trailer with no wheels.

Matra et Alpine
09-20-2004, 04:57 AM
didn't they tow the cars around on trailers in the first movie? i can vaguely remember seeing some footage of the car being towed around on a flatbed trailer with no wheels.
yep.

Cinematography is about the art of deception.

Being physically impossible to take certain shots in REAL life, it's necessary to use mockups to get different shots. So ofet one car that features in a movies will hafve a dozen or more copies each with a different feature looking realistic for the cameras. ( It's the reason there are so many James Bond Astons and Eleanors around the world - and FF/2F2F.

Check out the making of the BMW ads based on the trasnporter for some cgreat insight into how some of that was done. For us tech-head, nerdy dweebs there's nothing better than getting the DVD and looking at the making off for a film with a good chase scene to see how it's done. 2 steering wheels was my favourite trick and lets the action look fantastic with it being the actor 'driving' the car - NOT :)

IWantAnAudiRS6
09-20-2004, 05:09 AM
Well, most of the actors would probably stuff the car into a camera/ director's chair lol! But in Bullit, Steve McQueen was meant to drive his car. He did, until he spun out, nearly hitting a cameraman (proving my point). Interestingly, the guy who stood in for Steve driving actually did the Great Escape jump stunt!