Ferrari Traitors

[escort mexico]

i was reading the other day that some guy in sydney is planning on making a ferrari drag car.....really cool. untill i read that he was planning on putting a ROTARY motor it it!!! WHAT IS WITH THAT???

[cuntukimushroom]

probolly to put the accelloration into the car that its needs to wheel spin thats a complete peice of bull

[taz_rocks_miami]

A rotary in a Ferrari??? Sacralige I tell ya!!!! Burn him at the steak!!! Nice and crispy, lol.

[jon_mutch]

would it just be a ferrari kit car?

[Deutscher Adler]

Well maybe he is smarter than we think. Maybe he just doesnt wanna deal with the constant headache of Italian motors and wants to build some crazy power out of a more reliable engine. What do you think of that one??

[Matra et Alpine]

Maybe he just doesnt wanna deal with the constant headache of Italian motors and wants to build some crazy power out of a more reliable engine. What do you think of that one??

Well considering the reliability of a certain VERY powerful engine in the Ferrari stable, nobody else is matching it :) And some of them ( Ford ) can't even get NEAR it in power !!!

[whiteballz]

rotarys are probably the best for drag imo. really light weight and from what i know, very good power figures (from some rotarys).

about the ferrari part, there is a guy down here in australia that runs a BMW shell with a rotary. i think its an 8 second 1/4 mile.

[Fabio Ferrari]

Well maybe he is smarter than we think. Maybe he just doesnt wanna deal with the constant headache of Italian motors and wants to build some crazy power out of a more reliable engine. What do you think of that one??

The reliability, hmmm, well considering that Ferrari produce a great engine both the V8 in the 360 and the V12 in the 575 both very good engines. You do know that the 360 CS has the highest power to weight ratio of any production car on the face of the earth. Now as for reliablity, in F1 i see alot of blown BMW and Mercedes-Benz engines all over the grid, as far as I can remember Ferrari has not blown an engine in the last 2 or 3 years that to me is pretty good. Well think what you want if you want to be wrong.

[Egg Nog]

rotarys are probably the best for drag imo. really light weight and from what i know, very good power figures (from some rotarys).

Not true. Rotary engines, while compact, are not really lightweight. They are definately not the ideal engine for drag racing either, because of the relatively low torque figures. For drag racing, the best always seems to be the tried and true V8. :)

Renesis mass: 130kg.
Renesis power: 230hp
Renesis torque: 159lbs.ft

LS1 V8 mass: 153kg
LS1 V8 power: 350hp
LS1 Torque: 375lbs.ft

[Coventrysucks]

You do know that the 360 CS has the highest power to weight ratio of any production car on the face of the earth.

Do you mean the engine of the 360 CS has the highest power to weight ratio?
There are 30 odd cars with power to weight ratios greater than the 360CS

/off topic

What exactly are these "very good power figures", with regards to rotaries?
I'd imagine it'd be much harder to extract big bhp and lb ft numbers from a rotary than a suitable V8.

[Blue Supra]

Id say coventrys right, while Rotaries do have their high points, one of their dissapointments is the absednce of good torque figures at low rpm. not ideal for a drag car unless you can put in a turbo set up to cover your low rpm levels, even then it not the ideal engine.

[Fabio Ferrari]

[QUOTE=Coventrysucks]Do you mean the engine of the 360 CS has the highest power to weight ratio?
There are 30 odd cars with power to weight ratios greater than the 360CS

/off topic

What exactly are these "very good power figures", with regards to rotaries?
I'd imagine it'd be much harder to extract big bhp and lb ft numbers from a rotary than a suitable V8.[/QUOTE

Of any car being built today, the engine has the highest power to weight ratio. I do not understand why you always have to clarify my posts, because you know that I know alot about Ferrari.

[Coventrysucks]

Of any car being built today, the engine has the highest power to weight ratio. I do not understand why you always have to clarify my posts, because you know that I know alot about Ferrari.

I don't "always" clarify your posts.
As far as I am aware, I corrected you on the fact that the Enzo wasn't the first car to use carbon ceramic brakes, and this thread, where I wasn't sure if you did mean the engine or the whole car.

Since you do know so much about Ferrari, perhaps you could tell me what size/ weight the engine from the 360CS is. :)

[werty]

And some of them ( Ford ) can't even get NEAR it in power !!!


thats not true...Ford has alot of cars as fast or faster than ferrari's

[Blue Supra]

thats not true...Ford has alot of cars as fast or faster than ferrari's

Such as....?

[taz_rocks_miami]

Such as....?


The Ford GT and even though it's not made directly by Ford, the Saleen S7, it's powered by a Ford 427 Big Block. And coming soon (fingers crossed), the New Ford Shelby Cobra and Daytona Coupe.

[Blue Supra]

Got figures for those? the saleen looks nice. :)

[jyi1693]

rotary on a ferrari?crazy!!!! :confused:

[Fabio Ferrari]

I don't "always" clarify your posts.
As far as I am aware, I corrected you on the fact that the Enzo wasn't the first car to use carbon ceramic brakes, and this thread, where I wasn't sure if you did mean the engine or the whole car.

Since you do know so much about Ferrari, perhaps you could tell me what size/ weight the engine from the 360CS is. :)

Alright it is very simple 360 means 3600cc which mean 3.6L, it is Naturally aspirated 90o 425bhp 5 valves per cylinder V8. Does that answer everything you need to know mate :)

[Blue Supra]

Alright it is very simple 360 means 3600cc which mean 3.6L, it is Naturally aspirated 90o 425bhp 5 valves per cylinder V8. Does that answer everything you need to know mate :)

Smartarse ;)
I love it :D

[Coventrysucks]

Alright it is very simple 360 means 3600cc which mean 3.6L, it is Naturally aspirated 90o 425bhp 5 valves per cylinder V8. Does that answer everything you need to know mate :)

I was thinking along the lines of physical size i.e. length, width, height and weight.
Thanks anyway.




And some of them ( Ford ) can't even get NEAR it in power !!!

thats not true...Ford has alot of cars as fast or faster than ferrari's

I think he was talking of F1 engines.

[Matra et Alpine]

thats not true...Ford has alot of cars as fast or faster than ferrari's

Wasn't "certain Ferrari" enough of a hint thsat I meant the F1 engine ?
Do I need to write it out in long-hand ?????

It was the F1 engines. Jaguar is a joke and nobody wants a Ford engine even if they supplied it with 2 barge poles :)

[Coventrysucks]

It was the F1 engines. Jaguar is a joke and nobody wants a Ford engine even if they supplied it with 2 barge poles :)

Jaguar F1 is no more from next year.
It will be re-branded as Ford F1, because Ford isn't getting enough publicity from Jaguar.

[Matra et Alpine]

Jaguar F1 is no more from next year.
It will be re-branded as Ford F1, because Ford isn't getting enough publicity from Jaguar.
have you seen that confirmed, Coventry.
Last I'd heard was that it would be end of September before an announcment but that Ford wanted it that was as they will be mejor sponsor next year.

Now if only they concentrated and focussed and took immediate action to make the team good then they would have plenty of sponsors !!!!

[Coventrysucks]

have you seen that confirmed, Coventry.

There were a couple of guys from Cabair at the MTC who were talking about it.
I don't know where they heard it. They seemed pretty sure it was happening though.

It doesn't sound too outlandish to me.

[Matra et Alpine]

It doesn't sound too outlandish to me.
They don't have a good record of success :)

In fact you could argue since the "Ford corporate" took over Stewart team it's been downhill since. There idea of a solution to that, seems to be to take more control and recognition. Hmmm, we'll see :)

It takes PASSION to lead in F1.
Why I tihnk we're seeing the demise of McLaren and Williams who are more interested in other activities.
Ferrari have and always will have the passion for F1 and Dave Richards is bringing HIS passion in and making a difference.

[de_michelis]

:confused: Maybe a lot of concept or racing cars, but purelly Ford road cars (not just de engines) how many of them are?