what is the fastest real production car?

[CdocZ]

someone asked me "what is the fastest real productionc ar ever?" by "real production car", he means nothing like the callaway sledgehammer, or anything that is exclusive to the insanely rich who are also good friends with that companies executives. also, if possible, i could use a link the cars site (english only please)

[McLareN]

Koenigsegg has received a Guinness Record for the most powerful production car in the world. Koenigsegg (CCR) is replacing the Mclaren F1 for this record!
Christian v. Koenigsegg said he is happy that Guinness has recognized the CC and that he will strive for the official top speed record as well.

http://www.koenigsegg.com/news/index.asp?news=48&page=3&type=news

[CdocZ]

ok....wasnt it 247?
also, my friend brought up the bugatti veyron, but wasnt it not as fast as buggati wanted it to be, so they moved back the release date?

[McLareN]

ok....wasnt it 247?
also, my friend brought up the bugatti veyron, but wasnt it not as fast as buggati wanted it to be, so they moved back the release date?

Maybe the Veyron will never hit full production, because of some problems with the aerodinamic of the car, because Bugatti wanted the Veyron to reach 450 kph, and Volkswagen is tired of spending money and time with the Veyron project, so if it will hit production (most improbable) only in the next years. Plus the prototype weights more than 2 tons.

[CdocZ]

woah........thats really heavy for a supercar.

[GTR Dreamer]

are u sure your friend brought a veyron? they are like $1,000,000 USD, and guys he did say that a car that isnt too expensive!

[GTR Dreamer]

o, my mistake....he didnt buy it after all...:(

[CdocZ]

yeah, he didnt buy one, lol. he is 14, that would be scary! no, he just brought it up in our conversation

[Chinky_boi]

but the koenigsegg speed records are all estimates. The true test that ever tested is the Mclaren F1 that hit 241mph.

[my porsche]

the ccr has like 850 hp, and a higher hp to weight ratio than the mclaren so it should beat it

[Chinky_boi]

the ccr has like 850 hp, and a higher hp to weight ratio than the mclaren so it should beat it
all the ccr needs now is a test track that is long enough, IT can use the one that the mclaren used. and it is 806hp.

[Bladerider]

Horse power to weight has very little to do with top end matey.

Best you opt for some physics lessons whilst at school and learn something.

J.

[Sweeney921]

at the moment, the fastest tested street car is the McLaren F1. However, the Dauer 962 Le Mans has been tested by computers to reach 250 mph. It's also the record holder for the quickest 0-60 time (2.6 seconds). Many supercars have never had their top speeds tested, so right now your answer is the McLaren F1

[CdocZ]

2.6.........thats not bad, very good considering it wasnt tuned (was it?)

[funkmastaT]

Doesnt the Panoz LMP-1 roadster S have the fastest 0-60(2.3 sec.)It also has a 0-100 time of4.4 seconds. But it "only" has a top speed of 181.

[CdocZ]

thats a le mans racer, and i highly doubt its street legal.

[Sweeney921]

2.6.........thats not bad, very good considering it wasnt tuned (was it?)
It has a twin turbo flat 6 engine, is that considered tuned to you?

[kko]

Wasnt the Bugatti a big flop?
never heard what happened to it

[CdocZ]

tuned for me means its been.......played with since it came out of the factory. not like the normal version you would see in magazines, or wherever

[my porsche]

the dauer lm 962 are cars that actually raced in le mans, then this complany called dauer (imagine that) made them street legal, and a two seater, they only made the engine more streetable, not any more powerful or anything, so no, it is not tuned

[CdocZ]

woah.......probably expensive as hell tho.........god i want something like that

[my porsche]

they run about a million dollars, only 13 or 12 have been converted, they come with a book on your cars specific race history, very awesome, there is an article in a past excellence for any of you that read it (i do, but im a porschephile!)

[CdocZ]

veerrrry coool

[my porsche]

i know, wouldnt mind one if i had a mil lyin around, unfortunatly, im not old enough to have a steady job, so no chance

[CdocZ]

lol, im 15 (61 DAYS TILL I GET MY PERMIT!!!!!!!!!OOOOOOOHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAH!)
and when i start driving.......im gettin the slowest car i have ever known of (for an american car). its an old mercury sable....untuned

[my porsche]

dude do you know how pimp a TUNED sable is? the regular ones are pimp as hell, but the tuned ones? samn, thats a sleeper!!!ITS PANDELERIUM TWO THOUSAND AND FOE!!

[CdocZ]

going at 3 mph!lol.........id rather have a viper, but my parents say they wont buy a car that is nearly 3 times as much as the g35 sedan we have now (its ONLY 80k......lol)

[my porsche]

haha nice, you could get an infiniti g35 coupe! hint hint nudge nudge, or just go all our and get..........

The Snoop DeVille!

[jcp123]

take it from me. You don't want that kinda power yet. It's good to have a sh1tbox. I'm only 19 so I remember how crappy a driver I was...with any more than the 130hp I had, I'd have killed myself.

[PerfAdv]

someone asked me "what is the fastest real productionc ar ever?" by "real production car", he means nothing like the callaway sledgehammer, or anything that is exclusive to the insanely rich who are also good friends with that companies executives. also, if possible, i could use a link the cars site (english only please)

Check out the cars here:
http://www.fast-autos.net/topspeed.html

What type of production numbers or price would make it a "real production car"?

[Matra et Alpine]

Check out the cars here:
http://www.fast-autos.net/topspeed.html

What type of production numbers or price would make it a "real production car"?
Those numbers in fast-autos are ull of the estimated figures put out by manufacturers and that's just BS.
Looks like they're also missing cars that don't get featured in mags or imported to the USA so there are lots of 'sleepers' out there :)

So some numbers are wrong and some cars are missing. Pretty pointless list then :) Don't you just love the web !!!! :confused:

[PerfAdv]

Those numbers in fast-autos are ull of the estimated figures put out by manufacturers and that's just BS.
Looks like they're also missing cars that don't get featured in mags or imported to the USA so there are lots of 'sleepers' out there :)

So some numbers are wrong and some cars are missing. Pretty pointless list then :) Don't you just love the web !!!! :confused:


What is a good site? It would be great to have an established source for UCP users. Somewhere to quote facts and figures from.

[Matra et Alpine]

What is a good site? It would be great to have an established source for UCP users. Somewhere to quote facts and figures from.
If you ever find one .... :)

Web sites have the same 'pressures' as magazines today.
The big list, the fastest times, the highest figures attract readers. So there is a drive to be optimistic and to use computers to estimate top speed based on power and weight - completely ignoring aerodynamics and traction !!!

[fpv_gtho]

the fastest "normal" car i know would probably be the commodore, theyve been taken up to 270km/h

[Turbonutter55]

Would've been the TVR Speed 12. It would cost GT3 money, but had 900hp!!! It was so fast that the company were too scared of it making its way onto public roads to release it (and this is TVR!)

[CdocZ]

ok.....i basically have what i need now. and another thing that would be good to establish.....is a page full of set definitions for things like real production car. i say a real production car can be something from a normal everyday car, to something like the enzo. what isnt, is something where you are A)incredibly rich, and B), you know someone high up in the compnay (meaning, more then like.....50 cars will be made)

[Bladerider]

So you dont consider an Enzo owner needs to be rich to own it then !! lol

Personally,

A "real" production car would be one sold under usual homologation rules, and maybe set the limit to £200,000 on cost.

That would eliminate the "hyper" exotics such as the Pagani, Koeniggsegg, Mclaren, Enzo etc..................and leave you with cars you have at least a remote chance of seeing on the road occasionally, like the Murcielago, 612, GT2 etc.

Perhaps a little less outrageous, but also a little more like a real car............................something you could actually drive occasionally without needing a long session at the masseurs, or halve the value of it, or require a complete engine rebuild !!

My vote would be for a big bad Diablo 6litre !!

J.

[Coventrysucks]

Completely stock, straight from the factory (after being run in at least).
Proving that the mantra "Keep it Simple" is true once again.

Ultima GTR
641bhp
0-60 2.7s
0-100 5.5
0-150 11.9

Top speed of well over 200 mph (204 verified on a 1.8 mile runway, geared for 230)

And only a tiny fraction of the price of the Koenigsegg CCR, McLaren F1 and Dauer 962

Doesn't need expensive servicing, parts are fairly cheap, doesn't need specialist mechanics charging you £1,000/ hour labour rates (you can build the damn thing yourself FFS!)

Not sure if it qualifys as a "production" car though

[CdocZ]

production....not an "extreme machine" or whatever. i am not talking about speed or cost, i mean cars that are exclusive to just a few people who have connections+the money for the car. like a koinigsegg is a production car. if you have the money, and you want one, you can get one(there probably is a waiting list tho). for limited run, if more then 100 are made, id say it was a real production car. if 20 or so are made, like the original carrera gt1, i would say that is a real car, but not a real production car

[PsychoChimp22]

WOWA- The CCR and do a standing 1/4 in the nines?!?!?!?

[CdocZ]

hennessey added some things to a viper, it can do it in the 8s, barely, but still, and it costs ALOT less (like 250k vs. the ccrs massive 8foot long price tag)

[CdocZ]

ok, the a-hole who asked me this question brought up 2 cars, the daur thing mentioned earlier, and the vector w3x (i think thats what it was) please tell me how many of each were produced, and sold to the public

[16-4Veyron]

hennessey added some things to a viper, it can do it in the 8s, barely, but still, and it costs ALOT less (like 250k vs. the ccrs massive 8foot long price tag)

What do you mean "some things".... they added 600 horsepower....

[CdocZ]

ok, yeah, the might as well have completly redone everyhting except the block in that engine

[F1_Master]

Hopefully, if ever, the Veyron will be produced and will be blasting past that speed. But from what I've heard, the top speed has been lowered. Boo!

[Turbonutter55]

ME 4-12!! They might make a coupla thousand of them, in which case it would be priced around your limit. 0-60 in 2.9, 0-100 in 6.2, quarter mile in 10.6 at 142, and on to 248 mph.

[CdocZ]

ok......price isnt a limit. the limit is how many produced. there are not even 20 hennessey venoms around the world, but thats only because it takes along time to build and all. NOT because they are only selling themto people who know mr hennessey (but its tuned, so it isnt a real production car)

[Mustang]

the koenigsegg CCR at 250mph :):)

what a car :D:D

[Coventrysucks]

the koenigsegg CCR at 250mph :):)

what a car :D:D

If it isn't proven - it doesn't count.

[RS6]

A TVR Typhon would be a good idea. 500bhp+, about 1 tonne to throw around, will be under £100k, should hit 60 mph in 3.5 and go on to over 200 mph.

Oh, and that record breaking Ultima isn't their flagship model. They have developed a 406 cu.in V8 developing 720 bhp and the chassis is said to support anything up to 1000 bhp. :D

[my porsche]

i hope im not the "a-hole" who brought up the dauer, they made 12-13 so far by the way! about the vector, ugly scam cars, supposed to go 230-ish mph, went 151mph, *COUGH*scam*COUGH*

[CdocZ]

oh, no, you arent, dont worry porsche. this guy lives right in front of my friends house.

[Mustang]

A TVR Typhon would be a good idea. 500bhp+, about 1 tonne to throw around, will be under £100k, should hit 60 mph in 3.5 and go on to over 200mph


Its got Enzo performance, well maybee not quite as fast round corners, because it has no AND, no traction controll, no limited slip diff :D:D

and i think its £80,000 do thas a good £360,000 cheaper than the enzo was :) what a car :p

[Turbonutter55]

In real, legally usable terms (0-60) an ME 4-12 is faster than a Veyron or Koenigsegg. It has a top speed only a couple of mph slower, and will be more common.

[CdocZ]

yeah.......but at the moment, neither the me4-12 or the veyron are in production. so stop bringing them up. they arent in production, and the question is about cars that are in production.

[*****_**_*_****]

someone asked me "what is the fastest real productionc ar ever?" by "real production car", he means nothing like the callaway sledgehammer, or anything that is exclusive to the insanely rich who are also good friends with that companies executives. also, if possible, i could use a link the cars site (english only please)


I think that by saying "the fastest real production car" you must determine it a little bit... the word "faster" doesn't really mean something of it's own...
faster in what? acceleration? cornering? braking? time in a piste? I think that the summing up the overall questions the car must be the mcLaren F1...
that's my opinion... send me a reply if you think I am wrong at any point...

[Esperante]

thats a le mans racer, and i highly doubt its street legal.

However there is a street version GTR01, which is a hardtop LMP1.

[darkhorse302001]

The Panoz LMP-1 Roadster S does have a lower Top End than the McLaren but flies on the 0-60 (2.3 Sec) still these are all in$anly priced cars. Dreams are nice but what is the quickest car between $150-125K would be a better question

[CdocZ]

ok.......we are getting off track/dont understand the question. ill restate it. looking for fastest proven top speed. more then 50 made, no price limit, stock from factory