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Chinky_boi
10-13-2004, 07:39 AM
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/4404/100066.jpg
2006 SVT Cobra test mule

The engine of this beast will come from the Ford GT. The 5.4 V8 supercharged. There will also be the Cobra R coming back out. The output power will be between 450hp-500hp because it will be a detuned GT.

So I am guessing the Cobra will have 450hp and the Cobra R will have 500hp

There will be also the SE mustang joining into the mustang lineup. Ford is still thinking about the GTR concept.

PerfAdv
10-13-2004, 08:21 AM
Great output numbers!! I hope they don't put that hood into production as it'll obscure, in a big way. If they can keep the price down, this may be the beginning of a musclecar revival.

cuntukimushroom
10-13-2004, 09:27 AM
urrr... hideous bonnet. alltough a great car

taz_rocks_miami
10-13-2004, 11:46 AM
450 to 500 HP!! That's a Mustang I'd consider buying!!

jcp123
10-13-2004, 02:36 PM
Impressive. I'd hate to get it serviced though...

FordGT
10-18-2004, 08:39 PM
If they do make an R, I hope they make it in other colors besides Rio Red LOL

2k3GT
10-19-2004, 11:12 AM
And you got this info where?

I'm pretty sure it was announced that there would be no SVT version of the 05 Mustang until 07. And besides, that photo looks like it was photochopped, I saw a picture exactly like it (placement, angle, paint scheme, etc.) of a GT w/o the cowl hood.

Chinky_boi
10-19-2004, 04:32 PM
And you got this info where?

I'm pretty sure it was announced that there would be no SVT version of the 05 Mustang until 07. And besides, that photo looks like it was photochopped, I saw a picture exactly like it (placement, angle, paint scheme, etc.) of a GT w/o the cowl hood.
the ford mustang forum. The guy who gave the info is also the same guy who first told us how much horsepower the Ford GT was going to have and he was correct.

werty
10-19-2004, 08:09 PM
i went to the dealer last night to stake out and watch for the incoming mustang's, but they werent in yet, its supposed to be some time this week i beleive, when it does ill take pics :cool:

TheOne
10-19-2004, 09:16 PM
sometime this or next week!, my bro allready saw some around the streets, tho i haven't been able to catch 1, do have seen C6's around.
as far as i know there should'nt be a cobra till probably '06.

hotwheels
10-22-2004, 06:57 PM
i can't wait till ford does a new body style cobra R, not just the cobra......if i had my way and money, i would purchase a 2000 cobra R. It runs about 40k, which is alot for a poor man.............oh, hello everyone, my name is hotwheels, i am from turborides.com.........great site you guys have here........later, hotwheels

whiteballz
10-22-2004, 07:22 PM
no SVT version of the 05 Mustang until 07.


nice to see we can go back in time (or forward)...

the 05 model wouldnt get revived in 07 for an R model? would it?

04MysticCobra
10-28-2004, 07:07 PM
If you guys need to know when the new SVT Cobras will be out, they plan to hit the floor sometime early 2007. Which means they will start production in 2006. Haven't heard to much on the Power it will have, but somewhere along the line of over 400rwhp stock. Ouch....that will put a bite on those new slow Corvettes...haha!

Slicks
10-28-2004, 08:15 PM
If you guys need to know when the new SVT Cobras will be out, they plan to hit the floor sometime early 2007. Which means they will start production in 2006. Haven't heard to much on the Power it will have, but somewhere along the line of over 400rwhp stock. Ouch....that will put a bite on those new slow Corvettes...haha!
07 eh? By then im sure the vette will be more powerful than the current C6, and im not even going to mention the Z06... Either way the vette will beat the cobra on the track like always :p

Chinky_boi
10-28-2004, 08:33 PM
07 eh? By then im sure the vette will be more powerful than the current C6, and im not even going to mention the Z06... Either way the vette will beat the cobra on the track like always :p
well the 05 saleen s-281e already has 500hp so EH!

Niko_Fx
10-28-2004, 08:47 PM
well the 05 saleen s-281e already has 500hp so EH!

500HP in the Mustang vs 500HP in the Vette Z06....

The Corvette has better aerodynamics and less weight.

IF the C6 Z06 comes out with a 500HP 7.0L engine as some say then Cobras can forget about being comparable to them when stock.

fpv_gtho
10-29-2004, 02:45 AM
Your a bit crazy to compare a Vette and a Mussy in the first place though.....they were never intended for it and stil arent....

But for the R, i thought SVT always wanted them to be naturally aspirated or something, so maybe the new 6.2L MOD will be stretched out a bit for it, thats due out in 2006

Falcon500
10-29-2004, 04:51 AM
Your a bit crazy to compare a Vette and a Mussy in the first place though.....they were never intended for it and stil arent....

But for the R, i thought SVT always wanted them to be naturally aspirated or something, so maybe the new 6.2L MOD will be stretched out a bit for it, thats due out in 2006
If they only wanted them na then why are the current ones supercharged?

But all in all you r right itsa silly comparison pony car vs sports car....just doesnt add up but the fact the mustang does fairly well considering the diffrent classes speaks well for it no? ;)

fpv_gtho
10-29-2004, 04:53 AM
Well the last Cobra R in 2000/2001 had the 5.4 stretched to 390hp, the engine FPV wanted for the GT....but the last SVT Cobra made 390hp from the supercharged 4.6...im thinking maybe if the new Cobra takes like a supercharged 5L whilst the R will take a 6.2 DOHC

Falcon500
10-29-2004, 05:09 AM
Well the supercharging theme seems to work i cant see why theyd stop...that essentially was my point...but if they can make a worthwhile replacement then why not?

The thing that really has me curious is why they arnt dropping DOHC engines in the gt muzzo im shure they could come up with and approprite downtune so people wouldent be detterd from there highup models....probly costtrying to keepthe base v8 as base as possible.

fpv_gtho
10-29-2004, 05:13 AM
yeah i dare say the $$ difference between the 3V and 4V heads are significant enough. I always thought though the Cobra R was marketed as a road racer type of car, something that'd be ready to hit the track straight away so i guess naturally aspirated fits that bill a bit better than forced induction

Niko_Fx
10-29-2004, 05:15 AM
Yep the Cobra R had almost the same amount of power of the SVT but being naturally aspirated. That's one beast right there.

Falcon I don't think they'll stop supercharging upcoming Cobras, maybe just the R as before.

Slicks
10-29-2004, 06:02 AM
well the 05 saleen s-281e already has 500hp so EH!
Got any proof? From what i read it has 400hp and 420ft-lbs of torque.

Chinky_boi
10-29-2004, 07:01 AM
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/anashow04/anashow1.htm

Under the hood of every S281 is a high-performance 4.6-liter V8 engine. In the 3-Valve model this engine produces 325 horsepower. In, the supercharged S281 SC the horsepower leaps to 400. And for the S281 E, which will be introduced next spring, the engine produces a mind-boggling 500 horsepower. Now you know why the E in the name stands for Extreme.

Slicks
10-29-2004, 09:33 AM
http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/anashow04/anashow1.htm

Under the hood of every S281 is a high-performance 4.6-liter V8 engine. In the 3-Valve model this engine produces 325 horsepower. In, the supercharged S281 SC the horsepower leaps to 400. And for the S281 E, which will be introduced next spring, the engine produces a mind-boggling 500 horsepower. Now you know why the E in the name stands for Extreme.
Sry i was talking about the SC, not the E, but i still doubt the E will have 500hp, the 04 one has something like 430-450.

PsychoChimp22
10-29-2004, 11:41 AM
That hood it ugly, they should have just opend it up for the ram air look.

jcp123
10-29-2004, 09:32 PM
That hood it ugly, they should have just opend it up for the ram air look.

I agree. I don't like cowl hoods that much.

taz_rocks_miami
10-29-2004, 10:25 PM
Sry i was talking about the SC, not the E, but i still doubt the E will have 500hp, the 04 one has something like 430-450.

500 HP isn't that big of a stretch if you think about it. Roush has a 550 HP Ford 427 available for the Mustang and Ligenfelter a 510 HP 427 Chevy for the GTO. If Saleen wants to stay competetive they better up the HP in the S281-E to 500.

Both of these engines are normaly aspired BTW, add a supercharger or twin turbos and you better hold on to your head when you hit the gas!!

F1_Master
10-29-2004, 11:08 PM
I'd expect a Corbra, but I don't know about a Cobra R. The Cobra R was built for a special occasion.

fpv_gtho
10-29-2004, 11:08 PM
that sounds about what the CSV Mondo GT gets (510hp), its a tuned version of the Monaro witha 370kw, 6.8L LS1 i think.....maybe SlickHolden knows more :p

Niko_Fx
10-30-2004, 05:41 AM
500 HP isn't that big of a stretch if you think about it. Roush has a 550 HP Ford 427 available for the Mustang

Are you talking about the 05 model? If so, I much rather drive a Saleen with less power... The Roush is hideous.

Here's a pic :)

taz_rocks_miami
10-30-2004, 11:43 AM
Are you talking about the 05 model? If so, I much rather drive a Saleen with less power... The Roush is hideous.)

I prefer the Saleen's look also, if it were me, I'd get the Saleen body kit and the Roush 427, best of both worlds:)