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henk4
10-27-2003, 01:47 PM
This is a Valiant P3, which appeared at a Supersport Race in Zandvoort, Holland in 1987. As year of build was given 1968, and it had a 1600 cc engine which did not want to run properly during the weekend making the car terribly slow. It was run by a German driver. I assume that it named P3 because of its resemblence to the Ferrari P3. Nowhere on the holy web I can find any info on this car.

megotmea7
10-28-2003, 01:32 AM
i find nothing, mystery car...

DasModell
10-28-2003, 08:43 AM
sorry i don;t know a thig about it .. but i will check with some friends .. :) :)

henk4
10-28-2003, 02:16 PM
I made a mistake, the thing is actually called a Vanguard P3, (I quoted from my memory, Mr. alzheimer), but it still remains an unknown quantity.

DasModell
10-29-2003, 10:08 AM
i hope that why noody knows anything about iy .. :)

henk4
10-29-2003, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by DasModell
i hope that why noody knows anything about iy .. :)

Well, it did not matter if I searched for Valiant or Vanguard, the web gave zilch info, so I am really dependent on what comes out of this request.

DasModell
10-29-2003, 10:45 AM
i've asked the peoples from ten-tenths ... i have no other ideea .. yet ....

henk4
10-29-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by DasModell
i've asked the peoples from ten-tenths ... i have no other ideea .. yet ....

thanks, efforts are much appreciated

DasModell
11-02-2003, 09:07 AM
news .. don;t know if it is any good ... but i say check it out

a membet of ten-tenths said this

"It looks similiar to a Causy P3 that was made in either Illinois or Indiana in the middle 1960's. Apparently 2 were made. 1 is still in the US and I have seen the 2nd 1 for sale on a German website. Could this be the car you have pictured. If I remember the 1 for sale was white."

henk4
11-02-2003, 09:24 AM
Thanks, might be a clue, but I would be surprised if the Amercans would use a 1600 cc engine.

I investigated further and noted that at that particular race in 1987 the car was entered by a German called Helmut Reuscher. I found out that he is still involved in historic racing activities, and subsequently sent him an email asking for further info and made a reference to this site, but up to now he has not responded.

Anybody here with connections to Helmut Reuscher??

HRT_Racer
11-12-2003, 08:19 AM
henk This is all that I could find

Causey P3
Bj. 1968
Ford/Lotus Twin Cam Motor mit 1300 oder 1600ccm, Hewlandgetriebe. Rennsportwagen aus USA Kategorie H Gewichtsklasse 480 Kg. Rennfertig mit FIA Wagenpass, guter Zustand.

Click HERE (http://www.motorsportboerse.de/deutsch/fahrzeuge/rennsportfahrzeuge2s/causeyP3/causeyP3.shtml)

hope it helps :)

DasModell
11-12-2003, 09:03 AM
ohh . yaeh .. it does look alike .. :)

henk4
11-12-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by HRT_Racer
henk This is all that I could find

Causey P3
Bj. 1968
Ford/Lotus Twin Cam Motor mit 1300 oder 1600ccm, Hewlandgetriebe. Rennsportwagen aus USA Kategorie H Gewichtsklasse 480 Kg. Rennfertig mit FIA Wagenpass, guter Zustand.

Click HERE (http://www.motorsportboerse.de/deutsch/fahrzeuge/rennsportfahrzeuge2s/causeyP3/causeyP3.shtml)

hope it helps :)

Well that solves it, the link you give leads directly to Helmut Reuscher, whom I mentioned previously. Still no idea why in the race I saw it participating it was listed as a Vanguard P3. Probably the organisers hadn't a clue either.

Thanks guys for all the efforts.