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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725846]When did I ever say a car was "better" because it sold for a lot of money?[/QUOTE]
Nowhere. But you started comparing a massive Cadillac something or other with a Volkswagen Bus, back in post #132. Quite an unfair and silly comparison if you ask me. From then on it just degenerated and ended up in a comparison of expensive classic cars.
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725842]
What a waste of money! I could buy a lot of '50s and '60s American cars for that money.[/QUOTE]
as well as a good second hand crude oil tanker...
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[QUOTE=Ferrer;725848]Nowhere. But you started comparing a massive Cadillac something or other with a Volkswagen Bus, back in post #132. Quite an unfair and silly comparison if you ask me. From then on it just degenerated and ended up in a comparison of expensive classic cars.[/QUOTE]
And some people say [I]I[/I] have a short memory!
I was comparing the acceleration figures of the VW Bus (and VW Karmann) to the Camaro those guys on Top Gear were criticizing. Cadillac wasn't mentioned at all regarding that.
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[QUOTE=henk4;725850]as well as a good second hand crude oil tanker...[/QUOTE]
With $24 million, refueling would hardly be a problem. I would need just as much fuel if I spent the money on certain exotic sports cars which get about the same mileage.
BTW, I can't find a record of any Mercedes being sold for $24 million. I did find the (1931) Bugatti Type 41 being sold for $8.7 million.
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[QUOTE=Ferrer;725845]I'm just following your nonsense arguments see if you realise how stupid they are.
I found it [URL="http://www.channel4.com/4car/ft/feature/feature/188/4"]here[/URL]. Unfortunately it doesn't give any details other than the car and the price.[/QUOTE]
The price of the Mercedes in mentioned in this link...
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725853]With $24 million, refueling would hardly be a problem. I would need just as much fuel if I spent the money on certain exotic sports cars which get about the same mileage.
BTW, I can't find a record of any Mercedes being sold for $24 million. I did find the (1931) Bugatti Type 41 being sold for $8.7 million.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to a crude oil tanker....a real one....there are also other things you can buy for 24 mln...
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[quote=Fleet 500;725783]Too dangerous for those type of cars which lift a tire while cornering. ;)[/quote]
First ... a car is lifting an inner wheel because it is cornering very quickly.
It's NOT because it's "bad".
Certainly NOT "dangerous" -- unles the driver is a numpty :)
So you definately would get a limo round the corner without lifting a wheel but it woudl be 30+mph slower than a car on the limit when it lifts a wheel. Limos dont' lift wheels because of simple lever mechanics and mass - ie they lose grip before sufficient force is present to lift it !!
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725851]And some people say [I]I[/I] have a short memory!
I was comparing the acceleration figures of the VW Bus (and VW Karmann) to the Camaro those guys on Top Gear were criticizing. Cadillac wasn't mentioned at all regarding that.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes it was. It seems you didn't understand it then. You might as well watch the video, altough I don't know if you'll find it funny... :p
And even with the Camaro, it still was a preposteorus comaprison.
[QUOTE=nota;725630]Oh man that episode cracks me up ;)
"fantastically slow"[/QUOTE]
This comment was made in reference to the post quoted below. It's James May who says it and it's in reference to the Cadillac he bought.
[QUOTE=jediali;725621]I say again, James May's Cadillac
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMWZx8N6RWk&mode=related&search=[/url]
(1 min. in)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725842]What a waste of money! I could buy a lot of '50s and '60s American cars for that money.[/QUOTE]
Word.
I like my Focus, but I keep noticing all the little things about new cars that pushed me away from them in the first place. I'm not considering anything newer than a '62 Chevy for my next car.
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[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine;725859]First ... a car is lifting an inner wheel because it is cornering very quickly.
It's NOT because it's "bad".
Certainly NOT "dangerous" -- unles the driver is a numpty :)
So you definately would get a limo round the corner without lifting a wheel but it woudl be 30+mph slower than a car on the limit when it lifts a wheel. Limos dont' lift wheels because of simple lever mechanics and mass - ie they lose grip before sufficient force is present to lift it !![/QUOTE]
If a limo goes around the corner 30+ mph slower, that's fine with me! I'm not in any hurry, anyway!
And I already know why limos don't lift wheels.
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[QUOTE=jcp123;725930]Word.
I like my Focus, but I keep noticing all the little things about new cars that pushed me away from them in the first place. I'm not considering anything newer than a '62 Chevy for my next car.[/QUOTE]
'62 Chevy? Good choice. Certainly better than something like a new Acura or whatever.
I've got a road test of a '62 409 Chevy somewhere. It had a few modifications, like headers and I think a balanced and blueprinted engine.
With those mods (and running a 4.56:1 rear axle ratio) and weighing 3,500 lbs, it ran a 4.0 second 0-60 mph and a 12.2 sec @ 112 mph 1/4 mile.
(Car was tested by Car Life magazine.)
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[QUOTE=Ferrer;725860]Oh yes it was. It seems you didn't understand it then. You might as well watch the video, altough I don't know if you'll find it funny... :p[/QUOTE]
I understood perfectly what I was saying. If those Top Gear guys thought the Camaro and Cadillac accelerated slow, I could refer them to dozens upon dozens of '60s and '70s Euro and Jap cars which would really crack them up. Of course, being non-American cars, they would probably praise their "acceleration!"
[QUOTE]And even with the Camaro, it still was a preposteorus comaprison.
This comment was made in reference to the post quoted below. It's James May who says it and it's in reference to the Cadillac he bought
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As I said before, they should have tested a real Camaro, like a '69 Z/28 or a 427 Yenko Camaro (good for 11s in the 1/4 mile) and a late-'60s high-compression, 375-hp Cadillac. Now those would have impressed them (even if they didn't admit it).
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[QUOTE=henk4;725856]I was referring to a crude oil tanker....a real one....there are also other things you can buy for 24 mln...[/QUOTE]
An oil tanker? I'd rather buy other things for $24 million. Like a nice, big mansion (preferably haunted) or maybe an island.
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725974]An oil tanker? I'd rather buy other things for $24 million. Like a nice, big mansion (preferably haunted) or maybe an island.[/QUOTE]
I just wanted to quote another nonsense example besides your american cars:D
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[QUOTE=Fleet 500;725973]I understood perfectly what I was saying. If those Top Gear guys thought the Camaro and Cadillac accelerated slow, I could refer them to dozens upon dozens of '60s and '70s Euro and Jap cars which would really crack them up. Of course, being non-American cars, they would probably praise their "acceleration!"[/QUOTE]
At least they didn't have massive, ineficient engines though.