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24 hours of Daytona
Heres a cupla pixs I did from last years race, but if ya want to go to my website and click on either of these pictures there you can get updated info on the Race right now !
We have posted links to Grand Am, Speed TV and our reporters at the race are sending back new pictures & info every hour which are posted up on the sports car page in the website.
Enjoy the race !..I am !
BTW I put a new pix of the red Corvette up there too ! (first pix on home page)
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Heres a new on from racing action today :
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could you post some photos of some of your art in physical form. for instance, a 48 by 72 inch canvas print as you offer on some of your works. or maybe a picture of the many vinyl wraps youve produced and sold at dealerships. or maybe the custom GTO that you sell for $55,000.
[IMG]http://stingraysstudios.com/images/gto2redo.jpg[/IMG]
or the nascar HHR that costs 45000 dollars.
[IMG]http://stingraysstudios.com/images/stingrayshhr1024.jpg[/IMG]
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THERE YA DID IT FOR ME !
We are building these cars at present...
Tho I should take out the GTO, cuz we sold that one already to a guy in Palm Beach.
But we can make another one so,...working on a G6 GXP design right now tho.
The dealership designs are coming online this year with participating GM dealers.
Also we will have "standard" designs in auto parts stores nationwide this year too.
Heres a pix of the paintings for ya (in the Sheltair Jet Terminal at Daytona Speedway);
and another pix from 24 hrs of daytona too;
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Is this you on the second pic?
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LOL..yep thats my ugly mug !!!
heres the direct link to sports car page on my site Speed TV has closed coverage until 6 am, we will have all the update info as it happens all night long !!!...;
[url]http://stingraysstudios.com/Sports_Car_Racing.php[/url]
Hope you all are enjoying the race, here is another "chop" from tonite, I have reporters there sending data and pixs and I am chopping as fast as I can, hope ya like 'em anyway !
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Next update at 3 am heres another pix I just finished :
[I](can you tell this is my Fav race ?)[/I]
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Oh and I am selling this Canvas soon too, it is a duplicate of the painting At Daytona, right now it hangs in my dining room, it is of 2 Motorcycle racers in a turn at the Daytona race track.
Original sold for $2,500.00, this one should go for the same or more now !!...;) :
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Hey remember dudes...these are ALL "chops" I am doing as i get them, not actual photos of the action at Daytona, tho they are derived from real pixs taken at the race today & over the past days leading upto the event. As far as i know right now for instance the Ford #19 is NOT in the garage tonite, that pixs was taken a few days ago, but I "chopped " it tonight....more pixs to follow as the race goes on, then I will end this thread.
Hope you all can enjoy this little "tour de force" !!!
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^^^^ THX, sorry tho we sold it already !!!
hey look, I am doing these chops and will post up the orig pixs after the race is finished so you all can see exactly what i have done here to each picture, right now I gotta keep at it tho...ENJOY !!!!
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Allright here we go, this happened at 3 am, Mazda Rx-8 #70 spunout on the mainstraight, just after a yellow flag restart for another spinout in the rain....and THX to all of you as we have had the biggest day on the website to date looks like over 6000 people so far, from the time we started doing these "live" race chops and providing coverage of the race...THX.
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I'll buy the last one for $20,000.
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[QUOTE=Rockefella]I'll buy the last one for $20,000.[/QUOTE]
You are too kind...
I know this is old, but this was just the prefect occasion for me to say this...
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LMFAO!!!!!!
Congratulations though, i don't know how you do it, but you must be some kind of con-man to get people to buy the shit you call art work....
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yeah, Im a friggin master artist remember !!!....hey its all about making the connection to real people, the ability to deliver something new and unique that gives them a kick in the pants, and that they can relate to.
Of course presenting these the way I did was unprecedented, nobody else has the "guts" to do "LIVE"
chops of a race as it is happening, I keep tellin you all it is all about INTENT & CONCEPT...you can be the best artist in the entire world and if you dont know how to make it REAL for people, it wont matter at all. You wont even be famous after you die, cuz nobody will have given a damn.
Art is NOT just about making pretty pictures, or even technical skill,it is about turning people on inside to themselves, by presenting an ICON that allows and inspires them to do so.
The LAST thing it is about is Impressing yourself or others.
NOW that is what I define as HUMBLE. ....and this is the way I exhibit that quality. I just put it all on the line and do what I do, no fear, no excuses, no doubt & no BS.
That is professional grade PERFORMANCE !
speednine;
Why would you think of it as a "CON"...???? Thats such an arrogant comment.
because YOU would not do it ?..or cant?...or because you think the images are less than your perfect standards (yeah right)....have I even seen a chop from YOU ?
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Oh boy ..I can see 'nother shitstorm brewing here again!!!
LOL
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[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]
Art is NOT just about making pretty pictures, or even technical skill,it is about turning people on inside to themselves, by presenting an ICON that allows and inspires them to do so.
speednine;
Why would you think of it as a "CON"...???? Thats such an arrogant comment.
because YOU would not do it ?..or cant?...or because you think the images are less than your perfect standards (yeah right)....have I even seen a chop from YOU ?
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Sounds like a crappy excuse for a crappy artist. the funny thing is, most artist are crap and can call anything art.
You won't ever see a chop from me, why? because i suck at the computer and know where my talents are, i don't try to pass off a golden turd as art. You on the other hand polish many turds. Maybe you should move on to car salesman, sounds like you are good at selling things though.
EDIT; By the way, ill say anything i want to you or can get away with on this board, and without anything to back it up. Why? because i can. I may be arrogant but i won't lie to you, your art sucks, and you ahve less then a handful of mediocre art.
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LOL....AND YOUR A REAL [size=1][edited][/size] TOO !
you forgot to post that, but I think it is pretty clear by what you did post anyway !
So you cant chop, think All art is crap, yet feel compelled to respond to mine !...lmao, I love it !
BTW for all of the rest of you who actually like what we did, [I]and are obviously in the Majority of viewers if not posters here[/I], [U]WE ARE DOING IT AGAIN[/U].
Starting with speedweek at Daytona and all weekend of the Daytona 500 we will be posting the
"Live" Racing Art from all the NASCAR races at Daytona !...along with live links to NASCAR & SPEED TV so you can track the action from our site & see the new pictures of the action as it happens, ....and THX again for making our 24 hour race presentation a HUGE HIT !!!
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If...
you "guys" actually sold a GTO that looked like that one on your site,which I highly doubt,would you mind posting a REAL picture of it.I mean if I owned a business that did that Id want people to see the real work my "company" can do.Also,if you are recieving the photos from photographers that arent paid by your "company" and modifying them to make a profit isnt that copyright infringment?You have photos on your "companys" site from SeriousWheels.com.,NetCarShow.com...etc.Are those websites recieving monetary compenration for providing you with the base of your "art"?Also if you havent sold the HHR on your "companys" website please take a picture of it so we all can see your "companys" abilities.Im sure it will be sold or un-available for photography about the time you read this but please try.Also what type of licensing do you have to use Dale Earnhardt Jr.s likeness to sell a vehicle?Just curious from a business standpoint.
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[QUOTE=just_a_doodz]you "guys" actually sold a GTO that looked like that one on your site,which I highly doubt,would you mind posting a REAL picture of it.I mean if I owned a business that did that Id want people to see the real work my "company" can do.Also,if you are recieving the photos from photographers that arent paid by your "company" and modifying them to make a profit isnt that copyright infringment?You have photos on your "companys" site from SeriousWheels.com.,NetCarShow.com...etc.Are those websites recieving monetary compenration for providing you with the base of your "art"?Also if you havent sold the HHR on your "companys" website please take a picture of it so we all can see your "companys" abilities.Im sure it will be sold or un-available for photography about the time you read this but please try.Also what type of licensing do you have to use Dale Earnhardt Jr.s likeness to sell a vehicle?Just curious from a business standpoint.[/QUOTE]
I bought his paintings for $1,000,000 and a car for $500,000 because they're the best!
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^^^^ yes we license ALL of the pictures used to make works that we sell. Not that it is any of your business, nor can I disclose that information here obviously, likewise the cars we sell are to private parties and it is thier choice to display photos or not at this time. The HHR is in the development stage right now, but I will be happy to post a "build up" thread as we go along if thats what you would like to see ? Because it is a new model (Panel Van) we have not taken delivery of it yet, and it will be used all year as a show car before we release it to a new owner.
I can do that for you tho if you want, as that car is being done for promotional purposes anyway. THX for asking.
Um Rocky...I ain't got your check YET !!!!
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[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]^^^^ yes we license ALL of the pictures used to make works that we sell. Not that it is any of your business, nor can I disclose that information here obviously, likewise the cars we sell are to private parties and it is thier choice to display photos or not at this time. The HHR is in the development stage right now, but I will be happy to post a "build up" thread as we go along if thats what you would like to see ? Because it is a new model (Panel Van) we have not taken delivery of it yet, and it will be used all year as a show car before we release it to a new owner.
I can do that for you tho if you want, as that car is being done for promotional purposes anyway. THX for asking.[/QUOTE]
You don't have ANY pictures of a completed car?
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I was...
[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]^^^^ yes we license ALL of the pictures used to make works that we sell. Not that it is any of your business, nor can I disclose that information here obviously, likewise the cars we sell are to private parties and it is thier choice to display photos or not at this time. The HHR is in the development stage right now, but I will be happy to post a "build up" thread as we go along if thats what you would like to see ? Because it is a new model (Panel Van) we have not taken delivery of it yet, and it will be used all year as a show car before we release it to a new owner.
I can do that for you tho if you want, as that car is being done for promotional purposes anyway. THX for asking.
Um Rocky...I ain't got your check YET !!!![/QUOTE]
Expecting an answer just like that sad to say.And Rockefella no they dont have any pictures because of this and that and blah blah blah...Where are you getting the Panel version from?G.M.? Its not a production vehicle so Im sure you guys will have to pay a very large amount for it.Then "wrap" it...lol...then add the liscensing from Dale Jr....must just be to get the Stingray Studios name out there.A publicity stunt.Id LOVE to see the buildup of it.Also did you sell the GTO concept just like the picture or was it a plain old GTO that you guys "wrapped".Again buying a concept vehicle from G.M. would be very expensive.Just curious.
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^^^ understand this, we are a new company and the GTO was the only car we did, and I cannot show pictures of it anymore because the right to do that was sold with the car, OK ? Thats one reason the price was so steep, another was because it was a NEW CAR, had lots of custom work, inside and out, it looked like the picture and well...sorry I cant help you out on that now as it belongs to somebody else.
The HHR is different, and I will be happy to do that as we go along on it, as we intend to use it as a show car for one year anyway and it will be photographed alot !! We have an arrangement with GM that enables us to "purchase" cars and resell them with GM warranties intact following our customizing work. Basically we are an Art Studio, but GM is very good to us as we are promoting thier cars and trucks in a positive and exciting manner. That is ALL I can tell you.
Meanwhile here is another show car we want to build, tho obviously it will be a little further down the raod before we can do this, but it is definately in our plans to do so and we are working on designs for a Pontiac G6 GXP that we expect to get soon as well as the HHR and a Corvette Z06 !...ALL of these will become show cars for our Race Tour 2007. Where we will actually "Paint" a car in front of a live audience with various drivers from NASCAR and other racing series "competeing" against me, ....each of us doing one side of the car !!!
Of course it is a Show, and is all in fun...But thats what we do !!...and it sells Art & Cars.
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Im not sure...
how many people on Ultimatecarpage.com have either googled this guy or looked him up on Yahoo.Just do it for fun.He has been...(cant say IS because he gets banned frequently) a member of...dodgeforum.com,cheersandgears.com.,carchops.com.,streetfire.net.,photoshopchop.com.,photoshopedup.com.,...and many others...posting MANY "artistic"posts.I must say it is VERY cool that a distinguished artist/business man like yourself has so much free time.Cant wait to see the HHR build up.
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doodz....part of our marketing strategy has been to reach out via these fourms to the public and promote our ART, our websites and our automotive products. I am the front man, so I do that.
Even if you personally dislike some of the pictures or disagree with me personally, thats OK as it still promotes our site, of course another thing that was our intent was to find and deal with adverse reactions and overcome them as part of our presentation.
What we decided was that a direct confrontation was the best way to benefit from such comments, as it produces interest and is entertaining as well for the General website audiences.
So in a way, your doubtful comments are only helping to lend more creditability to our business, tho I am pretty sure you did not intend for that, in spite of whatever you may think the facts prove out my posts and show that indeed we are doing and producing exactly what we represent and back the claims made in such posts.
Now of course this tactic causes problems for some people who are less open minded about things in general or for those who insist that I play by thier rules, which I am not too apt to do. So, yeah I leave or get banned from a site, (actually three so far..LOL) but those sites are useless to me anyway, and more than half the members there supported what I was doing anyway, and pm me all the time in support of my actions, So it was the mangagement that was just looking for an excuse, and they made one up against me and thats that. No Big deal.
Most of the sites I am STILL a member of and contribute to each of them all the time.
...and the really funny thing to you will be that I am well recieved on ALL of them Now.
I am who I am and I do what I say I am going to do.
My business stands behind me on all of this.
...and THX....oh but wait a minute, lemme SHOW you exactly what I'm talking about (this will probably drive you nuts too)...but I do this kind of thing when other people ASK me to work with them or help them on these other sites that you mentioned, as it is part of my "JOB" to do so because it does create new business for the studio.
Here you'll LOVE this one, & not my design either !!! drawing in the corner was the "other" guys picture.
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[quote=MRDETROITMETAL]doodz....part of our marketing strategy has been to reach out via these fourms to the public and promote our ART, our websites and our automotive products.
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May I suggest that it is time to stop, then.
The forum is NOT provided for "free" parasitic marketing programs.
Please, remove all your links, by all means continue posting your pics but no more reference to your site please.
If you wish to do proper "professional" promotion and marketing then Wouter will be more than happy to discuss fees with you.
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[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine]May I suggest that it is time to stop, then.
The forum is NOT provided for "free" parasitic marketing programs.
Please, remove all your links, by all means continue posting your pics but no more reference to your site please.
If you wish to do proper "professional" promotion and marketing then Wouter will be more than happy to discuss fees with you.[/QUOTE]
I Have talked with Wouter, and let me say this, I am NOT the one who Constantly brings up my business ventures here at all. There seems to be a fasination with what I do for some reason here, all I do IS post a picture, the rest is done by the posters here and NOT me.
So...How many times have I asked them NOT to bring my business into the posts here ?....practically EVERY thread after they did that on their own. DON'T BLAME ME, I just answered their questions the best I could to explain it.
There is Nothing parasitic about it, I was just being HONEST. I think that is a FAIR assessment of fact here. Also in fair exchange right now, my site carries a direct link to this site, so if their is an exchange of viewers that is the free choice of each individual and that is all. I am NOT posting here to make money, or even to get opinions for my business per se, but there is an entertainment value inherent in Every Site that cannot be denied.
There will soon be an opportunity to do a promotion with this site however and I will be contacting WM to layout the entire relationship Very Soon as we have had preliminary talks concerning, so you see;
[U]AGAIN[/U] by YOUR post I have to EXPLAIN MY business here ONCE MORE !!
...or I could just be RUDE and Ignore you all ???
I think it would be a lot better if people here simply ACCEPT what I do and leave it alone, look at my pictures and comment ON THEM, as I have asked repeatedly.:rolleyes: ...rather than concerning themselves with ME or my motivations here, which should be of no consequence at all !!!
I do not understand how that is unreasonable to expect.
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[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]I Have talked with Wouter, and let me say this, I am NOT the one who Constantly brings up my business ventures here at all. There seems to be a fasination with what I do for some reason here, all I do IS post a picture, the rest is done by the posters here and NOT me.
So...How many times have I asked them NOT to bring my business into the posts here ?....practically EVERY thread after they did that on their own. DON'T BLAME ME, I just answered their questions the best I could to explain it.
There is Nothing parasitic about it, I was just being HONEST. I think that is a FAIR assessment of fact here. Also in fair exchange right now, my site carries a direct link to this site, so if their is an exchange of viewers that is the free choice of each individual and that is all. I am NOT posting here to make money, or even to get opinions for my business per se, but there is an entertainment value inherent in Every Site that cannot be denied.
There will soon be an opportunity to do a promotion with this site however and I will be contacting WM to layout the entire relationship Very Soon as we have had preliminary talks concerning, so you see;
[U]AGAIN[/U] by YOUR post I have to EXPLAIN MY business here ONCE MORE !!
...or I could just be RUDE and Ignore you all ???
I think it would be a lot better if people here simply ACCEPT what I do and leave it alone, look at my pictures and comment ON THEM, as I have asked repeatedly.:rolleyes: ...rather than concerning themselves with ME or my motivations here, which should be of no consequence at all !!!
I do not understand how that is unreasonable to expect.[/QUOTE]
Who brought up your business in this thread spammy??
[URL="http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=661198&postcount=1"]http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=661198&postcount=1[/URL]
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^^^ ya know AGAIN ..that was done as a Free Choice entertainment thing, and it was done for FUN not Money and we are doing again too for the Daytona 500, it does NOT make me money to do that either, matter of fact it COSTS me to do it. I do it because I LOVE AUTO RACING and to share that enthusiastic emotion with anyone else who simply wants to LOOK at MY PICTURES. You cant BUY those pictures during the event, we dont sell them that way, it is FREE ! As matter of fact, you cant buy those pictures yet even today !!!...and you wont be able to until I complete all the needed things to do so.
I don't see that as being at cross purposes here at all, considering that all this "chop forum" is about is LOOKING at pictures of cars !!!...and That is the ONLY time I offered a reason to come to my site if you want to, but that is a benefit to this site as well as cross traffic increases on both sites as a result. Freedom of Choice is all that is. OTHER sites had a much more reasonable response to that thread too...and not One mention of my Business did they make either !!!;
[url]http://forums.streetfire.net/showthread.php?t=15386&page=2[/url]
Obviously the VIEWERS here and elsewhere appreciated the opportunity to watch someone Make pictures as the race happened, and LOOKING cost them nothing ! So how can you consider that spam, when all it is really is a chance to see some new pictures, just like here.
So, still NO more comments on the PICTURES huh ?
Amazing.
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[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]^^^ ya know AGAIN ..that was done as a Free Choice entertainment thing, and it was done for FUN not Money and we are doing again too for the Daytona 500, it does NOT make me money to do that either, matter of fact it COSTS me to do it. I do it because I LOVE AUTO RACING and to share that enthusiastic emotion with anyone else who simply wants to LOOK at MY PICTURES. You cant BUY those pictures during the event, we dont sell them that way, it is FREE !
I don't see that as being at cross purposes here at all, considering that all this "chop forum" is about is LOOKING at pictures of cars !!!...and That is the ONLY time I offered a reason to come to my site if you want to, but that is a benefit to this site as well as cross traffic increases on both sites as a result. Freedom of Choice is all that is.
So, still NO more comments on the PICTURES huh ?
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It's still considered as spam you know?
I guess you don't understand that don't you?
A mod has already asked you to remove the links to your site.. still you have not done that...
And I have no comments to your pics.. And I believe it's for the best that I keep it that way. And for your information: You are not to decide what or where I can post in this forum. So I can post whatever I want in "your" thread.. Why don't you create your own forum on your own site?
There you and all your fans can be one happy family:)
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^^^Say whatever you like here, post whatever you want and I will do the same. End of story. I have stated my reasons, which is more than you are willing to do, and it stands as is....why should I remove a link when I have a link to here on my site with consent ????
And for your information we do have started our own forum as well, thank you. So I think that it is best for me to ONLY respond to comments on my pictures from this point forward, as I have asked and asked for you all to do as well.
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[QUOTE=MRDETROITMETAL]^^^Say whatever you like here, post whatever you want and I will do the same. End of story. I have stated my reasons, which is more than you are willing to do, and it stands as is.[/QUOTE]
Can you interpret that for me?
I'm a bit tired..
What is [I]your[/I] reasons?
More/sales?
Reasons for posting pictures?
Reasons for posting loong excuses and explanations?
And do you want a reason from me?
Why I bugger you?
Is that so hard to understand?
Edit: saw your edit, and cheers.. thx bai..
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[quote=MRDETROITMETAL]doodz....part of our marketing strategy has been to reach out via these fourms to the public and promote our ART, our websites and our automotive products. I am the front man, so I do that.
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Look ... my first post on the subject was in response to that comment.
A comment where YOU clarified YOUR purpose for being here.
A purpose IN YOUR OWN WORDS which is clearly to promote your products, art adn website.
That is SPAM.
You have been asked nicely to correct that error.
SOmethign many other spammers NEVER get the chance to do - they are immediately BANNED.
Your chops will interest a number of UCPers and you have been given the benefit of the doubt on your posts. Go remove the spamming links and pointers and it's forgotten about.
Don't .... and well ...... you know how we treat spammers.
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Fine.
As it was Never my Intent but to SHARE, and if you insist upon being so closed minded then I will be more than happy to remove the link, But I wont be so small as to treat this site and WM the way you choose to treat me nor will I allow your childish attitude to interfere with any further realtionship with this site or WM. Tho I know he is more than capable of speaking for himself, I find it very unprofessional of you Mr Alpine, to insist and behave the way you are here, nevertheless I have no problem with your request, just your attitude and others here who seem unable to mind thier own business.
I am sure that this is of your own accord, so if it pleases you to exert an influence in this manner, then so be it.
Though it does nothing to further your status in my book.
But thank you for the consideration, I do appreciate the respect in regard to my contributions here. Thank you. I can only hope that this will put an end to the type of posts I have had to read that show little concern for the effort or ability demonstrated in each, and that it will finally return a focus to those pictures instead of the apparently self centered remarks as have been posted recently.
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EDIT; By the way, ill say anything i want to you or can get away with on this board, and without anything to back it up. Why? because i can. I may be arrogant but i won't lie to you, your art sucks, and you ahve less then a handful of mediocre art.[/QUOTE]
Alpine...THIS is exactly the type of comment I am speaking of...I find that attitude much more offensive than ANY free link to my site could ever be, and if something should be removed or banned THAT IS IT !!:rolleyes:
I have removed ALL the links and related data related to my site that I was able to do.
Nice to know that THAT kinda of post you support here.
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MrD, you shoudl read your posts from the start.
And btw I dont' think your art is particularly good.
Very crude in places, you have an excellent marketing position for your art tho and I commend you.
You can't really complain about speednine's comments on your "art" -- aftera ll you came here to ask for feedback and comments. Don't get too upset that some will NOT find it very good. Astounds me that you think it worthy of removal or ban - he only did what you asked :)