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F1 2016
New thread for the year because why not.
Big news first is that there will be an elimination deal happening for Q3, apparently someone gets knocked out every 90 seconds? I guess they found a job for Maldonado after all.
[quote=Sniff]Formula 1 has revealed first details of a new qualifying format for the 2016 season which is claimed to make Saturdays fun for children of all ages.
Under the proposed new format, all the drivers drive round and round the track until the music stops. The last one to cross the line is then ‘out’ and this continues until someone has won a kazoo.
The remaining drivers then move on to Q2 where they must drive as quickly as they can whilst approaching a drawing of a donkey upon which they must pin a tail. Furthest from the correct spot in each turn is then sent to sit on the side of the room and watch, preferably without crying.
For the final part of qualifying, all remaining drivers must drive very quickly to find a good hiding place somewhere around the circuit. The last one to be found is the winner.
All drivers can then return to the pits for lashings of Tizer and cake.
‘Smashing!’ said Claire Williams, jauntily.[/quote]
[URL="http://sniffpetrol.com/2016/02/24/f1-announces-elimination-style-qualifying/"]Source[/URL]
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I don't understand the new qualifying system.
Also, the Mercedeses are racking up more kilometres than when they tested the new E-Class.
And Honda has found a way to not break down aparently.
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Ferrari and Red Bull looking sharp so far. One supposes Mercedes is holding something in reserve and getting big miles on the odo must be making other teams nervous.
On command Ferrer, you made the Honda PU asplode.
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[quote=Fake Charlie Whiting]We're going to start 2016 with the old Qualy format & switch to the new format in Spain because that's how the pinnacle of Motorsport works.[/quote]
Because best in the world.
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Benzo looking good in some variable conditions. I'll tip Hamilton for the win (out on a limb there, eh?).
Force India seemingly sharp early, and in testing.
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[I]The new qualifying system is an utterly brilliant idea.[/I]
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Why did I sit down and watch that? It surely won't last.
The new format got me thinking about the old methods - the 1 hour do your best, and the single flying lap that I used to remember.
The most exciting is probably how it was most recently. I would like to see unlimited tire use in qualy, but other than that, it was good how it was.
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It's confirmed to be back to last year's for Bahrain. It was ok in Q1 and Q2, although unnecessary, and an utter farce in Q3.
I agreed to go out to lunch today before I remember that I would miss the race by doing so. I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to be disappointed by this turn of events.
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[quote=pimento;1014680]It's confirmed to be back to last year's for Bahrain. It was ok in Q1 and Q2, although unnecessary, and an utter farce in Q3.
I agreed to go out to lunch today before I remember that I would miss the race by doing so. I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to be disappointed by this turn of events.[/quote]
Welp, so much for that idea.
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Lucky one for Alonso. :eek:
Of course it sucks when you have to be so unlucky to get your luck...
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Alonso's crash was utterly massive indeed. One of the commentators on Spanish telly noted that had he had the Halo on his car he would've most probably not been able to get out.
Other than the three tyres available made for interesting strategies. Grosjean did very well with the new Haas and Verstappen should learn to calm down a bit.
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I felt like it was a bit of a strange one. Frustrating to see some lines forming at times in the race.
Max acted in a stupid and childish way; leave that kinda talk for behind the doors. If you are frustrated by your team mate, you have to pass him, as hard as the track may make it.
Grosjean and Haas with a great result. Very impressive. That is big money in the bank for them. I thought they'd do better than they were given credit for, but that was a homerun.
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Melbourne is getting a bit of a history with out-of-place finishes. Recall also Webber finishing in 5th (?) with Minardi that time.
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A very entertaining race. Passing throughout the race from 4th position to the back of the pack, every car looking racey - even the Manors! (barring the Force Indias). Lots of aggression, great defence, strategy, multi-turn passes. Bahrain 2016 is why I put up with still watching F1.
The only thing you could ask for would be more action for first, but you can only wish, right?
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Welp, that sure was a Sochi F1 race. Besides Vettel getting punted twice and the medium tyre being a total cock-up for RBR, that wasn't much of anything.
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No it wasn't, and China last week, like Bahrain, was a cracker.
Well you win some and lose some.
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How does Hamilton get away with passing 3 or 4 cars on first lap while [B]"exceeding the track limits"[/B] by staying on the throttle and going around the outside of the bollard, and then not giving back those places? He clearly had "all four wheels" outside the lines, yet nary a mention of giving back those places during the safety car laps.
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Because most of the cars he passed were in the middle of crashing into each other, then the ones that weren't Vettel pitted. There wasn't a place to give back.
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What a race. Undoubtedly helped by both Mercs crashing into each other on the first lap, but still.
Also today we have had confirmation of what we already knew, we have a future World Champion.
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Indeed, Max has a great future, it seems. Enjoyed his calm driving today (although was hoping that Kimi would grab that win).
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I was aggravated at how tight the damn circuit was, as I usually am. The strategies for Dan - and Seb especially - left me scratching my head. An incredible result for Max. It was impressive he and Kimi didn't let the tires fall off, and surprising Seb and Dan didn't catch up.
There was a brilliant moment on the Sky coverage where Brundle told Seb to stop whining after he moaned about Riccardio being too aggressive.
Shut up Sebastian.
EDIT: Saddest/angriest driver of the day award goes to Daniil Kvyat. He got screwed.
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Was Ricciardo deliberately left with a worse strategy so that Verstappen (and Red Bull...) would make the headlines?
Also, I doubt Kvyat will be able to recover from the downgrade.
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[quote=Ferrer;1015099]Was Ricciardo deliberately left with a worse strategy so that Verstappen (and Red Bull...) would make the headlines?
Also, I doubt Kvyat will be able to recover from the downgrade.[/quote]
No, there's no way that the power that be thought the 3-stopper wouldn't win out, not with Vettel being on same. Having the other driver on a 2-stopper was a bet hedger, which would have changed had indications indicated that to be a good idea early on.
Agreed.
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Welp, that was a pretty meh Not Particularly European F1 race.
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What I'm surprised about is that nobody crashed and there were no Safety Cars at all...
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Yea the commentary team was remarking on that too.
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[quote=ringle;1014987]How does Hamilton get away with passing 3 or 4 cars on first lap while [B]"exceeding the track limits"[/B] by staying on the throttle and going around the outside of the bollard, and then not giving back those places? He clearly had "all four wheels" outside the lines, yet nary a mention of giving back those places during the safety car laps.[/quote]
So, I will ask again after Mexico: How does Hamilton get away with an eight to ten car advantage by cutting through the grass after locking up and missing both turns one and two? Had he come back on track before turn two he surely would have been behind Nico and possibly other cars. Max makes the same move later in the race and is penalized. Hamilton clearly gained a huge advantage and yet again it went unpunished.
(I think there will be some more stringent rules on "Track Limits" starting from Brazil next week.)
On Lance Stroll: Word has it that his billionaire father has spent in the neighborhood of $80,000,000 to get his son to this point in his racing career. Is this what F1 has become? I sure hope it is not the future of F1 drivers.
On Vettel: What an absolute dickhead. Multi-millionaire spoiled brat that can't cope with being in a semi-competitive car. Go drive a Manor or even a Haas and then report back. Totally unacceptable comments toward Charlie. I think he should have been given a two-race ban and sat out the rest of this season.
On Ross Brawn: I can only hope he hires on with FOM and replaces Bernie as soon as possible for the good of the sport.
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I saw that too, some people were arguing about the rules with cutting the track. You have to demonstrate a clear advantage via gains in position. The argument there was that he technically didn't gain positions, therefore he punishment shouldn't be pursued. Also, he was avoiding a wreck, so maybe there's some justification there?
I'm not familiar with rules and regulations of F1, so I can't really comment on that, but even if he didn't gain any positions, he certainly gained a lot of time that way. At the very least he should have driven through the pits as a penalty.
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I think Lewis Hamilton is a big complainer, so I don't like him.
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What a race by Verstappen in Brazil. If only Redbull hadn't ****ed up the strategy so badly...
Also, F1 drivers should man up.
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[quote=Ferrer;1015667]What a race by Verstappen in Brazil. If only Redbull hadn't ****ed up the strategy so badly...
Also, F1 drivers should man up.[/quote]
The strategy was the only thing that allowed him to race like that. Having new wet tires was what gave him the ability to pass cars. Otherwise he would have probably been second and not passed another car with the used tires he had on.
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Switching to inters in the first stop was a bad decision though.
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Hamilton really stopped at nothing to show just how petulant he can be this evening, and Rosberg showed just how well he can not overtake anyone or really apply much pressure at all really to take the world championship. Good wrap up to the season really.
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Red Bull failing at the startegy, Raikko being disappointing and Vettel frustrated.
Nice summary indeed.
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I did not see the whole thing. Hamilton acted in a way that made the most sense for him to win. He is an idiot, but Rosberg is a less talented idiot who won because Hamilton's engine gave up in Malaysia.
I didn't want to see Rosberg win, but give him props; he kept pace with Lewis all season.
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[quote=Kitdy;1015829]I did not see the whole thing. Hamilton acted in a way that made the most sense for him to win. He is an idiot, but Rosberg is a less talented idiot who won because Hamilton's engine gave up in Malaysia.
I didn't want to see Rosberg win, but give him props; he kept pace with Lewis all season.[/quote]
Lewis lost because he could not perfect the new start procedure. Standing starts are a major part of F1, and Lewis just could not cope with this years rules on the single clutch.
Apparently next year there is a proposal for standing starts after every safety car, which should bring more interest, more collisions and more action.
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I'm not suggesting that Hambone's tactics were petulant (you wanna be a world champ, you gotta drive like one), he could have just been significantly less whiney about the whole thing is all.
To his credit, he had a good showing on the podium. The radio chatter through the latter portion of the race on the other hand..
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[URL="http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/newly-crowned-champion-rosberg-retires-from-formula-1-856112/"]So, the link is busted, but apparently Rosberg is retiring now[/URL].
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A class act indeed. Going out on top is never a bad decision. :)
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[quote=Ferrer;1015853]Weird decision.[/quote]
I'm not sure why you'd retire when you're in your early 30s too, but Jackie Stewart also retired when he was 34, although it was probably because F1 was dangerous back then more than anything else. Not that F1 isn't dangerous still though, just that it's significantly safer now.