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UCP Supercar II
Hi guys,
I was thinking lately, that it might be nice to do another supercar-project, smilar to the one three years ago, but this time a bit more professional.
We could stick to the way the manufacturers design complete vehicles and use proper designs,calculations and whatever is needed in the progress.
The scheme I think is best to use is this:
[img]http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=229208&stc=1&d=1170610187[/img]
I have been learned this is similar as to the way the manufacturers work.
I was thinking we might be able to form groups to handle each of these departments, to everyone's likings and skills.
If possible we could perhaps created a full 3D-CAD model of our own UCP-Supercar ! That seems like a very cool prospect,right ?
I am very curious what everyone thinks and if we can get this running ! Post your initial idea's,suggestions and whatever else comments you got here. Can I/we count YOU in as well ?
Hopefully we will all learn something of this and have a great time doing it :)
S.
First Edit:
Include Chassis in the lowest part of the diagramme.
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I am in!:)
...my key interest is in the engine/driveline departments but I still like to see how almost everything else comes along. Personally I don't know what type of car we would be designing but I would hope that it is either a lightweight track car (road legal of course) or a good GT. Both would be considered "supercars".
I don't really care what fuel source is decided on but I still think that diesel deserves a chance in a super GT. Heck with todays technology we could probably figure an interesting track car using diesel...
Hopefully those envolved can be counted on to maintain an amount of respect for all others and try to get this rolling as smoothly as possible.
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Shouldn't there be some consideration given to the chassis? It sounds certainly interesting.
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Dibs on being the official driver.
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If more than one person is going to be working on a particular section, a "technical director" or whatever you want to call it should be consider. So for example, if 5 people are working the driveline they should all report to the Driveline Technical Director. The technical director would then report to the project manager.
The project manager should have visibility of the entire project but shouldn’t have to micromanage each component.
I also think that Styling/Design should be moved below the Complete Car, but that may not be the way it is done.
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[QUOTE=Rockefella]Dibs on being the official driver.[/QUOTE]
Dibs on tampering with the car so it mysteriously crashes and blows up.
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[QUOTE=johnnynumfiv]Dibs on tampering with the car so it mysteriously crashes and blows up.[/QUOTE]
DIAF.
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[QUOTE=Rockefella]DIAF.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you would, but maybe the crash would kill you first?
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this could prove intresting
i would like to have a say in the design
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[QUOTE=johnnynumfiv]Yes, you would, but maybe the crash would kill you first?[/QUOTE]
I don't think he can be killed.
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[quote=Mr.Tiv]Shouldn't there be some consideration given to the chassis? It sounds certainly interesting.[/quote]
Sorry. Include that.
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Count me in. But since my knowledge of engineering is close to none and my drawing skills are non-existant, I'd like to be in the product-planning department.
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I'd help but I don't see PIMP on the org chart :D
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[quote=Alastor]If more than one person is going to be working on a particular section, a "technical director" or whatever you want to call it should be consider. So for example, if 5 people are working the driveline they should all report to the Driveline Technical Director. The technical director would then report to the project manager.
The project manager should have visibility of the entire project but shouldn’t have to micromanage each component.
I also think that Styling/Design should be moved below the Complete Car, but that may not be the way it is done.[/quote]
I can agree with that :)
The guys from complete car, need to make sure that every proposed thing will fit in the total package. My teachers gave examples from the development of the Volvo 480. They made a plastic body, without realising that the radio would have no receive. These things complete vehicle has to prevent and manage. Quite the challenge.
I personally volunteer to play project manager,if everyone agrees ?. Perhaps I can have a chat with my teacher and ask him for advice,help,tips and whatever more on the progress. He worked in the industry until last year so he has plenty of experience.
Perhaps the project groups, need to make a short report of their progress every time or something ?
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Just a short thank you on all the enthusiasm allready guys ! This seems to take off well :)
Since this is also the thing I study for this it really interests me. Offcourse doing this alone is virtually impossible. Thank you all and may we create a beautiful vehicle !
In 7 days time I will publish a list of evryone that is in. Then we can also discuss our first ideas and the packaging and stuff. I'll do a few packaging designs so we can discuss and choose one version.
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[QUOTE=drakkie]
Perhaps the project groups, need to make a short report of their progress every time or something ?[/QUOTE]
Definitely, you are going to need regular updates from each team. That is something that should be outlined in the schedule.
The schedule along with the design requirements are one of the first things that you may want to define. However, before you can complete either of those you are probably going to need to form the teams so that you can get feedback on what kind of time and knowledge people can provide.
Also, if you want to generate the car in CAD some standardization, file types for example, will be needed if you want to bring all the parts into a single solid model. A poll may be needed to figure out who access to what engineering software.
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[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine]I'd help but I don't see PIMP on the org chart :D[/QUOTE]
lmao...
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[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine]I'd help but I don't see PIMP on the org chart :D[/QUOTE]
You're already in the chart.
[img]http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=229226&stc=1&d=1170623384[/img]
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yh i'd be in if you let me idon't know were i can do a bit of design but im fairly young so perhaps in area with another senior person or something
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I take it that you aren't serious, Rock.
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[QUOTE=Mr.Tiv]I take it that you aren't serious, Rock.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes smilies change the entire perspective of a post. I'm only bustin' his chops. :cool:
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[quote=Alastor]Definitely, you are going to need regular updates from each team. That is something that should be outlined in the schedule.
The schedule along with the design requirements are one of the first things that you may want to define. However, before you can complete either of those you are probably going to need to form the teams so that you can get feedback on what kind of time and knowledge people can provide.
Also, if you want to generate the car in CAD some standardization, file types for example, will be needed if you want to bring all the parts into a single solid model. A poll may be needed to figure out who access to what engineering software.[/quote]
Thanks, some fine ideas as well !
I'll try and translate some formats we use,for our project groups. These cover most of these subjects. might be handy.
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It sounds like an interesting project. I'm studying computer science so I'm in somewhat similar situation to Ferrer. Although some usability is included in my studies so maybe I could help with the interior/dashboard?
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[QUOTE=twinspark]It sounds like an interesting project. I'm studying computer science so I'm in somewhat similar situation to Ferrer. Although some usability is included in my studies so maybe I could help with the interior/dashboard?[/QUOTE]
Well I'm studying economics so I'm not completely useless... :p
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[QUOTE=Rockefella]Sometimes smilies change the entire perspective of a post. I'm only bustin' his chops. :cool:[/QUOTE]
That's what I thought, but I can never be sure without asking.
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I'm studying drinking so I can be of help.
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[quote=Ferrer]Well I'm studying economics so I'm not completely useless... :p[/quote]
perhaps you can be in the finance department ? That is, if you like to ?
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[quote=Ferrer]Well I'm studying economics so I'm not completely useless... :p[/quote] :D Probably less useless than me then.. btw I'm starting the only mandatory economy centered course of my studies tomorrow.
[quote=Rockefella]I'm studying drinking so I can be of help.[/quote] What about your vote? :rolleyes:
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[quote=DBR9]yh i'd be in if you let me idon't know were i can do a bit of design but im fairly young so perhaps in area with another senior person or something[/quote]
Well perhaps we can fill you in as a designer then. We will get a Design manager,so you can cooperate on that, if it is to your liking like this :)
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[QUOTE=drakkie]perhaps you can be in the finance department ? That is, if you like to ?[/QUOTE]
I'd prefer to be in the product planning team, if you don't mind.
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can my Meng+dip. management be of use....seems like a large workload and you really ought to define a scope if this is serious...great idea though:). I can do a fare amount of stress, safety, fatigue and material design and analysis. I have a fair amount of previous projects in fluid dynamics. I am particularly interested in the dynamics (spring-mass systems) in term of NVH.
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Hang on, I need to get this straight... is it fictitious? :confused:
Shotgun finance and company relations.
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hmmm its a non starter, maybe a chance to wind wach other up.
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I can help out with Finance. I have done an economic school and still have economics at school ATM. Also I perhaps can help in law and/or safety...
But tell me, how serious is this?
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[QUOTE=twinspark]
What about your vote? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Ok, ok, I can explain.
The last time we did this, it was all gun-ho and everyone got into it. Then we progressed to a big variety of ideas, and then it slowed down, and then it died.
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I'll be propaganda advisor. 0-60 in 1 sec, 1000 Hp and 1000, lb. ft of torque. Blows the doors off the veyron, and faster around the track then micheal schumacher in a formula one car. Sound good so far?
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[QUOTE=speednine]I'll be propaganda advisor. 0-60 in 1 sec, 1000 Hp and 1000, lb. ft of torque. Blows the doors off the veyron, and faster around the track then micheal schumacher in a formula one car. Sound good so far?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and very realistic...
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[QUOTE=jorismo]Yeah, and very realistic...[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you can take a joke.:rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=speednine]I'm glad you can take a joke.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I'm glad you can too :)