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Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.
Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame ;) )
0-60 in about 4 seconds
250 miles per charge
World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.
Something I could definately drive and be happy about.
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[QUOTE=hightower99;669091]Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.
Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame ;) )
0-60 in about 4 seconds
250 miles per charge
World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.
Something I could definately drive and be happy about.[/QUOTE]
thats only CO2 saving if the power plants are not coal!
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[QUOTE=jediali;669093]thats only CO2 saving if the power plants are not coal![/QUOTE]
It saves whatever fuel you use to make electric power if you are using fossil resources
Using renewable resources it will go further per unit energy you make.
Actually even if you got the power from a coal powered generating station it would generate less CO2 and other pollutants (unburnt HC, NOX, ect.) than if you used the energy in a car with a ICE.
Brilliant idea really. I just hope that range and charging time are the things they are trying to improve.
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[QUOTE=hightower99;669099]It saves whatever fuel you use to make electric power if you are using fossil resources
Using renewable resources it will go further per unit energy you make.
Actually even if you got the power from a coal powered generating station it would generate less CO2 and other pollutants (unburnt HC, NOX, ect.) than if you used the energy in a car with a ICE.
Brilliant idea really. I just hope that range and charging time are the things they are trying to improve.[/QUOTE]
good point
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[QUOTE=revetec;669081]No engine braking ....Her car is an auto. henk4's must be using engine braking or he drives only half as aggressive as my wife.[/QUOTE]
I think he does both... ;)
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HAving driven the Prius - a considered purchase over a year ago - it is not bad in teh family-mover sense.
It has reasonable pull and comfortable drive but some major drawbacks.
Interior is very cheap and no sense of "well built" - they have worked too hard to reduce weight !
THe transmission is set up for average 4 adults. So NO TOWING, and when asked about putting heavy items in the boot the salesmen got very cagey :)
It used petrol engine !! Consumption and emissions no better overall than the diesels available.
Very unapealling drive. Nothing badly wrong, but nothing great either.
As I said a reasonable people mover, but no real benefit in being "hybrid" except for tax and charges as JC says -- but add a $1 9v motor driving via an elastic band to a drive shaft or enging pulley as then it truly is hybrid ( typical Clarkson lack of understanding to think jsut hte battery is enough :) )
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I wouldn't buy a Prius, but I'd consider other Hybrids, such as the Civic.
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The only hibrid i'd consider to buy would be the Gs450h, until the car makers decide to mate a diesel with and electric engine there's no need to buy a gas/eletric hibrid if your thinking in fuel cosumption.
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[QUOTE=hightower99;669091]Personally I think that current hybrid trends and technology have already gotten the boot by the electric car.
Tesla Electric car that is. It has a high performance electric motor (whos torque curve puts anything revetec has made to shame ;) )
0-60 in about 4 seconds
250 miles per charge
World beating well-to-wheel efficiency.
And it is a sports car with great handling and good looks.
Something I could definately drive and be happy about.[/QUOTE]
Oh Hightower...:rolleyes:
So now you are going to compare engines with motors?
You may not know but Revetec has 50% marketing rights to a hybrid system technology. The electric wheel hub motors are 97% efficient and 98% efficient as used as a generator.
I actually ran seminars on our Hybrid system at the Automechanica show in China. It is fully tested and has been in production for many years in another transportation industry and it has been fitted to a Lotus for continued testing.
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Lexus GS400h's battery only lastsw something like 8mi so most of the time you're running on the V6 yet you can get round London and ol' Kenny can't charge you jack s**t.
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[QUOTE=Waugh-terfall;669334]Lexus GS400h's battery only lastsw something like 8mi so most of the time you're running on the V6 yet you can get round London and ol' Kenny can't charge you jack s**t.[/QUOTE]
But my god it's ugly and bland...
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[QUOTE=Ferrer;669354]But my god it's ugly and bland...[/QUOTE]
It's not that bad
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[QUOTE=Waugh-terfall;669357]It's not that bad[/QUOTE]
Not on it's own. But considering the competition... for instance I happen not to like my uncle's A6 that much, but compared to the Lexus..
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[QUOTE=Ferrer;669360]Not on it's own. But considering the competition... for instance I happen not to like my uncle's A6 that much, but compared to the Lexus..[/QUOTE]
In ascending order it'd be
Audi A6
Volvo S80
Lexus GS
Mercedes E-Class
BMW 5-Series
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[QUOTE=Waugh-terfall;669371]In ascending order it'd be
Audi A6
Volvo S80
Lexus GS
Mercedes E-Class
BMW 5-Series[/QUOTE]
And in top of all them the Citroen C6, the Lancia Thesis, the Alfa Romeo 166 and the Mercedes-Benz CLS.