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cmcpokey 07-11-2009 10:27 AM

2009 German Grand Prix
 
Interesting qualifying session with a sudden downpour in Q2 to mix things up. Webber takes his first pole after 130 tries, destroying the record for grand prix starts without a pole.

Provisional Grid with weights.

1. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 661kg
2. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 647
3. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 644
4. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 661
5. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 654.5
6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 664.0
7. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 678.5
8. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 673.5
9. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 674
10. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 676
11. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber,
12. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 668.2
13. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 683.6
14. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 683.7
15. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 689.6
16. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 673.5
17. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 674.5
18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 662.5
19. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 689.5
20. Timo Glock, Toyota, 662.3

whiteballz 07-11-2009 10:31 AM

good on you webber. Lets see if you can stay there :)

Kitdy 07-11-2009 11:47 AM

It seems as though that Red Bull has caught up to the Brawns a lot and I think the question is can they rack up[ enough points to catch them in the standings before season's end?

fpv_gtho 07-11-2009 11:58 AM

Red Bull still need another team taking points off Brawn. Button should be safe for the rest of the year, knowing both Red Bulls wont always be ahead and theres bound to be races that either favour Brawn more or Red Bull have issues with. Its going to be tight though, so Brawn definately wont be sitting still.

LeonOfTheDead 07-11-2009 12:18 PM

If Brawn can't react soon, RBR will take the lead, with summer new updates for the RBR will arrive and if now they are a bit in front of the Brawns, then the gap will be too much for Button and Barrichello to catch up.
They were lighter today, still didn't manage to take the lead.
I thought Hamilton and Sutil were much lighter than than, especially the German.
Props to him.

Kitdy 07-11-2009 12:26 PM

[quote=fpv_gtho;894525]Red Bull still need another team taking points off Brawn. Button should be safe for the rest of the year, knowing both Red Bulls wont always be ahead and theres bound to be races that either favour Brawn more or Red Bull have issues with. Its going to be tight though, so Brawn definately wont be sitting still.[/quote]

Some bad luck via DNFs be they mechanical or otherwise though and Red Bull will be biting at the heels of Brawn. This bad luck could be compounded with rain or something. Right now, Wiki...

Ok. So 9 races left, Vettel is 25 back so he needs to score about 2.8 more points per race than Button to beat him to the title. Of course, this number would change hugely with a DNF or two from Button. For Red Bull to overtake Brawn in the Constructor's, they need about 3.4 points a race more than Brawn.

Cotterik 07-11-2009 12:30 PM

good on webber for managing to find the time in his flying lap evidently with the brawns significantly lighter. And he is not a light guy :p

very happy for him. he's one of the great characters to be around the f1 paddock and a real treat for him to be on pole after all these years. Also very excited to see how lewis plays out during the race with a more competetive car. And whether or not webber has the consistency and the strategy to endure 60 laps at the front. Bring on the rain!

charged 07-11-2009 04:32 PM

[quote=cmcpokey;894490]Interesting qualifying session with a sudden downpour in Q2 to mix things up. Webber takes his first pole after 130 tries, destroying the record for grand prix starts without a pole.

Provisional Grid with weights.

[B]1. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 661kg[/B]
2. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 647
3. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 644
4. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 661
5. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 654.5
6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 664.0
7. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 678.5
8. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 673.5
9. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 674
10. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 676
11. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber,
12. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 668.2
13. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 683.6
14. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 683.7
15. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 689.6
16. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 673.5
17. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 674.5
18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 662.5
19. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 689.5
20. Timo Glock, Toyota, 662.3[/quote]


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go webber :)[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Im first to admit Im a massive fanboy of webber and hopefully he does well, he is running fairly heavy, hopefully he has some luck and gets his maiden win

whiteballz 07-11-2009 05:22 PM

I suffer the australian syndrome, Of loving the underdog, and disliking the favourite :p

Black Edition 07-11-2009 05:28 PM

wow... mark webber got his first career pole.

i hope he wins.

Wouter Melissen 07-12-2009 12:54 AM

[quote=LeonOfTheDead;894533]If Brawn can't react soon, RBR will take the lead, with summer new updates for the RBR will arrive and if now they are a bit in front of the Brawns, then the gap will be too much for Button and Barrichello to catch up.[/quote]

I don't think Brawn can catch up. Now that they no longer have Honda's backing, they must be hurting. Red Bull has way more resources. It would really surprise me if Brawn would be a force again next year.

f6fhellcat13 07-12-2009 01:05 AM

An enjoyable quali session. One of the commentators pointed out that quali has been better than racing this year, and sadly he is right.

Congrats Mark! You do realize that if you win tomorrow you will no longer be an underdog and I will no longer feel obliged to root for you, right?

pimento 07-12-2009 05:24 AM

Well, that's an irritating turn of events for Webber..

pimento 07-12-2009 05:51 AM

..On the other hand, it may not matter.. yay!

pimento 07-12-2009 06:40 AM

Happy dance! Do the happy dance! Huzzah huzzah!


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