BMW 1-Series (F20/F21) 2011-

[quote=Commodore GS/E;969736]It's still better than it's predecessor which looked like an extremely excited pregnant pig.[/quote]

I'm not sure about that... I'm not a fan of the old one, but I prefer it to this one.

[quote=pimento;969745]I'm not sure about that... I'm not a fan of the old one, but I prefer it to this one.[/quote]

They could have made the new one a lot worse. FWD, for example.

But then the drivetrain layout is not part of the styling, is it?

The 1er has certainly never been a car you bought because [I]it was pretty[/I]...

[quote=Ferrer;969749]But then the drivetrain layout is not part of the styling, is it?

The 1er has certainly never been a car you bought because [I]it was pretty[/I]...[/quote]

But knowing that it is FWD would ruin it even more. The rwd insures that it's at least unique in it's class and will be tolerated a bit more.

[quote=Commodore GS/E;969757]But knowing that it is FWD would ruin it even more. The rwd insures that it's at least unique in it's class and will be tolerated a bit more.[/quote]
Precisely, I didn't buy a 1er because it was pretty.

I bought it because it was rear wheel drive.

And would do so again.

[quote=thebrochureman;969740]I see a bit of BMW X1 when i look at this car, and that's bad.[/quote]

This.

What disturbs me most ist the front. Too much empty space between grill and the headlights...

Really not a beautiful car and even worse than the first one.

[quote=naweng;969838] even worse than the first one.[/quote]

The old one didn't look bad, infact i think the old one was a great looking car, especaly the 1M.

The old one isn't exactly a pretty car.

^^ It's not bad looking though.

The old body-style 1M just set an 8:15 at the Nurburgring, which is seven seconds slower than the wrong wheel-drive Ultramegane Trophy. This is a useless comparison really, but the reason for the M's lack of speed is interesting. Apparently, the driver thought that the suspension was too stiff for the Ring. Now, I know that the surface of the Rig is infamously choppy, but I think the idea of a road car's suspension being too stiff for a racetrack is laughable.
I know German car companies like to put overly-stiff suspensions in their cars, but this is a little silly.

Grille looks too big, the front headlights are out of proportion. I hope the fix the front of the car in the inevitable facelift 3 or so years from now.

[quote=thebrochureman;969839] a great looking car, especaly the 1M.[/quote]

Talking bout the 1M means talking bout the coupe. We don´t know that yet and i suppose it´ll take some time for the coupe and convertible to come. The old coupe however was indeed a quite nice car.

The 3/5-door verison was really not what i would call beautiful, but as ferrer said the sportiest alternative in the segment by far.

^^^ Yes but the new 1 Series coupe will have the same light shape and grill ect, so i can guess what the new 1 Series Coupe will look like, it's not going to be pretty.

[quote=thebrochureman;969855]^^ It's not bad looking though.[/quote]
In my opinion it is.

The drive more than makes up for it, though.
[quote=f6fhellcat13;969858]The old body-style 1M just set an 8:15 at the Nurburgring, which is seven seconds slower than the wrong wheel-drive Ultramegane Trophy. This is a useless comparison really, but the reason for the M's lack of speed is interesting. Apparently, the driver thought that the suspension was too stiff for the Ring. Now, I know that the surface of the Rig is infamously choppy, but I think the idea of a road car's suspension being too stiff for a racetrack is laughable.
I know German car companies like to put overly-stiff suspensions in their cars, but this is a little silly.[/quote]
Even though the little Renault has (almost) a 100bhp deficit?

Interesting.

I'd still take the Bimmer. Altough I could almost buy to Renaults for the price of the 1er...