"silly goose" is a nice way fo saying....
you are very nieve to think those american cars come any where close to europoean cars or asian cars.
the most watched motor sport is the world rally championship and formula one. and no american teams race.
what a pity you "silly goose's" dont have the balls to step up the challenge.
and as for the crappy mustang
well the new Subaru STi VII gets about 0-100kph in 4.6secs(with crappy emmission restrictions) and thats from a 2 litre motor.
Subaru = 2.0L 4.6sec
Mustang = 4.6L 4.5sec
hmmm and the diference is ?
2.6 litres ... thats like another car.. hell thats a skyline motor.
but like Ive said america can afford to waste engine space because all your cars are subsidized, so people will buy them.
when american cars start showing there stuff in rally or in formula one then you can try make claims of how great your cars are.
but for right now just accept the fact that a whole lot of countries are doing it better than you ...much better.
if you make up the rules you are always gonna win.
Re: "silly goose" is a nice way fo saying....
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by guyt_x [/i]
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... if you make up the rules you are always gonna win. [/B][/QUOTE]
Well, you seem to have made up the rule that small displacement is the only way to go, and that if you don't have high HP/L then you don't have anything special. See in America, we believe engineering doesn't stop at the engine... it's the whole car. If we get our cars to do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, that's one hell of an accomplishment - just like it is for any other country when they get their cars to do it. You are very narrow-minded in your view of what makes a car a "good" car. It is simply a different way of accomplishing the same goal. By the way, I will soon be pushing 600+ rwhp, that translates to 706 HP at the crank on my 5.7 liter engine. That equals 124 HP/L. See? American engines are capable of that. As far as Rally or F1 is concerned. America is a capitalistic society - economic survival of the fittest. No one watches F1 racing or Rally racing... no one cares about it here, one damn bit. That is why no American companies give a damn about it. It's a money loser for them! Why would they invest in something they will receive no return from? American TV networks tried to force soccer in to popularity here a couple years ago... now the MLS has some of the worst soccer in the world and has just about faded into oblivion. Face it, we're a different culture... and the majority of Americans don't give a damn about F1 or Rally racing. They hate the "weed-whakcer" sound of small displacement engines. They love the roar of a meaty V8. They love head snapping low-end torque. And when American car makers can come up with an engine that does those things, and goes faster and handles better than most imports, all the while uses LESS GASOLINE... why wouldn't they do it? (By the way, I am talking about the LS6 in the Corvette Z06). It is exactly what their market is looking for.
And as far as "they only sell cars cheap because they are subsidized by the US government"... you had better have proof, because that is the most outlandish bold claim I have ever heard if you don't.
Jay 02 TA ws6 you are a silly narrow minded goose
going round in circle with a V8... what is fun about watching that.
I hate saying this but even the the australians have got V8 racing but they use a normal race track...you know LEFT AND RIGHT.
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If we get our cars to do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, that's one hell of an accomplishment
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but you people get it out of a huge engine....
with performance cars today:
getting 0-60 in 4.5secs from a motor of FIVE LITRES or more is easy.
patting yourself on the head for getting it from a 5.7litre whatever american car is lame and in fact sad.
Re: Jay 02 TA ws6 you are a silly narrow minded goose
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by guyt_x [/i]
[B]going round in circle with a V8... what is fun about watching that.
I hate saying this but even the the australians have got V8 racing but they use a normal race track...you know LEFT AND RIGHT.
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If we get our cars to do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, that's one hell of an accomplishment
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but you people get it out of a huge engine....
with performance cars today:
getting 0-60 in 4.5secs from a motor of FIVE LITRES or more is easy.
patting yourself on the head for getting it from a 5.7litre whatever american car is lame and in fact sad. [/B][/QUOTE]
I never complimented NASCAR. It is dumb, although it IS popular. But just so you know, NASCAR does race on road courses as well.
This is the last time I will waste any more of my time responsing to your psychobabble garbage. Life is too precious to waste time arguing with complete morons.
Go take your unfounded bold claims elsewhere... I hear they need a new Foreign Information Minister in Iraq. Why don't you go calim the Americans are "nowhere within 600 miles of Baghdad" right while a tank rolls behind you on camera.