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    They don't have to be fingers, in order to be...

    They don't have to be fingers, in order to be able to control torque. Well, maybe in your case, you should be using your fingers...


    Uhhrr...didn't bother to read my comment in #112, I see:...
  2. It's the magnitute of that initial cost. There...

    It's the magnitute of that initial cost.
    There is additional cost, compared to modifying an existing car. You have to consider the cost of tooling (basically starting from the ground up),...
  3. Dozens? Let's see them. And when did I say...

    Dozens? Let's see them.
    And when did I say that's the only reason you're citing? No, you said that its driving dynamics was a reason it was never built. In order to go into production at all, a...
  4. My point was that it's not only expensive to...

    My point was that it's not only expensive to start up and be reasonably sure your offering is at least on an even level with the competition, but it's costly to be compliant in emissions and crash...
  5. And I never said it didn't get canned multiple...

    And I never said it didn't get canned multiple times. I do know the Ford GT90 never got past the concept stage. So to say that it wasn't built on the basis of the concept car being a dog is to miss...
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    Err...do you mean "I did NOT say all the others...

    Err...do you mean "I did NOT say all the others don't count too"? Because your statement "EVERY time you see a driver in a professional race spin off in a corner then it's down to throttle control"...
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    If you're going to lend credence to that NRing...

    If you're going to lend credence to that NRing example (and before you get all pissy and defensive, I'm not saying that you're necessarily doing that), then consider the speeds the V8 Vantage (on P...
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    Always to the negative. That's a load of...

    Always to the negative.


    That's a load of crap. I've seen drivers go off due to finally realizing they've had an oh-shit-too-fast moment, then getting on the binders poorly, or poor steering AND...
  9. Except Bugatti made it clear from the get-go that...

    Except Bugatti made it clear from the get-go that they would strive to acheive incredibly lofty goals. The GT90 made no such promises; it was merely a design study for the future direction of other...
  10. If he's wondering why there aren't more...

    If he's wondering why there aren't more independent sports car manufacturers, then the prevalence of kit car manufacturers (Ultima being one of them in this market; Factory Five being another, and...
  11. What part of "Their quote:" did you not...

    What part of "Their quote:" did you not understand?
    Their opinion is that it lacks imagination. And now that your arm's been practically twisted, you're admitting as much.
    Oh, so now your either...
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    Yeah, I know you said in some condition. But...

    Yeah, I know you said in some condition. But what condition is that? The condition where a careless or inexperienced driver is at the wheel? Yes, I admit: in some condition, a drunk would send a...
  13. But that's not the reason why the GT90 wasn't...

    But that's not the reason why the GT90 wasn't built. Those who attended the auto shows didn't care one bit how the car handled or performed. They simply weren't interested in the looks. The same...
  14. Wait, you didn't author this quote?: "My issue...

    Wait, you didn't author this quote?:
    "My issue is that it is a shameless photocopy. Why not create a new design that was original, but of sufficient beauty to be comparable to the GT40?"...
  15. Wait, I never said it didn't have an engine. ...

    Wait, I never said it didn't have an engine. From what I'd read, it was severly limited in top speed as it was just a prototype and had very little (if any) reliability development.
    And besides, I...
  16. I could have sworn before your edit you left out...

    I could have sworn before your edit you left out the "first" bit. My bad.
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    "And in some conditions, MORE available power...

    "And in some conditions, MORE available power (torque really) makes you slower."
    Right, if you're a caveman or otherwise careless. Except, he didn't stress that point.

    The Lancer Registry...
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    Actually, what you said was: "And in some...

    Actually, what you said was:
    "And in some conditions MORE available power ( torque really) makes you slower.
    Watch out on track times too as we've gone over this many times in other threads here....
  19. But you quoted me on the GT90. What's that got...

    But you quoted me on the GT90. What's that got to do with a Mustang? Nothing. My points about why they didn't build the GT90 still stand (basically, there was ZERO interest).


    I thought they...
  20. But he's driven it. You haven't. Have you? And...

    But he's driven it. You haven't. Have you? And on those roads?
  21. And what of '68 and '69. What stopped privateers...

    And what of '68 and '69. What stopped privateers from continuing to make it successful, after Ford pulled out?


    Right, because anyone attending those auto shows has a clue as to how a CONCEPT...
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    Again, you need to revisit the thread: Matra...

    Again, you need to revisit the thread: Matra pointed out how torque is such a nightmare in the wet. I countered that he did NOT prove his case. Basically, he said torque was BAD. I said: it...
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    Oh yeah, He who has "wasted enough time" in this...

    Oh yeah, He who has "wasted enough time" in this thread, hasn't. And who has "no stigma with anything YOU may say about me anymore !!!", apparently does. Damn, guy. Your lack of self control is...
  24. So tell me how these ducks are different. ...

    So tell me how these ducks are different.


    Fine, let's call it an opinion. That still doesn't address the issue of whether the praises heaped on the Ford GT for the way it looks (even in...
  25. Doesn't it sound a lot like your opinion?: "My...

    Doesn't it sound a lot like your opinion?:
    "My issue is that it is a shameless photocopy. Why not create a new design that was original, but of sufficient beauty to be comparable to the GT40?"

    ...
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