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man it really seems like your here to fight with me.
im just expressing an opinion about the wheels car of the year award. why is it so personal?? anyway didnt update my profile, i had a really good...

yes, very confusing

i really dont see it as nothing.
and in general the car introduced is just keeping up. the engines dont really get them ahead, they have a 4 speed auto on a base model which is not acceptable, but...

but the VE largely had carryover engines and transmissions, which really needed to be upgraded
much much worse

and more specifically?

im not stuborn enough to say never again

but i really doubt it, theyre a joke

the VE will win because this is wheels magazine! what else could there be?

if they didnt choose the VE i would start buying their magazine again

the world is being taken over by nerds

for our uninitiated canuck friend, i guess to give you an idea the calais V V6 based on the exchange rate sells for about 49K canadian dollars, so your looking at chrysler 300C level luxury rather...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_G8

any car can be riced

GM have to prove themselves before people stop saying negative things about them.

what happened?

Noone can justify justify an accusation that wheels was biased against holden. They promote holden in every issue.

The SMH is a broadsheet

The maximas are awesome.. had one as hire car (only complaint is the turning circle) however i own and an accord and i definately love it. id definately go back again
One thing about that review......

One major problem is that they are now being exluded from these kind of comparisons. and when they do get included, they dont seem to get a similarly priced model reviewed. eg about 6 months ago when...

This thread rocks
so much crying

I have heard of the avalon, which wasnt very successful, however you said that 'every' six they have released has failed.

If your looking for some discussion on how they link F1 to the development...

- They advertised it as a "new direction in aussie sixes" not a "traditional aussie 6".
- The Camry 6 didnt fail, they have sold heaps, i see them everywhere.
- Toyota do gain engineering...

or you could consider that these are very similar to Celica naming?

thats nearly 27kw/L !

someone should suss the IP out... not many people use dialup these days

hmm is that true? or would it be truer to say that caddy platform wasnt really compatible with what they wanted to do?
i dont know much about the issue

they should focus on bringing cadillac instead