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    Saddam's Advice.

    NEW YORK (June 20) - Thrust unexpectedly into the role of prison guards for Saddam Hussein, a group of young American soldiers found the deposed Iraqi leader to be a friendly, talkative ''clean freak'' who loved Raisin Bran for breakfast, did his own laundry and insisted he was still president of Iraq, says a report published on Monday.

    GQ magazine's July issue says Saddam greatly admired President Reagan and thought President Clinton was ''OK,'' but had harsh words for both President Bushes, each of whom went to war against him.

    ''The Bush father, son, no good,'' one of the soldiers, Cpl. Jonathan ''Paco'' Reese, 22, of Millville, Pa., quotes Saddam as saying. But his fellow GI, Specialist Sean O'Shea, then 19, says Saddam later softened that view.

    ''Towards the end he was saying that he doesn't hold any hard feelings and he just wanted to talk to Bush, to make friends with him,'' O'Shea, of Minooka, Pa., told the magazine.

    A third soldier, Spc. Jesse Dawson, quoted Saddam as saying of Bush, '''He knows I have nothing, no mass weapons. He knows he'll never find them.'''

    The three GIs were among members of C Company, 2nd Battalion, 103rd Armor Regiment, a Pennsylvania National Guard unit from the Scranton area that was activated for duty in Iraq in late 2003. Instead of combat, they were chosen by the FBI to serve as guards at a U.S. military compound where Saddam was an ''HVD,'' or high value detainee.

    The nine-month assignment was so secret that they could not tell their families, according to the article by GQ correspondent Lisa DePaulo. The article names five of the soldiers who agreed to discuss the experience, with the military's permission.

    They were required to sign statements prohibiting them from revealing the location, dates, garrison strength and certain other details of Saddam's incarceration. But they were free to describe their interactions with the prisoner, according to the article.


    What They Talked About


    The Bush Presidents:
    "The Bush father, son, no good."
    -- Cpl. Jonathan "Paco" Reese, quoting Saddam

    "Towards the end he was saying that he doesn't hold any hard feelings and he just wanted to talk to Bush, to make friends with him.''
    -- Spc. Sean O'Shea

    Advice for an Unmarried Soldier
    "[Saddam] was like, 'You gotta find a good woman. Not too smart, not too dumb. Not too old, not too young. One that can cook and clean."'
    -- O'Shea

    Favorite Snack
    Saddam got grumpy when his supply of Cheetos ran out, so the soldiers substituted Doritos. "He'd eat a family size bag of Doritos in 10 minutes."
    -- Spc. Jesse Dawson

    On His Capture
    "[Saddam] compared himself to Jesus, how Judas told on Jesus. He was like, 'That's how it was for me.' If his Judas never said anything, nobody ever would have found him, he said."
    -- Dawson

    On Status
    "He'd always tell us he was still the president. That's what he thinks, 100 percent."
    -- Dawson

    Source: AP

    Pentagon officials had no immediate comment because they had not seen the article, spokeswoman Lynnette Ebberts said Monday.

    The soldiers' descriptions of Saddam's life in prison match the recent photos of him that apparently were smuggled out of prison - showing the former dictator in his underwear and a long robe. They describe a man who once lived in palaces and now occupies a cell where he has no personal privacy.

    Once, when Saddam fell down during his twice-a-week shower, the article says, ''panic ensued. No one wanted him to be hurt while being guarded by Americans.'' One GI had to help Saddam back to his cell, another carried his underwear, it adds.

    Saddam learned the names of the GIs guarding him, was interested in the details of their lives, which they were not supposed to discuss, and sometimes offered fatherly advice. They conversed in English.

    O'Shea said when he told him he was not married, Saddam ''started telling me what to do.'' ''He was like, 'you gotta find a good woman. Not too smart, not too dumb. Not too old, not too young. One that can cook and clean.'''

    Then he smiled, made what O'Shea interpreted as a ''spanking'' gesture, laughed and went back to washing his clothes in the sink.

    The soldiers say Saddam was preoccupied with cleanliness, washing up after shaking hands and using diaper wipes to clean his meal trays, his utensils and the table before eating. ''He had germophobia or whatever you call it'' said Dawson, 25, of Berwick, Pa.

    The article quotes the GIs on Saddam's eating preferences - Raisin Bran Crunch was his breakfast favorite. ''No Froot Loops,'' he told O'Shea. He ate fish and chicken but refused beef at dinner.

    For a time his favorite food was Cheetos, and when those ran out, Saddam would ''get grumpy,'' the story says. One day the guards substituted Doritos corn chips, and Saddam forgot about Cheetos. ''He'd eat a family size bag of Doritos in 10 minutes,'' Dawson says.

    Saddam prayed five times a day in his cell and kept a Quran that he claimed to have found in some rubble near the underground hideout. ''He proudly showed (it) to the boys because it was burned around the edges and had a bullet hole in it,'' the story says.

    According to the author, Saddam told his guards that when the Americans invaded Iraq in March 2003, he ''tried to flee in a taxicab as the tanks were rolling in,'' and the U.S. planes attacked the palace to which he intended to escape rather than the one he was in, injuring some of his bodyguards.

    ''But then he started laughing,'' recalls Reese. ''He goes, 'America, they dumb. They bomb wrong palace.'''

    Saddam told the guards his capture in an underground hideout on Dec. 18, 2003, resulted from a betrayal by the only man who knew where he was, and had been paid to keep the secret.

    ''He was really mad about that,'' says Dawson. ''He compared himself to Jesus, how Judas told on Jesus. He was like, 'that's how it was for me.'' If his Judas never said anything, nobody ever would have found him, he said.''

    U.S. officials said at the time that Saddam's capture resulted from intelligence from several sources rather than a single informant.

    The article says that if Saddam knew the statue of himself in Baghdad's Firdos Square was toppled on April 9, 2003, he never mentioned it to the GI guards. He insisted that everything he did, including the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, was for the good of his people, and invited his guards to return to Iraq and stay at his palace after he was restored to power.

    ''He'd always tell us he was still the president. That's what he thinks, One hundred percent,'' says Dawson.

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    Well, everyone must have some shred of goodness in them.. but I think Saddam has come to terms with his capture and the fact that he's screwed for the rest of his life.
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    gets grumpy when his cheetos run out, likes raisin bran, is a neat freak, instists he is still the president, i think saddam is going a little bit MORE insane now that he is captured
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    now, when he's in jail his going to be nice to all people and make smart advices only to show how good he is. saddam still thinks that he can get away from death penalty
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    Saddam's Cheetos vs USA's Freedom Fries .. both leave a bitter taste so there's not much difference imo

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    well you can't blame him some americans are stupid but most are ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by my porsche
    gets grumpy when his cheetos run out, likes raisin bran, is a neat freak, instists he is still the president, i think saddam is going a little bit MORE insane now that he is captured
    is that a description of bush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dydzi
    now, when he's in jail his going to be nice to all people and make smart advices only to show how good he is. saddam still thinks that he can get away from death penalty
    He's trying to get on the good side of his jailers. He didn't get to where he was without knowing how to manipulate people.
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    I think he's misunderstood. It wouldn't be fair to call him a psycho without really knowing him.

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    common, the dude knows he's locked up in there for a long time, simply having a conversation with the guards who are around you 24/7 isn't manipulation, its just human nature!

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    seems like a decent guy

    as long as he stays in jail for the rest of his life.

    i would rather die then live the rest of my life in jail.

    death penalty is so stupid. and so are the american "500 - 2000 year sentances" that jurors have handed out on previous occasions to rapists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteballz
    seems like a decent guy

    as long as he stays in jail for the rest of his life.

    i would rather die then live the rest of my life in jail.

    death penalty is so stupid. and so are the american "500 - 2000 year sentances" that jurors have handed out on previous occasions to rapists.
    What if some sort of immortality pill was found, they could force them to have one and finish their sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteballz
    i would rather die then live the rest of my life in jail.

    death penalty is so stupid.
    which is it?
    death penalty is perfect for murderers, in fact its a little too nice. the real problem is stupid sentences for small crimes like drugs. and californias "three-strikes youre out" policy is bullshit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIMPLETON
    ''clean freak''
    What was he thinking when he moved to Iraq? It has more dust than anywhere else in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyperl
    which is it?
    death penalty is perfect for murderers, in fact its a little too nice. the real problem is stupid sentences for small crimes like drugs. and californias "three-strikes youre out" policy is bullshit!
    Define small drugs charges, Possession. Yes. Possession with intent to supply, They deserve what they get.

    And What if the Murder Charge is proven inaccurate? Theres no going back, is there.
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