In a few years time

[Matra et Alpine]

Get rally-prepped cars by the bundle of you come to UK.
Come to Scotland and avoid the 'poms'
Get "Motorsport News" weekly paper for competitions news and cars for sale.

2 Cosworth Saphires for sale this week. Full rally prepped shells, engines and suspension. Only 5000 each. What's the cost to ship to Oz ? A grand ??

[fpv_gtho]

damn im at school for 7 hours and the forums practically explode with posts lol. if it were my money, i'd be looking for possible an old capri or escort, maybe just the rolling body them perhaps stick a 289 in it. i think that could be getting over $20K though to get a hold of a working engine and a decent body

[Falcon500]

Well the club cars i wish to race are manily for road rallys like what jim richards races porsches and stuff in and while im lieing between my teeth about only wating to be there im only starting out so my intention so far is to have fun.
And i know that 20k is chicken feed for racing but the reason i chose the road style rallys (like the targas and adelade classic) are because they prefer only mildy modified cars (you can go full out or use a kit car but then your treated like scum) keeping the costs down and usually ensuring close racing and in the proces frown upon kits and replicas.
And Youd be suprised how well the AMCs go on these courses NoOne i was suprised myself but its a lot of the less desirble ones that suprise people on these races. A ford perana (later model capri with a 302 clevland v8) came in the top 10 of the adelade classic amongst porsches a genuine GT40 and a whole hostof other classics (there was even a genuine one off lister race car from the 50s)
Im not terribly fussed upon perods they have classes for all stock bodied cars but the main focus is on classics as a preference id rather stick to 60s,70s,80s.
And those electricalproblem would be the lucas electrics wouldent they? the joke around this country is thats why the poms drink their beer warm lucas also make fridges
Well give us an oi if you get any info on an rs500 (i think it was a 3 door hatch sierra with that goofy looking spoiler) that kind of thing would be tops for the rally.

[fpv_gtho]

yeah the RS500 wouldve been the sierra Brock drive when bathurst was part of the international group a calender

[SHAKER]

in 97 or 98 a xw phase one GTHO won the adelaide classic, and couple of modified escorts have won the adelaide event to. If you want to race a car and have a low budget you cant really go past the mid 70s 2 door escorts, with there revvy 2 litre engines and abundance of cheap 2nd hand parts and panels around, it really is the cheap way to go motor racing. Matra those figures i quoted were for a stock 5 litre v8 with a 2 barrel carby, with a minimal amount of work on that engine with the solid running gear the car already has, they have pulled some damn quick times.....and that was back in the 70s, with some modern technology and a few dollars injected into them im sure theyd give a lot of small cars more than a run for there money. I saw one advertised with a holden 6 cylinder engine of all motors, it was in good condition and he was asking 12000 dollars for it.

[Falcon500]

Yeah but brock was uncompetative so he went to the next fad the BMW and was uncompetative again and went back to holden and never won a championship and hardly any races again.
Yeah a 74 model prosche won last year and the year before that but a wins not on the tally good perforamnce maybey but a whole few days of fun are what im after...for now
And that bolwell you saw couldof quite possibly been a Mark VII model they were built before the nagari and used holden 6 cylender engines...tyhe reason why they didnt use holden engines in the nagari (other then the fact they woke up j/k ) was becase holden wouldent give any warrenty on those engines were ford didnt mind it one bit. but a mkvii wouldent be too bad either theyd be a sight faser then a GTR XU-1.

[Matra et Alpine]

Well give us an oi if you get any info on an rs500 (i think it was a 3 door hatch sierra with that goofy looking spoiler) that kind of thing would be tops for the rally.

The Sierra shape was the original Cosworth-engined rally 4x4 from Ford.
The Saphire followed using a 4 door saloon body as it was easier to strengthen for the rough stuff.
There's always plenty for sale around the rally scene in the UK. There's one in this week that's only 10 miles from where I am. For a suitable fee I could buy and ship it for you

[Matra et Alpine]

in 97 or 98 a xw phase one GTHO won the adelaide classic, and couple of modified escorts have won the adelaide event to. If you want to race a car and have a low budget you cant really go past the mid 70s 2 door escorts, with there revvy 2 litre engines and abundance of cheap 2nd hand parts and panels around, it really is the cheap way to go motor racing.

and if you want to travel, then hit the original british islands in the Caribean.
They took LOTS of Escorts and they've mostly survived.
A UK firm specialises in importing them back and restoring them to better than original. For the price of a modern family hatch you can have the equivalent of a Mexico, Twin Cam or RW2000 !!!

Matra those figures i quoted were for a stock 5 litre v8 with a 2 barrel carby, with a minimal amount of work on that engine with the solid running gear the car already has, they have pulled some damn quick times.....and that was back in the 70s, with some modern technology and a few dollars injected into them im sure theyd give a lot of small cars more than a run for there money. I saw one advertised with a holden 6 cylinder engine of all motors, it was in good condition and he was asking 12000 dollars for it.

Most historic and classic events limit what you can add to the cars.
In the class we run, you are ONLY allowed to add 'PERIOD' modifications.
So if the part was available in 1973 we can add it, if not you can't.
So new technology may be banned.

And just to stir the pot, if you apply the same new technology to a Lotus Twin Cam from the 60s you can breath REAL fire !!

BUT, the one thing they can never do is much the sound if a big V8 from burble to roar I don't like popping and banging turbos as much

[Falcon500]

Well that sounds kewl but ill have to refer you to the name of the thread and ill have to talk it over with my co driver but its defintly a option (and a good one at that) though fair waring id only want to go three door the saphs look kinda funny...

[SHAKER]

[QUOTE=Matra et Alpine]and if you want to travel, then hit the original british islands in the Caribean.
They took LOTS of Escorts and they've mostly survived.
A UK firm specialises in importing them back and restoring them to better than original. For the price of a modern family hatch you can have the equivalent of a Mexico, Twin Cam or RW2000 !!!


Most historic and classic events limit what you can add to the cars.
In the class we run, you are ONLY allowed to add 'PERIOD' modifications.
So if the part was available in 1973 we can add it, if not you can't.
So new technology may be banned.

And just to stir the pot, if you apply the same new technology to a Lotus Twin Cam from the 60s you can breath REAL fire !!
yes thats true, but the windsor engine was around in the 60s and ford modyfied it from the factory in the US and OZ. Theyres lots of escorts here, theyres a nice rs2000 going around here with a 302 windsor, he changed the logs to rs5000 hehe =P

[Falcon500]

Well i was talking to a mate and he suggested a datsun 240Z or 260Z now hows that for an option quck handel well light...and very importantly reasonbly cheap here.

[Matra et Alpine]

Well i was talking to a mate and he suggested a datsun 240Z or 260Z now hows that for an option quck handel well light...and very importantly reasonbly cheap here.

Good chocie and probably easy for you to get parts and replacement bits ?
There are a couple run in the events over here and they are nice cars.
That big straight six looks and sounds nice
That's the one ! Red with matt black bonnet and the whole "African Safari Rally" look would be fantastic and not too expensive.

[Falcon500]

Well its already was a damn nice engine but some new carbies repalcing the twin set up as well as a regrind of the cam and some exaust wouldmake that car truely live!

[fpv_gtho]

i'd say if you can get a hold of a 240z or 260z then go for it. as already said theyre a great car and havent got much going against them

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Well in a few years time im planning a trip to america (possibly even sooner well see) and while there im planning to see the sites and my biggest ambition is to pick up a car! Now this wont be just any car I intend to pick up somthing that would make a good club racer and som,thing that is so diffrent (niot hard with most american cars here) that people will just gawk.
-Nick

i have a Question, what is a club racer?