View Poll Results: Which of these will win a race ?

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  • Porsche Boxster S

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  • Lotus Elise 111R

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Thread: Boxster vs Elise

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    Even with Ring's long straights the Elise is not outmatched by the boxter, it accelerates faster than the Boxter S:

    Elise: 0 - 60 = 4.6 secs
    Boxter S: 0 - 60 = 5.7

    And factor in the Elise's better handling, I'd go Lotus. It would be interesting to see how it would match up against the new Cayman though.
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    taz there aren't many corners on Nordschleife where you drop to 0 and then wan to accelerate to 60
    Losing 10mph at the top end on the long straights easily losese you MANY seconds that aren't really returnable when the slowest you're takign a corner is 50-60
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    Quote Originally Posted by taz_rocks_miami
    Even with Ring's long straights the Elise is not outmatched by the boxter, it accelerates faster than the Boxter S:

    Elise: 0 - 60 = 4.6 secs
    Boxter S: 0 - 60 = 5.7

    And factor in the Elise's better handling, I'd go Lotus. It would be interesting to see how it would match up against the new Cayman though.
    Yes but in the long straights top speed is counted more on, bro

    EDIT: Meh Peter beat me to it
    Last edited by spi-ti-tout; 10-20-2005 at 05:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    taz there aren't many corners on Nordschleife where you drop to 0 and then wan to accelerate to 60
    Losing 10mph at the top end on the long straights easily losese you MANY seconds that aren't really returnable when the slowest you're takign a corner is 50-60
    I gotta drive that track someday.


    Quote Originally Posted by spi-ti-tout
    Yes but in the long straights top speed is counted more on, bro
    Stick a supercharger on the Elise...that'll solve that problem!!

    *Hides from Matra*

    Have both the Elise and Boxter S been tested on the Top Gear track? I'm too lazy to look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taz_rocks_miami
    Have both the Elise and Boxter S been tested on the Top Gear track? I'm too lazy to look it up.
    This is from last year some time, can't remember when I grabbed it
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    Porsche Boxster S
    Power 260 bhp / 194 KW @ 6200 rpm
    Power to weight ratio 0.2 bhp / kg
    Top Speed 264 km/h / 164 mph

    Lotus Elise
    Power 189 bhp / 141 KW @ 7800 rpm
    Power to weight ratio 0.22 bhp / kg
    Top Speed 241 km/h / 150 mph


    I dont know the track but how long and how often would they be at their top speed? The elise should have pretty good if not better top end acceleration as it gets most of its power at a higher rpm then the porsche. So i say elise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottie300z
    I dont know the track but how long and how often would they be at their top speed? The elise should have pretty good if not better top end acceleration as it gets most of its power at a higher rpm then the porsche. So i say elise.
    WHERE you get the power is not as important as how wide the power band is and what the gearing is.
    Anyone got power grapsh for them ? I know where I can get Elise, never seen Porsche anywhere though.
    PS: there are lots of places at Nordshcliefe where you sit on the rev limiter ( presuming the driver has the skill and balls )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine
    WHERE you get the power is not as important as how wide the power band is and what the gearing is.
    Anyone got power grapsh for them ? I know where I can get Elise, never seen Porsche anywhere though.
    PS: there are lots of places at Nordshcliefe where you sit on the rev limiter ( presuming the driver has the skill and balls )
    This is true, i didnt take into consideration shift points and gearing. and i have no prior knowledge of this track either. But overall it is close, and the elise is made more for this then the boxster as well.
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    elise for me.
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    Thanks Matra.

    Lotus Elise Sport 190 1.28.2
    New Boxter 1.28.7
    Lotus Elise 111S 1.35.6

    Looks like the Boxter has the 111S clearly beat on a tight track but very equal to the Sport 190. I would guess the Boxter's advantage over the 111S would be greater on the Ring due to it's higher top speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McReis
    Check it yourself on GT4.
    There aren´t any Porsche cars in GT4, so no comparison is possible. Don't know about Forza. The closest is the RUF 3400S but that isn't even close to a Boxster S.

    Next best thing... trust on the magazine bozos:

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....page_number=13

    The Boxster beat the Elise by 1.4 secs in this track which is obviously not the ring. Make your own conclusions.

    I´m sticking to the Porsche.
    Last edited by magracer; 10-20-2005 at 06:12 PM.

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    When was the DBR9 on Topgear?

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    Not a Boxter fan it all,ill take Lotus Elise 111R over Boxter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
    When was the DBR9 on Topgear?
    Season 6 - Episode 6, right near the end i'm pretty sure.


    And about the cars... I think the Elise would win because of it's lightweight and handling abilities. I don't think the horsepower will matter, even on the ring with its long straights and high-speed corners.

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    ah, i just made the connection Nordschleife = the ring. now i know what track is being discussed.
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