"What's this car?" Official Thread

[henk4]

Warwick GT.

and the picture can be found here, after some scrolling

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[Theok]

Hi
In case you have not found out yet, this is a Lancia Stratos, with the Ferrari Dino engine - produced between 1972 and 1974
More at [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Stratos_HF]Lancia Stratos HF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
Theo

[henk4]

Hi
In case you have not found out yet, this is a Lancia Stratos, with the Ferrari Dino engine - produced between 1972 and 1974
More at Lancia Stratos HF - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Theo

Welcom Theo. It would help if you could indicate which post you are referring to.

[xepoj]

[Timothy (in VA)]

^ 1953 Packard Cavalier

[csl177]

Stylish... I had a '53 Caribbean once. Quite a boat.

[henk4]

^ 1953 Packard Cavalier

is it possible to verify from this picture that it is a Cavalier (series 300) and not a Patrician (series 400)? I think they may have different hood ornaments, but I don't know which went where..

[csl177]

Not hood ornaments, they all used the swan... but it's a Patrician and not a Cavalier, the Patrician has the spear over the front wheel. Cavalier side trim is a straight piece running the length of the body about halfway up, and jogging down at the rear fender front. (I think)

[henk4]

Not hood ornaments, they all used the swan... but it's a Patrician and not a Cavalier, the Patrician has the spear over the front wheel. Cavalier side trim is a straight piece running the length of the body about halfway up, and jogging down at the rear fender front. (I think)

I am looking at three pictures right here in front of me, (from the book: Packard, a history of the motor car and the company) and the side trim you describe for the Cavalier is actually shown on a car of which this book says it is a Mayfair. The side trims of the Cavalier and the Patrician are the same. There is always the possibility that the book is wrong though

[csl177]

No... more likely they used trim options on several models, and "deluxe" trim could be ordered on anything from Clipper to Patrician. I went looking for photos and found the same thing, so my memory is faulty and/or the Cavalier I remember had different trim. Check out the variations here:

Google Image Result for http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/1953%20Packard%20Model%202631%20Convertible.jpg

BTW, my Caribbean didn't have any trim. In 1973 it wasn't a chick magnet, either.

[henk4]

No... more likely they used trim options on several models, and "deluxe" trim could be ordered on anything from Clipper to Patrician. I went looking for photos and found the same thing, so my memory is faulty and/or the Cavalier I remember had different trim. Check out the variations here:

Google Image Result for http://www.automotivehistoryonline.com/1953%20Packard%20Model%202631%20Convertible.jpg

BTW, my Caribbean didn't have any trim. In 1973 it wasn't a chick magnet, either.

apart from the differences that you quote, it is striking that many pictures in that link appear to have been taken straight from the book (from 2002) I was referring too. Either that site had permission to do so, or this is a great case of copy right infringement.
PS: Probably the trim is what turns the car into a magnet.

[csl177]

Wonder if he's the guy that wrote the book? Otherwise, pretty iffy that he can copyright the site.

"Copyright © 2005 - 2006 Randall Glover, All rights reserved.

Much of the material on this website is in the public domain and has no copyright attached to it."

[henk4]

The book consists of several contributions, edited by Beverly Rae Kimes. All the contributing editors are listed, Randall Glover not being one of them.

[Timothy (in VA)]

is it possible to verify from this picture that it is a Cavalier (series 300) and not a Patrician (series 400)? I think they may have different hood ornaments, but I don't know which went where..

I said Cavalier rather than Patrician because it seems the Patrician had chrome stone guards ahead of the rear wheel well, whereas the Cavalier didn't. The car Xepoj posted does not have stone guards. I admit I'm not a Packard expert, though.

[henk4]

I said Cavalier rather than Patrician because it seems the Patrician had chrome stone guards ahead of the rear wheel well, whereas the Cavalier didn't. The car Xepoj posted does not have stone guards. I admit I'm not a Packard expert, though.

indeed, the chrome stone guard is in the picture I have of the Patrician and not in that of the Cavalier. It seems to be this riddle of "spot the difference" and I failed to notice it. Thanks, so it definitely is a Cavalier.