Off-Roading

[Street_Dreamer]

Merc G-Wagen

[fpv_gtho]

-Lexus LX470
-Jeep Grand Cherokee
-Jeep Liberty
-Jeep Commander
-Toyota FJ Cruiser
-Toyota Land Cruiser
-Humvee
-Hummer H1
-Hummer H2
-Land Rover Ranger Rover
-Range Rover Sport
-Land Rover LR3
-Land Rover Defender
-Honda Ridgeline
-Nissan Xterra
-Nissan Titan
-Kia Sorento
-Hyundai Tucson
-Hyundai Santa Fe
-Ford F-150
-GMC Yukon (Denali if u want to add)
-Ford Expedition
-Chevrolet Tahoe
-Chevrolet Suburban
-Subaru Forester
-Subaru Outback
-BMW X5
-Mercedes Benz G55
-Mitsubishi Montero
-Mitsubishi Outlander

Dont get a new car as you probably wont find anything on the market good enough anymore, unless you want to put alot of money into a standard LandCruiser (and i think you guys dont get any models with the solid front axle)

[Guest]

what do you think about this statement

in the UK we have the JD power survey, they found that on the range rover the tailgates stick and the brakes sometimes sqeak, but RR have fixed both of these issues

[charged]

IFS not fantastic in the bush, solid front axles are the go for articulation

[Giankrlo99]

Land Cruiser 80 series
First and second pictures is not the same car!

[NuclearCrap]

Oh wait, what about the older Mitsubishi Pajero?

[Giankrlo99]

What about the:
Nissan Hardbody Pickup
Nissan Patrol
New Toyota 4runner
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado

[Ziostilon]

Oh wait, what about the older Mitsubishi Pajero?

is the pajero the same thing as the montero, i read that somewhere.

That's because the HUMMER H1 is no SUV afterthought. It wasn't designed to be satisfied with tackling 22 inches of snow or curb-high obstacles. In fact, it wasn't "designed" as much as it was "engineered." More specifically, it was engineered to meet the rigorous demands of the U.S. armed forces who needed a vehicle with power, agility and durability like nothing in existence. Strip away some refinements and creature comforts, and the HUMMER H1 is still the "HUMVEE" so trusted and respected by the military.

They say it was pretty much engineered to defeat any obstacles that the US Army may need to defeat. Do you agree. If it is really that good is there actually any alternative to the Hummer H1/ Humvee.

[magracer]

is the pajero the same thing as the montero, i read that somewhere.

That's correct...

I think hardcore off roaders would only consider Toyotas Land Cruisers and Land Rover Defenders. Land Cruiser are kings not only in Oz, but also in Latin America and Africa.

I think all new off roaders are too fat to be good. Specially the FJ Cruiser... what where they thinking?

[aNOBLEman]

IFS not fantastic in the bush, solid front axles are the go for articulation

However solid axles can hamper ground clearance. Whereas independent suspension allows the whole underbody to be covered with a giant skid plate which will protect the engine, transmission, transfer case, etc.

[Giankrlo99]

Have you seen the ultimate adventures this year rig?
Take a look!

[crisis]

However solid axles can hamper ground clearance. Whereas independent suspension allows the whole underbody to be covered with a giant skid plate which will protect the engine, transmission, transfer case, etc.

Ground clearance is only an issue in this case where something passes under the car between the wheels. I any case where the wheels are lifted the whole axle lifts increasing ground clearance. Independent suspension leaves the centre of the car pretty much where it was thus decreasing clearance.

Requirements: the following are things the vehicle must have

-be able to move efficiently in the outback
-move efficiently in snow without haulbacks
-go up a slant and uneven hill
-sit at least 5 people
-cannot get stuck in mud
-as non-gas guzzling as possible
-Gas Mileage
-move in a certain level of water- (i don't mean moving like a boat or anything, if it can move in an low level water which vehicle can do, then thats good)
-very important (reliable- as reliable as a Toyota, i don't mean just go choose a toyota)
-for example go over a few trees that dropped on the ground
-you can actually buy it, and then if you want to mod and tune it later on then thats okay. so what i'm saying is, its not something that a person cannot buy
-looks is not a requirement

You need to add low range to your list if you really want an effective off road vehicle.
Go outback in Australia and you will see Nissans, Toyotas and Landrovers. Something that we are always concern of is availability of parts and someone who can work on your car. Get too exotic and you will be loading it on to a truck for a ride home.
Our group have 8 80/100 series Landcrusiers, a Patrol, A Pajero and A Isuzu dual cab. We have all had issues with reliability from time to time but the majority of us are on our second or third Cruisers and see no reason to change.

[aNOBLEman]

Ground clearance is only an issue in this case where something passes under the car between the wheels. I any case where the wheels are lifted the whole axle lifts increasing ground clearance. Independent suspension leaves the centre of the car pretty much where it was thus decreasing clearance.

That's true, but with keeping the vehicle more level comes the benefit of having the center of gravity lower which will make the possibility of flipping less likely.

[crisis]

That's true, but with keeping the vehicle more level comes the benefit of having the center of gravity lower which will make the possibility of flipping less likely.

I have read where people do that. I think that has more to do with the driver in all honesty.

[acemotorsport]

IFS not fantastic in the bush, solid front axles are the go for articulation

they make you feel like your drive a truck